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I have been a HUGE fan of nuru for many years now and I would have to side with Gina (Urban Vibe) (Number 1) and Jessica (Indy) (Number 2) as my "all-time" favourites. Although, Alexandria is new at this I have enjoyed sessions with her. Vitto has always provided great session so I may have to check out her with nuru, I suspect that will be great also.

I just think there is a disconnect from what you think is going on versus what the sps are telling you is going on. You do have a lot of experience, which to me means you are not as familiar as we are with what the typical newbie is going to be doing or asking about. What a newbie guy would ask is 'do I come to you or do you come to me?", nothing about who is paying for what hotel, he doesn't have enough experience to think that one of his options would be to rent a hotel room for the sp to come to him (outcall). i think the sps are naturally puzzled by the insistence that this is a typical (i.e. valid) question, and I think the majority of sps getting such a question would be eye rolling and hanging up/not replying, because if this is an example of how he is thinking, there is no hope he's also going to understand even the basics of setting up an appointment, let alone meeting and paying, and by that I mean, respecting the sp's restrictions, boundaries and limits. And that's assuming she believes he is a newbie potential, and not just an experienced guy playing games. Her first thought is probably the latter. The other issue seems to be that you don't want anyone, mostly sps, telling you any of that. And that is your issue. You can either become reactionary whenever anyone disagrees with you, or even just tries to explain their own POV and experiences, and LEARN from that, or you can continue to repeat your own points, to the exclusion of all others. Some take offense to the sps who do not have patience for very new first timers who sometimes have ridiculous questions. But it is their preference to not deal with first timers, or at least first timers that need a lot of hand holding. Some sps do deal with those guys. I'm one of those kinds. I'll tell someone things that are in the ad, I'll explain the difference between in and out, and give tips for looking at other ads, and making a good choice. But I promote that, and make a good session for someone doing this for the first time. I am not necessarily suitable for the hardcore hobbiest, who actively seeks one time encounters, to review them. I discourage that kind of guy actually, if I feel the caller is too 'checklist' oriented, I'll pass. The types of questions I am getting from the professional client are questions I don't have patience for, and I'm going to treat them like some sps treat the guys who don't read their ads or approach them in the right way. Some pro clients approach me in the way that I want to be approached. The ones who want to do things their own way, will be turned down.

Dude. You dug yourself this hole. Reread your posts. What FilmGeek said to you was SPOT ON. It's as basic as this, if you (the general you, not you specifically) can't read the extensive info that's been provided on our websites and in our ads, if you're in such a rush to get your dick wet that you can't even bother doing a bit of internet research (hi, there are guides to client etiquette out there: a quick google search of "escort + client+ etiquette" pulls up this link http://bellastr26.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/client-etiquette/), you should just wank off. If you have read it and can't be bothered to follow our rules/requests/etiquette, that says a lot about you and it's a GIANT RED FLAG. Dudes who can't respect virtual/online requests sure as hell aren't going to respect my wishes in person. I am running a business; my website is written to answer as many common questions as possible. I still get a billion "what are you rates" or "where is your incall" questions when all of that wonderful info is provided on my website AND in my ads. Usually I redirect to the site. If you come back with yet more questions that have already been answered, well you can just forget seeing me. I don't have time to repeat everything that I've already spent enormous amounts of time SPELLING OUT for you. Not to mention, if you made it as far as making an account on CERB, then you can access the "new to this?" section and don't need to be making excuses about not knowing how things work.

My short answer is, let me think... definitely no way in hell ;) Dealing with someone who drinks too much is not a priority of mine and I want to stay far, far away from it. Also, you have to consider that his drinking might take away from his ability to "fuck like a porn star" or "cook like a pro" so what am I left with? A drunk man who likes to fight? The cussing like a sailor part? lol No-thank-you :) I can get a great meal at restaurant without having to deal with drunkenness and/or a drunk chef that will mess up my food, and that, without the constant swearing involved, leave a generous tip on my way out, call a FWB (or two) who fucks like a porn star for dessert and all that with no strings attached, drama or headaches involved! I like to keep it simple!! :)

After reading all of the posts, I think that there is more agreement here than disagreement. I think that the only issue people have is the original post implying that this experience is evidence that Cerb is wrong to only allow recommendations. Many have pointed out that experiences like this are absolutely not what that rule had in mind. In my mind, this experience right away qualified as a bait and switch before the "bodyguard" even got involved. There was clearly at least an implied threat after that happened. I'm very relieved to hear that that was as far as it went. The idea of this man barging in like that quite frankly scares the hell out of me. There should definitely be a post in the dangerous encounters section, naming names. That is what that section is for. I myself, check it regularly, especially before I book with someone who is unknown to me. I strongly encourage other members to do the same to hopefully avoid this type of situation. In my mind (and I don't speak for cerb by any means) the "no negative review" rule is simply to avoid the cattiness and hostility that it can bring. There is a huge difference between being threatened, and saying something like "A's oral skills aren't as good as B's" or "she needs to lose a few pounds". (The majority of such comments on sites that allow them likely come from jealous competitors, their associates, or stalker ex-boyfriends anyway.) All they do is create an environment that causes many sp's to avoid the boards. So please, if anyone has had such an encounter as this, post it. (in the proper section). It is for the good of everyone to bring these people to light. And thank you to the op for wanting to share this experience. Again, I'm glad it was a safe conclusion. I can only assume that there are many men out there who were not as fortunate. Safe hobbying everyone, Mikey

Yup! Much older men have always fascinated me because sometimes... just sometimes, you can get them talking afterwards. And they tell you about things you won't find in any history book. They were there and lived it. When I first started, back in the 70s, I was privileged to listen to men who'd lived through the Great Depression, WWII, and survived the Holocaust. My soon-to-be 90 friend was an adolescent on the verge of manhood in Holland during WWII and told of how his parents had to hide him and his brothers from the Nazis, who rounded up young men and sent them to labour camp. Another friend told me of eating mashed parsnips mixed with isoamyl acetate (blech!) to make a sort of fake bananas, they were so desperate for any food variety in Ireland during WWII. One of my earliest regulars was a sweet little old man (who's eyeballs were just about at nipple level on me). He'd done well for himself in commercial real estate but was almost pathologically cheap. He also _always_ had food stashed away in his pockets. A half eaten sandwich. A bit of pastry. It was kinda gross. One day I asked him about it, and he explained that he'd lived through the Depression. He was just a kid, but his family had it rough. A fear of being hungry never left him. One thing that impresses me in many of these personal accounts is the resiliency of humans, and I realize just how lucky I was to be born in the exact time and place I was. Twenty or more years, one way or another, or a few thousand miles made a whopping difference in the opportunities I could expect.

That my friend is the basic definition of a incall

I find that this picture below (from FB) does not belong to the " Funny Pictures", or " ..Lol Cat..." or " Puppies" thread, or any existing threads for that matter. It is cute, interesting, endearing and heart-warming. This thread should capture some incredible and interesting pictures you may find in the cyber space.

Inspired by the Top 5 Guitarists, thread, I was thinking about my favourite top 5 male and female vocalists. Male Vocalists: 1. Steve Perry (Journey) Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin: 2. Rob Halford (Judas Priest) Hellion/Electric Eye: 3. Bruce Dickenson (Iron Maiden) The Number of the Beast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o 4. Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin, Solo Career) When the Levee Breaks: 5. Ronnie James Dio (Rainbow, Dio and Black Sabbath) Rainbow in the Dark: Female Vocalists: 1. Stevie Nicks (Fleetwood Mac, Solo Career) Edge of Seventeen: 2. Ann Wilson (Heart) Magic Man: 3. Bette Midler Wind Beneath My Wings: 4. Cher Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves: If I could Turn Back Time: 5. Celine Dion The Power of Love:

As acqua mentioned is not about how does more or about who charge less...its about amazing experiences and all ladies on industry that offer nuru... competition is not about undercutting just a personal opinion. Is about keeping clients happy and keeping industry in a classy way.

@muncher459 I hope you make your birthday into everything you could wish with someone who will treat you right (you've come to the right place for THAT). 60 is still a young age with lots of pleasure and enjoyment left and anyone who tells you any differently should be given a swift boot to the posterior. Age is just a number and by FAR attitude makes the person as young as they perceive themselves to be. Don't wish to have started earlier, live in the moment and embrace every pleasure you can and think about what you can experience today! *muah*

Both. I don't think I could have one without the other. If I get a sense a man is truly into me it relaxes me, gives me extra confidence and that in turn allows me the ability and desire to want to get off. If you are with someone and you get the feeling they aren't into you I would think then you'd just go through the motions as well, which would be no fun. Pleasure should be shared, given and taken:)

I'm on a Samsung Galaxy S3 and yup, the voice thing is awesome. I was a BB user for years but discovered a whole new feeling of liberation when I moved to the Samsung. If you really want to play with your phone in traffic, get a bluetooth device. Most bluetooth devices are those things you see in people's ears as they walk down the sidewalk looking like they are talking to Jesus or whoever. But there are bluetooth things you can get that standalone in your car - visor, dash, whatever. The advantage of these things is you can hear who the call is before you answer it and you answer it via voice commands (depending on the device you get). I have a BlueAnt Q3 in combination with my Samsung and I can place calls, answer them, send texts, open apps all without touching my phone - wave at the nice policeman sitting next to you. :)

Something just flew right over my head but I have no idea what it is! On a side note:

I have been to the Lord Elgin lots of times without any issues. I am always discreetly attired. I am not aware of anyone else having issues with nice looking visitors.

We should let gentlemans decide... is not about who does more is about who does it better. There is lots of indy talent to be discover cheers!

I don't mind turkey but if I had my choice, just make me a big pan of stuffing with a side of gravy.

My friend went there a few times under the old ownership, it was called YES massage or something like that. He liked the place because of it was very clean and well maintained. The possibility of taking a free steam bath after the session was also a plus. He returned a couple of times after, and he agrees, the guy running the place just doesn't have it when it comes to dealing with the public. He seems to be there to dispatch the girls and stare at the clock. The new girls were not as open when it was time to deal with details of the massage session. No more BS, the best my friend could get was a HJ with limited ROC. He gave up on the place, he did not return in the last 15 months.

As a gentleman, I believe it's important for the lady to finish first and finish often. If she isn't having a good time, neither am I.

It's easy for myself to get off on my own. I mean , put some porn on, get arosed and stroke myself to cum and bam! done! But that is no fun every time. So being in this is all about exploring how I can please a lady while pleasing myself. No better way that seeking a professional where its easier to express interesting ways in having fun that is beneficial for both of us.

I'll start off with, what happened to the OP was horrible and he was lucky that nothing escalated past what he could handle. The details of the encounter should be entered, if they haven't been, in the appropriate section for everyone's benefit. Secondly, there have been many threads in other sections discussing the idea of reviews and why Cerb is a recommendation only board (I'm not going to dig them all up, but you can find them if you want to). The general gist of all of them have been keeping things complimentary makes this board a safe place for the SP's. Reviews can be used against an SP and there is no real way to prove or disprove a damaging review. Once that damaging review is there, warranted or not, it will hurt that SP's business no matter how many good reviews are there. If a SP's business, and image can be tarnished with no recourse, they will ignore the board and it ceases to be the place that Cerb is. As many people have said, there is a section that lists bait and switch, fake pictures and dangerous situations. People should post in these sections for the safety of all. If the OP posted there I don't think there would have been any issue with the post, and hopefully others can escape such situations. The key is in the details, people need to know that others were involved and misleading photo's were used. I believe severally out of date photo's count as bait and switch. This board can be very helpful if you take time to read through the sections, and do some searches on past threads.

It's really crucial for me to believe that my partner is enjoying herself (a lot!), though I understand that orgasms themselves can just sometimes be elusive so that's not my exclusive yardstick for the encounter. I like my own excitement and orgasms (no kidding!), but the truth is I can experience those just about anytime all by myself. One of the unique appeals about an encounter with an SP is spending time with a wonderful, sexy woman and sensing HER excitement. That makes the encounter "us" and not just "me", which is kinda the point.

I, like the majority want to please my partner as much as I can, and I think the real key is open communication, when two people (or more lol) can express in words what they like/dislike/want/need etc... It can't help but be a pleasureble experience for both no? :-)

Love a waste of time is someone that does it receptively....to one or several ladies..that lies about the reason of canceling and it doesn't add up..Ya know like my dog ate my homework type of thingy To anyone out there they feel they may I have take that turn..Make good to the sp you have done it the most before shopping elsewhere I for myself a big believer of sisterhood and if they got screwed it hurt me I will stick my neck for them

I hates to bring it this way but..Do you bring this topic because yo feel you may have burned few chances with so ladies or just curious Personally? I am a person of a short words when booking app..As Genevieve. I am French and sometime a lot of communication can lead to Wierd discussion plus when you tour you somehow expect serious guys to not be lazy read your ads and website and mostly know the answer to their questions Anyone can be polite and do not respect how to follow instructions or ask questions that all been answered I. Ads and website...It doesn't mean saying please and thank you.That it may not be annoying. And consider a waste of time If a lady travel in 6 or 7 cities you have to X the amount of ext,emails,Pms she will get to actuall get a serious person that will book an app I strongly believe that men should know if they are available or not and serious about getting an app before their inquiries Why sending and email inquiring if you won't be available ? At the end ...it should be simple. If someone desire to engage in a mind game..I am not the sp for them VJ

Hey Guys, Posting for the first time ........ I will be dancing @ Silver Dollar tonight from 7pm till 1am. Come in for a beer to meet me for the first time ......... or stay for a bit and have a wonderful, sensual dance from yours truly! Please refer to me as "Raven" in the club. Hope to see you there! ;) Cheers, Maddy aka Raven xoxo

In my Opinion ... every scenario is different... by email I think the 3 message rule is a good one.. First email to gather as much info as you can from the lady, concerning services, rates, restrictions, and any other important information to be given.., Second one is to clarify any doubts or things that were not cleared in a second communication... third yes you should be ready to book.. Off course depending on how the conversation has develop there can be exceptions and variations... When it comes to texting being a quick method.. it can take a little more than 3 messages... but please if you start a conversation PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CAN CONTINUE... One thing that is most anoying is someone that starts a conversation and take long time in between messages... We are not just sitting down answering messages..., sometimes we are in between appointments and if you take long to reply we may not be able to reply with all the answers that you need... Phone conversation... now in this one I usually know by the tone of voice, and the type of questions asked... Be presice and direct you will get the right answers.. DO NOT start saying... Oh You look Hot in your Pics.. Your Breast are beautiful... Can I do this with them.. or qould you do this to me... really???? BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE IS BE RESPECTFUL AT ALL TIMES.. no matter if it is email text or Voice call... RESPECT IS THE MAJOR RULE WHEN STARTING A CONVERSATION! Now when it comes to a repeat client, things are easier.. I dont mind the odd Hi just to keep in touch even if it is not to book and appointment... Is nice to know someone is thinking about you... but DO NOT PLEASE atart doing it EVERY DAY, ALL DAY... That is not correct! We have lives aside from our job... I do not need a GOOD MORNING A HOW IS YOUR DAY GOING? I AM THINKING ABOUT YOU.!! COME AND HAVE A BEER WITH ME!!! LETS GO HAVE LUNCH! i WISH I WAS UNDER YOU RIGHT NOW... GOOD NIGTH.... EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK!!!!

The question is understandable though, because despite being older gentlemen, these ladies make us all feel a lot younger, not to mention the brightness and happiness they bring in our lives Thank You ladies A rambling from an older guy RG

Question 23 IF and when you start developing feelings for a lady companion, do you: A) Text her every single day because you miss her and because your day never feels complete without talking to her B) Start showing up at her incall unannounced so you can see her C) Drive by her incall and sit in your car and wait to see if she is seeing other clients D) Write her a love letter expressing your feelings in hopes she feels the same way E) Give yourself a headshake and take a step back to realize that, even though what you share with her is very personal and intimate, the lady has not become an SP to find friends, friends with benefits, personal lovers and/or a boyfriend and is not looking for any of the latter even if she genuinely likes you and appreciates your company.

Saw Nina this past weekend for the second time. Pretty girl, great massage technique...almost RMT. Excellent foot massage...wow. Nice attitude, very friendly and many options available for the session. I would repeat again. Thanks!

I've read many reviews and recommendation of SP that state they love to role play and have various outfits. What are the MAs thoughts on this? A massage session is ideal for teasing and setting an ambiance of excitement and arousal. Role playing is a way to add spice to this interaction and if agreeable and communicated ahead of time, they could bring an outfit for the session and change into it in the privacy of the massage room. Are there MA's who would like to try this? Is this beyond your comfort level? Am I missing something? Some possibilities I can think of are; Plaid short skirt with White blouse and thigh-high socks. String Bikini with pull tie sides and top. Lace or mesh corset with matching bottoms and stockings. Frayed jean shorts with the top button undone and mini-camisole or loose short bare-midriff top.

Dear God, I'm writing to you about some concerns I have as a turkey... it seem that in your infinite wisdom, you decided to make us fat, flightless and evidently delicious. Did we say something to make you mad? Sincerely yours, Mr. Turkey And if that joke didn't you it for you, I don't know what will...your welcome to come by ad talk abou tit ;P In Bells corners until 9 tonight 613.820.8887

Wow, that'd be awful to find yourself impersonated -- glad you were able to resolve it. My only other comment is: careful about logging into your CERB account from an SP's computer, because one of mod's tools for the site checks for different accounts logging in from the same IP address (to prevent people from doing naughty stuff with multiple accounts). So you and the SP might get a query from the mod afterward.

Many of you have probably seen Secret Diary of a Call Girl on tv. It was based upon a blog entitled Belle de Jour: Diary of a London Call Girl and two subsequent books Intimate Adventures of a London Call Girl; and The Further Adventures of a London Call Girl. The author has also published The Sex Myth under her real name Dr. Brooke Magnanti. Dr Magnanti has a PhD in Forensic Science. She worked as an escort while she was finishing her PhD thesis. There have been many discussions on cerb about discretion and whether we as sp's or clients are "out" as well as the potential complications that this business brings to the relationships of sp's and their so's. For those interested in a little weekend reading and a real life story, here's 4 articles that document this for Brooke Magnanti. I know not everyone is going to read all of these, so here's the Coles Notes. - An ex lover was going to "out" Brooke Magnanti as being Belle de Jour so she beat him to the punch by outing herself on her own terms. - Another ex lover (Morris) now claims that she wasn't an escort, in part because "he would never sleep with a prostitute" and that he's suffered damage to his career and reputation since she's identified herself as Belle. He is suing her. - Brooke Magnanti is ironically now required to defend herself in the lawsuit and show that she was in fact an escort. She has documentation to show her income, income tax statements, ads, her diary and his diary etc. She feels that her integrity as a writer has been questioned and that she's being called a liar and a fraud. - An anonymous source has leaked a portion of Morris' diary to the Secret Courtesan blog and the excerpts show that the he knew she was an escort while they were together and wasn't happy about it. - One of these articles also has a short interview with another ex lover who supports Magnanti's claim that she was an escort. - The lawsuit has not been heard yet. A previous lawsuit that the ex lover (Morris) brought against a couple of newspapers was settled in his favour. As Magnanti has pointed out that was due to errors in their reporting, not to any inaccuracy in her story. Pre-emptive Outing http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/nov/15/belle-de-jour-author-blogger-brooke-magnanti?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 Lawsuit by Ex Lover http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/jul/28/brooke-magnanti-belle-de-jour-sued-ex-boyfriend Magnanti's Response http://sexonomics-uk.blogspot.ca/2013_08_01_archive.html Copy of Ex Lover's Diary Published on The Secret Courtesan http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/diary-of-a-sad-man/

You've just had a successful encounter with a most wonderful provider who pleased you in every possible way. You would like to show her your appreciation, so you should: a ) get her name tattooed on your back and post pictures on facebook & twitter b ) send her a quick email to thank her for her time & attention, & plan a return visit when your schedule permits c ) text her "good morning beautiful" every day until your next visit

Thanksgiving is my time to shine! I'm one of those lean fellows who can eat more than seems physically possible when the meal is right. And as long as the gravy is flowing, you can pile the turkey and potatoes on. Bonus points if there is egg nog on hand. The only thing that could make it better is a piece of Cleo's pumpkin cheesecake - that sounds yummy!

We are 5 minutes drive away... http://www.lunamassagespa.com

read up on the law section. I dont think youll be bothered so long as there is other issues (drugs, violence etc) Additional Comments: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120313 Miss Meghan McCleod -- To those guys that insist on asking if I am a cop, I want you to think about your question. If I was an undercover cop, would I tell you the truth and say Yes? If I was an undercover cop and you wanted me to kill your wife for money, if you asked me if I was a cop, would I tell you the truth? No, of course not, I would lie and say I am not a cop. Touching my breasts would only give you an assault charge if she was a cop. I think you need to realize that if you are worried that your sp is a cop, dont discuss business in public, dont pick her up on the street corner or a hotel lobby. I am not a lawyer, but my understand of the law in Canada is that if you are not soliciting in public, if everything is being conducted behind closed doors in a private place, you are ok. Not sure if others are noticing an increase in these types of questions, but I just have to shake my head. Cops lie all the time, especially those that are undercover. Just incase you are wondering, no I am not a cop, I am not an undercover police officer or any other combination. I am just a sp who works alone, will never work for an agency and trying to makie some money on something I love doing. I only advertise on CERB and will never do a call in public (ie, your car is very public), or in the washroom of your local restaurant etc... Have a great day!

For me..Absolutely! I think this is normal. For almost anything you do.. even cooking for someone. I enjoy my meal more if the people I cook for enjoy it enthusiastically.

This is why I offer a discount when you book through CERB. Email then pm. No Impostors. Anyone can say they are anyone. My way they can't.

Haven't been around much lately..... but glancing at the thread here ..... a joke isn't gonna be taken as a joke by you at the moment WriteOn . I pay too!! But I feel happy and awesome and have met some really amazing ladies !! I don't remotely feel deprecated ........

Oh gosh...I'm having a very intimate encounter with another spirit..not a blow up doll. I'm so into my partners vibes...but that's me..My pleasure I hope is all her's too. It turns me off to be.. just.. moving through the motions. Oceans of emotions..rivers of LOVE!

This is a wonderful lady. She tunes in to what you like and want and delivers. She is an excellent GFE, engaging conversationalist and is the furthest thing from a clock watcher. Her oral skills are wonderful and tastes great too. I have had two, 2 hr appt's with her in 3 weeks and will see her again. No drama, so relaxed and sexy. Role play had me so turned on, the releases were magnificent. A diamond in the rough, and a pierced tongue!

Totally agree it's a lot more fun when you're both into it. I guess that's why I'm not a trio kinda guy, I like that 1-on-1

I know the difference and disagree. I think you misunderstood my post. Additional Comments: It's been done, and after the first customer is done, the lady is free to use it for other customers. I'm obviously talking to a brick wall here so I won't bother anymore.

You couldn't have read the FAQ's at all Here is the appropriate line from the first question with the appropriate word highlighted for you "I love to meet a gentleman in the comfort of his suite in an upscale hotel" If it is his suite in an upscale hotel who do you think books the hotel room. If the lady booked the suite it would be her hotel room Or do you think a lady should use her credit card to reserve a client a room? RG

I gotta believe that 99% of men want to please the woman they're with. I'm sure there are some very selfish guys who don't care but I have to believe it's a small minority (maybe > 1%). It's a turn off for me if I think they are faking being turned on. In the end I can still orgasm though :)

To the original poster. I'm thinking he does not want to go to a MP but wants a sensual massage followed by a happy ending of choice. No monkey business, no wink wink or maybies LOL Why not just contact Winnipeg's many SP's and tell then you are only interested in a rub and tub? Here's a little list just to get you started: Shannon Soleil Angelina Develin Kaylee Kisses Zoe Zee Spinderella Homework assignment to the original poster. Contact 3 from the above list, visit them and come back to us with a full report. :)