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Hi, just wanted to know what SP's or MA's mean by saying that they are open minded in their ad's. Is this a code word for maybe getting extra's? What do you hobbyist expect when you see the words "open minded" in a MA or SP's ad? Just wanted your opinion or any of your experiences where you have met a "open minded" woman.

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Rest assured, gentlemen, that most of us rarely ride around in stretch limousines and when we do, they're far more likely to have been provided by clients than to be hired by us. It would be highly unprofessional to arrive at a private residence in a stretch limo: it would compromise the client's privacy. Those cars attract a great deal of attention. Moreover, no driver who is experienced in working with us would park such a thing outside the client's home. Safety, discretion and absolute confidentiality are non-negotiable in our line of work.

I pretty much only receive at my place, and never had to worry about anything. It should not be more difficult, nor more worrysome, than going to visit on an incall if you discuss it with a reputable lady. In these cases, nosy neignbors or not, it just looks like someone is visiting you.

Being a hobbyist who almost exclusively opts for outcalls, I see no problem with it. As long as you stick to reputable and recommended ladies, you should have no issues. If you're a bit apprehensive, I'd suggest you book an upscale hotel room for your first appointment with them. That way, you can meet someone new on a neutral turf before inviting them to your residence. I did that for many years, with much success.

I have always thought that "open minded" meant non-judgmental. So, you could be open in asking about something a little off the conventional, "vanilla" sexual map. It didn't guarantee she'd say yes, but it does mean she wouldn't give you a hard time about the request. Lots of guys have quirks and fetishes and offbeat interests they might be yearning to pursue but nervous to ask about. To me, open-minded means "don't be afraid to ask". I *don't* think open-minded means "willing to renegotiate my stated boundaries", or secretly open to doing something unsafe.

Here is another thread on this for extra value... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142785 As has been said, the best way to know what it specifically means to a provider is to ask. In general terms, to me (YMMV) open minded means that you are open to different aspects of sensuality and sexuality AND you are also open to discussing non mentioned aspects in a respectable non-judgmental way. Your discussions are safe and could potentially lead to more based on the specific SP.

This is key advice when looking for a compatible playmate! Of the above recommended ladies you have a wide variety. Besides services offered you have a full spectrum between Lola (petite, dark haired and leans to the submissive side of things) while Zoe (tall - almost Amazonian!, amazing curly blonde hair, augmented bust and some very fun piercings). Both great great girls! That said for a first timer I'd chose the newly back on the scene Anna Sweets! Beautiful, all natural curvy with a passion that is intoxicating.

In my experience "open-minded" just like "GFE" means nothing. In this business many ladies will just use the "phrase of the day" in their ad's to catch a potential clients attention. NEVER make any assumptions in this business about what anything written in ad's mean. Always, communicate directly with the lady and express what you desire from your encounter and confirm that what you desire is what she provides and is comfortable with. If you choose to just take ad's at face value you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. Just as an example, a while ago I visited with a lady, last minute, "spur of the moment" and she advertised as both "GFE and open-minded". When I go there she confirmed after we entered the room that, there was no kissing, no anal play, and the service was completely safe. I could live with that so we continued. It was a completely mechanical, detached, zero eye contact session. In fact she even seemed a little put out that I lasted so long and said, "can you just cum already". LOL. Now I know for a fact that I am a fantastic client with a YMMV factor that is very high but in this case although she advertised as both open-minded and GFE I would classify my mileage factor as very low. Perhaps she was just having a bad day who knows. However, I learned that I'll never do "last minute" spur of the moment again. I'll always want to have ample opportunity to chat with the lady and convey to her what I like to experience in my sessions and have her explicitly confirm that she also enjoys all the same things from a session as I do. Communicate, communicate, communicate! FYI, you might be able to tell but I haven't had my morning coffee yet and I'm still a little short on the trigger.

Some SP's may have a specific menu or routine and don't deviate from that, where as open minded is just that, they're open to discussing something you might want? It is going to be different for each provider. Best way is to ask her!

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YAYYY!! :) I LOVE MJ! Huge fan here. :biggrin: My pops introduced him to me when I was very young, and I have been a fan ever since. I always remember him raving about how MJ was "the best dancer in the world" - lol. :) When I was just old enough, we rented a "laser disc" of the Thriller music video from the Ottawa Public Library, and I thought it was the coolest thing in existence. The first album I listened to was a copied cassette tape of . I think I listened to it a thousand times. Then a few years later I got a CD of "Thriller" and that was just as awesome. It's pretty impossible for me to choose a favourite song... and it's changed a dozen times over the years, but I think right now it's a toss up between and I still listen to his music all the time, but it's been years since I watched the music videos... I am loving rewatching them now! :) Thanks for posting Cleo! :) RIP The King of Pop!!

I have to say you are mistaken my dear. If you have a lady in the mood, size does not matter - at least in my case. I have had very, very enjoyable anal sex with cocks of all sizes - including some of the largest ones I've encountered. In fact, I once suggested anal to a very large man a while back - to see if I could do it. And FUCK YES I did, and ohhhh the orgasms :D However, if you walk into a session, pull an arm out of your pants, and expect to be able to stick it into my ass with no foreplay, then forget it. But once the juices are flowing... size is irrelevant.

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Many ladies offer incalls out of their homes, and follow safety protocols, so I don't see why they shouldn't do this. I know some women who have happily been doing it for years. As for gentlemen inviting SPs to their home, I have been trusted to do so on many occasions. There have been multiple circumstances: sometimes it's with a gentlemen I have met previously at my incall, so he's built up the trust; sometimes it's with a new client, but we've emailed back and forth significantly, so he's built up the comfort level; and, I've even been invited to someone's home for our very first meeting after our first communication. I delete the address information as soon as I'm gone, so even if I'm invited back, I need the info again. I don't keep my clients personal information (unless I'm asked to, which has happened). And I do of course have a safety call who knows where I am, and when I should leave. Now, I once was invited to a man's home during our first text conversation. He wanted me to go to his home, in the outskirts of Ottawa, for a home-cooked meal. I denied this request. Going to a secluded area, for a meal cooked by a man I'd never met = RED FLAGS. I told him I was happy to join him for dinner if he came to me, and we went to a restaurant. He declined. Which made me feel happy I had said no. When you've been in the business a while, and I'm also assuming when you've been a hobbiest for a while, your gut does a fairly good job of telling you when you should say yes, or when you should say no. Mine hasn't led me astray yet!

I am not going to choose one particular oon or even a couple........ Each lady writes what she thinks she likes and puts herself out there with every word. Posted via Mobile Device

Although I normally have outcalls to my hotels, I see reputable ladies. Ladies I have no issue being seen in public with (whether they want to be seen with me, well that's another story ;-) LOL) Long story short, except for logistics of it...I live in smalltown Ontario, I would have no issues trust and discretion wise having a lady to my place My trust level with the ladies I see now so high should, hypothetically speaking I need someone to hold my wallet (cw credit card & cash) I trust the ladies implicitly A evening rambling RG

Being an outcall only hobbyist for 5 years I would say it is wise if you do your research and you are selective who you are inviting. This is the only legal way to have a paid date (unless you wish to pay $150 for a hotel on the top of donation). No major issues so far. Only on one occasion I was stalked but that was a dancer. Remember you are having total strangers in the privacy of your home where you live and not everybody engaged in this industry is safe. So be very selective and ask lots of questions before inviting. It also depends on the environment that you live. My building is quiet and people with class who mind their own business. They have seen me plenty of times with different visiting guests and either assumed they are my GFs or mind their own business. Not same for all especially those living in noisy neighborhoods or have nosy neighbors, In addition, since outcalls are legal both sides are safer in my view since in case of any wrongdoing, like robbery, pimp harassment (well try not to call anyone with pimp), assault.... either side can call the police. Which brings me to another legal discussion that decriminalization (of bawdy houses, guards and drivers) makes the hobby safer for everyone but that is another topic and I don't wish to hijack the thread.

I have done outcalls in the past and will continue to do them just as long as I get proper verification. I also check in with someone before and after while I'm on an outcall. As long as you know the SP is reputable and discrete in her behaviour and how she dresses, you should be fine. When I first started out with an agency, I would get the driver to drop me off a few houses down so no one would see a car pulling up. I also dressed tastefully so I wouldn't draw any attention to myself.

So I took one for the team... 24/7 agency? I was assured prior to the appointment by a man on the phone that it would not be a bait and switch situation after I warned him I would leave if it was. Well it was a bait and switch but whats worse is this girl was obviously not in a good place. She tried to make small talk and stuff and it was just really bad. I could tell she was struggling with addiction. She had that emptiness about her. The apartment was filled with smoke. There was weed out on the table. It was a truly Disgusting scene. I turned and left. Makes me sick how people can be exploited this way. 24/7 agency = very bad. Stay away.

Well gentlemen, I had the pleasure of meeting Katherine for the first time at her luxurious suite during her recent visit to Saint John, and I assure you, it was the beginning of a long term association with this beautiful, exciting, and classy lady. She made me feel comfortable right from the start as she greeted me with a lingering kiss from those soft, luscious lips, then changed from attractive Capri's into a super sexy, yet tasteful black dress with matching nylons. Your imaginations, and your libidos, can take it from there. I spent several hours with Cathy and was treated to stimulating ,intelligent conversation in her beautiful surroundings, to an incredibly relaxing massage (she brings her own table, and she is licenced), to lingering slow sensuality, and to unbridled passion like you will not believe. Her skin is satin, her figure terrific, and her body soft yet firm, reponsive to your touch and to your every impulse. She loves to kiss and she finishes just as strong. Gents, you really need to see this special lady. Remember to treat her well, as she deserves nothing less.

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Yep, I'm big on keeping that whole area as clean and smooth as possible. My advice: - soak the region well with soap and water during a nice, long shower beforehand - then apply plenty of shaving gel/foam to the "work area", and let it sit there for a few minutes so everything gets nicely moistened and lubricated. It, uh, doesn't hurt to manipulate the whole area and gently rub the foam against the skin to, uh, you know, help the process along. Ahem. - Then use a good, sharp razor for the shaving part. This ensures you don't end up tugging and tearing the coarse hair and stressing your follicles. I hardly need to say: don't rush. Be thorough, and enjoy the process and exploring one of your favourite landscapes up close. - Rinse and then apply moisturizer afterward (for as long and, uh, vigorously as you "need" to...) to the whole shaved area to soothe any stressed skin. That's my routine and it's never given me any problems. If I skip steps (other than the fun ones), I end up with a rash, soreness, or worse. :/

Those are great places if a "Massage" (not FS) is what you want. This is posted in the FS section though. Lots of recos here for all the blondes, brunetes, redheads, spinners, curvy and bbws...your preference is likely represented right here on CERB

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And again, I'm bringing up the rear on emiafish....now what a visual THAT is!! Pardon me while I contemplate it for a moment.... Okay, subject at hand. "You make me laugh, you make me cry, you make me cream whilst I do sigh "please give me what I need so bad, I'm tired of this distance...so sad" Plus I like those who recognize good taste in filthy pictures although you have never once commented on my blog! tee hee

I trim instead of shave, and I've never had an issue.

Indeed, I could not have said it better... but I would not go as far as saying the climax is secondary though, the glide back down to earth WITH the hugs and cuddling is the total package.. my 2c..

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I'm glad to see that Kissing and cuddling is important to many of the people here. It add's to the true GFE session. Nothing better to end the session just kissing and cuddling and holding each other. It's just something that some of us need to comfort us and make us happy. I've been very lucky and have met many woman who like to kiss and cuddle. I would find it very unsatisfying to have FS with no kissing :(. But I've been lucky so far :) and have had many great experiences, and each new experience seems to be better then the last :)

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Come get a relaxing massage by a hot little vixen, I'll make sure you never forget, come get touched by an Angel! About me- Sexy petite 21year old with long red hair, sparkling green eyes! Out going, bubbly and ready to rock your world!! Providing- Flirty and dirty relaxation massage Soapy sexy showers Reverse massages Body slides- Duo massages(4 hands, 2girls) Hotub sessions & you'll leave happy. Schedule TODAY: 3:30-11 Rates- Single Massage 30mins: $55 45mins: $65 60mins: $80 Hot Tub Sessions 30mins: $70 45mins: $85 60mins: $100 Duo Massage rates also available upon request Location- West end-Bellscorners, Clean & cozy Contact-To book an appointment please send me a PM or text me @ 613-413-0733

This may have been posted already but I couldn't find it with a quick search. In any case, it is an episode I had missed. Penn and Teller use their usual low-key facetious approach but I found that they hit a lot of important points. I thought some of you might enjoy listening to it. http://youtu.be/ehpdidDnTMk

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The ass is my favourite body part and I find all forms of anal play a huge turn on....rubbing, kissing, licking, squeezing, spanking, etc., both giving and receiving. I don't consider anal sex or anal play taboo but I think one reason I like it so much is the fact that I don't get to experience it very often. Unfortunately most of the ladies I've been with in my personal life haven't felt the same way so it is a rare pleasure for me. Hopefully I'll be able to experience this on occasion in this hobby.

Well, you've got the link for the next social already. One other thing: Quite a few ladies have a social rate for this kind of thing (although it may be more aimed at going out than staying in), and if someone you'd like to see doesn't have a published social rate, you can always ask her if she does. If you're looking to hang out off the clock... if she asks to hang out with you, then that's great, and you'll probably have an awesome time. But if you ask her, then bear in mind that in her eyes you've probably just become yet another cheap-ass guy looking for free stuff, and she's probably got enough of those already. Once you get to know someone well it may be different, and close relationships do arise between SPs and clients... but if you try and force it then it almost certainly won't happen. I hate to be a downer on this, but it's probably wise to set your expectations realistically.

I think the short answer is more online privacy for the members in question. Some are just lurkers, will never post on Cerb and want to remain totally anonymous without revealing any personal details about themselves. Not even a location. On the other hand, some members post without having a location included in their profile but their post history is sometimes a good indication of where they are from... It just means that you have to look around a little to satisfy your curiosity ;) Regarding the comment meant about the visits to your profile and interest- you (and I am talking in general here) have to remember that there are a multitude of reasons why members decide to visit another's profile and one cannot directly correlate clicks on a profile to interest in the lady or her services. I would personally never add a city to my travel destinations based on that factor.

You said shenanigans and high jinks!! I can just imagine the trouble you would get into with an adventurous woman. Emiafish, you make me smile and I very much enjoy you...just not in the ways I sometimes entertain in my head in the dark of night *drat*

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On this question, I don't seem to be any different than most here, as I consider cuddling and kissing to be very important in a GFE encounter. It adds so much to the experience that I just wouldn't book anyone that I knew that didn't offer it. The ones that don't have their good reasons and I respect that, but for me it's nothing short of a deal-breaker to not be able to feel the closeness, body heat, and intimacy these activities offer (although of necessity within time and other limits). I always cherish those make-out moments among the most. And so far I've not fallen deeply yet, as I know to separate the worlds. FR

Jesus, I'm getting a chubby just reading this...

Everyone has their own approach to this. I will add one aspect which has worked extremely well for me. PLANNING - I know it doesn't work for everyone but the encounters I've been able to plan well ahead of time are generally better. It allows for any technical glitches or absences so that we have time to initially connect. It presents an opportunity to have some exchange in advance on all business aspects. I can provide a little more about me and learn more about the lady to better know if we might click. It gives us (ME) time to anticipate and get excited over days prior to our meeting. If you can plan ahead a little - my sense is the odds are with you that things will work out well. Cub

A VERY LARGE portion of the internet is comment/discussion forum based this days. (Facebook even has comment threads and posts)... Unless these are NEW computer users I can't imagine the idea of posts and threads being so foreign... but if you just take some time to read and explore the site it's not all that complicated. Just take some time and explore, if you get stuck as in here and the other members and I will help if we can.

There is a long and complicated thing I could go through but let's keep it simple. Shit happens. My best "old guy" advice is to file the episode under Future Funny Bar Stories. Move on. If you focus on it it will happen again. That being said, if you are otherwise in good health and this becomes a regular thing, take yourself off to see the good doctor.