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I highly doubt everyone on here has one, or why would we all be on here, lol! I don't have one. I *have* had fuck buddies in the past, and the thing to keep it mind is a fuck buddy rides a very thin line into 'relationship'. They tend to start as easy sex, but then you start to sleep over... go for breakfast... text off and on... all of those things that make seeing escorts clean and simple, rather than dating. Many 'fuck buddy' relationships I've had have ended just as messy as relationships, because one, or both, of the people develop feelings toward one another.

From a ladies point of view I think P411 is great. It is becoming more and more popular and its one of the screening methods I encourage to new guests without a reference. I used it for the last few years and have found it easy to use as well as the gentlemen I know that have used the site to be verified mentioned is was easy and worth it.

I would like very much to believe that it is simply because the general population is becoming more enlightened, more aware. Monogamy is not natural. Those who believe it is need to recognize that strict sexual fidelity is a lofty but perhaps fundamentally doomed aspiration. Just look at the rise in divorces, and the number of "celeb" stories about infidelity. Tiger Woods was ridiculed for his multiple sex partners. Justin Bieber gets thrown to the media wolves for hiring a sex worker. Looking at mammals alone (as yes, even we humans are animals), 3-5% practice some form of monogamy, and even then there are limits. Even Emperor Penguins mate with one penguin for a year, and then move on. :) From a chemical and biological standpoint, sexual monogamy depends not just on particular hormones that are released in the brain, but on receptors for these hormones. Among humans, we have the chemicals and the receptors, but it varies from person to person how much we have. Based on brain wiring alone, inclination toward fidelity can vary dramatically from one individual to another. Quite simply, SEX is as necessary to humans as eating and breathing. And with the apparent surge in the swingers lifestyle, I am thrilled to think that couples, who chose to be together on the long term, have realized that while their hearts are committed to each other, they can still explore their sexual fantasies without "cheating". What's more, it VERY often ends up teaching them trust in each other, increasing communication between them, and improving their own PERSONAL sex life tenfold!!! Women and men BOTH have a desire to "stray" or "explore". Swinging allows couples to do just that, and what's more, they can do it TOGETHER.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents, as i have been an MA for approx. 3 years now and a former independent SP I of course respect both professions equally. I feel that MA & SP are different in their own sensual and amazing ways. Both can be seductive and thrilling experiences ! I however for my own reasons; prefer the MA world only because I love the whole build up and sensuality of the massage, the connection between my client and I and the seductiveness of the whole experience. This is what i seek, and enjoy it thoroughly ! Both are wonderful worlds to explore ! Variety is the spice of life!

Hey boys ... come and spice up your day with me at the Paradise Spa in Ottawa .. I'm here till 9pm tonight .. pm me or just call 613-820-8887 to book ! I'll be waiting for you xxx

Took a nice long drive through Val Des Monts today and then went to Poutinefest.

I disagree that seeing an SP is a good option for a younger guy. I don't really prefer the younger guys. If I did, I could make a fortune, because it seems, in recent years, they're starting younger and younger. I think this is because we're becoming more of a consumer society. Young people think first to buy what they want, rather than to live the life. In a way, that's really sad. For many years, I wouldn't see younger men because I didn't want to "become the crutch that cripples." In other words, I always felt that, by relying on the service of SPs, young men were able to take an edge off that otherwise might have compelled them to develop the skills and qualities they'd need to form more profound relationships with women. But I think all that's out the window these days. We've become a zombie culture, stiffly trudging from one immediate urge to another with our credit cards in hand. It will probably get worse before it gets better. My preference is for a man who's walked a fair track of life, who brings a heart that has loved well, and who knows himself well enough to admit how much he has yet to learn.

Just wanted to know how a girl becomes a regular girl that you like to repeat with. Is it her looks. Her services. Amazing sex. chemistry or Connection. Genuinely enjoys your company. Make's you feel like a king? Funny, sense of humour. Feels like an old friend. Someone you can talk to about your personal secrets. PM's and emails after encounter. For me it is a combination of Chemistry, and someone who treats me like a king and genuinely likes me, and someone I would like to care about as a friend. Someone who has a good sense of humour and continues contact with me after we meet. Looks and services are not as important as the above. What are your criteria for a girl to become a girl that you would see regularly.

This morning while I drink my coffee and read the boards here, I?m struck by how many complaints we have about the guys who take advantage of some aspect of our services and then treat us badly. There are active discussions about men who: Try to negotiate or bargain clearly-stated non-negotiable fees Try to pay less than the agreed fee after they arrive Try to get services that were not agreed on before the date Complain about our screening questions Don?t bother to take a shower, brush their teeth or trim their nails before seeing us Assume that we're likely to rob them Threaten to write bad reviews and/or aren?t believed when they write good ones Insult us, our need for safety and even our looks when we don?t give in to what they demand No one is forced to read our ads and websites, look at our photos, contact us, discuss our services with us, or meet with us. It?s all voluntary and initiated by the client. The client has needs, feelings, preferences and curiosity, but why do so many refuse to take responsibility for themselves? What they express as anger, self-righteous indignation and personal entitlement is really projected self-hatred. I want to sit these men down and say: If you don?t want to see a paid companion, don?t do it. If you decide to seek out a companion, that's your decision. What you want is not what everyone else may want. That?s usually a wonderful thing. Recognize that we?re not like cheap candy that you can buy daily. We?re more like fine dining to be enjoyed occasionally. Plan accordingly. If someone?s prices are too high for you, either wait until you can afford her, or find someone else. Meanwhile, don't blame her for your lack of funds. Recognize that she charges what the market will bear. That means that there are plenty of others who can afford to see her. Always be polite and considerate. No matter what. Even if you feel confused, disappointed or insulted, be polite. Remember that companions are human beings, just like you. We have needs, desires, dreams and things we?re worried about or afraid of, just as you do. We will protect both your health and our own. Fair is fair. If you're worried about your safety, know that she's concerned about her safety, too. No matter who or how important you are or think you are, the one who is taking the most risks is always the companion. Always. Relax.

There seems to be a common misunderstanding that massage parlours offering hand jobs/happy endings are not providing prostitution services and therefore are not classified as "common bawdy houses" under the prostitution laws of the Criminal Code of Canada. The following comments illustrate this point of view. "Note however, that in some places (like Ottawa) some massage parlors are licensed by the City and thus have a permit to operate, as long as they only go so far (ie no oral or FS)." "You cannot get "full service" at a massage parlor, that would be illegal." "... to Offer BJ or FS to the gentlemen... this would make the spa a brothel which are clearly illegal..." Since many cities license erotic massage parlours/body rubs, and everyone knows what goes on inside them, it's understandable that this would lead to the mistaken belief that everything is legal. A hand job is a sexual service. Providing sexual services for money is prostitution. Any location where prostitution commonly occurs is a common bawdy house. Therefore massage parlours commonly providing hand jobs... are providing sexual services... and therefore are engaged in prostitution... and therefore the massage parlour is a common bawdy house. There's a legal distinction made between "erotic" services and "sexual" services. (I know, I know... it's a fine line ;-) ) Municipalities can regulate "erotic" services through zoning and licensing. These include strip clubs, adult video stores and massage parlours for example. They can't authorize "bawdy houses" since the Federal Criminal Code of Canada prohibits them. Another way to understand this is that a lower level of government can't adopt laws which are inconsistent with those of a higher level of government. This is a basic principle of constututional law. Therefore a municipal massage parlour license can't authorize a massage parlour to provide sexual services, including hand jobs, because that would make it a "bawdy house" and bawdy houses are illegal under Federal law. As stated in a Library of Parliament Research Publication on prostitution, "... municipalities walk a fine line between federal and municipal/provincial jurisdiction and must be careful not to take any measures that might deal with actual prostitution. Part of this balancing act consists in maintaining the illusion that escort services and massage and adult entertainment parlours are not fronts for prostitution-related activities." As for why massage parlours don't get busted, it's for basically the same reasons that the police look the other way with most indoor prostitution. If you operate discretely and the neighbours aren't disturbed, the police aren't going to go looking for trouble. They've got plenty of other crimes to investigate where there are real victims. This includes prostitution where there is real and obvious harm being done such as underage prostitution, violent pimps, and foreign sex workers who are trapped without their passports. Since it is so rare for police to bust a massage parlour, this gives the impression that they are all legal. But, they do get busted occasionally, so what causes the police to take action in a very few cases and look the other way in the majority of cases? I've attached a few links to news stories about massage parlours that were busted. These were all in inappropriate locations that drew complaints (next to daycares, ground floor of a condo). There are of course other examples of massage parlours being busted. These usually involve foreign women working in massage parlours who are being victimized or under aged girls. It's not my intent to scare either massage attendants or clients with this information. Clearly the vast majority of massage parlours generally operate without any problem. I do however think that we should all be knowledgable about prostitution law (and sexual health information) so that we can assess the risk of our activities. Avoiding massage parlours which are likely to draw complaints from neighbours is a simple step to take. The upcoming Supreme Court of Canada decision on prostitution laws will likely affect the current legal status of massage parlours as bawdy houses. So if you work in or frequent a massage parlour, you should be interested in the outcome of that case. http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/839283/inside-a-calgary-bawdy-house-evidence-of-happenings-at-massage-parlour-found-online/ http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/massage-parlour-busted-in-residential-building-1.1240820 http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/police-lay-prostitution-charges-at-gatineau-bawdy-house-1.574116 One final point. When massage attendants and clients discuss sexual services/price in the private massage room of a massage parlour this is not considered public solicitation. The private massage room has the same status as a hotel room. It's a private space, not a public space.

Congratulations. I love a great mind.

I'd say she's still new to the business, and I don't write official recs for anyone without seeing them a number of times. But she has potential, other people should check her out too, and maybe they'll like her too.

Congrats on hitting the 1000 posts milestone......I know I personally have read most all of them and anxiously await the next 1000 great posts from this amazingly sexy lady. Keep them cumming please! *RAWR* indeed.

Thanks for all the wonderful contributions tracy ! and congratulations!

Y is for "Your as young as you feel, and being with CERB ladies makes this 52 year old feel young" RG

Before I entered into this business, I would hook up with others. However, I found that they wanted more, would show up at my place without an invitation, and even jealousy if they found out I was seeing other FWB's. I didn't like it, and ended up going into the business instead. This way, I get my needs and wants met, but if I don't want to see someone, or want to do something else, I have that option. I don't know of anyone who has managed to have a FWB or fuck buddy that remained that. Emotions evolve, and things change. I prefer this instead.

I feel that these are just people too "lazy" to find the info themselves. I could be wrong, this is simply how I perceive them. I'm glad most members avoid chirping in with reco's on those particular threads because they can only recommend someone who was good FOR THEM! My best friend can go on all day about her damn Pho soup, doesn't mean I'm going to love it.

Alexis.. good call out...!! while browsing the Ottawa section main page, the BETA ad section does not show any posts.. so I had not ventured to that section.. Behold .. Ads.. galore!! Thx

Awesome job Midnight Massage We all look forward to many more sexy posts Kisses and Stat Sexy xxo

v is for Very pretty Vagina

Good Morning Gentlemen, I'm Sasha, a young fit and playful MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic massage will relieve your tension & leave you more than satisfied. I'm very fun, open minded and comfortable to be around so let's make this experience as enjoyable and naughty as your fantasies.. ;) I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, nice round booty, brunette with blond highlights, golden tan, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes, 100% natural beauty.. Services: Full erotic body massage Reverse massage Slippery body slides reverse body slides Shower for 2 Hot tub fun Relaxing music Fresh towels & linens Duos Some fetishes ATM available on site Schedule: Monday: 9am-9pm Wednesday: 9am-5:30pm Thursday: 9am-7:30pm Saturday: 9am-4pm Sunday: 10am-9pm http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=146238 Join me for some hot steamy fun call: 613-820-8887 or 613-614-2117 -Sasha xxx

Well for me, don't know if you'd call it nervousness, it's more like excitement, pre date jitters and not to mention looking forward to meeting the lady. This happens whether it's a lady I'm seeing for the first time or a lady I know and like and seeing for the third, fourth (well you get the idea) time. This excitement is all part of having an encounter, and if I don't get excited, have pre date jitters, well I'll pack it in because what's the point So if your nervous, first consider it natural. Second don't worry about being nervous, instead embrace it, consider it part of the excitement of the encounter. But don't let your nervousness scare you away. If you book an encounter with a companion follow through with it, don't cancel. Finally don't drink or use drugs prior to your encounter to try to calm down, show up stone cold sober or be stone cold sober when she arrives at your hotel. And finally, in my experience, all ladies are very good at putting you at ease, so you'll be put at ease and you'll likely have a great encounter A rambling RG

Congratulations and thanks to you, Tracie, for your continuous support of this community and its members. Your acknowledgement of members' achievements, and your own clever and thoughtful posts, are a real contribution to the positive spirit this site is dedicated to promoting. Thank you!!

Tracie! I knew you could do it, way to go! I love reading your wet & wild posts and look forward to reading moar!

Congrats Tracie! 1000 sexy posts! *RAWR*

I still think Boardwalk empire is the best show on tv-hbo. Then I'd say Real time with Bill Maher, love him. I am also loving re-runs of corner gas. One show I wish would stop playing is Big bang theory, not a fan!!

Great 1000 posts. Congratulations. The next 1000 will come faster :)

Congrat's Midnite Massage on reaching your first 1000 posts....

Thank you so much for your insightful posts and congrats on your incredible milestone! Xoxo

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Discussing sex in a club or spa is illegal. Anyone mentioning this is breaking the rules here. So don't.

Congratulations on this major milestone Looking forward to reading your continued contributions RG

Congratulations on reaching your 1000th post!!! :D

I just wanted to ad my 2 cent here...I don't really like the way this thread has turned...as you can find sensuality in both MA and SP experience...nuff said!For the OP...like a lot have said...do your research and take the plunge!BJ xxx

I have been following this thread from the start and really it almost seems like and out right war. The main difference between SP Services and MA services are that EXTRAS ARE NOT ON THE MENU WITH AN MA. You are paying over all for time spent with a LADY, she will tease and tempt you in the way decided by the nature of her business Title. Myself, I chose to be an MA because I am more sensual and don't like to think that I need to force an appointment with a predetermined check list of activities that NEED to happen for my client to be happy and feel like they had the best experience. I prefer a natural organic sensual time spent with a gentleman that treats me like a lady and respects the rules of an MA working in a Massage Parlour. As it has been stated many times that Ladies working Indy have more freedom to blur the lines between what an MA can offer, but that is not everyone's cup of tea. IMHO if you want an organic sensual experience than an MA may be the option, and if your looking for a Check List of specific services then an SP is more on the mark for what your looking for. Cost may be a bit different from SP to MA but ultimately your paying for time spent with a Lady and how she makes you feel.... should that price tag change based on services???? That is a question that only you can decide for yourself. And to Clarify GFE MA is a Feeling NOT A LIST OF SERVICES!!!!! It is a connection that you feel like you know the girl and that she genuinely takes your feeling and desires and acts on them. I am PROUD to call myself a GFE MA, but not at the expense of Gentlemen seeking my services thinking that they will get more mileage because I state I offer a GFE experience. My take at least Kisses All XoX

Maybe something else to consider. A newbie may have heard stories of bait and switch and other negative aspects of this lifestyle. He may want to ensure that his first encounter will be a positive experience...it's not so much a case of who is the right lady to see, but a way to avoid the wrong ladies, those who give this lifestyle a bad name One more thing. A newbie to this lifestyle can be overwhelmed. It is more than sex for money. There is a lot of etiquette to learn. There are many beautiful ladies on CERB, how to select one, not to mention it may be a big hurdle just to decide to embark on this lifestyle, so maybe the guy just wants help narrowing his choice of a lady to see. A morning rambling RG

Congrats on hitting the 500 post milestone. Your posts are informative and are valued. Keep up the good work. ;)

Carrie Moon and Joyful Christine are tall and would fit the requirements. I have done threesomes with both of them and they are fun and friendly. I, on the other hand, am rather height challenged. FunValerie

Interesting question. I can only speak as someone who would enjoy the experience, I can't say I've had the pleasure yet. That said, I think I'd prefer it to take little effort to achieve the effect. Mostly, this would simply be because you'd be more likely to get to enjoy it again and again! :) On top of that, from what I've read, it seems like it would also be preferable because it would take the pressure off. I'm thinking of the ladies who have said the one thing that is most certain to prevent them from squirting is feeling pressured to do so. So if it's taking a lot of time and effort--despite the fact that the process can still be enjoyable--I'd worry the lady would start feeling stressed or worried knowing that is your goal, and the longer it takes the more distracted and difficult it would become. Not words that should be used to describe sex! So, just like leading a lady to any orgasm, while the process of getting there is indeed much of the fun, the less effort and therefore less pressure, the better to my mind. Besides, one complaint I'm pretty sure no guy has ever uttered is "dammit, she just orgasms too easily!" ;)

Zoe D. That is all!!!

Hello! My name is Bridgette and I am an exotic dancer at Barbarella's. I'm an avid hockey fan and love swapping travel stories. The Champagne Room is my favourite playground, and intimate dances with me are a playdate you'll never forget. I just got back from a holiday in the sun, and I'm not about to let the winter stop me from keeping the heat going. Come play at 340 Queen Street, this Saturday from 1:30 PM until 7:00 PM. I'm also around Tuesday afternoons from 11:30 AM until about 6:00 PM. I'm usually in no rush to leave, so just shoot me a PM if you'd like me to stick around a bit later. XO

Was curious if you know you're pleasing and really getting him hot and wild for you. Does this play a mental or physical factor in you getting off?

As I like to say "The wetter the better" lap it up...all of it :) Go ahead lady and ride my face, nothing like a good face fuck....BTW squirting by a lady is "hot" :)

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