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One more post from yourself and you will hit that mark of 500. :bowdown: Over the time and in your posts, I always thoroughly enjoyed reading all of your input into threads. Your continually logic,intelligence,humor, experience,wealth of information has never gone unnoticed especially by myself. You are very caring and great lady, that all of us enjoy on this board. May I hear much more from you in the near future, as you always have had intrigued myself. Congrats to Catherine a true valued member here at CERB!

Additionally A hobbyist that has seen a provider that is no longer available, therefore he cannot give a reference. This happens quite a bit. A hobbyist that has only been using an agency only for his encounters. A visiting hobbyist. I have asked some providers if I could use them as references but I find it uncomfortable asking such a question. I have found it very beneficial to have established a solid reputation here on Cerb and a number of times a reference has not been required.

It would be easier for me just to copy and past WIT's comments. What more can you possibly say about this amazing woman. She answered the door in a matching bra and pantie set. Led me down the hall to the bedroom where she proceeded to undress me. I love being undressed by a beautiful woman. She has incredible oral skills. I don't want to embarrass myself but it only took her 5 minutes to make me have my first orgasm. Then it was my turn to explore her body. I gave her a back massage that also included some kissing. She has a tickle spot but I wont tell you where it is. It will be more fun finding it for yourself. I continued down her body massaging her legs. She has beautiful legs. The view is amazing. She rolled over so I could continue massaging her. Wow. What a stunning body. Her breasts are heavenly. I truly enjoyed massaging them and playing with her nipples. I continued massaging further down her body. For some reason I no longer wanted to massage. I now wanted to taste this lovely woman. I started off slow. I love pleasing a woman orally. As her moaning got louder I quickened my pace. I could have stayed there all day. It was heaven. The sexual positions were amazing. I would love to have taped our escapade but for some reason I don't want to see my body in it. Parts of me sure. We tried several positions and I only wish we had time for more. We cuddled for a few minutes talking about what to see and where to eat in Halifax. Our time together was almost over and I was sure my body could take no more, or so I thought. She was not finished with me yet. She proceeded to give me an incredible prostate massage while she devoured my cock once again. Wow. I have never been so sexually drained. I got home and slept for 6 hours. Of course I had a hard time sleeping the night before as I kept thinking about being with Victoria. If you have the opportunity to visit with this lovely lady take the plunge. You will not regret it. Until we meet again. :grin:

Vanessa, when you say this: "how ever I am puzzled regarding all of the the unprotected activities people are willing to take part in ..so my question is this (to the SP's)....do these "no restrictions" policies apply to whomever you meet with????", it does sound like your judging a bit... But that's ok. ;) I have of course some restrictions but only a few. I'm not comfortable discussing publicly what they are but I still can answer some of your questions. First of all, just a little clarification: it would be nice if people stop assuming that SPs who are more "liberal" only care about making good business. Some of us want to enjoy ourselves sexually as much as possible and that's why we share some specific intimate acts with the men we meet. For example, I really like kissing and that's the main reason why I offer it. I voluntarily meet only a few men weekly so the "volume" is not an issue for me. Would I be so open if I was seeing several men a day? Probably not. Do I offer the exact same type of service to every men I meet? No, I don't. I'm hoping the people I select are smart enough to understand that chemistry and personal hygiene plays an important part in how I will interact with them. Don't get me wrong, I always do my best to please whoever I spend time with. But that "best" is influenced by the context of the encounter and it's only natural that the more we hit it off, the more giving I will be. I never had a situation where my partner told me they were upset because I did not do this or do that. I never even sensed it. If the day comes when someone tells me they don't accept my personal limits, I will have to explain to them that eventhough I'm an escort, I'm first and foremost a human being.

This is possibly the best thread I've read since discovering CERB last summer. I think everyone should thank Cat and the MOD for the light they've shed on the mechanics behind how an agency works. Everyone should consider themselves better for it. For my part, lacking the experience of many of the other members, I have had very excellent experiences with SPs who are agency and independant and some questionable ones on both sides as well. One thing I always try to determine is if the SP is treated well and protected by her agency, if there is one. But Cat brings up a point that makes my blood hot. Whenever I hear about "men" who treat SPs poorly, without provacation or reason, my patience definitely expires. It boggles my imagination how useless these guys are. It makes you wonder how they may treat other people in their lives, particularly an SO. I have always strived to make sure that I treat the ladies with respect and dignity, and if I have not then it is my failure of character. NO matter how the SP is percieved, they deserve to be treated well. I hope the ladies who grace CERB know how well they're regarded and appreciated and can forget the losers who forget it. Or didn't know it to begin with.

This is a discussion I get very passionate about. Having sat on both sides of the fence I can say with certainty that it is a community effort to provide quality industry wide. Here is a little insight into both agencies and indies that many do not understand. Both serve a specific clientele and are necessary. Some may find it interesting reading, others will not. AGENCIES The agency acts as an AGENT for SP's that choose not to handle the business side of this industry. The Agency works for the SP. Here is a situation that can be ideal for ladies who are not business oriented, do not want their bodies plastered over the internet for a myriad of reasons and make a choice to allow someone else to do the tasks they do not want or can't do. It is the easiest gateway into this industry and a perfect place for a beginner to get her feet wet. Beginners, tho the demand is high for them, are the most unstable and unreliable group to deal with on a day to day basis due to their age and inexperience. You never know how this business is going to impact them mentally, physically and spiritually. Agencies need staff stability so their SP's are on shifts which means they may be working when they would rather be home in bed. Agency staff have to be receptionist, negotiator, schedule manager, counselor, confessional priest, fashion adviser, bookkeeper, trouble spotter, deescalation expert and last but not least task master just to name a few of the hats they wear simultaneously. If there is more than one person on the phone at a time they are lucky. Good Agency staff have more on their plate than anyone imagines. If their plate is not overflowing, they are not doing their job. I had many wonderful girls come to work for me that seemed very well suited and by the third week they were a mess. Why does this happen? I constantly tried to improve my agency to ensure my girls were cared for. 10 years later, I am proud to still call many of them friends. So what was the problem? The only factor that was consistent and I had no control over was the clients. Many men who use agencies do not treat the SP as a person. A girl can run 5 appointments in an evening and it only takes one to screw her night up. This is not a business for the tender hearted or thin skinned. Because Agencies have a younger SP base, the girls take things personally and there can be serious damage done to their self esteem. The damage can be cumulative, and 6 months after a sweetheart starts she can end up seeming hard, uncaring and cold if she is not protected and cared for by her Agency. Many Agency SP's carry shame about what they are doing because they are still operating on the belief system our society instills in most of us. All it takes is one client that has that "your disposable" energy and she's hit. He doesn't even have to say anything, it's a feeling and once it touches you, you can't scrub it off you with stainless steel wool. Younger SP's haven't yet found their inner strength as a woman, let alone make friends with the wildness within. Most struggle with living a secret life and trying to reconcile who she thinks she is with who she truly is. This not just a job, it is a challenge to ingrained beliefs that have been there for generations. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to jump into this industry. It takes perseverance and a rare determination to stay in it long term. Running with an agency can be incredibly hard even for a seasoned pro. More often than not, SP's arrive on the Agency steps with more baggage than a luggage carousel. No little girl grows up wanting to be an SP. 99% of the time life hands them circumstances and they end up in a bind for $$$. They look to this income to fix their problems. What they don't realize is that $$$ doesn't solve the real problems, just alleviate the symptoms. So if an agency SP doesn't live up to her ad, take a look at her age and try and imagine her circumstances. You very well maybe the nice guy who's booked after the jerk. That said, if you are not happy with your service, an agency has more leeway to rectify the situation by offering a next time discount or some other type of perk to keep a customer. But it is up to you to call immediately and let them know. They can't fix it if they don't know it's happened. There are many ladies who thrive with an Agency because they are people oriented and take their work seriously. You will find they are either older or have a maturity that is unusual for their age. A truly good Agency does not have a problem keeping staff, SP's or clients. There are certain markets that make it challenging for an Agency to maintain staff, and I take my hat off to Agencies that service Ottawa. This is not an easy market. Agencies in Ottawa charge what the market will bear and in my humble opinion you get what you pay for. Indies Indies are a different breed of woman. Most started with an Agency but figured out quickly that we like to have more control over our business. We understand the responsibility and dedication it takes to run our own business. Younger Indies are learning as they go. The difference between them and their Agency counterparts is that they can take the time off when they need/want to and do not usually maintain a regular schedule. Do Indies have bad days? Of course they do. We have the option of canceling our day, but we seriously risk damaging our reputation. We have the same "ah ha" moments as Agency SP's, but we have no one to blame when they happen but ourselves. We alone are responsible for who we entertain so when things go wrong we carry the burden, when things go right we carry the glory. We have to wear the same hats as the agency owner and be our own cheer squad. We also come to realize our faults and weaknesses quicker because we are a 1 man show. Indies are usually more comfortable with who they are and what they do. They are more willing to take responsibility when things go wrong. Who does a client complain to when an appointment with an Indie awry? Most clients say nothing, chalk it up to experience and move on. The client should let the Indie know so she can fix it. We go the extra mile because we understand the long term financial impact of losing a client. Are Indies better value? That all depends, what is valuable to you? cat P.S. I had more to write about Indies but my "s" button popped off!