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Here is a lengthy conclusion to my last week of thought on this subject, with a case study for good measure. I am surprised by the lack of contributions to this thread and happy with the number of votes and PM’s. I do understand people’s reluctance to verbalize information and feelings on this subject as it is very touchy in our community. I do know that over the last week I have been ostracized and put down for my opinions and been the brunt of some peoples anger, so I can understand the position on this one, rule #1 don’t talk about fight club (and some of you have relayed stories to me about similar experiences I feel for you guys too) As much as we would like to adopt the Beavers mentality of Sharing, Sharing, Sharing it is a very tough walk. The irony is that we live and breath the Beavers mantra even if we do it in silence! I have been in the hobby since 1983 when I picked up my first street walker at Dalhousie and Murray, she had long blond hair white vinyl jacket and short, short, skirt and those massive CFM boots in white of course. She was probably 5’5” (with the boots!) and maybe 100 pounds, I was so nervous I took off down the street the wrong direction!! She just thought I was a wild guy so I worked with it. I guess it is fair to say that I have been hooked ever since August of 1983 that adds up to 25 years. In that time I have had service from way too many ladies to ever count plus so many non paid conquests etc… If you live for sex you have a knack for getting it. When I look at this history I do believe that for the most part the sex was covered and oral not, and yet after 25 years no infections or disease? Also worth pointing out this community is not very monogamous, so I would have been exposed to way more that I actually ever saw. Beyond this point I see at lease 6 ladies that have been in business for many years on E-C etc… that offer BBBJ and some even advertise BBBJTC/CIM and several that don’t advertise it offer it, and yet these ladies some of them in business now for 20+ years are still alive to tell and don’t seem to be any less the wiser for it? (I can tell you that if I was getting repeated issues from something as a service provider I would stop that activity immediately!). Now you cannot simply say that the ladies can pick the right ones, because there is too much cross contamination, witch brings me to my next point. If 20-30% of us still troll the streets, and also visit mid priced ladies and some of us visit mid priced ladies and hi end ladies than all the infections and diseases would be already be spread, from the street right up to the penthouse condo. As soon as we see more than one lady a year we start to be big contributors to the cycle, at this point I think the vast majority of ladies are doing BBBJ vs CBJ, most of the popular agency girls are and several of the long time ladies are and then the rest area mix. Also most of the ladies are in business and see several at least 10 clients a week, so If I see a lady on Tuesday and she has seen 40 clients in the last month and gives me a BBBJ, than effectively I am exposed to all the things that those 40 guys have seen and done. Then if on Thursday I see a lady and we perform unprotected oral sex than she is getting the 40 that I got on Tuesday and I am getting the 40 she saw and lets say that all 40 had seen someone else in the last month, so the 40 has seen 40 and been exposed exponentially to 1600, and the 2nd lady seeing me is then at 3200. In all of this all of it BBBJ in a thirty day period times 12 months a year times 25 years that would be nearly 39,000 people of course I am Dummpy and I don't see 2 ladies a month so it is probably more like 130,000, and I know that my simple math is missing some other factors that would catapult this number to over a million. I am under the impression that if oral sex were an effective means to transfer STD/STI that I would have caught something by now? So the fact that I have recently finished my 64th STD/STI screening and tested negative proves that oral acts do not transfer STD/STI’s to me. All that is left to determine is whether I am super man or oral sex is just not that affective at transferring STD/STI. I am OK with either conclusion that you draw, however modesty forces me to choose the later. Now any scientist or brainiacs (or regular dummies like me) out there want to help me find the error in my conclusions? It’s important we need to make sure that all the cards are on the table and no stone is unturned. BTW a disproportionate amount of anti sex STD/STI stuff is on the web from the Pentecostal and Baptist churches in the US, you want a good laugh read that crap!!