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I think everyone goes out sometimes. I'm not sure what let loose means but I don't think anyone prevents themselves from living because they are an SP or an MA. It's a rule that if you recognize an SP or MA while you're out and about that you don't approach them, the same goes for an SP or MA who recognizes a client out in public. We keep our distance, pretend we don't know each other, and perhaps send a PM or an e-mail to be like "Hey! I saw you!" in a not-so-creepy way ;) Alternatively, (and if more appropriate), you don't e-mail or PM at all... especially if there wasn't mutual recognition or you've never met the person privately.

Nathalie, I am surprised to learn of john sweeps in Canada not involving outdoor or public venues (such as massage parlours and strip clubs). I guess I'd better google that. I agree that it would be disastrous if the Swedish model were embraced by Canada, but I think the only thing that will defeat that, in any country, is the court. I have lost faith in the belief of destigmatization. As we see with the issue of race south of the border, no matter how hard you try to combat certain prejudices, you only succeed in driving them underground. Familiarity is the only thing that successfully defeats stigma, and if more customers were willing to be open with their families, friends and colleagues about being customers, then that might actually succeed in changing the most minds. Few customers are in a position to do that, though. Not because they fear the stigma, but because it would create serious complications. It's very hard to destigmatize a group that hides its face. For sure, when people ask me, I tell them that the only men I see are decent guys who I'm proud to know. But it's not like I can say, "For example, you know so-and-so? Well, he's my client." We can make the claim, but we can provide no evidence to back it up.

I have been known to enjoy being spanked. I also have been whipped on occasion, and liked it. Hair pulling? Yes please. HOWEVER, it depends on the mood, the moment and the individual. If I was meeting a client for the first time and he started off with this - I'd be pissed lol. S&M, even mild forms, is hugely based on mutual respect and trust. That doesn't come without effort from both sides, as well as history.

Whoaaa.. thats not exactly an accurate generalization for the rest of us locals here. I understand that this may happen sometimes, but to toss us all into that demographic is unfair and uncalled for.. jmo

I have enjoyed many of your posts. Your enthusiasm and fun shine through and your support of the lovelies here is appreciated I'm sure. I also like that you share your thoughts and advices but on occasion, you also tell it like it is. Thanks for everything, looking forward to the next 1000!

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I have, it's not for everyone.

Most of what has been said already, plus: - Old wounds have been healed through the help and support of wonderful ladies. My heart and soul are happy and open. - My understanding of women has completely changed - My understanding of what women find attractive in me also has changed - I now can appreciate and enjoy more fully women's rich erotic universe - My own erotic palette has become richer, and can now adapt more easily to various women's sexual desires - Dating is now fun and exciting! Things I still have to improve: - Be a better communicator (verbally and non-verbally): convey in a warmer, friendlier and more concise manner my feelings, desires and values - Better at organizing dates lol. Keep it simple and smooth :)

Oh well, it's done. I looked in the mirror and said , "fuck it", grabbed the clippers and went at it. LOL it's different!

I seen a couple of nights ago. I can not recommend based on my experience as I will not be repeating.

SIMPLE: When you're texting or calling an SP, you should always tell the SP what time she has until to get back to you. SD

I agree with you Cat. Trafficking laws, and most major proponents of such legislation and related campaigns, including NGOs aiming to eliminate trafficking, end up reinforcing stigma, silencing and violence against migrant workers, and not just limited to sex workers.... Rarely are such efforts aimed at deconstructing or bringing redress to poverty, or unevenly enforced border control measures. We should be suspicious that, to date, very few countries, for example allow for sexual labourers who have been picked up , detained and questioned in such sweeps to actually apply for a visa to stay in that given country. Countries such as Italy are one of the few exceptions. As it stands, international protocols governing trafficking allow for only two options when a worker has been identified as trafficked (a determination often made against the will of these global citizens); you are either a victim or a criminal. And, once you have provided your information, you are then of little value to authorities (and researchers) and are swiftly deported. This provides no meaningful way for those who are being harmed, or who seek protections, including under the law, to meaningfully report their concerns to authorities or even access supportive services. It should be added that these problems are made possible through a whole variety of laws, including, by the way, under what has been often termed the 'stripper visa' policy aimed largely at women seeking to tour as exotic dancers in Canada", and are no longer able to as they are being denied working visas which were previously being granted....of course, driving the truly problematic situations further underground, and making illegals out of workers trying to make a living. Such a law, while purportedly aimed at helping to eliminate the trafficking of women and girls, and deceitful fronts for prostitution, actually does nothing helpful in terms of any of this...more sensationalism, more patronizing policies that do nothing to accord voice, dignity, labour and human rights to those affected. I also agree with mistert, in that, we will have to see how the current legal challenges pan out to know what the implications are. For example, if the 'prostitution' laws currently under scrutiny are struck down by the highest Court (i.e. the Supreme Court of Canada, which is binding) and, in the process, sex workers consequentially have a foothold to access human and labour rights and Constitutional recognition, then there will be some clout to wield at the policy level in terms of redefining trafficking policy, including definitions of what constitutes trafficking, who would be considered to be a trafficked person, and what options would then be available to those caught up in this net. There is also a continuum in relation to sex work and trafficking that exists that muddies the waters, in that; 1) some people are genuinely forced against their will, or tricked into migrating to a country under false pretenses; 2) some are indentured workers who know they will be doing sex work and are under obligation to repay a specific fee for being able to secure their entry into a given country, often with their passports being held or some other power play to guarantee they will comply ( ...problematic, yes, and ultimately a practice supported by oppressive legislation such as that discussed above). In such cases, the progressive sex work literature and many labour activists attest to the fact that many of these workers (not just women I might add) would still choose this situation over remaining in their countries of origin as they are seeking mobility and increased economic opportunities, and to be reunited with family members/loved ones). Due to personal resourcefulness , the assistance of organizations and sometimes even clients, workers are often able to manage transitioning into a less controlled working situation...And, with a more empowering and redefined trafficking policy scope, this has the potential to improve the odds for folks significantly; 3) some of these people are straight up travelling sex workers, quite informed and largely mobile (however undercover and trickily navigated) who have entered countries to work and make money, and still face the threat of being picked up in these sweeps and being made subject to such laws, regardless of the fact that what they are doing...how they see what they are doing....as sex work...as real work that has meaningful purchase in their lives; and, 4) there are those whose personal circumstances have the potential to cut across more than one, or even all of these categories and realms of experience; who may, in fact, have experienced circumstances of profound coercion, or perhaps, indenturement, but who move into other circumstances, including in making a more empowered choice to participate in some form of sex work. (On the last point) This is not uncommon at all...just like it is not uncommon for sex workers who may have always been in the country, and who may have worked in a more marginalized venue, to then have their circumstances change and engage the opportunity to work in another venue. In the course of my community activism, I've been privy to many stories such as this...And, in the case of grassroots activism by labourers who would outright identify as being trafficked at some point (e.g. see the film "Tales of the night fairies"), there is a strong contingent of those who go on to assert, regardless of potential continued marginalization, that 'yes, "I am now a sex worker" who makes choices every day to continue to participate in the industry'. The understanding that "money talks and bullshit walks" carries great currency in the lives of those who engage in erotic labour and who continue to be patronized and harmed by such oppressive measures and attitudes. Of course, in such hopefulness for some structural policy changes or a favorable court ruling, it's important not to get romantic about the system...the current political party system, the courts or legislature... international governance practices, as they have been powerful forces in securing the oppression and economic disadvantage of so many historically oppressed communities...not to mention gross platforms for politicians to self-ingratiate themselves in the media...while, of course, having no meaningful vested interest or concern for the health and human rights of those they speak for, including sex working citizens....wherever a given worker sits on the continuum. As I heard former Executive Director of Maggie's in Toronto recently state at a sex work conference: 'so long as we have difficulty making a connection between the worker who has parted from their own family to come to this country to take care of the children of some affluent couple; the agricultural worker who has lost their ability to farm back home and is now stuck in a compound picking the potatoes we eat every day; and the lived reality of a sex worker, we will collectively remain the self-fulfilling subjects of our own ignorance' (Keisha Scott, indirect, condensed quote). We cannot afford to do this.

The one major stereotype that I had about this lifestyle was completely wrong...that seeing companions was just about anonymous sexual encounters. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact some ladies don't just know my personal information needed for verification/screening, a couple know even more more Trust issues, the majority of ladies I see I trust, a couple I completely trust without reservation. To put in perspective I work in a law enforcement field (and isn't everyone in law enforcement supposed to be trustworthy and above reproach?). I find the ladies I see FAR MORE trustworthy than the vast majority of people I work with Definitely with the caveat that ALWAYS respect a lady's boundaries, but when I began in this lifestyle, I never thought a SP/Client could be friends. I thought that the relationship despite it's intimate nature stayed professional. What a pleasant surprise that in some cases friendships can develop, friendships as important as those in "civilian" life. And encounters are far more than just about sex. I personally like longer encounters, it has allowed dates to have time for a social, conversation, connection time. And it has made sex more enjoyable, being intimate with a woman you have spent time getting to know and she know you. This lifestyle has me involved in the most honest, healthy, meaningful and upfront relations I have had with women with no strings, no guilt and no drama A quick rambling RG

JoyfulC, I understand where you're coming from, but I think the stigmatization of clients has another effect that we aren't taking into consideration here. When clients are stigmatized, and we don't fight that stigma, it can (and does) lead to their criminalization. There are lots of 'John sweeps' happening in Canada and they don't always happen in the context of outdoor/visible sex work. In Canada we seem to be moving towards a model of regulation that would criminalize the clients of sex workers, but not the sex workers themselves (known as the 'Swedish' model, because this is the system that exists in a lot of Nordik countries). It's easy to criminalize clients if society thinks they're 'gross' (etc). That's another reason why I think it's important to destigmatize clients...

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Congratulations Loneskater on reaching 1000 posts...now the number matches your age! LMAO :D

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Congrats Loneskater on your first 1000 post, keep up the good work!

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Congrats on your milestone Loneskater! Your contributions are appreciated! Keep posting!

Omg.. I love Don. :) hehe. I had a crazy sexy erotic dream about him a few months ago, lol. Yummy. The first episode I watched... I was going crazy trying to figure out where I recognized him from... He was in the teen movie from the year 2000, "Loser" lol... He was kind of an asshole in it, but I had the major hots for him then too.

To one of the hard working and great friend congrats loneskater on youre 1000 post and hope there is much more to come and keep up the good work that you do. Thanks

Congrats Love Keep them coming :) Stay Sexy xxo

I mentioned Gene Kelly in another thread, made me remember this amazing VW ad featuring him: My other favourite ads are BABIES EVERYWHERE!!! And 'Johnny? Oh HEY MAN!'

MMMMMMMMMM. I love ScarJo. I'd LOVE to make the threesome from Vicky Christina Barcelona into a foursome...

100% with Claire on this one! All depends on the mood, partner, and situation.... :)

My life hasn't changed. I have run into clients in public and we have an understanding... A smile or a nod is fine -- but don't come over to me and I won't go over to you. I refuse to change my life for fear of ANYTHING. Life is too short!!!! :)

I had a kitten I was trying to name.....so I accidentally found a new name for me in the process. Plus I was thinking what's the ultimate word used to describe a feeling you have or an experience you had? HEAVEN, baby ;) It was THAT or Claire LeRoar lmfao

Im with Tianna on this one. OTK Spanking..... Giddy Up. It always depends on mood, partner and situation tho. I would not bend over for just anyone..... ;)

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I'd like to bone Christian Slater in Pump Up the Volume... And Christian Slater in Heathers. Mmmmmmmmmm.

I really seriously want to bone Penny from Big Bang Theory.

Worrying about numbers, high or low, is just one aspect of the complicated psychology behind sex and its association with personal worth. It's a dangerous and spiky pit to fall into, because that number is really only a reflection of one set of social skills and hardly defines our overall worth. But it's so emotionally loaded that yeah, people get kind of weird about it. That said, there are a few reasons people might be concerned about a high number of partners, and they're all bad. - if you're just sexually insecure, you'll be worried about your lover comparing you to former partners and you fear you'll come up short. Antidote: sex isn't a single uniform experience subject to objective competition; it has many facets and is a different experience with every partner with different psychological and emotional context. You vs. another is apples vs. oranges. Just focus on making the apple the best apple you can; that's what he/she will value most. - people might really believe, if only subconsciously, that everyone only has so much affection/passion to give, and if they've had lots of former partners then their supply is diluted among all of them -- and most importantly, by implication, he/she is less invested in this relationship than you are. (For an extreme example where this is easier to understand, assume someone's partner's number is 100 and theirs is 1.) Antidote: understand that affection really doesn't work like that. Once again, every relationship is unique and people are able to invest and bring their full faculties to bear each time. Focus on being a good partner, and you're you're more likely to receive their full commitment. - people might really believe that ever partner beyond 1 saps your virtue. Antidote: grow up. Fundamentally, if you're worried about your partner's history instead of your present moment together and maybe your future, YOU have a problem. As a general principle, and on issues ranging far beyond just sex, you shouldn't be trying to make a prison for your partner out of the events and decisions in their past; instead you should be helping them to open the doors to any prison they may have built for themselves, and be whoever they want to be today and tomorrow.

Derrick Morgan and Penelope Garcia off of Criminal Minds I love both of them and I love the way they interact with each other Penelope is so bubbly and I'm very much the same so we would get along great, and Derrick is quite fine so him and I could have a lot of fun together ;)

Now this dog Knows how to dance Salsa... Chihuahua salsero!

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Years ago, as a young woman in my 20s, I was standing in the packing area at a drop zone, talking to some people I didn't know. One person noted that I had a pager (we didn't have cell phones way back when), and asked me what I did for a living that I needed to carry a pager. I replied that I was a call girl. Everybody laughed and wanted to know what I really did. So I said I was an obstetrician and I was on-call. They readily bought that. Another time, a jumper's wife made a rare visit to the DZ one weekend, and was talking with us girls. At some point, we found ourselves alone and she had questions about E, another jumper. Her husband had told her that there was a prostitute jumping at the DZ, and she assumed it was E. E did her hair and applied make-up in the morning at the DZ. E wore sexy clothing and even a sexy jumpsuit. She was flirtatious. You should have seen her face when I explained that E worked for one of the hospitals in Toronto, and I was the prostitute. No one hates the damned stigmas more than I do, but I also recognize that they protect us. I don't really look or act like what people expect a prostitute to look like or act like, except when I'm in a session. My customers don't look like what most people expect customers to look like. This allows us to walk free, with invisibility cloaks, unseen and unbothered by those who might bother us if they were able to see us. Perhaps for single customers, it's more important to be able to come out and not be negatively judged for using the services of. Most of the men I've entertained over the years have been married men, men in position of trust in the businesses or communities, and for them, complete secrecy was probably more important than feeling understood by society. We know the stigma is way wrong. And we know that stigmas often are way wrong. Isn't that good enough? Many of us have had people in our lives who knew who we were, and I think we've been able to challenge some notions on a person-by-person basis. But hey! We're up against Hollywood.

Happy Belated Birthday PistolPete! I hope you had an awesome day!

Are you referring to BBW Summer, who advertises on Winnipeg BP? If you're once again referring to an Ottawa lady, this is the Winnipeg forum, so what's the point?

It is a business unlike other business'. In short, no there is no claim to a rebate etc. Ethically, yes but highly unlikely she would give back any $ as she likely lied in the first place to get you in the door. The other thing is if you have conversed with the SP via email or text, you really don't know if it is the SP you are conversing with. Some have 'Booking Agents' that handle these details.

Assuming different options are available with GFE or PSE will only make you mad when you find out these are not available from some ladies. GFE and PSE are "STYLES of SERVICE" and not actual services!! You CAN NOT assume PSE or GFE include any specific services. STYLES.... Mechanical Style: This means no chemistry and just what it is (Sex) no illusion of lust or passion. GFE: Girl friend experience (Does not include specific services) this is a style of date where chemistry is tried to be created, feelings of lust and passion. Usually includes kissing and a more intimate fantasy. The lady appears (and often is) genuinely interested in pleasing you and often enjoys being pleasured as well. PSE: Porn star experience (Does not include specific services) this is also a style of date. It is not a romantic/passion/chemistry type encounter it is like what you see in the porn movies (A little dirty and hardcore) SAFE PSE/GFE: means condoms are used for oral sex (and possibly DATY protection is used) - Some girlfriends and porn stars insist on condoms for everything too guys! CONDOMS are used IN ALL STYLES (Some people assume condoms are not used with these styles as often real girl friends and porn stars do not use condoms). DO NOT ASSUME THIS AS YOU WOULD BE VERY WRONG - IT IS UNSAFE TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX! You guys who assume services are included in these styles are setting yourself up to be let down. Just because one lady offers specific services (and possibly markets it as GFE/PSE does not mean the next lady will offer the same services. They are usually similar as a really good GFE would include kissing, bbbj and some touching and rubbing to build chemistry and fantasy. If you feel she is actually attracted to you and into the encounter she may be (or she may be VERY good at her job - just go with it!) Don't EXPECT any services - always ask or research first and if you show up with bad breath, rotten teeth, bad hygiene or dressed like a bum chances are you are going to be even more disappointed. In Addition: One of the ladies PM'd me to mention that one of the reasons ladies may not kiss is from being unshaven. A lot of stubble can do a girl some major damage. I would assume this to be true with DATY as well with some.