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I wouldnt. Gifts are gifts. Thats not what pays my bills. (420 included)

Just came to read this thread for the first time and... OUCH people! Wow is all i can say to some of these responses. I used to regularly offer 15-minute encounters when I started in the industry. A lot of guys liked it as a 'quick introduction' and would book longer the next time. They NEVER made me feel cheapened or like cum dumpster. I don't offer them regularly anymore (I don't really offer anything less than an hour) because I personally prefer longer encounters - but I would never, EVER judge someone for wanting a quick release. And I definitely would never demean a woman for offering it. If you need more than 15 minutes, great! You're in a place where many ladies specialize in longer encounters. The 'full experience' so to speak. But some guys can only afford a quick bj. Or maybe their SO is watching their time so really that's all they can fit in. ANd maybe the SP needs to money to pay her rent. If it doesn't work for you, then find what works - but why in the world are people judging and saying things like 'Okay great, glad to see people don't want these encounters'. All you're doing in insulting the people who DO, and the girls who DO offer them. And you know what? I do have one regular gent who pops in when he can for a quick BJ. I like it. He walks in, I get on my knees, and I get him off. Do you think that cheapens me? If you do, I shake my head at you, seriously. I thought this site was the place to keep it to yourself if you're not saying anything nice... well judging and insulting others for their choice of encounters is doing the exact opposite.

Most won't care, as it's clear from his post what he meant and the main person-Cleo- who he was thanking knows what he means so.. I think it's sweet and very nice of him to post such a truthful and flattering post. We all make spelling boboo's but we all don't thank one another enough;) Congrats to you for popping your hobby cherry and to Cleo for making it so memorable:)

Kinda' bored here so please excuse the low grade post. Thought I would do a little research on different kinds of bathroom experiences. THE HOUDINI (also known as "The Ghost"): You know you've crapped. There is crap on the toilet paper but none in the toilet. It just up and disappeared! TEFLON: Comes out so slick, clean and easy that you don't even feel it. No trace of anything on the toilet paper, you have to look in the bowl to be sure you did it. GOOEY (also known as "The Slider"): This has the consistency of hot tar. You wipe 12 times and you still don't come clean. You end up putting toilet paper in your underpants so you don't stain them. This one leaves permanent skid marks in the toilet. SECOND THOUGHT: You're all done wiping and about to stand up when you realize it, you've got some more. THE ELVIS: This is what killed the King. It doesn't want to come out until you're all sweaty, trembling, and purple from straining so hard. Try not to leave bite marks on the door. WEIGHT WATCHERS: You drop so much you loose several kilograms. RIGHT NOW: You better be within 30 seconds of a toilet. You burn rubber getting there. Take small steps & clench tightly. Usually, it has its head out before you get your pants down. KING KONG: This one is so big that you know it won't go down the toilet unless you break it into smaller chunks. Yelling at it won't do any good. A wire coat hanger works well, so carry one at all times. This one usually happens at someone else's house. CORK (Also known as "The Floater"): Even after the third flush, it's still floating in the bowl. My god. How do I get rid of it ?? WETNESS: Hits the water sideways and makes a big splash that gets you all wet. Loads of laughs! WISH: You sit there all cramped up for several minutes, but no deal. CEMENT BLOCK: You wish that you'd gotten a spinal block before you tried passing that nasty bugger. SNAKE: This one is fairly soft, about as thick as your thumb, and at least three feet long. THE MEXICAN (Also called "The Screamer"): You know it's okay to eat again when your pucker stops burning. BEER AND MEAT PIE: This happens the day after the night before. Normally the doo don't smell too bad, but this one is BAD!!. Usually this happens at someone else's house and there is someone standing outside the door waiting to use the bathroom. *Note: This one is my favourite. I dropped one of these at work. I was washing my hands while the next guy came in & used the same cubicle. He closed the door, only to have to do an emergency evacuation 2 seconds later. Instant gratification.

Personally, I don't like them much. I prefer to be able to put an introductory email together on my own, and to arrange it and add bits as I see fit. The form seems... impersonal. I hear what you say about not getting the information you want, or just getting one-line mails, but.... you could always use that as screening :) I believe many ladies do.

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After popin my "hobby cherry" today with the amazing....tantalizing.......shit come on who am I kidding there are no words to describe you Cleo. I got to thinking what other gentlemen's thought where on that feellings and thoughts right before....than on that ride home? my rec will be posted soon about today....I do not mean as far as over all experience. I just mean for all the guys who where like I "was" and a "virgin hobbiest". THANK YOU CERB. YOU HAVE SAVED ME!!!!!!!

I do think that if a lady is open to it, she'll mention it on her site, or you could purrhaps work something out once you know each other. I do know of a girl who once worked out a 'trade' with a personal trainer. But unless she brings it up, I think it is simply another form of negotiation and I think we all know how girls tend to feel about that :whipping:

I'm seeking services from a companion, not looking to trade services with her.

Mmmm I love the sounds of that.... Nothing better than sitting on a Fine Gentlemens face and letting him please me over and over again I also love 69, it turns me on more when Im pleasuring my man as he is pleasuring me

I'm 'out' about being an escort in my personal life. When I meet new people, I test the waters before I tell them but I don't hesitate overly long. The issue I often face when meeting new people is something along the following. They say, "it's alright that you're an escort, but... your clients... aren't they kind of gross? Isn't it nasty to have to do things you don't want to do with people you aren't attracted to, or who are dirty?" I'm always really amazed that people say those sorts of things. I adore my clients, and I'm lucky to have had very positive experiences. They ask me lots of mean questions (i.e. about hygiene, weight, appearance, STIs, etc) as if this were a reason to stigmatize, or dislike, not my job as an escort, but rather the clients that seek my services... Ewwww seems to be their reaction. So I've done a few things to 'humanize' clients in the minds of the people I meet. I usually say, "Do you like your dad, brother, uncle, cousin?" "Well, of course", they say. "He's probably my most typical client", I respond. They are shocked. I say other things too, of course, but that's usually where I start... My question is for the clients on the board, if you could say anything to the people I talk to, what would you want to say about yourself? While I'm really good at defending my clients in these situations, I'm curious to see what other people would say if they could be open about their involvement on CERB.

How do you feel about completing a booking form for initial contact with a provider? I find I'm asking the same questions repeatedly of gentlemen who fail to provide basic information with their initial contact, like their location, and I thought I might add a basic booking form to my website. For example, I post seven locations and get emails like "lets get together". I'm trying to reduce the volume of emails while at the same time obtain all the necessary information I require. Are you less likely to book, more likely to book, or indifferent to the process? Basic questions asked would be first name, email, location, preferred date, preferred time of day, and duration of encounter. Really appreciate your input cerbites, this will help me provide a better service and more prompt responses to inquiries.

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Years ago, as a young woman in my 20s, I was standing in the packing area at a drop zone, talking to some people I didn't know. One person noted that I had a pager (we didn't have cell phones way back when), and asked me what I did for a living that I needed to carry a pager. I replied that I was a call girl. Everybody laughed and wanted to know what I really did. So I said I was an obstetrician and I was on-call. They readily bought that. Another time, a jumper's wife made a rare visit to the DZ one weekend, and was talking with us girls. At some point, we found ourselves alone and she had questions about E, another jumper. Her husband had told her that there was a prostitute jumping at the DZ, and she assumed it was E. E did her hair and applied make-up in the morning at the DZ. E wore sexy clothing and even a sexy jumpsuit. She was flirtatious. You should have seen her face when I explained that E worked for one of the hospitals in Toronto, and I was the prostitute. No one hates the damned stigmas more than I do, but I also recognize that they protect us. I don't really look or act like what people expect a prostitute to look like or act like, except when I'm in a session. My customers don't look like what most people expect customers to look like. This allows us to walk free, with invisibility cloaks, unseen and unbothered by those who might bother us if they were able to see us. Perhaps for single customers, it's more important to be able to come out and not be negatively judged for using the services of. Most of the men I've entertained over the years have been married men, men in position of trust in the businesses or communities, and for them, complete secrecy was probably more important than feeling understood by society. We know the stigma is way wrong. And we know that stigmas often are way wrong. Isn't that good enough? Many of us have had people in our lives who knew who we were, and I think we've been able to challenge some notions on a person-by-person basis. But hey! We're up against Hollywood.

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I usually do, but the one that scared me to death was. The Conjuring. Freaky as all hell.

Some of my most arousing interludes involved watching porn. I think watching others have sex, become excited is very exciting and can certainly heighten my arousal, man on man, girl on girl, guy on girl, girl on guy, it's all good. Watching and hearing people in the midst of horniness and orgasm is super hot, to me anyways;)

Watching porn alone - you bet! Watching porn cuddled up with a special lady with her pointing to something and saying "I want you to do that with me now!" - fantastic! Having porn playing in the background during "funtime" -- no thanks, the lady is all the stimulation I need.

http://halifax.en............ca/rnr/4144697202.html Well I'm pissed, these two pictou girls have been using my pictures in their ads. Lol, they are 19 so perhaps I should be flattered, but then again it's theft!! They go by Mandylee and Ashley lee, apparently they also use many other aliases. I've been swamped with emails from men in that area alerting me to the fact that it is a pimp posting them not the girls, but again, that is hear say.

Passing out treats to all the darling little goobers and reading some threads. The wee ones have such joyous and happy looks on their faces, just priceless.

Congratulations cdncasanova! Sounds like you picked the right lady in Cleo. I had my first (and second a few days later) experience just a couple of weeks ago with EmilyJ and it was so much better than I had expected. Leading up to the event I was extremely nervous and was half expecting to come down with a case of "Limp Noodle Syndrome" during the encounter. I had already been exchanging email with Emily so she was aware of me being new to this and that I was nervous. When I arrived at her incall place she quickly made me feel at ease and the rest of the activities just fell perfectly into place. When I left I felt like doing that Lionel Richie song "Dancing on the Ceiling" and also had a big sense of relief that not only was I able to go through with it, but that I'll be doing this many many times more. So for next time, which I hope won't be too far in the future, I am expecting/hoping for a more regular level of nervousness and excitement like roamingguy said in his post.

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I did this once with a gentleman client and it was quite erotic. But it wasn't like the "on in the background" scenario as described here. It was a client from out of town who I had previously seen several times and visits when he is in Ottawa on business. We discovered that we enjoyed the same kind of porn... genuine solo female masturbation pleasure videos. Authentic non-pornstarry ladies enjoy themselves in different ways to achieve real orgasms. Stuff from quality pay websites like (for example), yanks.com, the-female-orgasm.com, abbywinters.com, ifeelmyself.com. In between appointments, we keep in contact by e-mail, and sometimes share some clips with each other that we find erotic. So one time he came to visit, we thought it would be fun to begin the session by watching a few of these videos together. He booked a couple hours, and we started like that, cuddling up close together on the bed with a laptop, caressing and massaging each other, talking and enjoying the videos. It was actually very erotic, and made me verrry excited. :) But after a few clips to warm up, the laptop went away and our full attention was on each other. I think this is different than in the "background", and of course to each their own, but I don't think I would like that. I've visited a few outcalls where the lad had the TV on in the background and I noticed a few times when I went to make eye contact during a BJ, his eyes were on the TV. Lame. It should be an an all-sensory experience and being distracted takes away from it all. So obviously, for me, I agree that all my senses are involved in the act... And I love the little things like the sounds of breathing and a soft sigh... the sound of wetness and licking, watching the pleasure on my partners face as he watches me lick his hard cock from the base to the tip... and so on. I think that "lady magazines" suggest adding porn to the mix for married folks because they already know everything there is to know about each other in bed, so it comes a time where you want to try introducing new things in the bedroom, and maybe for some, porn is one of these things to try. When visiting an SP, there is still the element of newness and excitement, so there is not often a need to "spice it up", because it's already quite spicy. Also, a concern I might have with just throwing on some generic porn in the background with a partner I don't know too well, with no real discussion about it prior, is that he might feel some kind of need to live up to whatever is going on in the porn.. and maybe feel inadequate because the guy has a massive cock, or the girl in the video is unrealistically wailing like a dying cat... while I am not the fake moan kind of gal. Also, he might get ideas from the porn about things he should do, and I am not into just continuous jack-hammering penis-in-vagina penetration, which is most of what common porn is. Boring. So, I do think it can be possible for it to be enjoyable in certain circumstances in an SP/Client encounter. If a gent has a specific fantasy of watching porn with a lady and his wife isn't interested, then why not. Also maybe for a mutual masturbation fantasy it could be hot too. Kind of off topic, but I've always has a fantasy of like a "ladies' sleepover" kind of thing... where someone puts on an erotic video and all the gals whip out some toys and masturbate together. Hot. :) hehe.

I have to agree with the rest of the ladies and gentlemen on this ... Gifts are gifts.. a way to say to someone I appreciate what we share, what you do for me.., a way of saying I like you (not just phisically) but also as a person or what ever... ah.., and how about invitations to have a drink or dinner for exchange of services... NO.., guys please dont do that... If I want something small or big I just simply go and get it.. thats why I work... and I work hard so I can buy and do what ever I want... Not saying I dont like gifts... because I love receiving gifts... 420 I coudl not care less I dont even smoke cigarrets.... Service for Service .. neither I rather go and pay someone the price or rate that they ask and deserve for their work and services... Simple... NO TRADING...

I think you should have got the idea by now the board does not permit bad things being said. Enough people that have seen her have comented that way. Hence no "positive in-depth review":icon_confused:

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Have you tried re-booting?

If there is a lady who I am interested in seeing and she has a booking form, then yes I'll fill it out. If I'm not comfortable providing personal info to her then I'm not going to be comfortable seeing her for an encounter anyway Filling out such a form aside from the usual screening/verification and booking functions also lets the lady know you are serious about seeing her and not a "tire kicker" RG

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Here's a link on previous discussion on Yoyo. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153544&highlight=yoyo

The answer is No you should not feel guilty about seeing different MAs working for the same Spa... Nor should the MA feel jealous about you seeing other ladies... I often find myself referring gentlemen that visit me to see other ladies that work with me... many here can tell you that I am very open to tell you how wonderful are the ladies I work with... we are like a family and we take care of each other as such! So go out there., have fun.. Enjoy and meet all the ladies you have interest in meeting.. we are all different and we all have something special and unique to offer you! And there is a say where I come from: VARIETY MEETS PLEASURE! Cheers :)

Originally Posted by Cleo Catra I think you're right, and I think that's why a lot of us go in circles in these discussions on here. In most cases, it seems like the women participating are not the ones the clients are talking about.... so the points never seem to get resolved, because the ladies can't seem to offer resolutions to situations they can't imagine happening. I think these discussions can be worthwhile. They can be frustrating... if you think a consensus is going to be reached or... if you think you're going to change a participant's point if view. (The internet is not the place for that lol) This particular thread has had over 7,000 views. That's far more than any other current topic. Obviously there's interest, even if only a small minority of members participate. And even if cerb only represents a small percentage of all sp's and clients, it's still our community and we're developing norms of behaviour and conduct in an underground economy/activity where it's difficult to get useful, real, respectful, healthy etc information. I look at these discussions as being similar to any public debate. The point isn't to change the mind of the other debater(s). It's to be persuasive to the audience and provoke them into thinking. This is best done when different points of view are expressed and hopefully expressed well. Hopefully these discussions are also an opportunity to share information and viewpoints that readers would not otherwise have access to, whether that's factual information, personal experience or a different perspective.

I've been to places where there was a TV playing porn. The only thing it was good for was to pass the time while I waited for the lady to come back to the room. I find it distracting (porn or just regular TV), I want all her attention on me and I want all my attention on her.

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When you claim massage therapy you basically have to follow the instructions as per you insurance company require. Most likely there is a form to fill out., also there is most likely a limit on the ammout you can claim for the massage, you filled out the form submit your official receipt. , in which information about the RMT or the massage therapist professional has to put all her information., such as business address, Name, licence number, etc... Then most likely depending you will get a cheque in the mail once they verify the claim.. or some companies also use direct deposit. ps: I would not take a chance of mixing pleasure with real therapy massage.. it is illegal.. it is fraud... From your part and from the lady if she offers you... she is also putting at risk her professional credentials.

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It's a good point -- but I think that in every case the high-profile figure is cheapened and tarnished by the association. He drops a couple of rungs down the ladder. It's just that his other obvious assets of money or power are strong enough to keep him pretty high despite this. In essence, "he's rich but suffers from a sad compulsion." More generally, and not really directed at your specific post: So why are men stigmatized in the first place when found out to be sex work clients? It's because of that central role sex has in the historical, conservative underpinnings of our culture: it's one of the primary currencies for measuring people's level of success. - Men who are accomplished are "supposed to" have easy access to sex being offered from adoring women who respond to his success and power. If he doesn't have that, then he must not be successful. And if he's paying for it, he must not have any other access to it -- there's something wrong with him. - Women are expected to hold their sex in reserve as precious currency to secure marriage. If she's spending it too freely, she's cheapened; and worse, if she's selling it, she must be desperate, like pawning irreplaceable heirlooms. These ideas look silly spelled out like that, but they really do hold powerful, often unspoken yet deeply held authority in our sexually conflicted culture. Plus, what exposure do most people have to the industry? Only the media's portrayal, which condemns it with one hand (sex! exploitation! desperation!) at the same time it uses the sexual allure to draws viewers with its titillating side ("Look at those fishnet stockings! Tsk tsk. ...mmmm..."). It's hard to blame people who have nothing else to go on. I think the thing I'd say to try to address the stigma is EXACTLY what Nathalie did so wisely in her first post: "these are the very same guys you know in your own life, and there's nothing wrong with them. It's not the clients (or SPs) that are faulty; it's your own ideas about sex and sex work."

Like many of the previous posters I am: a boss, a dad, a little league coach, an uncle, a brother, someone's significant other, a neighbor - pretty much your typical gray haired law abiding tax payer. But I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford to spend some special private time with some very special ladies. This is a complete secret from absolutely everyone except the ladies I see. Part of the allure is that it is my own secret - a part of me that is not predictable. Different than anyone would expect of me.