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Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa Christmas Social will be held Thursday, December 12th, so mark your calendar!! We are opening the Christmas festivities for 70 members in good standing (35 gents and 35 ladies). Loneskater and I have taken all the comments the attendees have made during the last social to keep improving these events! We are also be holding the festivities at a new venue. Gents, tickets are available at a cost of $35 (payable in person or e-mail money transfer), which will cover snacks, a drink for the ladies and door prizes. You will be kept updated via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by and for the CERB community, please contact myself or Loneskater directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

It actually does happen in a lot of other cities, however with the Maritimes (Including NFLD) being much smaller in comparison population wise - the amount of BS this year alone is worse than in any other place (see for once Im not bashing just Moncton :) The real problem behind all of this; is jealousy. What most fail to recognize is some of these new to the scene ladies (and some more experienced ones) are far from nice when it comes to other women. (don't get me wrong they will be sweet as pie when it comes to a client) They see any other women who is successful as a threat and resort to childish and immature behaviour ie: fake booking form bookings, endless emails or fake texts as well as slanderous ads on other sites. Dealing with all of these things take up ones time that could be better spent doing many other things. This has been going on for a long while, however as of late it has been getting worse(and not just in the Maritimes). The end result will just mean less reputable ladies visit these cities. It is very expensive to tour, and it is hard enough to stay safe without some crazy causing problems. I know Victoria well enough, to know that if she felt she had to post about this issue publicly - the BS was bad and I don't blame her for not wanting to visit again.

these tips will most likely apply to other ladies as well When Kissing... 1) do not slobber all over the ladies mouth 2) do not make the lady feel as though she is being sucked into your mouth follow these tips and kissing will be even hotter than ever!

Actually, I think it's more of a problem of wrong and fatal business mindset, and it brings down businesses in many industries outside our own. In business, you can't afford to delude yourself. You have to be honest with yourself about your failings, your strengths, and your realities. When you start looking for excuses, "sour grapes," or focusing more on causing others to fail than your own success, you're seriously screwed. I have had SPs say to me that they think business is slow because there are too many SPs of our type competing for the same business. What I heard was, "if customers have a choice, they'll choose someone else. Business is best for us if they don't have any choice." I do NOT like the sounds of that! I like to think that someone chooses to see me for me, and in that case, it really wouldn't matter how many other choices he has. I also think it's healthy for guys I see regularly to enjoy some variety (and I'm pretty sure most do). I would prefer to think that someone decides to come visit me on the basis of his great memories from last time, rather than because he's stuck in a rut. But this is a type of mindset error that's made at much greater levels than us little old SPs. Look at the GM industry. They've been so focused on people stealing their seeds--and surely, some are. But too, how bright or responsible was it for them to release the technology into the field before they could control its ability to contaminate naturally evolved or cultivated species? And they're so rabid in their fight against labeling in the US and Canada--as if Americans and Canadians are all that health conscious in their choices. They deploy their shills across social networking to dismiss anyone who expresses even the most reasonable concerns about GMOs as luddites who'd rather see people starve. They're so focused on a noisy bunch of organic extremists that they've projected a Darth-Vader like image of themselves in fighting back, and that has done a great job of scaring the rest of us. Or at least making us wonder. I'm a great believer in do what you love and do it with love. Focus on those you attract and don't worry about anyone else. Be authentic. Never blame. Look in the mirror often. Put all your effort into achieving a better outcome for yourself, and if you ever put any effort into someone else's outcome, stay on the light side and help them. Any attempt to inflict injury on others is cancer, and it will grow and eat you alive.

As I travel just a wee bit I have a few, and they are not what your probably expecting. North Bay - A beautiful quaint city surrounded by water, lots of green space friendly people and super wonderful to relax in - in the summer, however -45 can be just as charming to view the city in - however I don't recommend it, London - It's known as the "Forest City" and boy do they have that named appropriately. There is so much green space and trees that you feel like you are in a city engulfed in a forest. Plus it is FAR enough away from the GTA that people are nice and don't drive like idiots. Saint John - It's no secret that this little gem of a city is one of my FAVOURITE places in Canada to spend time in. From the history and architectural structure of the old buildings to the real people. People will say hello to you on the street with a smile and a short walk down Prince William street makes you feel like you are back in 1800's as you gaze at the buildings. Again another green city with ample trees and green space. Only downside is the excessive fog when one wishes to keep their travel plans. Bathurst - Still enchanted with this city. I have only had the chance to visit once, however It's definitely on the list to revisit. It is so beautiful to see the water from the downtown (the view goes on for miles). More stunning New Brunswick greenery and very kind people. Apparently the winter time is just as amazing as the summer so this I cant wait to check out.

Ohhhh! Well I think I will have to come too this time... hey Anna, think we could convince our friend Bella to come? Now that would be fun :D

That happened to me too a few years ago and since then, I appreciate the envelop at the beginning of the encounter. There is no way I ever want to hear again, while on his way out, "how much do I owe you?" ... tell him the cost for 2 hours-after confirming via email prior--can you say awkward?-- and dealing with the fact that the "gentleman" didn't even have close to what he owed me on him OR have a new client say "sorry, I left the envelop at home or at the office, can I come back to pay tomorrow?" and you guessed it, he becomes the best disappearing act you have ever seen! Under the circumstances, being trusting with a new client or with someone you haven't established a comfortable level of trust with is, unfortunately, not to a lady's advantage and by not receiving payment upfront, it is automatically putting the lady companion in a most vulnerable and precarious situation. On top of this, if you know the lady requires her donation upfront and you decide to show up and refuse to pay upon arrival and when she reminds you of the "let's get he business aspect out of the way first so we can forget about it" and you decide to leave because of it, you have just become a major waste of time on a power trip! Things like this are not up for negotiation. It is what it is because ladies do not want to get taken advantage of. Period. Nothing more, nothing less.

Honestly ... if it weren't for wonderful ladies like Emily, Victoria, Keissy and the other reliable touring ladies who provide timely responses to reference requests, I wouldn't tour either!! We have to look out for eachother, and I would be lost without them. Thanks ladies for being so helpful ;)

I'm in and I can make it !

Busted! I'm so lazy about advertising. (That number doesn't take text messages, though. The NSA might get them, but I don't. They just go off in space.) Yep! Me too. You'd think I'd be less nervous, but on first encounters, even after all these years, I'm a basket case. But by the end of the session, I'm relaxed. (And usually ready for a nap!) Oh, the visuals! I think maybe you shouldn't take it personally. I didn't mean that you should never initiate any exchange with an SP unless and until you're ready to book. Just be genuine. If you're just passing time or looking to get to know someone better, don't act like you're trying to set up an appointment that you probably wont keep keep. You wouldn't believe how many guys do that. But then, I suspect, that's not your style. (Cheez Whiz? No. ... NO.)

The arguments I have read so far (just skimmed the thread) about not paying ahead of time are ludicrous. Why on earth would I ever trust someone I had never met before to follow thru at the end our our encounter. I would be on edge, anxious and not a heck of a lot of fun; but hey, if that gets you off, guess it's another story!

I lol'ed. Thanks for that, it may be a bit of schadenfreude, but I'm glad to see we're not the only city with these problems. I'll address the gents first. Guys, this isn't a random plea, I've only met VJ once, but she didn't seem like the type to lament for no reason. If she's posting here she's serious. If you want to keep having great touring ladies visit your cities, you need to start showing up and keeping your appointments. If you don't think she's serious please note that VJ (and many others) no longer tour Moncton because the problem was more prevalent there. To the ladies who are attempting to damage her reputation. Realize that you're also hurting yourselves. You're assuming that if you get people to believe your lies you will keep your entire local market to yourselves. This may be true in a sense, but not in the way you think. If the touring ladies stop coming, a good portion of your customer base will simply disappear. I'll take myself as an example. As fewer and fewer ladies came to Moncton, I more or less stopped hobbying (with a few notable exceptions). The money I spent per year on hobbying went towards other things because I lost interest in the hobby itself. Variety is the spice of life and a large variety of SPs means a more active and vibrant user base. Short term damaging an SPs reputation may seem like a good idea, but ultimately you're hurting everyone, including yourself. To VJ, in the end this is a business for you and so you need to make the best business decisions and the decisions which you personally feel most comfortable with. If that means you no longer come to the Maritimes, then I'm sure a number of gents would be disappointed. Unfortunately there's no way to stop bitter/jealous people from being bitter and jealous, so I don't know what the best decision for you is. Since you already don't come to Moncton anymore all I can do is wish you well and hope that I eventually can make one of your legendary Libero Paradiso soirées. Bon succès ma belle!

Well in 2013 my favorite cities were Ottawa and Toronto / Sauga . The scenery there was orgasmic !! There was a tall tower, a parliament building thingie, some flowers I think and Alotta boobies and bums and ......... well other stuff !!!!!!!! ;) 2014 ... Where to go ? What shall I see ? ;) Ohhhhhh I must travel lots cause I do luvvvvvvv beautiful scenery !!!! hehehe

Fake bookings are the reason I don't tour. In '05 I toured from mid July to November. I came home with $1200 more than I left with. I consistently had more than 70% no show rate and it left me with a very bitter taste in my mouth. Today I am wiser and could probably venture out but it won't be far from home. I take my hat off to the ladies who live out of suitcases and hotels. Even with solid bookings, it's hard on the body and lonely for the soul... cat

Thanks for organizing again, guys! You're awesome! One question: I assume the location will be central again? Anyways, I'm in.

New quality control testing will be required on drinks. I am up for the task but may need a new liver lol!

Victoria my sweet, I think what that other SP is doing to you and other SP's is ridiculously childish. Why does She need to worry about competition? If she was offering a service that clients enjoyed, then her service would sell itself. Instead she plays immature games to try and mess with other people. I think that letting her win, so to speak, is a bad idea. She doesn't get to bully everyone. I live here -- and I too have gotten some insane emails lately. More than usual. But I'm not going anywhere... So I just pay no mind and keep doing what I'm doing. You are an upscale, well respected SP. Keep doing your thing. The trash will fade and the pathetic will lose. Xoxo

I'm so sorry this is happening but I wouldn't let this stop me. I've gone through the same thing, although I don't travel the childishness of another girl spreading foolishness and lies can be annoying and tiring. There are some clients who'll listen and play along but even those will fall by the wayside in short time when ignored. All bad apples eventually rot and will do themselves in. Blacklist the clients that are playing along and ignore the girl, time will pay her her just dues. You are well respected, gorgeous with a reputation that stands on it's own and anyone with sense will realize what's going on, and those with sense are the only ones that matter. Please don't let this discolor your opinion of the "east" or disrupt your schedules.

I find it disturbing that an SP is trying to destroy your reputation. I hope any gentleman that hears anything negative about one SP from another will stop and ask the very important question: "Why is she telling me this?"

STOP. :) Relax and take a breath. Nothing is happening, and the cops are not setting up an elaborate surveillance upon you. Your brief tryst was a big deal for you, but the rest of the world didn't notice because it is really quite busy doing other, entirely unrelated things. Did you have a good time with during your appointment? Yes? Great. Let that memory be the thing you take from it. Now take a moment to observe your slight case of paranoia-induced fear, laugh at it quietly for a moment, then throw it away, and move on. ;) And happy Thanksgiving!

aside from the legalities of such what about the safety aspect for yourself? What if he drives away with you? How safe are outcalls when you have no address to check? sometimes being arrested isn't the worst case scenario... just sayin'

Just paid.... bwahahahahahahah. Now I have time to make up a great sick day excuse for December 13th.....

I would never ever ever ever EVAR come to this event in 100 years !!!! But if it is Thursday, December 12th, 2013 well then ya I will be there. Flight booked and stuff....seeing that I am in town may as well ... right ??? ;)

Victoria, I have not had the pleasure of meeting you yet with that said I do understand your frustration. I am thankful for the touring SP such as yourself! Its nice to see new faces. Your like a fine wine, some people cant apercaite a thing of beauty, intelligence and feel scared. This is not your fault if a SP cant provided the level of service that you give. The only way people feel good about themselves is to bring someone down or even cause frustration. this poem reminds me of you: Beloved of the rivers, beset by azure water and transparent drops, like a tree of veins your specter of dark goddess biting apples: and then awakening naked to be tattoed by the rivers, and in the wet heights your head filled the world with new dew. Water rose to your waist, You are made of wellsprings and lakes shone on your forehead. From your sources of density you drew water like vital tears and hauled the river-beds to the sand across the planetary night, crossing rough, dilated stone, breaking down on the way all the salt of geology, cutting through forests of compact walls dislodging the muscles of quartz. GO, lovely Rose- Tell her that wastes her time and me, That now she knows, When I resemble her to thee, How sweet and fair she seems to be. Tell her that's young, And shuns to have her graces spied, That hadst thou sprung In deserts where no men abide, Thou must have unrecommended died. Small is the worth Of beauty from the light retired: Bid her come forth, Suffer herself to be desired, And not blush so to be admired. Then die-that she The common fate of all things rare May read in thee; How small a part of time they share That are so wondrous sweet and fair!

I've always thought Montreal was the best city in Canada. Last year I had a chance to show an American friend around there, it was great to see it more as a tourist again. Love love love it. I'm also a fan of every place I've seen on the east coast. Want to see everything!

You guys did such a great job on the last one! I can't wait to see what you have in store for us this time around, count MW in!

Count me in, will put down the fee right away. After the success of the last one, might have to make it a bigger event.

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I am in!!!!! Can't wait :)

Wooohhooo is partay time again :)

Live porn, super hot! This is a very sexy scenario. I love to watch and be watched. I have two male clients that I feel very comfortable with one watches, one partakes;) yum. But to find a lady that works with a male, all you have to do is search there are some out there, best of luck and enjoy:)

d00d! some of these gave me freaky beetlejuice flashbacks. I'm not sure if that's got me stoked, or in store for a sleepless night ;)

Count me in please.

I'm definitely in

I am in.. How do we pay?? or when are you accepting payment?

I'm in too!...This will be my first Cerb social and I'm so looking forward to it :)

I completely agree! If this is something you want, take the time to track down the right participants and it will be mind blowing!

....into forgetfulness. There have been many thoughtful and considered responses to this thread.... I think maybe it has gotten more mileage than it deserves.... J

I'm in...but everyone knew that already, hehe

[quote name=jimmytatro;h I have thought "man I wish I had met with this girl in real life at a bar or something' date=' outside of this context" as they seem dateable (might be important to note that I am younger than or of similar age to most of the SPs). I didn't consider the whole "slap in the face" thing that may explain what happened as like I said before I immediately apologized, thanked her for her time I didn't really consider that it would have been offensive that I was openly shopping around but I would like to keep track of girls I am interested in seeing and do my research on them. This board has been super helpful though, I feel like I would have ended up kidnapped in some sort of overzealous bait and switch without some of the info I have learned here.[/quote] First jimmy tatro I am also glad you find this board...Welcome! Second I got to say..I was shaking my head at the reference of your age been close to sps not like other...you do realize this isn't plenty of fish right? To remember which girls you contacted I am sure that you can copy one of their pictures on their portfolio You didn't realize that openly shopping could be a slap on the face so we are like car..were you can kick the tire But you don't like think about paying and an escort reason you leaned toward the one that was Very friendly to the point you wish you could have met them in a bar Wow this is a full bag of chips isn't it? Realize that it is a business transaction involving intimacy....fragile and delicate on both sides If you don't wish to be treat like a dollars sign..you need to treat the lady as a lady not a product

I don't think this is much of a problem here on Cerb. The ladies here are professionals and have their reputations and their livelihood to protect. They have a vested interested in this. But if we are to be fair, we know there are a lot of ladies out there with the intent of deceiving. Just have to read the diary to know this is true. Of course the sp is looking out for her best interests and the client is looking out for his best interests. Don't think anyone is being evil here. I think the best thing guys can do is do their research and make informed choices.

I couldnt agree more with Phaedrus! If you book a reputable Sp.. Why on earth you would have problem that she doesnt deliver what you want? Of course there is always the YMMV thing.. before meeting somebody we can never guarantee somehing at 100%. If you are not sure about the service you will receive or the chemistry.. Book a shorter appointment.. If it click.. Amazing! If not, move on! Dont book her again. So if you go through the appointment and it wasnt like you expected.. You dont pay her?! You try to kiss her and.. Ohh I dont like the way you kiss so I will just leave? Doesnt make any sense.

Victoria, you are a first class lady offering a first class experience. I am sorry about your misfortunes in our city, and in fact I am appalled. You were brave to express your frustrations and I thank you for that as it is yet another reminder to us all that you and other ladies have to deal with much unnecessary nonsense. Yet you prevail for those of us who fully appreciate your visits.

So you walk into an encounter assuming you're about to be ripped off? I have to ask: if this is the case, why did you book with her in the first place? If you're going to pay anyway, why bother going to the effort of making the SP you're with worry that you're going to rip her off? What's the point? How does it make the encounter better for either of you? I have no doubt that this is true, although I suspect I'd make the same statement with a rather different emphasis.

The first thing to do is communicate well during the appointment. Maybe she's forgotten some of your favourite details. No problem; bring up the topic of the missing bits with a smile and a laugh, and guide her and the session on the course you had discussed. If you haven't established friendly, positive back-and-forth communication with your provider, then that's your first problem right there. Then again maybe there's some reason why, now that the moment is upon you both, she doesn't really feel comfortable following through. Again, communication during the session is key. Raise the subject in a friendly way to make sure she hasn't forgotten, and if she's not comfortable with X, work together to find another way to have fun that works for both of you. But ultimately, if all of your discussions to resolve the problem fail, then you need to remember that the contract between the client and provider is solely for time spent together in which things will probably happen, but there's never a guarantee. She's a human being, not a vending machine; your money gives you no claim over her body. So all of those details you discussed are requests, but there's never an ironclad guarantee they'll be fulfilled. If you ultimately aren't satisfied with a session, and your conversation with the provider hasn't resolved that to your satisfaction, then just don't go back. Chasing after your money with "but you didn't do X! Give me Y dollars back!" is crass and fruitless. And, last of all: don't compare sex work to other industries. The comparison is always misleading when it comes to these types of up-close human interactions. Your SP is not your mechanic.

I'm no lawyer but my guess, illegal. A transport truck is still a truck and a motor vehicle. I could put a windowless cap on my pickup truck, but it would still be illegal to have a date in the truck, even though there is privacy. Also a van can be windowless but again, privacy notwithstanding, seeing a lady would be considered, IMHO illegal. A motorhome, well while as a vehicle I would say no. But if parked, hooked up, and used as a home...maybe, I say maybe...the caveat, I really don't know Now the transport truck, besides imho being illegal, couple other factors to consider. First, maybe the truck belongs to the trucking company, not the driver, and the driver is using it for work (driving) His employer may frown on it being used for seeing ladies. Second, if the driver owns his own truck, it likely has a trailer hooked up. He has a contract with the company he is hauling for, and they may take a dim view of him seeing ladies in his truck with their trailer attached to his rig Anyhow, a uneducated rambling RG

Hey Cleo! It will be so great to meet you there :D Hmmm, fantastic idea about Bella. I'll have to get on the horn about that! ox, Anna

I don't see why. Sure, this won't be everyone's idea of a great time, but provided both performers and spectators are on board with what's going to happen and what the rules are, I see no reason why anyone should be uncomfortable.

Got laid ! Been awhile... Went BOOM ! YAY !!! ;)