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I'm not at all worried about this kind of thing happening with my son, Sixernine. I am no one's servant, period. Like Emma, I only use the term "service provider" here. I say that I'm a companion, too. I provide genuine companionship, warm friendship and a non-judgmental attitude. I feel it's an honour to have the opportunity to know my clients on personal and intimate terms. I have their trust and they have mine. I do have sex with them, not because they've paid for it, but because I choose to. Two of my long-time, regular clients occasionally want me to go out to lunch, or just cuddle with them while they talk about whatever is on their minds. They want my opinion about things they care about. I feel that we're equals. There's nothing subservient about me. In my opinion, unless a woman has a pretty strong sense of herself; unless she's able to set her own limits about what she does, where, when and with whom; unless she's able to take care of her own emotional and psychological needs without depending on her clients to shore her up; and unless she believes in her whole self, in all of who she is, with and without clients, in and out of bed, she'll have a very hard time in this profession. That's not because the clientele is difficult: if you like men and enjoy sex, they're not hard to be with at all. It's because human needs for closeness, physical contact, affection and sexual activity are truly essential: they're a fundamental part of our makeup. We can have a hell of a great time together in bed, but we're fooling ourselves if we ignore how truly naked we are. Not everyone can share so much with many partners and feel whole. The ones who can't are wise to find another path. I think that my work encourages me to have greater empathy and compassion for other people. It's my belief that compassion is the antidote to discrimination and inequity. I've learned a lot about myself and other people through this profession. My ideas of who and what is attractive, and who I might choose for a temporary or ongoing partner (unpaid, that is), have changed significantly. Men I once would not have approached with an eye to ending up in bed together are often the most sensitive, creative and playful! As for what my son might pick up from me, I notice that children reflect what their parents feel. My son is a strong young man with an admirable sense of justice and empathy. I've seen him help and defend other kids who are having a hard time and are unpopular or difficult to be with. Once, when I asked him why he stood up for another kid, he said, "I looked at him, and right then I knew that it was really, really hard just to be him every day. I couldn't walk by and not try to stop what was happening. If you don't speak out when someone is being hurt, it's like you're saying it's okay to hurt them. He's not really my friend, but you don't have to be my friend to deserve to be treated right."

So I just completed the phone survey. Ladies I promise its painless. In fact its nice to advocate for an industry that is always seen as dirty and criminal. I love what I do and I love the men that I see. I would love too see in my time, escorting become legal and socially acceptable. But before acceptance comes awareness. Lets advocate for Ottawa Sp's, we are educated, beautiful, nurturing lovers, who are wife's, mothers, daughters and sister's. Kisses and big thanks to Erin.

October 27, 2008 This morning I had the distinct pleasure of meeting another pure beautiful lady from Montreal?s French Kiss Society, Emmie Olsen. I guess you could say it was a belated birthday present for me. Emmie is a knock out gorgeous lady with a magnificent measurement of 38c-27-38, she has beautiful fair, milky soft skin to touch and explore her gorgeous face with full lips, and sky blue eyes which are the type of ?bedroom eyes? that simply had me memorized of her stunning beauty. Our encounter was of our, fingers, legs; toes and souls that were so absorbed with one another?s passion for each other I did not want leave her. As a matter of fact I had asked her ?where have you been all this time?? It was the most pleasurable morning and I thoroughly enjoyed myself with the time spent with Emmie, from the perspective of enjoying each other?s company, as we hit it off well from small chat and to the exploration of each other?s bodies. As requested I will not go into explicit detail about our date this morning, let?s just say if Emmie was in here Ottawa full time, I certainly would be hooked on her. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5951 Thanks so much to Charlotte at FKS for setting up our date, Emmie is/was amazing!

I'll see how the "spring break" offer turns out. After wondering whether it would make a difference, I've now made three new bookings for tomorrow and Friday. Will they show up? Cancel or Postpone? I'll see! Another tricky aspect of pricing is how much you want to work. Low rates attract more clients, but do you want to do a lot of volume? I don't offer half-hour sessions. It's not my style to be in a hurry. I prefer to offer a leisurely, relaxing experience to the client. It also takes time to be ready to see another client. I do just as much preparation whether the client is going to be with me for one hour or two. I'd do the same for half-hour meetings. In the end, I'd be less relaxed and less ready mentally to offer a great session if I felt I had to see five or six clients for half an hour each, every day. I'm not putting down anyone who gives this kind of service, it's just not right for me.

I don't think anyone was implying that anyone thought less of someone who has a sale or makes a special offer. Although I don't think the "sale" strategy would work well for us -- after all, it's not like we're looking to get rid of last season's inventory here! I suspect that having sales would lead to guys holding out for them. As you note, Dummpy, Ottawa has a healthy contingent of bargain basement shoppers. I know that my husband and I take very much this same approach to buying meat -- we know it will come on sale several times a year, so we wait until then to buy it. Not sure it would work as well with an escort, though, as we don't really freeze well! ;-) ..c..

But what if you met someone who gave you a really terrific experience? Would you forgo seeing her a second time merely over money? I suppose some would -- but many more, it's been my experience, would be happy to pay a higher rate for subsequent visits when they know it's a sure thing. (And when I experimented with this, ironically, I also found the reverse was true. The intro rate allowed certain customers to see me at least once who otherwise might not have been able to afford to do so. And a few of them, it turned out, I was happy continuing to accept the lower rate from as their needs were less than my typical clients and I liked them. So it works both ways.) If it's not seen as fair to both by both, then it's not fair. Plain and simple. If two people cannot agree on what's fair, then they're not for each other. Wouldn't you agree? (However, I would suggest to any SP trying this that in the event of a dispute over what's fair, she accept the customer's decision. If he wishes to return to her, then at that time, it will be up to her whether to accept it a second time.) But you make a salient point regarding baselines. Pricing in our business is all over the road. I even read a thread on here last summer about someone who was charging $30. !!! There is absolutely no way that any SP who is supporting herself through this could match that rate. It isn't at all uncommon that we have to compete with people who essentially are not relying on this for their livelihood, and who are, basically, just looking to make a little "pin money." Some ideas might be to have the SP publish her expected rates. Or another idea might be for an impartial third party (CERB?) to publish a median rate for an area. But that's just the thing. I'm not suggesting replacing it, but rather, strengthening it. I'm not suggesting for a minute that any SP would have to take customers that she might not otherwise -- rather, I think being selective would be even more crucial under such a pricing structure. And too, we also have a problem in our business with people slapping a high price sticker on themselves just because they think they can.And many of them do well with once-offs this way. The true measure of an SP, from what I can see, is her ability to generate repeat business. Such SPs should have no difficulty doing well under a "pay what you think is fair" or "introductory rate" pricing plan. Really, I think this is a very exciting and worthwhile idea. I'd try it myself except I've been around a long time and I deal almost exclusively with regulars. If I see a new customer in a month, it's like woohoo! ;-) ..c..

I don't know. I think with some tweaks, it could work. At first they might -- but they might also learn something from it too. I think the cream would rise, and the rest would flush. For the simple reason that guys would quickly learn that any excuses they gave for not wanting to pay a full rate the first time may very well prejudice an SP against giving them another appointment. In times like these, it might be better to have a situation like that than to have to drop your rates, indiscriminantly, across the board. Yeah, I've met guys like that. I always tell them that maybe they should place an ad. I doubt I'll need their services, as between my personal life and my work, I'm good -- but I'd be happy to give them a review. So... if that's the case, why are they using the services of SPs? Why don't they just go get a 1-night stand? Yep, met a few of them too. One option is to send them packing. Another, more deliciously evil, approach is to see them and give them the most amazing session ever. And take up the matter with them the next time they want to come back. (I've done this! Too much fun. ;) ) That's a good question, but for many of us, deciding who to see is the big question anyway. Being selective would be as important as ever, of course. Asking customers who want to take advantage of this offer to verify might dissuade some of the cheaters, and keep us safer too. But that said, the key here is "fair" -- if someone is out to cheat you, obviously they're not going to be fair with you anyway. I was trying to think of what some of the more legit reasons might be given for paying less than posted rates on the basis of fairness. Here's a couple I've thought of so far: "Other girls charge this rate." Well, that's true -- but why not see one of them then? Why come back to me? "I'd pay you more if I could, but I just don't have it." This is a tricky one, especially in a bad economy, when there are a lot of lay-offs and such. Obviously this is a luxury -- not an entitlement. Depending on how well you like the guy, you might want to either tell him that he'll have to do better if he wants to see you again. Or agree to see him at that rate but only temporarily -- say, revisit the rate in so many months, or if he gets another job. Or see if you can negotiate for something else that serves both your interests. (My personal favourite: ) "Yeah, well, what about right now? You're not doing anything. At least if I came over, you'd make something, eh?" Mm-hmm. But what if something better comes in and I miss it because I'm with you? Like my grandma used to say: if Prince Charming rides by while you're out back kissing frogs, you just might miss him! When I read the article, my first thought was that while it was working for the cafe at this point in time, I don't think he'll get durable results with it. However, I think it could possibly work for us. I'm not suggesting anyone try it (or even saying I'd try it), but some variations on the theme might be to keep your published rates, but make it clear to a *qualified* customer the first time that he can pay what he feels is fair. If he pays less than your rates, then you know he either wasn't that impressed with you, or he's cheap, or he just doesn't have the money. All that's information you can use in deciding whether to see him again, or prioritizing him against other offers. Another option might be to agree on a rate for an introductory session, but make it clear that subsequent sessions will be at full prices, if he wants to come back. I've actually tried this, and not only have I had people come back happy to pay the full rate after a discounted first session, but I was surprised to have met a few guys who could never have afforded me at my full rate, but also don't need anywhere near my full service or time. It can be a way of connecting with people you might otherwise have overlooked. Pricing is something that has always fascinated me about the business. It's interesting to note that when I first worked in Toronto in 1982, my rate was $250/hr. Today, it's still $250/hr -- only it buys a helluva lot less! Still, I'm not entirely sure we can blame the guys for that. Sure, they're trying to get a deal -- and yes, some are trying to cheat us -- but often they're also just trying not to get ripped off. I've worked in other places and times when the pricing structures were extremely predatory and unfair to the customer (such as working on "tips" expecting a guy to negotiate with a hard on). ..c..

In Canada? Not that I know of and I have been in the business for 12+ years and in the stripclub business for many years before that. In the USA yes, prostitution is illegal except for the legal brothels outside Vegas. I am not aware of anywhere else in the USA where prostitution is legal. In Canada it's legal unless you tricked into speaking about sex in public. In Winnipeg recently the police were asking the ladies to a hotel and asking them to join them for a drink in the lounge (a public place) before going to the room. If in public you discuss anything that could be related to the call or sex and proceed to the room you have now committed a offense (Public Solicitation). If you make the booking by phone or email (or chatroom or pm) and go to a PRIVATE apartment/condo/house/hotel room/etc... (and close the door so it is just you and him in the room) it is no longer a PUBLIC PLACE so you are free to discuss sex in private for the exchange of money. Prostitution is LEGAL in Canada it's the surrounding laws that make it hard to follow the law. 1) No pimping (Living off the avails of prostitution if you are not the one prostituting) 2) No public solicitation (Aka: discussions of sex in a public place - you can advertise in newspapers and magazines and online without breaking this law) 3) No procuring (Bringing someone into the business) 4) No common bawdy house (No in call locations - this is usually only a problem with multiple ladies are working our of a location or a business like a massage spa offering full service but technically a single lady working out of one location is a common bawdy house by definition but the police seam to ignore this and they should as it's safer for the ladies to work this way and they are not harming anyone) 5) No underage (18 years of age) If you follow those rules your ok so outcall prostitution where you are the only one profiting from your actions, you do not discuss ANYTHING in public and you are of legal age and do not coherse someone else into getting into the business your ok. You also can not legally bring someone to a place of prostitution (Read section 210-212 of the criminal code of Canada - I think we have a link here in the Canada Law on Prostitution page). Some municipalities (windsor, calgary, edmonton, winnipeg that I know of) have municipal licenses (These are ways for the local police and municipal bylaw officers to combat prostitution without dealing with the criminal code - it helps them scare the ladies out of the city as they are not wanted - really it's crap as the "Escort" license says it's for dating and not prostitution as they can not license prostitutes. Note: A municipal bylaw offense is NOT a criminal charge, you do not get a record or go to jail for this. You pay a fine (like a parking ticket)

She met me at the door and made me feel right at home. She wore a smile and not much else. After a few minutes we went into her bedroom and got down to business. She asked what I liked, wanted, etc. and I told her....I got what I asked for. Excellent skills! Great with her hands, mouth, vag. or ass. She played with a toy and did some other things that I will not get into....worth my time and money. Hope to see her within the next week, if she has time. Oh, by the way I travelled from PEI to see her the first time...the second time I may have to stay longer!