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This is one of the hottest things that happened to me.....just one...there are many.....hope you enjoy! Sitting in my room early one morning responding to my emails a soft knock comes to the door... i hear a male voice" house keeping". i'm thinking maid service...a man...male service...lol confused i open the door....the gent is dressed definitely in the hotel garb so i let him in... he says"hello miss i'm here to do your room" i shrug and say, "ok as long as you don't mind me here i have to some work to finish". He says's "thats fine", and goes about his business.. a few mins later he starts some small talk while i'm sitting at my computer....the small talk soon turns into talk about my boobs... "may i say miss you have great breasts".... i'm thinking....damn this dude could get into a lot of shit if he wasn't so cute... i reply..."ummm thanks". he continues on about how much he love big breasts and his wife has little ones... so i ofter him a peek... he comes over slowly looks at me and asks if i'm sure... i undo one button... he looks down and reaches for the others b4 i know it hes sucking and licking them.. my head goes back...this is so hot and so wrong... but damn it feels so good he looks up at me AGAIN WITH HIS HANDS ON MY skirt "may i?" hes asks damn...yes yes please do i'm thinking..and just spread my legs a little to let him see i wasn't wearing any panties and i certainly wanted him there. i push out on the chair more so he can access my pussy better and his nice strong tongue devours me...i m moaning and playing with my nipples as he licks my wet pussy and inserts a finger or 2... we are both hornier then hell our hearts pumping faster{as mine is now recalling it} he starts to freak a little saying "please don't tell my boss" ..etc i tell him to shut up and i stand up he almost falls on his ass...lol i tell him to take out his cock...its a great size and so nice and hard.... i start sucking him until hes about to explode.. i tell him no he has to fuck me now. i bend over the bed...and hes instantly inside my wet pussy....fucking me so good...all the time saying please don't tell...lol finally he explodes inside me....i cum at the same time.....so fucking hot i never seen him again.....i often wonder who he really was....was he really the house keeper...lol --

I'll probably get flamed for commenting on this, but I've been in the business since the 1970s, and I must confess that I don't always get the rationale behind some SPs policies. I agree, if a guy's breath is bad or he has an open coldsore, an SP isn't going to want to kiss him -- but she should make her reasons clear up front, and professionally give him the option to cancel without penalty. If she doesn't want to hurt his feelings, she can always make some other excuse to pass -- but don't take his money if you can't give him the services he's looking for. I do bbbj, although I will use a condom if requested. (I find it unpleasant, though.) I have been lectured by others on this, and yet I can't help but notice that they insist on condoms for customers, yet will fall into bed with some character they met at a club just hours before, often not bothering with any condom for oral. I have a friend who insists on condoms for oral, and yet, she makes exceptions if a guy is particularly "hot." There are two clients I'm thinking of that we've both seen regularly. One is "hot," the other is not. She doesn't use a condom with the hot one, and does with the not one. And yet, she knows neither use condoms for bj with me. So how exactly does that make sense? This is one of the big problems with STDs. We tend to demonize them and the people who get them. But really, they're no different (from a disease perspective) from any other contagious disease. The only difference with STDs is the "shame factor" -- and much of this stems from the "infidelity factor." I'm married, and my husband knows what I do. So if I had to go home and tell him that I got the clap, it wouldn't be any different than if I had to go home and tell him I got strep throat or chicken pox. Because we don't consider my work "cheating" and because I haven't lied to him about anything, we would only worry about the actual disease part of it. But for someone who is married, if he had to tell his partner that she needed to be tested/treated for a disease, then not only would they have to deal with the disease, but also the breach of trust. This whole demonization of STDs is particularly sad when it comes to young people. Because STDs are "bad" "dirty" contagious diseases, I think many young people are left thinking that only bad dirty mean people will give them to you. That wonderful, desirable, sexy person who seems to be crazy about you and wants you to meet his or her mom wouldn't/couldn't give you an STD, could they?? (or get you pregnant, for that matter) The truth is that STDs are no more and in some cases less prevalent among prostitutes and johns than the general public. Why is this so? I suspect because we are sangfroid, dispassionate about our risks. Most of us (but not all apparently) make informed decisions not affected by things like love or trust. I also believe that most people exaggerate the frequency of their testing. There are a couple considerations here: 1) The overwhelming majority of people infected with an STD are asymptomatic. Some of us may be more confident than we should be. I'll take a risk here and state for the record that, if nothing else, I'm sure I've been thoroughly exposed to HSV-1, the virus that causes coldsores. I've never had a cold sore, though! 2) A test is a lot like a snapshot. You can test negative at 2 PM on Friday, and pick something up on your way home from the clinic. 3) The consequences of an STD infection are not the same for all people. As I've already stated, if I had reason to believe I'd acquired an STD, it wouldn't be any more serious than acquiring a non-sexually transmitted contagious disease with a similar prognosis around my house. I've had many people lecture me about the importance of their wives not finding out or of *my* possibly infecting innocent unsuspecting wives -- but I don't even know these people. I did not take any vow to them, nor have I ever given them any assurances. Husbands must take active measures to protect their own partners, if they are still sexually active with them. Taking the above into consideration, one really needs to decide for oneself what his or her policies should be. Respect others and never pressure anyone to do anything he or she isn't comfortable with. As for SPs taking swipes at one another, sadly, yes, I can attest that it's true. Business hasn't been great lately, and people are starting to get nervous. One of my friends has made numerous comments suggesting that she thinks I'm getting more business because I give bbbj -- but as we see here on this board, there are as many guys who will avoid an SP who provides this service as will go with one. And besides, it's a silly point since I mostly work with regular clientele, some of whom have been coming back to me for ages -- I've been in Ottawa since 1989, and I have clients I've been seeing regularly here since then! She takes many new clients, but I don't -- and I have strong age and other preferences that limit me as well, that she isn't saddled with. Times are simply tough, and she's looking for someone to blame. And just last month, someone reported some of the pics on my site that were being hosted by Picasa, and google removed them. I believe this was another SP (although probably not one I know -- I hope not, anyway!). The pics removed certainly weren't obscene, there wasn't even any full nudity, and similar or more erotic ones weren't flagged. I suppose it could have just been some troll, but it smacks of another SP. I also find that any ad I've ever placed on has been quickly flagged, even though I've never posted anything that violates the terms of use, and ads which are in obvious violation are allowed to stand. For about a year, there was some crazy chick who used to get her dumber-than-a-post boyfriend to call me up and make rude remarks, and when that didn't work, she'd grab the phone and start screaming that I was old and when was I going to retire? (I tell her "when people stop making appointments, of course!" ;-) ) I think we are in for a bit of a rough go with the economy over the next year or so. Gas prices last summer ate into the play money for most of us. Many of my clients are seniors and have been in shock since about mid-September. Recently, I'm starting to hear that some of my younger clients are getting laid-off. That not withstanding, right now, I think a large part of what we're dealing with is psychology -- not economy. There will be those who react to this without grace or integrity -- but we're all adults and we know it when we see it. I recommend just ignoring it. ..c..

First, think about this notion that we shouldn't work for the days of the month that we're menstruating -- is it practical? How many guys here would be willing to stand down 2-7 days with out pay every single month? Most SPs aren't living off their trust funds. We have to make livings and support our families just like any of our customers. Secondly, no, you can't always know when it's going to happen. Sometimes you get absolutely no warning; other times, you're symptomatic for nearly two weeks. Sometimes a woman will have a regular cycle, and at other times of her life, not. It's just not a reasonable expectation that we should know for sure. Nature didn't build the system this way. Third, there are many customers out there who don't mind -- either because they're old-hands at marriage and accustomed to a woman's various "moons" or because they don't require the type of services where it would be a problem. My suggestions to younger sps: 1) This is another reason why it's important to build a good strong base of regular clientele. That way, when you know you're coming up on or in that time of the month, you'll have a better idea who you can see and who you shouldn't. If a guy is into DATY, then he's probably not a good candidate. (I say "probably" because I've met men who swore they didn't mind.) It doesn't hurt to cultivate regulars with a broad range of interests. Not only will this come in handy when you are in your moon, it might save your butt right after having dental surgery. Think about it! 2) Use a barrier (such as a cup or sponge) when a moon is imminent, just to prevent an accident. (If nothing else, it's hell on the sheets.) 3) Don't take new customers when a moon is full or imminent. 4) Be honest with your regulars and let them decide for themselves. They might surprise you! 5) Again -- and I can't say this often enough -- if you can't give a guy what he wants, don't take his money. I am in menopause and I'm thrilled! I haven't had a moon since November -- although a week or so back, I did spot a bit after a particularly vigorous bit of "rumpy pumpy" with a friend. It quit again right after that, though. (I still have an IUD, so that might have been a factor.) I look at this as the final frontier of my adventure as a woman! I did have one 24-hour period during which I bawled like a baby and considered everything from divorce to suicide to homicide to running away and joining the circus. (And when I ran out of things to be pissed off at/wounded over, I downloaded Sarah McLauchlan's "Angel" and played it over and over, while wringing out the last of my tears.) Once I realized it was hormonal, though, it all seemed pretty hilarious! I don't mind the hot flashes either! They feel a bit like cinnamon tastes. (Of course, that's in the dead of winter. I might be singing a different tune come the sticky heat of mid-July.) Moons are part of us. I don't like the idea of using chemicals to prevent them -- that seems unnatural to me, and like one of those things that, decades from now, we're going to wish we'd never tampered with. Trust nature and your body. ..c..

I prefer not to see a photo before a client comes to see me. A photo doesn't usually show the twinkle in his eye, the softness of his voice or his character; the things that can turn you on even if he's missing a leg! One of the things I have so appreciated about this business is that now I no longer look for a man who has a specific physical attribute. The most exciting sex has come with men who are sly and quiet, surprise you with the best kisses (I love the kissing lol...) knowing where your g spot is and taking the time to find it, over and over... Sometimes it's the hunky ones who are the worst lovers. They don't always make an effort; they've never had to. There's a song by Millie Jackson from the 1970's called Ugly Men. She says, ladies if you want to have a good time, get youself an ugly man. He hasn't had it in a long time and he don't know when he gonna get it again! lol... The physical part of this business is what we focus on .. but the real person is hidden... and finding that is when the real good sex begins.... :-D

I think the guys would be surprised how much information is available on the web about them I was going to post the information about the sex workers conference in Toronto (on a different board today) when I remembered the spoc bad date list... http://www.spoc.ca/bd08.html That's just the '08 ones that have been reported, since one needs to remember that 85% of sex workers are inside workers and that most of those bad dates are outside workers one has to wonder how many went unreported again. In addition the vast majority of them are Toronto based, I'd guess it's not because Toronto has a higher % of crime against sex workers but rather that the special victims unit is supportive of the girls when reporting a crime. I myself have had to contact them in the past and they were excellent, I am surprised more girls in the city do not report issues with bad dates. Anyway that's a topic for another thread. ;)

I have one thats kinda funny and at the same time a big turn on Well not to long ago I had posted an ad with the headlines Caution slippery when wet... It was early in the morning and I was feeling very feisty. Things got a bit heated, juices get to flowing and I ended it with a nice squirt Well im sure all you woman can relate on how rubbery ones legs be after this as I go to get up I really should of listened to my own words!! I slip on my own juices and fall purrfectly back on to his....I really don't think I need to finsh that part of the story lol but its safe to say it was a interesting way to start round two ;) I will never forget that morning thats for sure!! xoxox

I love being a dirty "young" man at this point. Still creeping closer to being a dirty old man, almost there

There is currently a separate ongoing thread discussing the merits of whether hobbiests should have their own secular "reputation points" system. I'm suspect that this is an issue easily resolved. However, I would be interested in a somewhat similiar discussion. Simply put,....from the SP's perspective..."What was your favourite experience?"...,"What makes/breaks the atmosphere for you during a session?"..." If the hobbiest looks like George Costanza but sings like Julio Iglassias....is that enough?" I think you know where I'm going with this....perhaps some of you talented, charming and lovely SP's could look upon this as an opportunity to ....."give us hobbiests a little direction and incentive".....either way..I think that it could be fun. I don't believe that any names need to be mentioned...but if the experience was shared....I'm sure the hobbiest would know who the SP was speaking of. 8-)8-)

Okay I'm not even sure where to start. If you could please provide some references for the information you have provided I'd appreciate it, as I strongly disagree with your theories and the many lectures and courses I've attended have taught me differently I would like to know your sources in order to compare. Rather than debating point by point I'll simply agree that negotiating is not a good idea but for vastly different reasons. I am a trained negotiator and have attended many workshops put on by various business schools on the art of negotiation and economic egagement. I've also taken many marketing and social science courses where I've learned that there is a difference in how people approach different scenarios and that the mind does not and cannot apply market values to all engagements, that many people actually apply social values to many business engagements and that this is actually a very effective way for people to do business and that we often achieve higher tangible results by setting a social values environment. When social values are applied to a setting you'll find that switching to a market values mindset often offends the other party. Imagine having your mother-in-law make a really nice dinner and instead of bringing a nice bottle of wine (which is a form of payment, but a gift is a socially accepted payment) you at the end of it decide to stand up and say "that was great, now what do I owe you?" and proceed to count out some cash and toss it on the table. That would be socially unacceptable, you would be applying market values to a social setting and she would not find it funny. Instead saying "That was wonderful and I appreciate your hard work, I'd like to get you a nice gift." would be a socially acceptable response. We as a society accept gifts in kind for our hard work in social situations. When escorts are working they generally apply social values, hence they ask for the money in an envelope and not to be discussed. Because the discussion of money begins to bring Market values into terms and they now have a business mindset which is hard to get out. They can no longer feel like they are out with a friend and having fun, which ruins the social mood, they are now applying market values. Since they cannot just accept gifts as they do require payment as a source of income they have found a way to keep the market values discussion to a minimum by using 3rd parties (agents) or using the advertisements to set rates on their behalf. Negotiation beyond an initial discussion will ensure that a market values mindset is in place and girls will feel like they are entering a business transaction which I cannot stress enough will for many not allow them to get the 'social/date' atmosphere back and they will not be able to enjoy their meeting. This is not about being professional or not, it's simply the way the majority of peoples minds work across all professions. This is an area of marketing that is studied and taught in Universities and Business Schools around the world and it's very effective in gaining our trust and getting our business. Understanding this is how we think and how we act goes a long way to explaining not only the SP industry but why we purchase the investments we do, why we select a certain Doctor, Bank, Insurance company (Like a good neighbour State Farm is there - an example of a social values marketing), etc. I would probably say that the opposite is true, it's a sign of professionalism for a girl to recognize that many clients apply social values to these situations and that avoiding a market value situation is important in ensuring a good call for a vast majority of clients. I have read many a review where the client posts that they felt uncomfortable that the topic of money was brought up, this is often because they unknowingly switched to a market value mindset and could not suspend the social values belief. A good friend would not have brought up the issue of money, it goes back to the scenario of counting out the money at the Mother-in-laws table, a good SP will recognize the difference and does not allow market values to enter the equation otherwise she risks putting her client in an awkward situation. Likewise clients that have a market values expectation of negotiating each detail should not book SP's that have social values and SP's that have market values should not seek clients that have social values, the two will not be able to engage each other and will feel terribly disconnected from each other. Studies show that most people once they apply market values to a situation they cannot return to social values. The majority of clients and ladies see it as a social environment and need to suspend the belief it is not a transaction so bringing market values into the transaction is not something that can be done. It is not about the persons abilty to negotiate, I know how to negotiate and have no difficulty doing that. It is about understanding marketing and social sciences. If you continue your research and learn more about the nuances of negotiation skills and the mindset behind it then perhaps you'll learn that there is a lot more than just the dollars and cents aspect. I'd suggest reading Predictably Irrational to start as that's the book I referenced most. In addition the MIT Opencourseware on Negotiation is an easy access if you don't have access to the certification programs at Shulich or Rotman. http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Sloan-School-of-Management/15-667Spring2001/Syllabus/index.htm

OK, I have some input on this. I provide service of a different kind and my clients share( by word of mouth) how good my service is. This is how I get more business. I would never share with them personally or publically how their receipt of my service was, it would be terrible for business. I do however share with other providers of the same service if I have a non-paying client and over demanding client etc... Futhermore, An Actor doesn't review how well a movie goer watched his movie, a chef doesn't review his diners etc....Sps/MAs provide a service and we hobbiests review/recommend this service. Imagine your mechanic telling other car owners how well or poorly you maintain your car, a dentist your teeth or even a doctor your health... Every so often when reviewed/recommended an SP/MA will comment and its a nice feeling to get feedback, but I think a form dedicated would be unwise for Mod, Hobbiest and SP/MA alike. Just my very humble opinion.

I just wanted to send a heartfelt thank you to all the ladies out there for all that you do. You've enhanced my life (and I'm sure countless others) in so many ways... It's very much appreciated!

When I first started this thread last fall (it keeps popping up) my thoughts were exactly as pointed out by Kimberly Shea, but at the same time, I respect the right of any SP to place any condition she feels as necessary on an appointment. It may not be, IMHO, the best business decision, and she may be missing out on some really good clients (like me - hahaha), but if that's what it takes to make her feel comfortable, that's her choice and I respect that. Different ladies are going to have very different sensitivities on this matter. I see SPs that are definitely successful asking for full name information as well ... something else that I would never be comfortable with. I would never want a SP to be anything other than completely comfortable with me as its going to take away from our time together. On the few occasions where I have contacted an independent SP, or any agency for the first time, I go out of my way to tell them a bit about myself including a physical description and my background, as well as mentioning my cerb name. That usually seems to evoke a positive response and hopefully is the start of a process to develop a sense of trust. So whatever conditions they wany want to impose in that regard, subject to my right to politely decline of course, is fine with me.

Don't worry about the rep points. I learnt that myself. Some long time members here have little or none, and some newbie members on here have more than 50 and are trusted members. Just be yourself and post as you want. Treat everyone on here with respect, and you will be fine.

Shall I be the first sp to comment? I didn?t read this entire thread just skimmed through it and everyone has good points. Just to let you know there are several boards for sp?s only in which we can verify men and also make comments on them which is for safety only, not to give details about his performance. The things that are usually noted are ?shows up on time as scheduled? and other important info that is necessary for this business. These sites are mostly in the USA but many Canadians also use them. I use them because I do occasionally work in the USA when I travel and I have many American clients who come up here. P411 is a good example here is a link http://www.preferred411.com. A clients first and last name, his phone number and occupation are listed. This way you don?t get any problems and if a guy is a problem everyone knows about it and he is stopped quickly before he can hurt anyone else, it also helps with no shows cause then if he screws up others will be hesitant to book him and if he doesn?t want to lose his good name then he will treat you with respect. this is more so needed in the USA because of the danger as escorting is more under ground there hence it being illegal. Since you can walk into a massage parlor here it isn?t needed so much. Men in the USA know to book escorts they need to give their info and they don?t have a problem with this. Anyways this was just to inform you that there are some systems set up incase you weren?t aware. I hope that made sense as I have a sinus headache. I wrote a review here once I think it may be in the fat bastard comedy section. :) Haven?t heard much from them lately maybe their agency folded.

I have been away for a few weeks and am doing some catching up. Wow! What a thread, but a really good one. There is really nothing I could add but I have a few comments. I have been a member for a long time and I love this community. Fortunately, I have never been contacted with these rumours but I can understand the angriness that they can generate when they are directed at specific people in a derogatory way. To this, yes it is important to verify the sources. And I agree with Cowboy Kenny and what he said. I am a fan of his blog (as many of you are I am convinced) but what I admire most is his integrity. He exposes the fraudulent people and they get pissed at him. Why? Because he has proofs, with valid links to fake photos. It's not just words in the air that he is inventing (like rumours are). But it also true that CERB is an increasingly popular forum but, a little popular or a lot popular, you will always get jackasses that will only try to instigate trouble. It's like when there is a riot; it's always the same people that are the instigators and they go from event to event, just to be the s**t disturbers that will wreak havoc. Respected senior members have brought invaluable information for everyone to share and it is sad that some of them are being the target of shameful defamation. To me, these members have become role models over time for newer members, who want to learn, who want to share and who want to become more active within this virtual community. Lastly, as these jackasses that are only trying to cause trouble will never go away, I tip my hat to the Mod, who is doing a great job to keep everything under control.

The girls have their private section with a bad date list and I am of the opinion that's the way it should stay. There's a few scenarios I can think of where this could become a problem in one way or another. Like if a guy doesn't get a review from a girl that he thought had a good time with him, maybe he would feel slighted. Might even go so far as to bring it up to her the next time he sees her and then she feels obligated to write a "review" for him and everybody else out there. And there could be a lot of reasons why a sp wouldn't write a review like, they just don't have the time because they've had 8 or 9 clients from the board in a given week. I don't think too many guys here see 8 or 9 different girls a week and if there are those that do, they sure as hell don't have time to write reviews for every single one of them. Or perhaps the client was good only in the sense that he was respectful and left a tip. Just because he wasn't a bad date, doesn't mean he was a good one either. This is still a business and I'm sorry to be blunt here, but there's no doubt in my mind that some clients are only good because of the money they provide. Furthermore, this board also acts as a marketplace of sorts. The paying customers are here to find information and make comments about the service they have received. As in any other business, it makes no sense for the entrepreneurs providing said service to openly display favouritism towards specific customers, since that could possibly hurt their business with those they are not getting the same respect. My two cents...