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JoyfulC, I understand where you're coming from, but I think the stigmatization of clients has another effect that we aren't taking into consideration here. When clients are stigmatized, and we don't fight that stigma, it can (and does) lead to their criminalization. There are lots of 'John sweeps' happening in Canada and they don't always happen in the context of outdoor/visible sex work. In Canada we seem to be moving towards a model of regulation that would criminalize the clients of sex workers, but not the sex workers themselves (known as the 'Swedish' model, because this is the system that exists in a lot of Nordik countries). It's easy to criminalize clients if society thinks they're 'gross' (etc). That's another reason why I think it's important to destigmatize clients...

I have had the pleasure to meet Clarissa on a couple of occasions and would highly recommend her. From the moment I walked into the room with her I felt welcomed and appreciated. Clarissa is a petite sexy lady with an amazing body and a desire to ensure that you enjoy every minute in her presence. Clarissa is engaging and funny and treats you like you are the only man in the world. It is very obvious that she know what she is doing and enjoys her time with you. I guarantee you that once you have met her you will want to see her again.

Considering the recent discussions here on CERB about fat/skinny body shaming, I wanted to share this amazing website that I came across today! "The Nu Project is a series of honest nudes of women from all over the world. The project began in 2005 and has stayed true to the original vision: no professional models, minimal makeup and no glamour. The focus of the project has been and continues to be the subjects and their personalities, spaces, insecurities and quirks." It is quite a remarkable collection of photographs of a wide variety of real women. It is a showcases and celebrates the beauty in ALL women's bodies, in their natural state. All unique and beautiful in their own way! :) www.thenuproject.com Enjoy!

I think this is an appropriate thread to share this on... Now, I enjoy looking at pictures of women as much as the next person (as anyone who follows the various image threads probably knows!) but it's good every so often to have a reminder about what is sometimes taking place with those images, especially in popular media. A lot of us have probably seen similar stories, but this 1 minute video really drives home the manipulation happening to showcase a particular (and near unattainable) idealized view of the female body, and the importance of reminding oneself of the variety of real beauty out there. http://www.upworthy.com/see-why-we-have-an-absolutely-ridiculous-standard-of-beauty-in-just-37-seconds

Just came to read this thread for the first time and... OUCH people! Wow is all i can say to some of these responses. I used to regularly offer 15-minute encounters when I started in the industry. A lot of guys liked it as a 'quick introduction' and would book longer the next time. They NEVER made me feel cheapened or like cum dumpster. I don't offer them regularly anymore (I don't really offer anything less than an hour) because I personally prefer longer encounters - but I would never, EVER judge someone for wanting a quick release. And I definitely would never demean a woman for offering it. If you need more than 15 minutes, great! You're in a place where many ladies specialize in longer encounters. The 'full experience' so to speak. But some guys can only afford a quick bj. Or maybe their SO is watching their time so really that's all they can fit in. ANd maybe the SP needs to money to pay her rent. If it doesn't work for you, then find what works - but why in the world are people judging and saying things like 'Okay great, glad to see people don't want these encounters'. All you're doing in insulting the people who DO, and the girls who DO offer them. And you know what? I do have one regular gent who pops in when he can for a quick BJ. I like it. He walks in, I get on my knees, and I get him off. Do you think that cheapens me? If you do, I shake my head at you, seriously. I thought this site was the place to keep it to yourself if you're not saying anything nice... well judging and insulting others for their choice of encounters is doing the exact opposite.

Not a surprising resolution, given what the throne speech had. Point 3), as stated, as elements of what the socialist party in France seems to be proposing, re. Targeting clients.

It's one thing to frame a resolution during a party convention, and quite another to actually create and enact legislation. My thinking is that nothing will happen until the court proceedings are over with, and even then I am not sure this will be a major policy priority. With all the other scandals and fires burning, I can't see this being front-and-centre for the Cons. I've been known to be wrong, though.

I did it all.... masturbated, snuggled with dogs, listen to my fav CD, did something good for another person, cried then had a tea:) Now glass of Pinot Girgio:) Thanks everyone, your so awesome!!!

Take a deep breath..and sit back.. take a break have some -me- time. Crying Feeling the blues.. is not a sign of weakness, sometimes it is a sign that you have been trying to be strong for too long.

It's taken a long time, and I still have some work to do, but learning to say "no" has saved me much time, money and aggravation: No, I won't help you paint your house No, I won't help you move No, you can't borrow $50 No, my schedule is full, I can't take on any new projects No, I do not want to mega-size my order No, I don't want to help a Nigerian prince with his $300 million inheritance No, those pants do not make you look fat No, don't stop!

I am most passionate about helping others when and where I can! Volunteering gives me great joy and I would say that is my number one passion. Nothing makes my life more fulfilling than helping others! I volunteer a lot with organizations dedicated to brain injury survivors, and when I meet each new person who is living with a brain injury whether traumatic or acquired, it reminds me to be grateful for my own life, family, and friends. Excellent topic! Xoxo

It is an event where the best to wear is what you are comfortable with... There is no such a thing as dress Code... just come have fun and enjoy a great time with friends that is what really matters :)

I too used to have a problem saying no, but after being used over and over, I have come to the realization that saying no isn't a bad thing. Not everyone is worthy or deserving of aide so I pick and choose who I give to more carefully. As far as refusing a client, if I have to for my own good then I don't feel bad, but if I have to refuse a client because I don't have an opening or time, I do feel bad. But we all have to do what we must:)

This, according to a combination of observed data and mathematical simulation, is the structure of matter in our universe -- the way mass is distributed throughout space on the very, very large scale. It's not uniform and boring; instead it's made up of unthinkably enormous filaments and clumps: This isn't a picture of the whole universe, just the small fraction that the project was able to work on and simulate. And each of those individual pixels of light? they're not stars. Each one is a GALAXY.

Please excuse my tardy response....was with my little one. I will post a real rec later tonight when I have more time....because...welll y'all gotta a wait....lol....and for all the English teachers in the room....I don't care cause my brains are still scrambled. .....and toes curled. ......(Cleo knows for anyone feeling like asking) never felt more alive and ready to contribute more to this group. Who doesn't love a girl who likes challenges... (wink...wink):-) Happy Halloween everyone......best ever for me! Additional Comments: I couldn't leave without giving a big high five to the other one for the healthy push and recommendation. Thanks again RNH Additional Comments: FUKN RGHT Cleo for Prime Minister.....

Most won't care, as it's clear from his post what he meant and the main person-Cleo- who he was thanking knows what he means so.. I think it's sweet and very nice of him to post such a truthful and flattering post. We all make spelling boboo's but we all don't thank one another enough;) Congrats to you for popping your hobby cherry and to Cleo for making it so memorable:)

Well for me gitters (or nervousness, excitement, heart pounding whatever adjectives you want to use) are all part of an encounter. If I felt no nervousness and excitement, well frankly whats the point Whether for a first time encounter or seeing a lady who is a friend for a repeat encounter I'm always excited and nervous, my hearts pounding The day that doesn't happen for me is the day I no longer see companions thats all part of encounters RG

Years ago, as a young woman in my 20s, I was standing in the packing area at a drop zone, talking to some people I didn't know. One person noted that I had a pager (we didn't have cell phones way back when), and asked me what I did for a living that I needed to carry a pager. I replied that I was a call girl. Everybody laughed and wanted to know what I really did. So I said I was an obstetrician and I was on-call. They readily bought that. Another time, a jumper's wife made a rare visit to the DZ one weekend, and was talking with us girls. At some point, we found ourselves alone and she had questions about E, another jumper. Her husband had told her that there was a prostitute jumping at the DZ, and she assumed it was E. E did her hair and applied make-up in the morning at the DZ. E wore sexy clothing and even a sexy jumpsuit. She was flirtatious. You should have seen her face when I explained that E worked for one of the hospitals in Toronto, and I was the prostitute. No one hates the damned stigmas more than I do, but I also recognize that they protect us. I don't really look or act like what people expect a prostitute to look like or act like, except when I'm in a session. My customers don't look like what most people expect customers to look like. This allows us to walk free, with invisibility cloaks, unseen and unbothered by those who might bother us if they were able to see us. Perhaps for single customers, it's more important to be able to come out and not be negatively judged for using the services of. Most of the men I've entertained over the years have been married men, men in position of trust in the businesses or communities, and for them, complete secrecy was probably more important than feeling understood by society. We know the stigma is way wrong. And we know that stigmas often are way wrong. Isn't that good enough? Many of us have had people in our lives who knew who we were, and I think we've been able to challenge some notions on a person-by-person basis. But hey! We're up against Hollywood.

Happy Birthday theliquor, hope you enjoy your day!

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY xo

Haven't been able to get in during recent weeks so reports on the current situation are always appreciated. I've lost track of whether Jenny has been in lately or is on a break. Any info re recent Jenny sightings always appreciated. Hope to get in sometime next week. Looking forward to your report if you are able to drop in Sat. pagypie.

A witch appears to be screaming out into space in this new image of the Witch Head nebula from NASA's Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, released on Halloween:

Happy Birthday To You! Have a great day . xo

Happy Birthday Love!!!! I hope you have a very sexy day Hope to see you soon xxo

Saying No? I have no problem with this - if I don't want to see someone (for what ever reason), I will let them know. Of course, I will be nice about it, but I will decline if I want to. Good grief, if we accepted every invitation that came our way, what would that say about ourselves? In my personal life, I've gotten good at saying no. I feel stronger and more confident being able to stand up for myself and say No. There are those that will consider me a BE YATCH, but that's ok with me. I am the one that lives with myself at the end of the day.

There are a few things/activities thats can be perceives as hobbies rather than passions. But what can make the difference is how much time and/or cash you have *invested*, then it becomes a passion. Some can be regarded as mundane or even geeky.. lol so: -Wine making: my first crush was in 1993 made 6 cases of red wine, at the height of my production (circa .2000) I crushed and filled 225lts barrels of red and white. -coin collecting -motor oil - If you are a member of BITOG.. then you understand.. LOL -photography -I've had a camera around my neck since grade 7 -woodworking -small projects, furniture/cabinetry or even decks. oh and the kitchen belongs to me... ;-)

Happy B-Day, keep on keeping on!

Happy Birthday theliquor have a good one

I think 2 chicks and 1 dick is more fun than 2 dicks and 1 chick.

Wishing you a very Happy Birthday!

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I get the feeling that this gal is hard to get together with. Anyone at all have any success yet? I'm getting such a boner loooking at her pics... I feel a trip into the city may be in the works for me soon.

Holy crap! Those VHS tapes must be worn completely through! ;)

Congratulations cdncasanova! Sounds like you picked the right lady in Cleo. I had my first (and second a few days later) experience just a couple of weeks ago with EmilyJ and it was so much better than I had expected. Leading up to the event I was extremely nervous and was half expecting to come down with a case of "Limp Noodle Syndrome" during the encounter. I had already been exchanging email with Emily so she was aware of me being new to this and that I was nervous. When I arrived at her incall place she quickly made me feel at ease and the rest of the activities just fell perfectly into place. When I left I felt like doing that Lionel Richie song "Dancing on the Ceiling" and also had a big sense of relief that not only was I able to go through with it, but that I'll be doing this many many times more. So for next time, which I hope won't be too far in the future, I am expecting/hoping for a more regular level of nervousness and excitement like roamingguy said in his post.

Do to the rules of this board I can't comment on someones inability to give a decent (being nice) massage, so I'd suggest you give her a try for yourself... If you feel generous bring her a gift (maybe some clean sheets). Search the name "Shannon" (in wpg) for a truly relaxing and enjoyable experience. Hope I didn't break any rules.

cut the man some slack, he just popped his cherry. Casanova you need to get the proper spelling, I know you are excited but these members will not let this go un noticed.

Testing 123 Testing Yes, Brad, that fixed it - thanks so much! Thanks Jabba - I did re-boot, but that didn't fix it. Cerb is the best - Happy Halloween!

I am not outcall only. I found the number of no shows and or fake bookings I was receiving to cost me a significant enough amount of time and cash that I was no longer interested in maintaining the financial burden of a 4 star hotel several times a week. Having damaged credit from the past leaves me stuck paying with cash. The cash deposit alone to book a 4 star hotel ranges from 100-250. I can't prebook with credit card for discounted room rates, so am left paying 159-209 on average per night. So coughing up nearly 500 a night to host from hotel incall and having multiple no shows or missed appointments is not My alternatives to outcalls are that the gentlemen consider booking the room for the length of encounter. Provided we have spoken and agreed upon it,I sometimes will split the cost of the room and the gentlemen need only to check out of room once I have left. Is the best I can do at this time

This is a close-up of the hairs that make up the suction pad on the end of a beetle's leg. One of the winners of this year's Nikon-sponsored photomicography competition. You can see the rest of the winners here; they're worth a look.

Her pics are real, but she's not that young. I can not recommend based on my experience.

No worries PM sent.

I agree with that statement. See: "irony". Also, call the above "Quote A". I think people have been saying that the women on CERB are a better-known quantity, that's all. In particular, the ladies here are active amongst a persistent public community and you have a chance to get to know them over time from their posting history and forum interactions. It's a rather long stretch to get from there to "GOOD vs. BAD" which, though I'm not going to read through the whole thread again, I don't think anybody has actually said (except you, there, just now). I don't have a problem with people seeking specific services. I do that sometimes myself. There's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing a specific desire in advance. The dispute centers around how one responds when the provider expresses, for any of a thousand possible reasons that may be important to her at the time, a disinclination to perform some intimate act with you once the session is underway. And THERE's the problem. The SP always has final discretion in the intimate service she chooses to provide. And you cannot know the SPs mind, or what might be compelling for her at a given moment or in a given situation. And yet look at your sweeping statements I've bolded above. Now, go back and read "Quote A". Yeah.

It's a good point -- but I think that in every case the high-profile figure is cheapened and tarnished by the association. He drops a couple of rungs down the ladder. It's just that his other obvious assets of money or power are strong enough to keep him pretty high despite this. In essence, "he's rich but suffers from a sad compulsion." More generally, and not really directed at your specific post: So why are men stigmatized in the first place when found out to be sex work clients? It's because of that central role sex has in the historical, conservative underpinnings of our culture: it's one of the primary currencies for measuring people's level of success. - Men who are accomplished are "supposed to" have easy access to sex being offered from adoring women who respond to his success and power. If he doesn't have that, then he must not be successful. And if he's paying for it, he must not have any other access to it -- there's something wrong with him. - Women are expected to hold their sex in reserve as precious currency to secure marriage. If she's spending it too freely, she's cheapened; and worse, if she's selling it, she must be desperate, like pawning irreplaceable heirlooms. These ideas look silly spelled out like that, but they really do hold powerful, often unspoken yet deeply held authority in our sexually conflicted culture. Plus, what exposure do most people have to the industry? Only the media's portrayal, which condemns it with one hand (sex! exploitation! desperation!) at the same time it uses the sexual allure to draws viewers with its titillating side ("Look at those fishnet stockings! Tsk tsk. ...mmmm..."). It's hard to blame people who have nothing else to go on. I think the thing I'd say to try to address the stigma is EXACTLY what Nathalie did so wisely in her first post: "these are the very same guys you know in your own life, and there's nothing wrong with them. It's not the clients (or SPs) that are faulty; it's your own ideas about sex and sex work."

Im sure we can ALL relate to this. Even Men. They seem to leave men out of these campaigns supporting self esteem. Men have heart, brains, and soul too. Only I guess it's less socially acceptable for men to have 'feelings' or 'body image issues'. Either way just wanted to share this link on how self critical people can be on themselves, yet the world sees them differently. ;-) Everyone has SEXY in them ;) Giddy Up!

I think threads like this are more important than we even realize as self acceptance is first and formost in becoming a well rounded human being, hence living a healthy productive life. So if you are a parent teach your children messages like this, confidence, acceptance of themselves and others, to love because anything that is loved unconditionally will emit beauty. Share these lessons, messages and thoughts as they can never be told and seen to often. I too am a beliver in the power of the media to convolute the minds of the weak, not unlike a bully who demeans a vulnerable victim and causes them to think they are unfit as they are and need to conform to something "ideal". There is nothing more beautiful than a confident person, it truly is a persons best asset.

I think if women saw one another as men see us we may be less critical of one another. There is no one that is harder on another woman than another woman. Men don't see our flaws the way we see them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but the beholder should realize beauty comes in all shapes,sizes and colors and true beauty isn't always visible.