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So, there's a couple of related questions that come up occasionally. If you can't say anything negative on CERB, how do you know who to avoid? And if a SP has no recommendations, or only a few, or nothing recent, what does that mean? And does it mean she's no good? One thing to get out the way immediately: yes, the fact that you can't come out and say someone's no good (unless they're worth a post in the "scams and warnings" section, which is rare) is a limitation. However, the ethos of this board is that we accept that limitation in return for the generally more pleasant atmosphere that results, and consider the exchange worthwhile. There are other boards for those who wish to read the negative stuff, and there are plenty of folks who use them in tandem with this one. But, it must be said, trying to work out who to see - or whether or not to see someone you're considering - is kinda tricky. The point of this post is not to try and provide a solution, because there will be as many solutions as there are readers; the idea is simply to throw some thoughts out there, and hopefully to mention one or two things that the reader may not have considered. Bear in mind that there will also be one or two things (or more) that I haven't considered, so hopefully others will fill in the blanks... and also chip in if they disagree with what I've said. It is undoubtedly true that some ladies have MUCH larger reco threads than others. However, there are a great many reasons for this, and surprisingly few of them have anything to do with how good a time you'll have if you go and see the lady in question. First up: you have to actually LOOK at a reco thread to evaluate it. Some consist only of recos, but others have a lot of cruft. I'm talking about posts along the lines of, "Thanks for the reco!" "How do I contact her?" "Her website's at ..." "Is she still in the business". Officially, these should be pruned out; in practice, that tends not to happen. And that means you, dear reader, have to go and see for yourself how much of a reco thread is genuine recommendations and how much is extraneous fluff. Post-count alone doesn't tell you everything. Second: a great deal depends on how many clients a lady sees. Someone who sees several clients a day will probably have more recos than someone who sees a few clients per week. Someone who focuses on longer appointments will probably see fewer clients than someone who specializes in shorter ones. Third: people leave and re-join this business all the time. A lady who's been inactive for a while will have a blank period when she can't possibly have acquired recos. Fourth: traveling SPs may well have one reco thread in each city they visit, and those threads will necessarily look short compared to those for ladies who stay in one place. Fifth: SPs who are new to the industry tend to pick up reviews more quickly than those who have been around for a while. Sixth, and related to the above: most of us guys will write a reco once, when we first see someone and like her. We don't write another reco for the second visit, or the third. Maybe we'll write another one after several visits, but I think that's quite rare. This means that SPs who are acquiring new clients all the time will garner far more recos than those who rely on happy clients coming back for repeat visits. I suspect that some of the best SPs are almost invisible on the board, both because their clients won't write a reco for the fifty-third visit, and because they have so many repeats that they don't need to actually advertize for new clients. Seventh: a very few ladies are on the "Do Not Review" list, and there are others who prefer not to have reviews or recos written about them. Others ask us to limit what's written ("No gory details, please" is not uncommon) and this may discourage potential reviewers. Eighth: spinners tend to get more recos than BBWs. And yes, I know there's many other body types... but you see what I'm getting at, no? I don't actually know why this is, but I suspect some guys fear schoolyard-level judgement if they own up to liking bigger ladies. Ninth: younger SPs tend to get more recos than older ones. I suspect the reasons may be related to the previous point. Tenth: SPs seem to generally get more recos than MAs, and dancers hardly get any at all. I have no clue why this is. Eleventh: this is rare, but some reco threads have been deleted - ISTR this was something technical related to deleting posts from long-retired members. I can think of one SP who I've written a reco for but you'll never find it, because her old reco thread is gone. You'll have to make do with her new, shorter one. Twelfth: some ladies ask for recommendations during or after (or even before!) a meeting. Different guys may react to this in different ways; I don't actually know what net effect this has on the lady's reco thread. Okay, that's a dozen things, which is enough for now. Doubtless I've forgotten one or two (I'll probably think of another as soon as I post this). In the meantime... I hope that was at least somewhat helpful to those of you trying to navigate the maze of tantalizing options we have available, and I hope that it's given you something to consider when you come across a lady who tickles your fancy but seems not to have too many recommendations compared to some others.

Great thread, Phaedrus :) I wanted to address nlwoodchuck's post. I partially do agree with it, but I also wanted to add a different view. I think that it would actually benefit the lady to have a mixture of recommendations from both first time clients, and repeat clients. I do agree that it's beneficial for the reader to have an idea what it would be like to visit the lady for the first time, and what generally to expect. But, I also think that it would be good to have a sense of what it is like to be with the lady, after several visits too. Of course, anyone with common sense will know that everyone's experiences will vary (same as first time visits), but I think this kind of thing encourages repeat visits. Some lads get into the hobby thinking of the wonderful variety of women there is, and how awesome it is going to be to sleep with as many ladies as possible. Variety is indeed the spice of life, and I agree with this mantra myself, too. However, with this view only, it may be possible to neglect to consider how great the sessions can become with someone after you get to know each other. The comfort that comes with familiarity, learning what each other really likes, and letting your guards down. This comfort can lead to a wonderful intimacy, that simply often is not felt on first time visits. I love to meet new people, but I have many regular clients who I truly look forward to seeing. I have a sense of comfort in having met them before, knowing what to expect, and knowing how best to please them ;)

I personally don't have a preference for circumcised versus uncircumcised, provided that it has been properly cared for (ie. pulling back the foreskin when cleaning).

Great post and excellent summary, Phaedrus! I just want to add a few points ;) Some gentlemen will write a reco once but a good majority never do even if they had a fantastic time- makes for a shorter reco thread. On the other hand, some gentlemen will write a reco for the same ladies every time they see them- makes for a longer reco thread. You also have to remember that it's a big world out there and that clients come from everywhere and not necessarily all from review boards; not everyone knows or cares about review boards and reviews/recos therefore there is no feedback from them either. Also, advertising regularly doesn't really reflect on the repeat client base a lady has; I am very, very happy with mine but will still advertise on a regular basis because I never know who might contact me... It could very well be a new fantastic gentleman who may (or may not) become another amazing regular client with different interests then the other gentlemen I already see. I guess the saying "variety is the spice of life" also applies to the ladies :)

As long as your willy is clean it doesn't matter how he dresses for the party!

Thanks to Emily for her additional insight into my post. I value her perspective. I'm never too good to be told and I think that Emily has indeed given me some food for thought. I have pondered on her points and have come to a realization after a wonderful trip down memory lane (not that I needed Emily to twist my arm to take that trip). Most of my first encounters with companions were indeed amazing but in my case all of my "all time best" visits with companions were actually repeat visits. As pointed out YMMV always does play part in every encounter but common sense is not a common as we would hope. I guess seeing multiple reco's from the same client could convey the notion that, "god she must be great if that guy kept going back to see her so often". So given my new enlightened perspective I'll have to update some of my original reco's with a sneek peak behind how great it can become when you build that connection with a lady and visit with her numerous times. Emily, if I get labeled a shill I'm coming looking for you and not for the typical sensual reasons :)

On this question, I don't seem to be any different than most here, as I consider cuddling and kissing to be very important in a GFE encounter. It adds so much to the experience that I just wouldn't book anyone that I knew that didn't offer it. The ones that don't have their good reasons and I respect that, but for me it's nothing short of a deal-breaker to not be able to feel the closeness, body heat, and intimacy these activities offer (although of necessity within time and other limits). I always cherish those make-out moments among the most. And so far I've not fallen deeply yet, as I know to separate the worlds. FR

My baby boy beagle is getting older and he occasionally has bad days with arthritis. He's a retired hunting beagle and is a bit of a legend around these parts. Everybody says that, in his day, he could run like the wind. But the years of limited exercise all year round, followed by a few days a year of balls out running, coupled with sleeping in the kennels year round, when it was hot, wet or -30, have left him with some problems. This week, he's having a bad week. And I'm having to carry him up and down the stairs to go outside. So last night, I'm here on my own, with him, the two labs and the ugly pugly, and he's got to go out. We have our family room and bedroom combined into one on the second floor. I grab him up, and he's pretty tender, so I'm trying to be careful. I get to the top of the stairs and tell the other dogs to go down. Nope. They're not going down until they see me start to go down. Then it's like The Three Stooges, with everyone trying to go at once. I nearly got knocked off my feet. I had to let go of the dog in my arms with one hand to grab the railing, which meant I had to squeeze him tighter with the other, which set him screaming. I wrenched my back in the process. I get him downstairs and put him out, my back killing me. He runs right out to the bottom of the yard and loses himself amongst the tomato containers, where we play hide and seek for ten minutes, treating the mosquitoes to a feast. And then I have to carry him back up. Still, he's got me worried. Usually he has a bad day or two and snaps out of it. He's been having problems since Tuesday, though. All you can do is love them while you can!

Thanks Phaedrus for your detailed post in the newbie section. You've covered a lot but I just wanted to point out something from my own personal experience. I visited with a lady and after that "first" visit I was very impressed with my experience so I wrote that lady a recommendation. Because I had such a great first experience I visited with that lady again shortly after. My "second" visit was VERY different from my first and quite frankly blew my mind. The intensity and passion during that encounter was so far off the charts that it literally left my head spinning. I did not write a second recommendation even though my second visit was far better than the first. Now I could have written a recommendation however I'm not sure that additional recommendations from repeat clients will have a value to a Newbie or first time visitor to that lady. Additionally, I'm afraid that I might actually be doing her a disservice without realizing it. I think that if someone is looking for a lady for a first time visit then reading other first time recommendations might be more appropriate in helping to understand what to expect as a first time client. As I'm sure that everyone can appreciate there is a relationship and ease that develops between a companion and a client over multiple visits and a chemistry that is unlikely to be found on a first visit. That's only natural. I'm not sure that it would be fair as a repeat client to post a recommendation that might lead a first time client to unrealistically expect that my encounter will be his encounter. For better of worse that's just my perspective on how I approach it.

But cunning enemy, he keep hand in pocket, and he feel cocky all day!

I'm a newbie, but I think both nights would be a blast!:) I'd definitely come to town to participate!!

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What she said!

Wow...King of Queens is my number one all time sitcom followed by.....are u ready? Everyone Loves Raymond Seinfeld Family Guy Frasier Cosby show I could go on and on forever! Love channels like Dejavu etc that show old comedy series.

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I second that.. I like cocks of many varieties, provided hygiene is in order ;) its horrible to have to say, but not everyone takes care of theirs so well, and thats not something I should have to explain in the moment I was about to give you oral ecstasy lol

I'm not trying to start a debate about fees. I've been doing this longer than most and am well versed in the "pay to play" philosophy. When it comes to guys simply looking for an R&T the reason most guys don't see SP's is more about the cost. Most of the local SP's will charge a guy $100 -120 for even a half hour of massage with a happy ending (HJ or BJ) and more for an hour. The "relaxation" massage places are usually in the $45 - 60 per hour and another $20 for the tip. Thus you can get a nice relaxing 1 hour massage and a HJ for $70 - 80. When I was actively pooning I spent a generous sum and saw my share of ladies for FS and think most would have nice things to say about me. But there were those times when I needed a kink worked out of my back and just felt like a little stress release as well. For those occasions the R&T providers fit the bill. Cheers

Meaghanmcleod suggests asking the ladies permission before posting a reco. I have been guilty of not doing this in the past and never really thought about asking permission. I will certainly take that under advisement for the future.

Thank you Phaedrus - great points, and well articulated. I personally do not encourage reco's of myself. When I first started here, I was not aware that I could request they edit out details. I think that if you are planning on writing a reco, please run it by the provider first before posting. However, I do understand the merits of reco's, so for those gentlemen that give "tasteful" reco's, thank you. For those that seem to think that giving all the details of the encounter, minute by minute, is in my opinion, distasteful. Lets keep reco's respectful please.

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An MA and a RMT should not be confused. No sex with the RMT bottom line, this keeps coming up every so often.

Happy belated Birthday Mister C, hope you enjoyed your day!

I had a session with Sarah a while ago. It wasn't my first, but certainly will be my last. The young lady has a lot of potential. She is intelligent, inquisitive and not hard on the eyes. Perhaps it's just me, but she reeks of "not wanting to be there.." That is until the end, when she has both hands out waiting for her tip. Answering telephone while in-session, checking and reading messages on cell-phone while massaging, limp repetitive unsatisfying forearm massage - are some of the problems. I wish this was an isolated incident - but from a paying customer's perspective it felt highly disrepectful. Until someone can report differently, All I can caution is to stay away when Sarah is on-duty.

Isabella Gia is a located in Hull http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=30000

Ah yessssss enemies.... the Chinese also say "For he who might be your enemy it be best to help him out and push him through airport turnstile sideways and then he going to Bang kok" ......

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Happy birthday!

I always tip the delivery guy. I delivered pizzas back in high school for a while. I delivered one to the then premiere of NS (John Buchanan) and received no tip. WTF? Couldn't believe it. Next delivery was to a lower cost housing area and got a great tip. Guess who got better service after that?

Happy Birthday Mister C Enjoy your special day RG

That Lee needs to learn how to drink more than one beer.

Congrats to you, Meaghan!!! Well done on your 1k posting, continue on, look forward to reading much more from you :)

Have any of you tried Google? lol Perhaps even www.tineye.com? I did a quick search on tineye... The latest ad for the Metro's 24/7 agency advertising "Nicole" didn't come back with any hits BUT the second to latest ad for "Kaylee" did. 3 to be exact. The pictures belong to a lady from Montreal named Megane (she's had her profile and pics up for 48 weeks on NR). I am positive if you look around some more, you will find the answers you are looking for ;)

I sometimes find that the Shout Out Box is handy to know that someone has posted something new to their blog or that they have posted new pics in an album. For example, I noticed Emily J did that yesterday and it lead me to some great pics on her blog site. :)

Have a merry one, Mister C!

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I fully endorse everything Tiff wrote. There is an instant intimacy created by kissing. IMHO this adds greatly to any encounter. Of course, good oral hygiene is a must. There is nothing worse than kissing someone with bad breath. But, soft lips, sweet breath and an inviting, playful mouth are always welcome.

Heading to PEI on a motorbike trip with about 8 other bikes on Friday. I'm usually lone wolf, but occasionally the company is welcomed.

What's happening in the shout box right now! hehe Old days are back!

Golf has taken over all of my hobby time, even in the winter. When it is too cold and snowy to play, I practice in my living room.

I think there is a difference between posting a honest review and bashing on people!? Im not against the others review board as long as they are respectful. I dont think that the OP or nobody here is trying to say that the other board are bad! I understand it is a useful tool for a lot of hobbyiest... I believe this is what the initial post was refering to.... To dont forget we are human after all!

The original poster "winnipegguy" has 43 posts all of which pretty credible so I don't know if this is a work of fiction or just an embellishment or whatever. But this ness massage place started out as a massage with HE place, that is clear, so asking for one there is fair game I think. :) P.S. I"ve never been there, neither do I plan on it....they are just too inconsistent for me. :)

have you ever booked an SP before Son? Why would you send a money transfer or any transfer to someone who you have never read any reviews on..There are so many beautiful ladies on here which prob take you years to go through all and proper reviews as well wink wink

I am not in Ottawa, but I can tell you from someone who's had a golden shower fetish since she was very young... that most people don't admit it freely. It could be a self confidence thing, it could just be that, as you said, it's very "taboo". I spent the better part of my life hiding my desire for it, as I thought it was "wrong". Society has a tendancy to make us believe that anything outside THEIR realm of "normal" is wrong. For me? We live once. So experience experience experience !!! Giving AND receiving are both wonderful. Even giving to YOURSELF can be a very erotic experience. Feel free to PM me sometime :)

I told the boys at Fat Bastards we have to market ourselves better... not on a single list!!!! Did we mention that we are running a lite beer special??? You get all the BFE you want which normally would cost you a regular beer, but we will actually take a lite beer and let you have the can for return!!! We may even offer a bacon sammich special which means that you GET a bacon sammich, BFE and cuddle time for the price of a regular BFE experience. Now, watch boys... here come the lists.... OHHHHH yeah.

I am so happy beautiful Berlin is discussing this issue! I wish some of you knew this: The female body it is made for multiple orgasmic experiences thus if you care to make us come and have an eletric session with you. All you have to do is ask us: How do you prefer? Where and how can i pleasure your body, breasts, thights? How can i perform date on you, to arouse you? We are in the age of the Godess, thus most sexually confident female knows what she likes and dislikes in bed. Some of you even get mad at me when i try to give you tips on my sexual likes and dislikes. And some of you are all about been generous and sensual according to my personal sexual preferences in order to make the best of our encounter and the result it is hot sex mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Some guy even told me it is "natural to penetrate a lady hard". I would say the word natural it is a dangerous word to use in sexuality and aesthetics. It is natural to allow gas to flow freely, should i fart on your face during sex because it is natural? No right? I prefer gentle and slow sex, but once i am more warm up i will ask for more action. I think desire and lust should lead in bed, not the strength of your male hips. I would prefer that you touch my arms, my legs and my back and my waist and my back before you touch any sexual part of my body, and please be gentle and please warm up your hands before touching us. The beauty is: Some of you already aim to please, but you are rare and you know who you are;). When you penetrate us hard without any care to increase our pleasure we just want to make you come asap, because it hurts.