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Don't find it weird. As I had said in another thread, the posted rate is the minimum agreed exchange for the service, it doesn't stop us clients for giving more. [And i'm sure the regulars do be it gifts or funds]

Had a little free time lately and was browsing the adds - saw one that caught my interest. "Diamond in the ruff" was the caption - and looking at the pix of the young lady, and knowing she was a friend of Phoebe, I decided to book a date. Off I go to her incall suite, downtown Hull. Upon entering the suite, I'm greeted at the door by this petite sweetheart of a doll - Katrina. We exchange kisses and she invites me in - "my English is not so good she says". Not to worry, my french isn't perfect either.. so more kisses. So while she turned on some music on her laptop, I took a little bathroom break and returned to the festivities. The lovely Katrina had now put her dancing shoes on - yup, she's petite, but with heels and her short red dress she looks more like the pix (which I can't seem to attach). "Would you like me to dance for you she says", sure I respond and she does this slow little hip movement, while hiking up her dress, very strip club feature like. The dress comes off, the heels come off and she is on top of me smothering me with kisses, what a thrill. Somewhere in that she says to me, 'tell me what you like'. So my instant response is 'right now I like you'. And with that she made her way down to pay some respect to little Seymour. Long, slow, sensual, lots of great eye contact as great respect was paid to junior. I felt a headache coming on - <no really, I've been having some nasty headaches recently> and decided we should move on to other things. We started slowly and passionately but my headache was having the better of me and I didn't get into as many tight spots as I normally would. Katrina the doll that she is, sensed something was up but like a good trooper she helped me to the finish. If you like a girl friend experience with a petite, girl next door, with that sweet french accent and a great friendly attitude -or you want to fulfill your dream of making out with an exotic dancer go see Katrina. She is a safe GFE and a beaut. As always YMMV. (Since I did not get into a discussion of "menu" I did not check certain search tags while composing this).

Sometimes being stood up by the same lady twice in a week can be a blessing in disguise. What looked like a bad start gave opportunity to hang with another adorable lady which I haven?t seen in a few weeks. She remains nameless as this is her prerogative but nonetheless, another fine GF experience. For the second occasion, I was able to set up a date with Caroline last evening which is represented by Discreet Valley whom I had in my sights the last little while. With that backdrop? Called Discreet Valley. The dispatcher was very professional and referred to their real time scheduling. An appointment was made. Caroline arrived on time. I was impressed and attracted to Caroline?s appearance and attire. Caroline is hot!! With golden blonde shoulder length hair, hazel eyes, beautiful smile, spinner type body and a back side to die for, I knew Karma was at work! The experience? Notwithstanding the language barrier; It didn?t take long to break the ice and soft passionate kisses were flowing. We got comfortable and ?LFK? and ?DFK? continued whereby the moment was becoming more intense by the minute. Caroline has beautiful natural firm ?B? breasts which I gently caressed. In no time, I was indulging her sweet spot which Caroline was most receptive as her love juices flowed. I think I could have spent an hour there alone. Caroline was responsive to ?Digits? and this only made me anxious as I skipped the ?BJ? and moved straight to passionate Karma Sutra whereby multiple positions were exhausted and we both earned a wonderful orgasm in harmony. With a bit of time to spare, I applied a massage to Caroline which she appeared to enjoy very much. Thank You Caroline for a wonderful GF experience. Repeat ? Definitely and I can?t wait! ;)

Yes dear Cerbites, you read correctly! My birthday gift to our dear Emma Alexandra was to introduce her to her first threesome with a Tg/Ts Service Provider/Part One. (You will understand later why this is Part One.) Emma and I have been planning the possibility of this event for a long while. Our greatest obstacle was co-ordinating Emma's visit to Ottawa with that of a respected Tg/Ts Service Provider. It just happened that Emma and Tg/Ts Lola were visiting Ottawa at the same time. And to boot, it was Emma's Birthday celebration week! The stars aligned and we finally made our fantasy come true. I picked up our dear Emma from her place as scheduled. (Emma is always so prompt and oohhh she was dressed so chic...a beautiful woman that you want locked in your arms to make the other boys weep.) We greeted each other with a loving kiss...(god I love her kisses). I really enjoy Emma's company. She is so loving and easy to be with. She even massaged, kissed and caressed my free hand during our short trip to Lola's. One of these days I have to treat myself to Emma's full body massage but I never seem to get passed her kisses to make it happen...lol. We arrived at Lola's central downtown location on schedule but found it difficult to find parking. We circled around and with fear that we would be walking a mile, I dropped Emma off near the entrance. I finally found a spot in a public parking lot just across the street from the hotel. By now we were late by 5 minutes. I called up to Lola. She provided her suite number and she asked for 3 extra minutes. Emma and I entertained ourselves in the lobby with loving touches. Emma is just so sensual. We made our way to the suite and I rang the door bell. We waited for Lola to answer the door. As we were waiting it gave Emma an opportunity to exercise her sensuality by finding and playing with my nipples followed by more kisses. I was afraid if the door were not to open soon that the neighbors would be treated to an X-rated hallway show...lol. Without any response from the bell I knocked on the door. As the door opened, I was expecting to be greeted by Lola but she was hiding behind the door. I allowed Emma to enter first. I hear the exchange of voices from behind the door. As I stepped-in I realized why Lola was hiding. Oh My God, there she was, a tall lady wearing a sleek red glistening show girl type bodice, matching necklace, a red g-string, black stockings, and red glistening high heel shoes. (Not your typical business suit...lol.) The red bodice was very sparse in material and revealed her very slender and toned female body. You could see the outline of her breasts and a delicious firm bum. Her legs were long, toned and slender. We greeted each other with a tender kiss. Lola invited us into her suite. Her suite was spacious, clean and well lit with natural light. Emma and I were invited to sit on the couch with Lola to acquaint ourselves. Lola is very open and made us feel at ease. What I noticed was that Lola always carried a very nice wide sincere smile. At one point Lola got up from the couch and walked in front of us. I had to make her stop to allow us to enjoy her outfit and body. She was very obliging. Yummy! After the acquaintance, Lola invited us to her bedroom. There was a nice King size bed made for some threesome fun. She instructed us to remove our clothes. We all came together and met at the back edge of the bed. The caressing and kissing began. Everyone loves Emma's breasts and Lola was not to be excluded as she said she was jealous. Lola's breasts are a nice rounded firm B-C as I began to explore them. Oh to be playing with two sets of breasts and to have multiple hands playing with me...Ohhh mannnn! Emma and I directed our attention onto Lola and I could feel Lola's body heat rising. Lola kept her g-string on and it was fun to have her reveal her love tool to us. While it was still flaccid, Lola warned us to watch out. (You'll understand the warning soon enough!) Emma and I began to discover her love tool together. Me on Lola's love tool then it was Emma's turn as I enjoyed Lola's sac. Lola was moaning in pleasure as she caressed us both. As we continued to pleasure Lola's love tool Emma and I were realizing and heeding Lola's previous warning. Lola's love tool grew to a full 9 inches hard...yikes and oh so yummy...lol. I took it straight up into my throat over and over again. Oh so yummy! Lola was so sweet as she instructed us that it was time for the train. I can't really recall how this whole oral segment played out as I played and enjoyed it in a frenzy of sensations...lol. Who was on who or who was where...now try saying that five times...lol. Then, Lola asked me to lay on my back as she sat on my face in a reverse cowgirl while Emma treated me to her skillful BBBJ. I spoiled myself with a delightful DAO on Lola. Lola responded with more moaning. She has a beautiful bum! If that was not enough then Lola traded places with Emma. Lola was now giving me a BBBJ while I grabbed Emma for a DFK...then I had to have Emma's breasts...then Emma instintivly jumped on my face in a reverse cowgirl as I slathered myself in her love juice. AAAHHHHH at this point I was transported once again, in Emma's company, to the other side of eroticism..lol. And then it was time to turn our attention to Emma. I wanted Lola to enter Emma with the hopes of joining in. Lola wanted me to make love to Emma first so I eagerly obliged. Lola said that I was smaller so I should go first...oh thanks Lola! Unexpectedly Lola's love tool came knocking at my back door while I'm in the thorough of passion with Emma. Oh no!,...one, I've never been in the middle of a love sandwich and two, I have never been entered in this position... so I'm not sure what to expect. With a few tries, Lola has finally penetrated my back door. Lola says f**k her as she sends her love tool deeper and deeper into me. Now this would mean having me keep up my raging "Tiger" tempo with Emma all the while matching Lola's tempo with her 9" love tool in me. (Whenever I make love to Emma my inner "Tiger " is always unleashed in a whirl-wind of passion.) O.K. this is even too much for this Tiger. Lola did fall out a few times which allowed me to further elevate my passion for Emma as I was in an erotic high. Though It was evident that it would be impossible for me to keep up my "Tiger" tempo with Emma as Lola reloaded her tool in me. I now have a new appreciation why not every woman offers a trip to Greece...lol. (Perhaps it was just the position but oh man can you feel it.) As I fell out of Emma reluctantly, Lola asked if I wanted her to f**k me...(I thought she just did...lol). Since her raincoat was already tainted by me, I obliged. She instructed me to the side of the bed with me lying on my back. I raised my legs to reveal my bottom side to Lola. She slowly entered me and gradually went in and proceeded to go deeper and deeper. Lola kept asking if I wanted her to f**k me all the while trusting harder and harder and applying a HJ on my love tool. Yes f**k me I kept replying. Emma joined in telling Lola to f**k me hard. Then what a sight to watch them both begin to kiss passionately as Lola f**ked me. I had to remind Lola that I did not want to cum. (I wanted to have a chance to be inside her too!) She told me not to worry...I can cum again. So with that, I went into my "Tiger" state. God it was heavenly, I know now how a woman feels when you get into a groove...I wanted Lola deeper and deeper. (I found being on my back-side much more accepting than receiving from the rear.) It felt like she could not get deep enough inside me as I wrapped my legs around her backside in attempts to pull her as close to me as possible. With Emma beside me I had to grab a passionate kiss and an embrace from her. (Now funny thing is I'm not sure if the previous sentence really happened or if I imagined it...I was in my "Tiger" state, don't you know...lol). Now I'm falling from the other side of eroticism as I finally reach a physical and mind blowing explosion...as we find out later...squirting to my elbows...dang! Lola cleans me up and places a warm towel around my love tool. She tells me to lay on the bed and to relax as the ladies depart for a break. I laid there on the bed still having after shocks...lol. After a short while I join the ladies in the living area. I stood and listened as the ladies chatted. Time flew and before we could get back to the action it was time to leave. I was hoping that we could have gone back to Part Two for Emma but unfortunately Lola had mentioned that she was expecting another appointment. Well this session really became Part One. I hope Part two will come in the not too distant future where I promise you Emma that I will not answer the back door if someone comes knocking before you have had a chance to play...lol. Thank-you Lola and I do hope you enjoyed Part One Emma...Happy Birthday! soft warm kisses, Tigerclaw

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Well said and my thoughts exactly. I've been there a few times myself during a date. In the result, compromises were made and the next session more than made up for it.

AvaJ, Thats an awesome topic and a similar predicament that I was faced with recently in a busy business environment with a particular lady. Rather than evade, we both acknowledged that we knew each other and subsequently stepped aside the mainstream by grabbing a coffee at a nearby Star bucks and reminiscenced on past experiences. It was nice to see her again!

OMG. Luv that stuff. I am a 518 (455 in a pinch) fan with a white crop top. Never knew WW existed. You guys are holding out on me! There should be a school for this!

I dont want to pull this string off topic, and I'm glad to see Obama doing some travelling (maybe he'll learn something ... smile), but I think many of us have grown up in a generation that believes that the government can somehow "fix" the economy. I respectfully assert that it cant, and in most cases, it does more harm than good. There are many examples over the past 100 years, of governments, possibly with the best intentions, wrongly inserting themselves into the market and causing more harm than good. The "housing crisis," as its being called, was caused by sub-prime lending widely supported by Congress (hell, even Saturday Night Live figured that out), and its effect on a highly -leveraged mortgage derivative market. It didn't take much to cause this market to start to collapse last fall, and I would agree that there is an strong argument for better regulation and oversight, not by idiots in Congress, but by people who know what they are doing. This sort of regulation was actively dismissed by democratic members of Congress as recently as 2 years ago. Obama's actions to date have indicated that he is going to take a spending/re-allocation approach to "fixing"the crisis (he likes the word "crisis" a lot) that may include some socialistic elements such as arbitrarily re-casting mortgages or requiring the taxpayers to subsidize those who cant pay their mortgages. That's certainly one approach and, historically and unfortunately, it never works. By the way, its good to see the reference to FDR, but FDR's programs, although to some extent needed as a safety net for people really suffering during the Great Depression, never got the country out of the Great Depression ... it took World War II to do that. And I believe everything in my note is well-supported by the historical record. Hopefully our new glorious leader (shall we call him the "Big O" on this board?? ... smile) will come to understand that before my mutual funds are completely worthless.

Been chewing on this one for a bit, I think not but then again??? I guess it depends on how we know each other, if it is professionally I would not want to know, I think but then again geee it is a tough one. As for a random encounter on the street I am fine to knod and pass by or stop and chat either way is cool, hey I could even buy lunch !!

thier is a lot of guy that are very rude to all girls ethier in person or just in the chat room very childiss

little head doesn't think that way and little head has a habit of making big head do stupid things. its a guy thing.

To add on more thing... SP's need to offer services that they are comfortable with. Some ladies might feel comfortable with offering extra services ( CIM ), while other just don't feel comfortable in doing so. It shouldn't matter price wise, just level of comfort... But the important thing to remember is that all SP's no matter the service offered are in a trade that is shunded by 70% of the ( normal ) used lightly.... population. Sad but true, so we are in some fact all seen as dirty or in a dirty trade. So its counter productive to start labeling each other dirty just because we have different comfort levels.... Just my personal thought on this endless behind the scenes controversy... Which shouldn't even be one... Paige

As an SP, I really wanted to comment on this thread, I think that in one way or another an SP and/or well known hobbiest has been involved in a gossip mill. I think out of human nature it just seems to happen. However, i haven't heard too much that I am worried about, since I haven't really been here all that much lately. However, I would like to thank Dummpy for posting this. I think its great. Personally, I would hope that if someone heard something about me, that they would ask. I know that a couple months ago a well known hobbiest heard a rumor about me doing bbfs, I thank this person for asking my best friend Paige for clarification, as this is ABSOLUTELY NOT something that is offered. I think when we hear things, it should be taken with a grain of salt and the "rumor" should stop at you. Sometimes silence is your best friend. In regards to SP's back talking about other SP's, it would be nice if we were a tighter knit community ourselves. If I feel I can't provide a service that is desired, I have no problems, and have done it numerous times, recommend another SP that does. Whether a girl is 200 or 300+ an hour, you guys do your homework, you know what your getting, so it shouldn't be an issue of topic. Thanks again for this thread Dummpy

Nice PP. It's a little community, and remember SHARING SHARING SHARING.

I have been thinking about making this post for a while, a long while actually! A couple of months back, ( see what I mean by a while! ), on a very quiet Saturday, I decided to see who was available and was not getting anywhere. So I figure, what the hell, I'll call PK and see who is working. They answer the phone and let me know the only lady available is Nathalia, "would you like to see her?". I'm thinking at this point, the night isn't going exactly as planned here. So I ask them a few questions and figure why not. At this point I wasn't sure what to think, as I couldn't find any reviews on her anywhere. I'm the adventurous type, and they promised me there would be no way I'd be disappointed, so I figure why not! I get there, knock on the door and was greated by a very deep warm kiss by this very attractive blonde with gorgeous blue eyes!! We introduce ourselves to each other and sit down on the bed for a bit and start chatting. I always want to chat with an sp for a bit to get a feel for their personality so I know if we are going to hit it off or not. After a bit of talking, and stealing the odd deep kiss, the fun begins!!! After stripping down, I realize this woman has one fantastic body!!! If you are looking for the 19 year old spinner, then keep moving. Nathalia is a very hot MILF, with a very sexy body on her!!! I have no idea how old she is, but man, she stays in very good shape As I always tell everyone, it's YMMV. How you treat a woman will always dictate how much milage you will recieve. I can say this, it was a wild two hours with her, Nathalia knows what she is doing and makes you feel extremely comfortable with her the entire time. This woman is an absolute gem, would I repeat, ABSOLUTELY!!! She had disappeared for a while and I have seen her add elsewhere that she is now back. Can't wait to see here again soon

Combined . . . MMMM!!! (Great minds think alike. lol)

Just out of curiosity are there any Agencies started by SP ? Are they better run ? Provide benefits ?

I appreciate reading the views of the different sides of the fence on this one. My personal take on this is if you communicate in a respectful manner, most ladies will share the info with you. Now like some of the other members have expressed, and some of us have experienced, if the mood, chemistry etc is right then other things can happen which might not be listed on a 'menu'. As clients, we always preface with YMMV - and sometimes when one does experience that so called extra mileage, it really is a personal thing between two consenting adults. Some things are best left shared between two consenting adults :-).

When you visit a provider, do you use your own first name? If not, what pseudonym do you use? I use my own first name. It makes them laugh. A certain somebody (Hi Ms. P.P.) told me that there are a lot of "Gords" in Canada. e

What's been made clear in this thought provoking thread is that an SP can have many good reasons--and all valid--for requesting a photo. My sense is that those who are independents have to take charge of a lot more in terms of maintaining their safety and their *sense* of safety. Equally true, many men who see SPs and MPAs do so knowing that each time there is a risk of being found out. That's a worry for some, while for others it's just accepted as part of the experience. Personally, there are times when I have been asked to provide a photo and it has given me pause, if only because I don't know the person at the other end of the correspondence. But I can also say that if any of the women in this thread were to ask me for a photo first (hi Paige, Ava, Cat etc!), I would not hesitate because they are known here on cerb as great people who care not only about being good at what they do, but about taking care of themselves as well. So for me, when faced with the request, I either comply trusting fully both the woman's discretion and the reasons behind her request, or I move on with no hard feelings. Chacun son go?t. Threads like this one are great for getting a better idea of another's perspective. My hat's off to everyone.

Just because you are paying for a visit doesn't mean we don't have the right to decide before hand who we want to see. If this lady has decided she only wants to share her body with those she finds personally attractive then that is her choice! SP's are unlike any other service providers. Put yourself in her position, what if you were standing on the other side of the door and opened it to a woman who had no teeth, greasy hair, reeking of body odor and she outweighed you by 150lbs. Would you feel comfortable telling her she repulsed you and to please leave? I think you would go thru the same thought process we do... 1. Can I do this? 2. If she wants to kiss me, can I do it and not gag? 3. When she wants me to eat her, can I do it without losing my lunch? 4. If I tell her to leave, will she go peacefully or cause a scene? 5. Am I in danger? 6. Can I get it a hard on with this person? 7. How desperately do I need the money? (not necessarily in the order in which they flow thru the grey matter!) Think about it. Just because you are the one initiating the contact and wanting to have the opportunity to spend time with an SP doesn't mean you dictate anything and that she doesn't have the right to ask for whatever she deems necessary to ensure her peace of mind. It is not for you to ask why she does it, just to decide if you want to participate on her terms. Catherine

I also receive many photo's from clients, it makes outcalls far less stressful. If your walking into a hotel lobby and you already know who your looking for, I find that alot more discreet. As for this black mail business, I think thats just far fetched... Most SP's if not all SP's have professional career's outside of being and SP. I myself am in a very public career, so I am always taking a huge risk to send out photo's. I see know harm in asking for photo's from a client, if it makes an SP more comfortable, then why not. Gentlemen we invite you into our homes, and put our very lives in your hands. You are after all a stranger, and have a huge advange in doing us harm... Your male, so naturally larger and stonger... I think an SP & client relationship is a very delicate bond, that needs two way respect and discreetness.... Just a Thought... Your Paige...

My two cents.. In an industry such as this, where DISCRETION is of the utmost importance, I'm baffled by this request? First, If safety is the concern, why would a pic help? A crazy man's not goning to care if he sends you a fake pic.. by the time you know its a fake he has the address/info.(ie: crazy guys will not be weeded out) If personal hygiene is your concern, a well placed " Let's take a shower" or "would you like to freshen up" will usually suffice. So to sum it up.. I'd say its not about either of those factors. This industry is well suited for women with depth of character and a love of men (of all shapes, sizes and ethnicity's) vanity and a "high opinion" of one-self will do you absolutely no good in the long run. I understand it is the personal choice of each sp, but in the end alienating half of your client base is just, bad business 101. Just my thoughts.. Kim.. (p.s. Most of my BEST sessions tend to begin, with the most timid and shy emails I receive..lol.. It's an intimadating thing, (contacting an escort) So I would say she's missing out on some great clients.. who DEPEND on DISCRETION) .