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And any lady should be thankful and grateful that the client enjoyed her so much that he went back for more even though she didn't receive a recommendation from him. Repeat business and regular clients are priceless! Hummmm, from reading this thread and the other one you started today, why do I have a feeling that, even though your general intentions seem to be good, that you are directly expressing someone else's personal frustration about not receiving as many recos as she would like and because she is experiencing a lot of no-shows? Anyway, back on topic... I believe it's a good thing that ladies are not allowed to solicit recommendations, even from a repeat clients: first, it puts the client in an awkward situation (he may or may not want to repeat after that) and plain and simple, it is tacky. If the client wants to write a reco, I am positive he will *without being asked. For newbies reading this thread, please know that not every lady feels that way and you should never feel like you HAVE to write a recommendation. Most will appreciate your repeat business over a recommendation any time. You call some hobbyists "lazy-ass dudes" because they do not write recos for some deserving ladies? Really? lol Everyone has their own reasons for writing/not writing recommendations and it's no one's place to judge if their reasons are valid or not. Sure, it would be great if many more recommendations were written for the ladies but the fact is that a large majority do not write them and never will. Mandatory recommendations after a few visits if you're a Cerb member? I can't even start to tell you how wrong that would be for all kinds of reasons. And as far as tips are concerned, it has been said before, over and over: tips are always appreciated but never expected and no one should ever feel pressured to leave one.

Perhaps I missed the Cerb memo where the ladies needed someone to come to their rescue & you were elected saviour of the downtrodden, but dude, enough already. Because personally, as a smart articulate woman who can fully advocate for herself, I find your attitude & posts incredibly patronizing. That said, I have a whole other issue to address. This entire post makes me uncomfortable for reasons that have nothing to do with it's tone. Firstly, it reeks of a fishing expedition on how to run an agency & I feel reads like an SP or Agency/Spa discussing an Escort Industry problem. Because why does a photographer need to know the ins & outs of how to reduce the number of no shows? Again, why is this so important to you? Respectfully, if you ask questions here, you will get answers. Whether or not you like them is immaterial. This is a public forum with strong opinions from intelligent people. No one is trying to be mean, they are simply being honest & sharing their thoughts. If you have something informative, why not post it here if it is so awesome? But just because folks disagree with you does not mean that anyone is twisting stories, taking things out of context or that your posts are considered useless. I find them incredibly useful for my main bone of contention: your lack of discretion in implying that professional secert keepers are sharing info with you, followed by YOU cryptically sharing it here. I have 2 photographers that are also friends. They know my real name, address, phone number & personal details of my life. If I were to read a post such as this from either of them, I would be beyond incensed. And they would no longer be trusted. They would, however, be in every SP only area in which I participate as a warning to other ladies not to engage their services. You may wish to consider this when you read again how you have spoken out of school in reference to your clients. And since you feel that the reco is of such paramount importance that it MUST be written, know this, also, please: by alluding to the fact that SPs are talking to you, complaining, whatever, you are, without proof, quietly & perhaps irrevocably, casting aspersions as to the character & discretion of ladies you have seen. This alone may cost them more in terms of clients, money & reputation than any reco or lack thereof. In my mind, a sincere apology is rarely followed by a comment like this. The fact of the matter is: you got a lot of answers. Also a fact: you just don't like any of them. Fact: not a Cerb problem. Also fact: seems it's only yours. Sandi Sorry I posted in the wrong thread. I reposted in the correct one but will also leave this here. It applies to both, I feel. Thanks. S

Dude. You've got a remarkable talent for delivering an apology in a way that says "what a shame it is that everyone but me sucks".

Just wondering where your recommendations are that you have written? Your lines make you sound like a pimp and not a professional photographer, I shoot with one of the best and at NO time has he EVER asked about my business or reviews, that is just wrong. Your job is too shoot photos not start gossip about some girls whining. Tips and reccos are not expected, however they are appreciated when one does not feel guilted into doing either. Just because people don't wrote anything does not mean they had a good or a bad time, it is their preference not to write anything. Stop judging others until you can judge yourself.

There's much more to an encounter than an orgasm. Take time to have conversation over drinks. Spend time getting to know one another. Then go to the bedroom. Being intimate with a lady, and just my opinion, is much more enjoyable with someone you spent time getting to know a little. After sex, and you orgasm, continue to lie in bed with the lady, kiss, cuddle, conversation. Ladies are much more than providers of sex, they are providers of companionship. And companionship is special My two cents RG

The total membership of my "take 'em to the bank" regulars do not write recos. Ever. I have few recos in over 5 years, I advertise rarely and yet I exist comfortably and with total satisfaction in my business. Reco's are not the be all to end all. They don't add to my business, if anything they discourage the kind of client I like to attract at this point. So really, having lots of recos depends on the provider and the kind of business she's trying to establish. I understand the OP's intention as well meaning but we are all different in our goals and objectives and a guests never has to kiss and tell... cat

We do not have the ability to delete comments from our threads. Don't feel sorry for my mother. She is not to be pitied. I pointed her out as an example that not everyone finds it easy to write things. An inability to write IS an excuse. I think you need to accept that not everyone thinks it's so easy to write something. You don't know everything. Neither do I. So please, stop telling other people what to do. No one likes that - I think the comments in that thread are making that quite clear. You're not doing anything to help these girls right now. Some of my regulars have never written a review for me - and if I'd found out someone gave them shit for that, I would be mortified. Something your SP tells you in private should have been kept in private, not turned into a lecture to other members of this site.

I spent an hour this morning with a wonderful new friend. But we didn't get off on such a good foot. Shortly before he was due to arrive, I noticed a man wandering up and down the road. ?? I live on a little dead end road with only three homes on it. When I see someone wandering around on the street, I look out my window and wonder, who's that? What's he doing? I'm pretty sure my neighbours do too! But if I see someone park in front of one of my neighbours' homes, I don't wonder at all. Obviously the person is visiting my neighbour. Nothing wrong with that, and none of my business. When he came to the door, I asked him what he was doing, and where was his car? Oh, he parked it elsewhere and decided to walk up. "To be discreet." Groan!! Actually, where I live, that probably pretty much ensured anything but! When I do encounter my neighbours, one topic of discussion often comes up: did you see those people down by the path to the river? I wonder who they were." "There was some woman out walking around. I thought she was a Jehovah's Witness, but she didn't come to my door. Did you see her?" Nobody ever says, "hey, who was that guy who came to your house yesterday?" That would be nosy and inappropriate. They only seem to notice and talk about the ones wandering around on foot. Because it's unusual to see non-locals walking around out here. Everybody notices. Guys, we want to be as discreet as much as you do. And we know our neighbourhoods. And our neighbours. That's why we sometimes give you very precise instructions for where to park and what to do when you arrive. Please follow our instructions. (And, of course, the same advice goes to SPs when visiting a client's address.) Thank you!

No one has said they're not important or needed. What most of us are saying is that not everyone wants to write them. And although you think it's 'legit' to disagree with my statement that not everyone is comfortable writing, I will flat out say this: YOU ARE WRONG. Not everyone is comfortable writing. In addition to my mother, two of my siblings have learning disabilities and do not like having to write things. Now that does NOT mean they should be pitied, or that it's 'no excuse' not to write things. You need to be more understanding. Not everyone is comfortable writing things. Why is that so hard to understand? Also: your statement "Their handicap or inability to write something is no excuse. As mentioned below, there's help in that area for whatever problem they have." is both insensitive, uneducated, and well, just plan mean. I'm glad you find it so easy to write things, but not everyone does. And I wouldnt' want them to have to find help somewhere just in order to write an escort recommendation. Rather than listen to anyone saying that not everyone wants to/not everyone CAN write a rec, you're instead saying 'sorry guys, wanted to help, but they're not listening to me!'. You don't seem to be listening to the responses. People have responded in many ways, explaining why they do or do not post, and girls have responded as well. Not everyone agrees that every client should write a rec: why is that so hard to accept?

Another thing to keep in mind: some people aren't comfortable writing in any venue. It may be a language barrier, could be dyslexia, could be a fear of writing, could be many different things. My mother gets so nervous even typing a simple email it can take her hours to do so. Does that mean she shouldn't be a member of any online forums? Just because someone doesn't want to sit down and write about their encounter does not mean they didn't enjoy it, it does NOT mean they need a kick in the ass, and it definitely does not mean they don't belong on cerb.

I say "no thank you" to many potential appointments. If I dont enjoy the way the email is written such as lack of introduction, lack of effort ,etc. also if someone has an issue with my request for phone number, reference etc. I will decline and I dont take same day appointments or telephone bookings. I trust my instincts and if someone sounds off or iffy to me I simply say "take care and good bye". I haven't had a no show this year, maybe one in 2012. It works

This is a great topic, glad I came across it! I guess from my perspective, yes a "regular" client is a good thing of course, but if I lowered my rate to see you (simply because u see me often) I may be missing on a larger donation from someone else, simply because they don't see me as often? Doesn't seem very fair to me or the gent forking out the full rate. After numerous visits, if both parties enjoy each other, the chemistry has now grown and you're having an even more spectacular time than you did on your first visit... and if I get it right, you think this should cost you LESS? ERROR CODE 69 : Does not compute

Perhaps I missed the Cerb memo where the ladies needed someone to come to their rescue & you were elected saviour of the downtrodden, but dude, enough already. Because personally, as a smart articulate woman who can fully advocate for herself, I find your attitude & posts incredibly patronizing. That said, I have a whole other issue to address. This entire post makes me uncomfortable for reasons that have nothing to do with it's tone. Firstly, it reeks of a fishing expedition on how to run an agency & I feel reads like an SP or Agency/Spa discussing an Escort Industry problem. Because why does a photographer need to know the ins & outs of how to reduce the number of no shows? Again, why is this so important to you? Respectfully, if you ask questions here, you will get answers. Whether or not you like them is immaterial. This is a public forum with strong opinions from intelligent people. No one is trying to be mean, they are simply being honest & sharing their thoughts. If you have something informative, why not post it here if it is so awesome? But just because folks disagree with you does not mean that anyone is twisting stories, taking things out of context or that your posts are considered useless. I find them incredibly useful for my main bone of contention: your lack of discretion in implying that professional secert keepers are sharing info with you, followed by YOU cryptically sharing it here. I have 2 photographers that are also friends. They know my real name, address, phone number & personal details of my life. If I were to read a post such as this from either of them, I would be beyond incensed. And they would no longer be trusted. They would, however, be in every SP only area in which I participate as a warning to other ladies not to engage their services. You may wish to consider this when you read again how you have spoken out of school in reference to your clients. And since you feel that the reco is of such paramount importance that it MUST be written, know this, also, please: by alluding to the fact that SPs are talking to you, complaining, whatever, you are, without proof, quietly & perhaps irrevocably, casting aspersions as to the character & discretion of ladies you have seen. This alone may cost them more in terms of clients, money & reputation than any reco or lack thereof. In my mind, a sincere apology is rarely followed by a comment like this. The fact of the matter is: you got a lot of answers. Also a fact: you just don't like any of them. Fact: not a Cerb problem. Also fact: seems it's only yours. Sandi

Close, and good on ya for apologizing. I'd only point out that your final conclusion is off the mark. It's not that you won't find those answer "here", it's that you won't find them "this way". "Here" is actually a pretty awesome, thoughtful and informative place. So here's to tomorrow being a better Thumper day! ;)

Many of us on this board don't do no shows So Thanks but we don't need enlightening. The way you are wording your comments you make it sound like we are all guilty of doing no shows and I am sure I may not be the only one finding this insulting!!!

No one is saying the girls don't need recs. What we're saying is... not everyone wants to write them. And that's fine. A lot of men LOVE to write them, and I know I love receiving them. But I don't resent the clients who don't write them, and I would never want them to feel they HAD to write one. It wouldn't make me feel good about getting that rec, that's for sure. Cerb provides a lot of different things for a lot of different people... there's no right or wrong way (unless you're breaking the rules of course). Every client is different, and I for one like that :)

None of the above! I think 'She's ADORABLE and looks like soooo much fun, I'd like to have a no-pants dance party with her!'

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Everybody is correct here in that you won't find a freebie; but CERB is a good place to vent, cry and perhaps understand that at 22 this isn't going to be the last time this happens. Sorry hun. We can all say it's happened to us, but that certainly doesn't make your heart any less hurt. Maybe you can take what you say about showing it in the wrong ways and when you meet that next girl that makes your heart go pitter patter (and it will happen), you will know what not to do. At 22 none of us are experts in love. Hell lots of folks never learn. But I have faith that some day soon, when you least expect it some girl will turn your head and smile at you. Until then, perhaps browse the young ladies here and enjoy some "you" time.

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As a photographer, I usually get to chat with the clients and I found a disturbing phenomenon amongst most of them. Guys that don't leave any kind of recommendation for the ladies... even after seeing them several times. They obviously liked what went on in their session or they wouldn't be back... right? Most of them come from this site and they know what it's all about. That's why it's called CERB. We come here to read these recommendations and make an informed decision on who we will meet. Some deserving girls don't get the recognition they need because some selfless, lazy-ass dude won't take the time to say something nice. Unfortunately, most establishments have rules so the girls can't even ask for one after a few visits. In my opinion, it should be mandatory. If you met her on this site, and yes, probably based your desition on her recommendations, you should be required to post one. By not posting, you are insulting the MP/SP or at the very least, making her think she has done nothing right or something wrong. Whatever happened wasn't important enough for you to mention. If that is the case, why do you go back to her? I hope some of you lazy ass dudes that read this feel guilty enough to take the time and say something nice about the ladies you have visited. They work very hard to make a living and they deserve big tips and all the recommendations they can get. Who knows, she may even show her appreciation on your next visit. This is a site for the hobbyist so he can be informed. Other MPs/SPs know that most hobbyists see different ladies from time to time so there's no jealousy issues to worry about. There's no acceptable reason why you can't leave one. Don't be a miser. Leave a generous tip and say something nice for once in your life. Okay, rant is over. :-)

Mudbunny, previous posters have already given you some good advice and I believe if you use some of the tips you were given, you will do just fine ;) and enjoy your experiences that much more! As RG suggested, have a drink with the lady when you arrive. Talk a little to set the mood. There's no need to rush into anything. From there, the two of you can easily go for a sexy soapy shower together to warm things up a little more. When the two of you are being intimate and you feel yourself getting too close, you can always stop and take care of her for a while ;) and then enjoy some more direct stimulation later. If you happen to orgasm, nothing says the two of you cannot go for #2 :) If a second orgasms in not in the cards, the two of you can easily spend the remaining time cuddling and talking or giving each other a massage (and maybe take another sexy shower together). There are many ways of delaying the inevitable. Just use your imagination, explore and enjoy it! :)

I completely agree with MightyPen: Plus saying "thinks this is condescending" even your apology sound like you are condescending others. Just slapping in a "sorry" does not* make everything okay. "At least with the other post I did get some valuable information before it blew up that I can pass on. This one... not so much." READ READ READ. There is a LOT of VALUABLE INFORMATION here posted by providers and hobbyist; it just you have to take off your blinders and see it on broader view. blind·er: 1. blinders A pair of leather flaps attached to a horse's bridle to curtail side vision. Also called blinkers. 2. Something that serves to obscure clear perception and discernment.

I am reading on with this post now only to find out if it can get any more condescending than it is after this comment. This, coming from the same poster who objects to "Trolls" on another post today

She was nice of enough to send a picture to my email. She is F.I.N.E FINE!!!

While I agree with your intent, that good sessions should result in good recommendations (if the provider agrees - some don't), I'm a little taken aback by your approach. I'm taking myself back in time to when I first started here. I've got to learn the rules and the etiquette so I don't come across as the bumbling fool I'm afraid I might be. Now I've finally figured out who I want at the helm of my maiden CERB voyage. Gotta learn the details on how to arrange, present myself, conduct myself, and gracefully exit. Done. And now I should get my ass kicked if I don't write a recommendation? Seriously? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you didn't write this with newbies in mind. I agree with your un-selected choice of a gentle reminder to the more experienced members. But I can't quite shake the idea that there are one or four newbies reading this thread asking "WTF?" The above reflects only my uniformed opinion and no one else's. And who knows. I might disavow them tomorrow.

When asked to share more about yourself on the booking form or email you: A) attach a penis photo B) share an brief introduction and ask if the lady requires any more details C) ask the lady if she is a cop

I like the points made by the other posters, that some men just don't like to post... but I disagree with this one. If you'd like to write a recommendation, by all means post it - whether it's repetitive or not. A good time is a good time, and we like to get those recos, whether you're writing something similar or not. I do understand the reasons why some men don't write them, but I do think repetition shouldn't be a factor. I don't think it's redundant, instead I think it shows that a provider has continuded to provide good service, so she has continued to receive good reviews :)

I can say I have maybe 1 no show per year, at most. I think its completely avoidable.

I think your impulse is good Thumper, but I'm also with Lee and and Roamingguy on this one. I assume most Ladies consider recommendations along the same lines as they do tips -- appreciated when they happen but not necessarily expected. Good hygiene, respect, following directions, etc. -- these are rightfully expected. But a recommendation is, I would think, more a nice treat or bonus. Now I for one quite enjoy writing them. I think they are a valuable way to show your appreciation, and like you think they are well deserved. But I don't think they should be mandatory or that someone should feel guilty if they don't. Actually, I think they would lose some of their value if it was seen as a chore. Surely it's better to have fewer ones written by those truly moved to do so than have a string of them from people guilt-tripped into providing one. It's also worth pointing out that some ladies prefer not to have recommendations posted, or at least have preference in terms of content (a recommendation isn't typically the place for a "dear penthouse" type letter). There's nothing wrong with a gentle reminder that recommendations are often appreciated and worth doing. But they are not everything. I'm sure a lot of gentlemen have other ways of showing their appreciation, and it may not be fair to harshly judge those that prefer not to leave public recommendations of their encounters.

OMG! now I know why the folks at the UoM Cancer Clinic "recommended" that I should not drink alcohol for 48 - 72 hours! Thought I was pissing for a Kodak moment! After drinking (inhaling) beer and shooters with my buddies in Detroit Sunday night, got into my son's house in Toronto, and immediately went to the bathroom. Standing there doing my thing, and a Bright Blue stream is coming out of my cock!!! My kidneys are hurting and I am waiting for the CBS Peacock to come walking in to observe. Just about gave me a heart attack. Call the CC, after they stopped laughing, gave me a "told you so" said it was a reaction to one of the tracing drugs they gave me and the alcohol I drank. Whew! thought my new career would be with the tidy bowl company!!! Just waiting for final outcomes. Hugs to all. Tom The Liquor

I had the unfortunate experience of falling for a bait and switch. Long time member here and have never done a post like this, but feel I should warn others. Pics and age are not real. Without going Into details. I just want to make everyone aware that the person is misrepresenting herself and unfortunately many people(myself included) fell for the old bait and switch.

Yup, the delight and fulfillment I get from a good session with a wonderful lady usually affects the way I see myself and the world around me for days, and in its wake follow a bouquet of daydreams and a whole series of quiet little smiles to myself. That subsides after a while, but most of the time I carry one or two particular moments and images from each session with me forever. That's just one of the ongoing rewards.

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I would hope if a client and SP/MA had a severe allergy, they would communicate with one another what the allergy is before seeing each other.

My personal opinion is that they look like cattle stations. Sorry, but the CR in barbs has to be the worst. Sexy ladies, but CR suck.

Question 9 If asked for references you should; A) give them your current bosses name and contact information B) explain that you are just a great lover so no need for references C) check with a recent provider that you've seen that it is ok to share her info and pass on name/contact information. D) send her a full resume of your skills and experiences

The Importance of following Instructions.... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=78942

This is a common occurrence. You just need to learn to delay, or go more then once. You can train yourself to delay when you masturbate. Once you feel close to cuming, you stop for a moment, until you feel ready to go forward. Keep doing this until you are ready. When you are with a lady, ask her if she can help you delay. Come up with a code word to tell her when you are getting close. I've heard others use something simple like 9. Easy to say, and when you say that, she can stop what she is doing, and slow things down for a bit. Have a great day!

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question: when you are asked to confirm your appointment 24 hours prior via call or text, you should a) confirm when requested, with the method requested b) confirm via email c) ignore the request, you're too busy for these little details

You're never doomed because of early cumings dude. I think most guys go through that at some point. There are a lot of good suggestions here and you only need to learn some of them. Most guys know when they are about to cum so if you don't want to cum yet, stop what you're doing for a few seconds. Take away that feeling down there so you don't cum. If you're inside her and get that erg, pull out and go down on her for a bit. Then start over. If it's a bj, lightly pull her head away with both hands and passionately kiss her for a while. It's just mind over matter. Make the mind think about something else for a moment so the rest doesn't matter. Early ejaculation will be a thing of the past and you'll get the reputation of being the long lasting stud you're probably looking for. :-)

Ok. I think Hands On has had his questioned answered and I'll hazard a guess that he wishes he never asked. But HO you did get your answer and perhaps learned what you were asking, and then some. I have found this thread rather interesting to hear the opinions of others and how they view this. Education from experience at its best. Give and take is something you develop over time but money isn't the issue. There are many other perks than just the almighty dollar for some of us as seen here. So my question to you is, have you changed your opinion?

Short and sweet .... Work within your budget. A good clientele base does not come from giving deals. It comes from giving good quality service...or... simply having good folks to deal with .. or an awesome combination of the two and don't shop at Walmart......that's a frickin zoo there...seriously !! don't go there .... ;)

I'm definitely not a newer SP, but I feel a bit like the OP is trying to pull a fast one, defining the choice as between being willing to compromise on rates to keep a nice regular, and being a cold, calculating woman fixed only on the bottom line. That's a false choice. The fact is, there are plenty of really decent, enjoyable men out there who are willing and able to pay our rates. Ending up with a bunch of cheap regulars will only stress an SP out and is more likely to lead her into situations in which she rushes people or her quality of service suffers. And please don't make it sound like this is somehow easier for someone who doesn't need the money or who hasn't set goals for making a certain amount. I'm just such an SP. I've never been a go-getter. Other than keeping myself in jump money (which I don't even need anymore), I was never the type that had a list of expensive things to acquire. But that doesn't mean that I would ever be willing to spend more time with someone for less money just to see them more often. Because a woman like me isn't in the business to make lots of money, but to have lots of time. Suggesting she give you more for less is a bit like the guy who wants to pay you with cocaine and do it with you during the session. (And believe it or not, I've received that offer too many times over the years. :( )

Hi, Just wondering if there are other female clients or future clients here on CERB. I am not sure if it is unusual to have a non service providing woman on CERB but i get soliciting emails from men here on CERB. They are fine when I tell them I'm on the clientele end, except the one guy who asked to share an SP. Anyway, just wondering, if there are others, or if I'm just really pervy for a woman. Thanks!