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This isn't a poor me thread, or looking for sympathy or anything of that sort. But just a reminder for those who are in the situation I once was, that you have a choice, albeit a tough one. I was watching something on TV that just stuck with me all week. It was of this woman who was made to feel bad because she was upset with her partner's bad treatment of her. To clarify, he treated her bad, she got upset about it, he blamed her for making him feel bad because of her being upset. I'd love to say that this hasn't happened to me. Or someone I love dearly. But it happens, and it doesn't necessarily happen in a typical relationship. It can be between a parent and a child, supposed friends, and so on. In my case, I kept quiet about constantly being put down a fair bit, actually almost always. She got used to it, and when I started to speak up, things started to go downhill fast from there. She made feeble attempts to try better, moments that I'd place an incredible amount of importance while downplaying the elephant in the room. I made the decision, rather unconsciously to stop it all. I started to withdraw, and after one pretty uncalled for insult, I just gave up. It took me 4 years, and 2 months. The month after was one of the hardest and the most self consuming/unproductive of my life. I made the right decision, but felt terrible for doing so and thought about just going back. It took so much to not choose the easy option, except the thought in my mind that it would only be temporary. Some how, slowly, it got better. It's not perfect, and it hurts time to time, and I try not to think of her at all, good or bad moments. I guess my point for this thread is for the people here who ever find themselves being put down, and to some point it's been therapeutic to just say it (my family just knows I don't talk to her at all). From experience, no one who loves you will put you down. I made so many excuses in my mind that my relationship with her would get better, it never did, and if I stayed, I'm sure it never will. It is my suggestion that you don't look for answers from them as to why it went so bad, they are the reason. And most importantly, it may hurt in a manner that I can not describe when you do decide to call it quits. It will end, it will get better and your life will be better off without whoever that person is.

There are a number of personal reasons why a provider may not have recommendations. I have not had a new reco in almost 4 years by choice. I am simply not comfortable with intimate details of time shared floating out there in the world strictly for entertainment value. Some providers have SO's or children and don't want those details out there for their loved ones to read by chance in the event they are outed. Others have stalker issues and the less said about her the better her chances for safety sake. Some providers are part time with full time employment and out of respect to their employer they prefer to fly under the radar. These are also the same reasons they don't use pictures that are identifying. My gentle suggestion is to spend some time getting to know the provider via pm or email. Look at her advertising. Is she professional? Does she respond in a timely manner to your inquiries and answer your questions to your satisfaction? If so, then chances are you won't be disappointed... cat

My CERB Goddess Of The Day Today is Kylie Daniels. I first noticed Kylie through her posts on CERB, and looked up her CERB profile. From there, I checked out her website. And yes, while I did look at her photos, what really caught my attention on her website...she is learning to fly fish, and one gift she lists is a Bass Pro Shops gift card, a girl after my heart. So I contacted Kylie and I have an encounter scheduled with her at the end of August And she is a case in point, if she didn't have a CERB Profile, I never would have noticed her. Here is Kylie's Profile http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=54503 Here is something, as Kylie puts it, to arouse the senses OK, I'll post a second photo We haven't had our encounter yet Kylie, but I'm looking forward to meeting you at the end of August RG

There seems to be a new trend on the rise. A very unsafe new trend. Numerous ladies, including myself, have reported an increase in a request for BBFS. These requests are often accompagnied by offers of increased donations or promises of their youth and good looks. Please note that no reputable lady will have intercourse without a condom no matter the offer. It is degrading, dangerous and just plain stupid to be seeking unprotected sex with any stranger! Get yourself into a monogamous relationship if no condom is what you require to get off!

As I have received many questions as to "who is responsible" for shutting the social down, I will simple say this: It is not my place to say. If they wish to come forward and explain their own reasons I would welcome that, but otherwise I would not presume to speak for them or for their motives. I think that it would be just be best to put it behinds us, learn from our mistakes, and move on. Anything else is just a waste of time, in my opinion.

Ladies and Gentlemen of CERB, It is with great disappointment that I must announce the cancelation of the Halifax CERB social. I have been informed that because I am a new member and have not hobbied for the past two years (due to financial issues), that the ladies of this website will not endorse the social as run by me. In response, I offered to step down and give over the organization to someone else. This offer was turned down. I am not laying fault at anyone's doorstep. In fact I believe that this is simply a situation where too many people have too much to risk to get properly involved/dedicated. I have done everything in my power, from meeting people in person to addressing any concerns people have online, and it is time for me to admit defeat. To all of the gentlemen who have already sent me your social fee, please PM me as to how you would like to go about receiving your full-refund. Finally, I would like to thank everyone who gave me advice, suggestions, offered to help, and cheered me on. I sincerely hope that someone can pull something like this together someday. Many of you deserve it.

Not necessarily. Some men just don't write recos and maybe that's who she sees. There could be a number of reasons why there are no reocs. Doesn't mean they are bad reasons. You could always be the first one. Reputation points have nothing to do how popular you are. The points are given on thread topics... usually for someone agreeing with you.

Well there is a point yet to be made here and then I think everyone has done a great job of covering the subject. I re-read the whole thread and saw these words (small sample) "Dangerous, stupid, incomprehensible, crazy risk, extremely disturbing" but it's the remark about the otherwise "safe environment" I have to comment on. CFS is not safe, it's just less riskier. If you knew as a matter of "fact" that your partner had AIDS (or lets be less dramatic and say genital herpes) and you know this to be true, would you consider a condom adequate protection? I know I wouldn't. As clients or SPs and consenting adults were are accepting a certain level of risk as acceptable but let there be no doubt there is still a risk. Just as any SP offering BBBJ is at risk of offering CIM even if they don't plan to (by extension - surprise), any SP offering CFS is subject to it becoming BBFS by surprise. Personally I have experienced two different types of malfunctions and thankfully many years ago now. One is like a balloon, poof no more condom (that matters) and the other type of failure is not as pronounced or immediately noticeable, but condoms absolutely do fail and even when they don't there is still a risk. Of course it is "Dangerous, stupid, incomprehensible, crazy risk, extremely disturbing" to intentionally take more risk than you must but my point is that CFS can become BBFS very suddenly and quite unexpectedly and you clearly have to consider that an acceptable risk and realize that you are taking that risk so I wouldn't call it otherwise "safe", just less risk and therefore a sensible precaution.

Enjoying the sun today, mameso in hand, and family on the way! To share with them my vaccation pic's from BC:) Love days like this, life is good!

I knocked on the door with a hesitant smile and when I left, I left with my body tingling! I just arrived home from spending an incredible evening with Gabriella, one that I am quite sure I will never forget. As I said above the evening left me with everything from an active memory to a spent body. The "Gabby Experience" is something that I was truly not prepared for...in all the positive ways. The greeting at the door was as if we had met 100 times before (it was our first meeting) and the experience that followed was, well it was heated to say the least. After the initial "meet and greet" Gabriella gave me a tour of her room and we sat and became acquainted. As time passed the conversation loosened and became more fluid, all the while laced with flirtatious overtures. As we conversed on the bed we both started to get a feel for how our evening was going to progress and how we may feel at the end of our time together. As usual I will not reveal any of the specifics of our play time but rest assured Gabriella is an eye opening experience that is best realized in person...not written words. By that I mean some things in this world have to be seen to be believed. The Great Pyramid in Egypt, Niagara Falls, The Kremlin and now I would add Gabriella to that list! Her personality and attitude are surpassed only by her skills and talents in the bedroom and I submit that that is a lethally sexy combination! So here is to you Gabriella for giving me an experience that I was honestly not expecting and thank you for Mr. Pinky and sticky hugs as well.

Male or female. We will always be nervous going out in a public place as SP's and hobbyist. Who knows who will hear what, privacy and discretion is key and some gents and ladies don't want to appear in public out of fear of being outed. This is a very private business for many ladies and the gents. You were so digging a major hole, you basically bashed all the reputable local ladies with your clock watching comment and no msog. Just because a recommendation doesn't say msog doesn't mean it's not offered and sometimes you just get drained the first time around, especially if you book only an hour...I'm not speaking of you, just in general, we have never met. To be honest, this was not the thread for your rant about the locals not being up to par with other places or touring ladies. It was very insulting. All my love, Lexy

I had to google "sui generis". Agrinion, Greece

Exactly, there are a great number of reasons there may be many recommendations or hardly any. For instance, cat has a truly extraordinary reputation but if I was to visit with her I would only write a recommendation if she mentioned she would like me to, and then I would first route the content of it through her for her approval before posting it, so the fact that there are no new recommendations in four years is in and of itself a recommendation that she doesn't need any more recommendations. In this case her participation in the discussions and presence here on CERB speaks volumes. Each case is different, a new provider with the glowing recommendations building up is also impressive. My approach, in the absence of sufficient empirical data (and in general always when not otherwise impractical) is an introductory luncheon, not only is it a great break from an otherwise boring day to have a fun lunch with a beautiful lady but I leave such a lunch just knowing exactly how well we'll get along in the future. In fact if it is someone you haven't met before a lunch at a public restaurant always results in a better encounter later. Helpful to both as we are no longer complete strangers. So I have such a lunch and then wait for the lady to express interest in seeing me again, for me, there has to be mutual interest or it just wouldn't be any fun at all.

I am fairly new at this "hobby", having only been experiencing things for about 3 months now, and had started to settle in and think I knew what to expect, more or less, from these encounters...that is until I booked with Crystal a couple of weeks ago. Her looks are incomparable, and her body is breathtaking, but she also brought the whole massage experience up a notch to a whole new level for me. Crystal is magnificent! I can only imagine (for now) what a duo with her and Becky would be like...

Agreed....a real shame. I must admit that at first, I had misgivings about the whole thing, but I quickly realized that there would be no transgressions- legal or otherwise- to this get-together. I had as much to lose as anyone by attending, but due to the privacy aspect, I was not overly worried. We're almost all in the same boat to some extent. I'm not sure how to proceed in the future. I was provided a list of attendees and some of the names on there reassured me that it would be good fun. I was really looking forward to the event. Taloon, you've spent some time and money on the preparations out of your own pocket, so I would like you to keep my fee for the social as a partial reimbursement for those costs. Thanks for your efforts and I hope we can attempt this event again in the future.

Sorry to hear of your decision. I suspect that there won't be a social any time soon if members couldn't give you the trust and respect for all the hard work you did on this project. If done properly I think it's relatively low risk and maybe it would be a good idea to have a followup discussion about what was perceived as a risk. As for my money, it is a relatively small amount so have a pint on me or give it to a charity, your choice. Good luck.

I wouldn't base her service on her reputation points. Her numerous posts could be because she stays on top of advertising daily or every other day. Reputation points are usually earned because of a comment that you post around the forum. If someone posts mainly ads, it wouldn't give her a chance to earn rep points. I would only pay attention to a recommendation board if she has low or no participation on the forum. What other past clients have said about her can tell you volumes of what you can possibly expect should you decide to meet her.

I like Tokan, another small town boy (although my small town is smaller than his small town I think LOL), for his positive contributions to CERB and playing the music thread games And for a music game player, and from one small town boy to another, here's an appropriate song...don't know how true though :-) RG

I could watch this one all day. This one's from a humorous Masters Of Horror episode entitled "Deer Woman". She seduces men and then "hooves" them to death. Even knowing about the murderous deer legs I think I'd have trouble saying no.

It's a sad commentary on the way society at large *still* views those associated in any way, shape or form with the adult entertainment industry. In my opinion, women who choose this occupation as a means to an end, or to advance themselves financially in general, should be applauded for their shrewd business sense. Trust me, if I was a woman, I'd be doing the exact same thing!

Nice! I spent a good part of my day sitting on the beach by the ocean in PEI... Simply amazing! It was a perfect day all around!

An absolutely cracking day here. Sunny and warm, although a bit breezy. Lots of icebergs about. A gorgeous start to the long weekend.

Show me the money shot! Lol

That would be me! Ask any of my SP friends and they'll tell you I get off on seeing the cum shot!

I don't know of any SP's here on cerb that advertise/provide service 24/7, not saying there are 0 but certainly to say "most of the providers on here" do provide a 24/7 service is a gross exaggeration, in my opinion. You don't need to knock others to make yourself look better.

Ok, sorry but have to nominate one more for this day... Megforfun!!!! You are so cute with your humor, positive outlook on life! When in need for comic relief from otherwise too serious world, Meg is always there to add cheer and laughter!! I for one find laughter the sexiest thing!!! Thanks Meg, for being so cool, funny and what else can I say??? Those sexy legs doesn't hurt either:) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=27470

keissy hennessey I mean, come on! Breathtakingly beautiful! Plus, she tweeted that she thinks I have sexy legs lol. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=28847

My CERB Goddess of the day has already been mentioned, for good reason. She presents herself in such a classy manner. Her posts and threads are always intriguing and original. She always participates on the board. Well deserved, Miss Gabriella Laurence! Lets also not forget her very breath taking beauty!

Catherine St. Clair!!! Cat is the complete embodiment of poise, grace and ultimate class!! She is incredibly strong lady, but never jaded! She is warm, supportive the the sexiest bedroom eyes I have ever seen! And the most loveliest smile to go along with those amazing eyes! She is timeless in beauty and in character! I strive to have an ounce of grace!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=4978

My CERB Goddess of the Day today is a lady of international renown, who as of yet I have to meet. (but I'm waiting for the time when our paths cross, alas the downside of being a touring gentleman) She needs no introduction, and has already been mentioned in this thread, and that is none other than Victoria Jolie. Beautiful, sexy, and thinks outside the box in her marketing packages (for example her idea of a fishing/hunting package). Here is Victoria's Profile http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=17627 Some recommendations http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=V&t=6879 although the biggest recommendation comes from another lady I highly respect, who said I would like her And two pictures of her...the first one, well being the fisherman I am, you can see why I like this one. Until this picture, I never thought of hip waders as sexy, but Victoria makes it work And a second, more recent photo I'm just waiting for the day when our paths cross Victoria, I really do want to meet you. But until then, you'll be my CERB Goddess of the Day RG

There's actually been quite a bit of discussion about all kinds of activities on this site. You could use the search function to look them up. Whether it's a good idea or not to give uncovered oral service is not something that all of the ladies agree about. Some of us offer it and some of us don't. The risk of infection with any activity is something that we each need to consider for ourselves. I don't offer bareback anything. As I said, above, there's a syphilis epidemic in Vancouver and, as far as I'm concerned, that's a very good reason for me not to do this. I'm not worried about contracting HIV/AIDs from oral sex because the risk is negligible, at best: the HIV virus is very fragile and doesn't survive oral sex acts. I'm concerned about things like syphilis and gonorrhea because they often produce no symptoms and also because there is a strain of gonorrhea that's highly resistant to antibiotics. I'm seriously allergic to a wide range of antibiotics and so I'm very wary of coming in contact with anything that may require taking them. There are quite a few wonderful companions here who do offer uncovered oral sex and have been doing so for a long time without any serious difficulties. I respect their decisions about this. One good place to get information about STI risks is from the Health Nurse's website.

500 kms. on the motorbike today...including my first trip to Peggy's Cove. If felt damned good to play hooky.

I was hesitant to bring this up , bbbj and bbfs, mostly because I love bbbj, but I'm just wondering why so many are appalled at the idea of bbfs but there is little to no condemnation of bbbj, cim etc. I realize it is a very intimate act, I also realize there are many more risks with bbfs not to mention I personally do not want to perform daty on a lady after the previous client has done his business down there. All that said I appreciate that community is looking after each other with raising topics like this, but I am just a little (i'm not shocked by any stretch of the imagination) surprised at the response to this topic because there is very little conversation/concern around other "risky" behavior. I'm not saying that risky behavior it isn't discussed, but people seem very concerned about this issue.

BBFS is a no, no, no; and it makes me run as far as I can from those who dare to offer it. Fortunatly, here at CERB the ladies have enough ethics and common sense, and professionalism to stay away from that irresponsible practice. This business is not a russian roulette game, but the fun to be with somebody that share pleasure and fun in a safe environment.

I have to say, the level of cognitive dissonance here simply baffles me. Do these people really not understand the inherent contradiction between the assumption they're explicitly making and the request they've just made? I just don't get it. At all. On a different tangent, a question... I'm guessing it's tough to tell over the phone or email, but what sort of age are the people who are requesting BBFS? I'm just wondering, because there's a generation now coming of age who have never really known STIs as a life-shattering disaster; in particular, they missed the era in which an HIV diagnosis was a death sentence. And so I'm wondering if the increase may be a combination of the young, who have never really understood the severity of these things, and the older folks who never had anything much in the way of sex-ed in their youth and got themselves married off before STIs were really talked about much. Pure speculation, of course. A penny for your thoughts (for as long as they're legal tender :) )

In some ways I wish the courts would simply just force people to pay child support, as it would probably cut down on dead beats. A relative of mine went through a very messy divorce not too long ago and the ex basically tried every trick in the book to get out of paying child support and spousal support to the point where he was turning the kids against their own mother. The one kid was smart enough to catch on to this but the other not so much, so not only has it kind of put a wedge between their mother but it's also kind of put a wedge between the kids. To me this is just shameful and for what a few lousy bucks and the guy is definitely not hurting in that department. If it wasn't for her dad the guy would have probably gotten away with it too. I always try to own up to my mistakes, so I always figured that if I got a woman pregnant, sp or not, and she decided to keep the child that I would be responsible for it. At the same time though I don't worry about it, at least that wouldn't keep me from seeing a sp. Were smart enough to know to practice safe sex and are aware of most of the common forms of birth control so that worst case scenario, if there was a breakage, we'd know what to do. Even so I know that the only 100% effective route is abstinence, but lets just say I've been down that road and it's no fun.

This is extremely disturbing. Could it be the requester getting the idea from watching porn? I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone. Just wondering.

I agree with everything you've said although I thought this was always being requested of SPs, not just recently. Requests are on the rise?

Well, we've always known that fools exist. It saddens me to hear that there's more of them around than there used to be. Perhaps there are SPs around that are sufficiently desperate for cash that they'll do BBFS... but really, what price is your life worth? And on the off-chance that any of the guys who request BBFS are reading this... do you seriously think that you're the *only* person that the SP who allows BBFS has done that with? Even if you don't care about what she may get from you, have you stopped to consider the risk you're taking with your own well-being? I'm not sure what the odds on this gamble are, but the price of losing is... high. Very high. Are you prepared to pay it? Having said all that... I suspect this problem will eventually sort itself out. Just don't let the foolish take you down with them.

1/Leo....August 2/Virginity lost at 16.......she was drunk, a former girlfriend, and demanded it of me. 3/Grew up on a farm and still farm for a living......cattle, horses, dogs, cats. I am still profoundly content with a live birth. 4/Played hockey competitively until completing college and then decided to find the fun in it again and went rec league. 5/ Motorbike license in '83, first bike was a 750 Interceptor and now drive 1800 cc's of sport cruiser 6/ Loved fast cars.....had a Mustang and a Trans-Am 7/ I grew up being a voracious reader but now mostly read business material 8/ I got a dog, tractor(s), pickup (4 wheel drive, lol), and love country music......but I am not a redneck..although I do make moonshine 9/ started training for a private pilot license, but had to stop due to time constraints.......same with martial arts 10/ I am a very social person with compassion for others and a decidedly non-antagonistic demeanor......life is too short.

These two ladies have already been mentioned in this thread but I must mention them again because they are amazing women, Goddesses and have become wonderful friends of mine from afar.... A couple of east coast sweethearts.....they are good friends themselves....they both are beautiful women !! Intelligent, kind, caring, fun, awesome senses of humor, adventurous, of course gorgeous !! .....and frisky :D prrrrr prrrrr and prrrrrr One has seen Austin naked.....poor girl ...hope I didn't scar you for life ;) The other one most definately will SOON !! poor girl.... haha Katherine Penelope Davis This pic pops into my head whenever I hear the words "Nova Scotia" ;)

Kimberly-Shea Not only outstandingly beautiful but this lady has a calm sense of reason. She is quite adept at bringing forth her thoughts and perhaps changing opinions for the better. Not only that but she is smokin' hot! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=16906 My fave pic of this goddess...

The Goddess I would like to highlight today is an intelligent vibrant woman with a bubbly, fun, funny, witty, and adventureous personality. She is also a beauty, has curves .... yup curves !! .... dead sexy and likes to fool around I do believe ;) She has been an active member here for quite awhile now, active in both informative posts and many of the fun posts. I have spent lots of quality time with this sweetheart and she is an amazing woman !! Always a new adventure ! Currently on a hiatus from the bus but still pops by from time to time and I look forward to her return :D DORINDA BLOOM

Invictus Out of the night that covers me, Black as the Pit from pole to pole, ... I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade, And yet the menace of the years Finds, and shall find, me unafraid. It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll. I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. William Ernest Henley

hugs please? It's been a while since I felt like utter crap like I am feeling right now:( oh and the pain. Let's not talk about the pain

Canadians (North Americans) just don't hug enough. When I travel back to Iceland and see my friends and acquaintances hugs and kisses (male and female) are more common than handshakes. It was a little odd to me at first, but being a big huggy bear I adapted rather quickly and I love it! So...hugs to all of you. And a challenge; try hugging one person today rather than shake their hand. ;)

I know a lot of SP's end up becoming MA's because they think it's "less intense", i.e. they're trying to get away from having to provide certain levels of emotional connection anymore. I'm sure after a certain amount of time, some SP's may feel it's taking a toll on them, so they expect becoming MA's will be like their rehabilitation from SP work. They may think the MA code of conduct is strictly regulated by some sort of defacto standards, beyond which you cannot go. However, not all girls in massage started out as SP's. Some just started out as MA's right off the bat. These girls may tend to not look at MA work so strictly regimented. The emotional connection they may provide doesn't feel all that different from what an SP can provide. As other members have said, they may have taken their MA's out to dinner at times. These don't necessarily fall into a strict convention.