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I'm out to all in my life. The reactions were varied, some stepped up and supported me; others disowned me. I prefer to know who I can count on so I disclose it up front and allow people to make the decision for themselves to get to know me or not. I'm so far beyond caring what anyone else thinks at this point in my life that it is easy for me to do. The only time it causes issues is when people are not honest with themselves about how they feel about my work. They misrepresent themselves as being ok with it when in fact they aren't. That has caused some rough patches in the past and now I take a long time to get to know someone before I let them get close so I know I've done my due diligence in protecting me and mine. I do believe that the industry as a whole needs to be prepared to shed some light on the realities to dispel the myths but I understand those that fear the reaction and chose to closet their choices. I view every interaction I have with the "squares" as a chance to challenge their preconceived ideas and as a little one on one public relations. I don't fit the stereotype (as few of us do!) and most often than not they go away with food for thought. Planting the seeds of doubt and having patience is all it takes to change minds... cat

I'm 100% open. My friends and family all know what I do, and are all completely supportive of me and my decisions.

The fact that hobbying needs to be kept private is one of the main reasons that understanding of what sex work is and how prevalent and necessary this industry is. Our media presents a very one sided view of sex work and the voices of the men and women who see providers are all most never heard. We need more books like Paying For It and more men and women who are able to speak openly about their experiences. Remember your providers when you vote and remember us when folks are speajing poorly of us.

Question 23 IF and when you start developing feelings for a lady companion, do you: A) Text her every single day because you miss her and because your day never feels complete without talking to her B) Start showing up at her incall unannounced so you can see her C) Drive by her incall and sit in your car and wait to see if she is seeing other clients D) Write her a love letter expressing your feelings in hopes she feels the same way E) Give yourself a headshake and take a step back to realize that, even though what you share with her is very personal and intimate, the lady has not become an SP to find friends, friends with benefits, personal lovers and/or a boyfriend and is not looking for any of the latter even if she genuinely likes you and appreciates your company.

I think marriage can be a great institution for two grown-up people who enter into it thoughtfully and aware. At the same time it's not a precondition for happiness, it's not the only "right" way to live, and for a lot of perfectly good and healthy people it's just a really bad fit and better foregone. The seed for marriage is romantic love and passion, but it's intended to grow into something more in which two people support each other's lifelong hopes and ambitions, and promise to be there to care for each other even through sickness and setbacks. There's got to be something kept exclusive to the relationship, reserved only for your marriage partner and which makes that relationship unique (otherwise why be married at all?). But what that exclusive thing is depends on the couple. It doesn't have to be sex... but whatever it is, the partners need to agree about it and set the boundaries beforehand. Problems arise though when people expect their marriage to be the *everything* of their lives, all the time. Or when one or both people grows into a new and different self, but they take no measures (or try and fail) to adjust their relationship to match. So yeah, there's lots that can go wrong with each marriage, but that doesn't mean it's doomed as an institution. Like anything else between two people, the participants need to communicate and adapt over time for things to keep working. Problem is, since marriage is so often entered into when young and idealistic, and marriage itself perceived with highly-charged awe, it can be very hard to stop and look at it objectively as a thing the couple themselves own and can alter to the shape they need. A really short version of all that would be: marriage can work really well when the couple themselves own the marriage, but seldom works well when they feel the marriage owns them.

Probably just Superman and Dr. Who.

This is a great topic, glad I came across it! I guess from my perspective, yes a "regular" client is a good thing of course, but if I lowered my rate to see you (simply because u see me often) I may be missing on a larger donation from someone else, simply because they don't see me as often? Doesn't seem very fair to me or the gent forking out the full rate. After numerous visits, if both parties enjoy each other, the chemistry has now grown and you're having an even more spectacular time than you did on your first visit... and if I get it right, you think this should cost you LESS? ERROR CODE 69 : Does not compute

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Totally illegal, but on my own time there's nothing like getting it on in the bushes or tall grass where one wont get caught. ;)

For years I have repeatedly asked that they stop wasting the trees and stop delivering mine. Those requests go ignored. It gets stored in the basement and gets recycled all dusty and unused. Bad Bell. :spank:

50% of the people close to me know between close friends and family members... I have open up to friends that in the past have shown to me that they are my true friends no matter what.., in good and in bad.. It was not easy because there is always the fear of rejection.. fortunately they have accept me and nothing has change between us... Some friends not as close I dont feel omfortable talking to them about what i do and i just orefer to keep them in the dark... And when it comes to the rest of the world... Is really none of their business what I do...

My friends and family know that I'm an escort. Although I'm not out on 'paper' because I'm apprehensive about the effect this could have on future career opportunities. For example, if you Google my real name there is no indication that I've worked as an escort. Apart from being slightly worried about my safety on occasion, mainly because of what they hear in the media, my friends and family know that I'm an intelligent young woman and I'm doing what's in my best interest, both emotionally, physically, and financially. When I speak to 'square' folk (as Cat aptly put it) I do think it's a great opportunity to disrupt some of the stereotypes associated with the industry. Most people react with curiosity and want to ask questions without being rude or invasive. I've had good experiences almost everytime I've told someone, but that's perhaps because I surround myself with awesome people! I don't scream it from the rooftops but I definitely don't hide it either. It's definitely hard when people seem supportive but prove not to be later down the line... It's an entirely different story for people in the industry who have SOs, be they sex workers or clients. Being out can have broader implications. Sometimes there are two (or more) people to take into consideration...

I also have a so, as does my friends I brought. The reason I had the idea of cmj was because one of the friends likes the strip club way to much and the other is basically a virgin, they both have confided in me very privately some information, so I decided to repay the favor. As cristy said, to be friends like we are, we have to be open about everything, he opened up aand now so have I. And honestly, being able to speak freely on Cerb helps, but now I can sit and have a true conversation about the industry with someone very close to me without judgment

Just like NotchJ, I also have the need to keep all of this under the radar.. There is however, one of my best friends of 35+ years, who has confided in me about his second persona last year. He is a Dom and has found his Sub and has his needs, wants, demons and desires fulfilled. We have had a few excellent conversations about each other dilemma or alter ego, i recently told him that I am on CERB, as a vehicle to have and open and honest means to voice my feelings. which is true!! but i have not told him of a few connections I've made... But he is a very intelligent man... I think he has figured it out that I have sought solace in a lady's arms... :-) I'll stop here.. D.

I used to be quite open about this profession and my opinions concerning it. However those I told used it against me so now I keep it between myself and two of my closest friends, I would trust those two people with my life:). They had to know as I didn't think I could be truly close without them knowing everything about me. I believe great friends need to know about one another. But as the old saying goes -if you don't want anyone knowing anything then don't tell ANYONE!

Phone books are only useful for short people now I find. They have to see over the steering wheel somehow right? We were wasting well over 700$ a month on our family business for a listing that people never saw because no one uses them anymore, I don't even remember how to look someone/something up anymore I don't think

When you have a request, the best way to communicate it is to send a PM or email to the SP and start out by telling her what it is you are looking for. Most SPs are receptive to this when it's done in a manner that shows you took the time to write it as opposed to saying "xxxxxx?" or one of the many one liners in PMs, emails or texts that an SP gets on a daily basis. This isn't to say that you would write that but when it is conveyed in a respectful manner, you are likely to get a better reponse. Don't get too long winded about it and keep it succinct. Most SPs prefer it that way as many of us don't have time for back and forth exchanges ( I know I don't!) to only request a specfic service in the fourth or fifth email or Pm. An intro with your name, age, your experience in seeing SPs, what you enjoy in the bedroom and what you like from an SP during your time together will show the SP that you are serious and not wasting her time. Straightforward in a nice, respectful way that is not crude is what many of us look for.

So covered (aka. Protected, wearing condom) is not always desirable with some men. I agree flesh-to-flesh with your lover is my preference too. However, there is a way to tip the scales to wearing protection. When applying the protection, put a drop or two of warming up water based lubricant inside the head of the condom. Then roll it on. A few strokes to spread the lube around the entire head of the penis. Then HJ, BJ, FS, whatever. The condom feels like it's not even there at the most sensitive parts of the head. When the man releases pre-cum, the lube heats up and travels down the length if the penis. It feels like she came hard and covered you cock with her cream. That's usually enough to set the guy off. And there is very little to clean up. No need to aim it in a safe direction or wash the ceiling tiles afterwards. Guys can try it by yourself. Let's hear back of your experiences.

No doubt this is all true. For those who are able, I'd suggest a weekday afternoon or Saturday afternoon visit. On many weekdays the CR is not that crowded and a good deal of privacy may be had, although Thursdays and Fridays can be busier than other weekdays. Saturday afternoons can seem a bit slow, but if an ATF dancer (say Jenny or Ariel) is in, it can be the best of all possible worlds - relatively empty CR, no visits "every couple of minutes" and not as much of a wait if you have a particular fave dancer in your sights. Just my view though - I know some clubgoers prefer the more active evening atmosphere.

Mudbunny, previous posters have already given you some good advice and I believe if you use some of the tips you were given, you will do just fine ;) and enjoy your experiences that much more! As RG suggested, have a drink with the lady when you arrive. Talk a little to set the mood. There's no need to rush into anything. From there, the two of you can easily go for a sexy soapy shower together to warm things up a little more. When the two of you are being intimate and you feel yourself getting too close, you can always stop and take care of her for a while ;) and then enjoy some more direct stimulation later. If you happen to orgasm, nothing says the two of you cannot go for #2 :) If a second orgasms in not in the cards, the two of you can easily spend the remaining time cuddling and talking or giving each other a massage (and maybe take another sexy shower together). There are many ways of delaying the inevitable. Just use your imagination, explore and enjoy it! :)

Remember though, in this day and age with even more ladies getting into the business than ever before, not all older SPs are necessarily more experienced than some of the younger ones. I know SPs in the their late 20's/earlier 30's who have more experience than some ladies 40+ who have only recently gotten into the business. I think Roaming Guy pretty well hit the nail on the head, that it's not so much about age, as the attitude. As a mature provider who has been around for the past 15 years, I can say that when I started (part-time), it was agency driven and outcall only. It was a completely different mentality then. GFE was not even heard of and I was only permitted to provided FS with CBJ (no kissing an no daty were allowed). Over the years, the shift being able to work indy, provide incalls, offer one'es own brand of service and of course the Internet revolution, has changed things considerably. It seems now days, anyone with a picture, Internet connection and a cell phone can call themselves a Service Provider. This has provided a tremendous pool of ladies to choose from, not all of them necessarily providing good service. It really is "buyer beware" out there. The good news is though that regardless of age and description you are seeking, you need to do you research. There are many amazing ladies out there, and boards such as CERB and sites like escorts-canada are not fool proof guarantees, but a good place to start in finding someone with a good reputation who offers the type of service you are looking for, regardless of their age.

I finally got to see DoubleDDLove666 aka Cassie . She a former dancer , and wow she still got the moves . Before booking with her we had chatted a lot and I found her to be a sweet charming girl . Everything about this girl is great . There nothing much I can complain about . I meet her at her nice incall place . She spent the time to dress up and we had a great time . I won't spend time explaining just go see this girl ! She well worth time ! Trust me gents ! Hope to see her around more !

Has anyone had the pleasure?

Looking for an SP who is a cigarette smoker for a smoking fetish date. Any idea's of a lady who could meet me needs?

Call me a clairvoyant.. (LOL) Something tells me that these are all situations that have manifested themselves.... Thanks for reaffirming the reality... because it is something that can be easily be blurred when one has starving soul and a hungry heart... I'll stop here.. D.

Like others, I hardly discuss my sex life with anyone but my partners themselves. And most of the people I might be inclined to talk to about the sex industry's role in my personal life would react badly. I would get a lot of silly, misguided "but how can someone like YOU do THAT!?" One of the problems is that to do that conversation right, you have to both describe what DOES happen, and work hard to dispel what they THINK you mean when you say "I visit prostitutes". For that you need time, focus, and someone who can be thoughtful and challenge their own media-driven (often emotionally charged) preconceptions. To do all that, there needs to be some benefit that's worth all that work and risk. I've talked about it with one friend I knew when those circumstances lined up right, and she was great. We covered a lot of ground, she had natural concerns that I addressed one by one, and she understood by the end the positive role sex work could play with free, willing participants. I've also found myself stepping up in conversations to defend sex work and sex workers, without saying I'm a client. I can see this continuing to evolve.

I don't really discuss my sex life with other people. But I don't have any problems honestly expressing my opinions on the sex trade, which is a topic of conversation that comes up from time to time. I never feel under any pressure to pretend that I am some sort of conservative and condem the sex trade.

what the hell is b+g? lol

looks like someone needs to get an LTE superphone lol

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Of the people close to me, i've formally told only a friend of 20+ years of my direct involvement in the business, but i knew the news would'nt be a surprise. Though i'm single, or because of it, i was able to be open about it some time ago, which went well (better than i ever conceived, though i know its not within everyone's reach to do). In the past 10 months, i've taken a discreet approach in trying to dispell the myths in regards to the industry. Cat said it well, planting the seeds of doubt and having patience is key to change minds.

I guess that tread need to be pump up In the last days I request protocol to confirm..it seem that all half new clients choose to not follow it.. I'm trying to understand is it like the 5 years old kid that refuse to comply to rules?fake the shower?? I even modify my ad how I work on two calls system which is on my website and yet people don't follow..don't provide info I'm really puzzle as I get told I am cold ..not nice via text when the same questions are asks without any info and appear on my site "How can we hook up" To which I rly what is already request on my ad to get "It could be more friendly but I guess those are manners that should be expected from a whore" I would love to make our time together awesome however if along the process I get constantly ignored as per request it does somehow not put me in the best mood... It very hard to be respectful when people are very rude...I understand that those days clinics,public gov place have sign saying verbally abuse won't be tolerate..should we have one Why is it so hard when you never met a lady to the least introduce yourself with Informations as she requested..then she may be more incline to respond to some apprehension or questions she may have Sadly when repeatively gents don't follow instructions it put. I. Annoy mood I'm expected to provide the best experience however I am human if I feel my instructions been ignored it does affect my mood VJ

I actually use mine. Even if my computer is turned on, I will out of habit reach for the directory.

When you ask how the place is decorated, what are some items you are looking for that sets the mood and tone for an encounter? I've had incall locations that were professionally decorated that really created a nice vibe and I've used other locations where the interior was basic but provided the necessities. Clutter is not something that is appealing and minimalistic is best with the right accessories such as pillows, lighting, etc. I've also used a location of a friend of mine on a regular basis and they are an interior designer.lol. Sometimes the little things like candles, lamps, bedding provides a nice touch to make things more comfortable and sensual.

American t.v. shows portray this wayyyy too much of LE posing as escorts or clients. The prostitutions laws differ greatly here in Canada as it is NOT illegal to be a prostitute whereas in the U.S it is. I believe that one has to familiarize themselves with the prostitution laws in Canada before meeting an escort. Being paranoid and asking an SP if she is a cop is not a valid one if one isn't aware of the laws regarding prostitution. And it's a question that isn't going to give someone brownie points with the ladies. Instead they may ask that person to leave. If a person has hesitations about this then maybe it's not a good idea to meet an SP in the first place. If a client is really worried that an SP may be LE, rest assured that once she touches you sexually and she is fully naked, you know damn well she is not a police officer. Discuss rates and services before visiting and if these questions aren't brought on by the SP at the beginning of the visit, she is NOT LE. Also, visit ladies who are reputable and well known and you won't have any problems. Just do not pick up a woman on a street corner. They focus more on streetworkers.

I want to thank Lowdark for starting this thread and each of you for your wishes, I hope you also get all you wished for me and some more :)

All the above girls are great, each one different in their own ways. Don't forget JessicaMassage, Gina and Kellyxo. These girls offer true GFE experiences and are very good at treating you like a king and making sure that you are happy. It's always YMMV, it depends on the chemistry or connection and hygiene. Not all experiences are the same and depends on how the two of you relate to each other. Overall, they were all fun in different ways. Some were exceptional, but every experience is always different, even when it comes to repeat visits, otherwise it would be predictable. That's why meeting new girls is interesting, never know what's going to happen :) Can't forget the latest MA that I've seen. ChantalSummers, she is rapidly gaining a reputation as being a sexy fun GFE MA. She has a great sense of humour and is dedicated to making sure you are enjoying yourself.

I decided to start a new social group for the Cigar Aficionado where we can share our favorite smoke, comment about ratings, make recommendations such as what beverage you would enjoy with which cigar etc...( maybe even a cigar fetish story? * evil grin * ) Look forward to meeting and sharing with each of you. Cheers http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/group.php?groupid=190

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I don't personally have any allergies that would affect anything. I've had one person call to tell me that they were allergic to condoms (latex and otherwise) which was good so I could refuse the appointment right there. I'd like to think that if you a severe allergy you would inform the oTher party. Nothing ruins the mood like anaphylactic shock

Its to let us all know what is the real outcome. Also if we didn't we would only have 3 posts in 3 years just saying

If you're new and don't have a reference to provide when she asks .. you should: a ) make up some names b ) lie and tell her you've seen everyone c ) politely explain you're new, and don't have one yet, and hope she'll accommodate your request for a meeting and provide you with that reference for next time.

Question 9 If asked for references you should; A) give them your current bosses name and contact information B) explain that you are just a great lover so no need for references C) check with a recent provider that you've seen that it is ok to share her info and pass on name/contact information. D) send her a full resume of your skills and experiences

Taking my son to Wendys :-)

Yup do it all the time.

I have to admit that I'm with Pistol Pete on this one. Even when I was employed at a spa, I would rarely leave a gentlemen to undress or shower on his own. Since I've been indy, their has often been a trail of clothing from the entrance of my place, to my bedroom! Every time is always unique though and sometimes we can start on the couch chatting before I jump onto your lap, or perhaps in the kitchen, varying positions of me on the counter. :icon_lol: I've been told my local is quite posh, which makes it easy for anyone to feel comfortable once inside my incall... I think this is how I get away with being so close from the moment that we meet, without coming off as being to strong. Just being naked with someone, I feel, it the best way to get to know each other. So, unless requested, I always try take off my clothes ASAP.

I have been in lesbian relationships way before escorting. When I provide duos, whether they are interactive or not, what comes first is not to have a strong sexual attraction toward my duo partner because this could be disappointing. What is essential is that we work in a similar manner, that our personality match, that we both treat our clients with respect, that we are both comfortable with our body and our work and that we are able to laugh together. In my view, the personality/business chemistry comes prior and is essential for the fun to really happen. Many men have told to my duo partners and me that we really seem to enjoy working together and that they appreciate that. Offering duos is a marketing tool since many men are looking to fulfill this fantasy, but it is also one more way to have fun at work.