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I have communicated to him. He is safe. But He cant talk about it...for whatever reason. I hope to stay in touch often.

I'm not sure what context Miss Jane is bringing up, if it's specific to this industry, please ignore the rest of this post. When I was younger (I feel old saying that, but in reality just about 7 or so years ago), I met this girl who was all kinds of messed up. She was nice, but for certain reasons, she had a very low self-esteem, dabbled in some dangerous activities, and in other ways, in a bad place. I helped her through some of it, I'm happy to say that I did a decent job, she's headstrong and accomplished now. On her way to bigger and better things. But that relationship really did a number on me. I do believe I was well intentioned, but it did start to feel weird when she became more independent. It's hard to put into words, because saying it really makes me feel a disgusted with myself, and even though everyone here is more or less a faceless avatar, it is a bit shameful to admit this. I resented when she did become better, or healed so to speak. Being that person who was a confidant, a crutch, it made me feel better about myself. I realize now I had my own self-esteem issues, if my 'white-knight' self was using all of this as a confidence booster. 7 years may not seem that long to some here, but I wonder about that little kid, wonder how I could've been that person. I guess based on my own experience, I do have a negative correlation to white knight. I've learned that it's good to do something nice for others, and okay to feel some sort of satisfaction. But it is a small component of my life. I am on occasion hesitant helping people, especially women who are my age. I try to wonder if I'm doing it for the right reasons, or because I feel as if I want something more. This has turned out to be a bit of a rambling, so I'll stop here. Hopefully this was to point.

I thank you all for the positive thoughts and comments. I want everyone to understand that this has nothing to do with health or a broken relationship. My grandfather told me to do what's right and not what's easy in life, so I did. I made the decision long ago to take a path in life knowing there would be a great deal of personal cost and there has been, but it had to be done. For all those who think you can help, unfortunately you can't. I have to walk this path alone and I knew that when this all started...it is my burden to bare, and mine alone. Spud271

I have to admit that I get asked this question more and more these days. I'm aware that as an independent we can do what we want, but I do not appreciate the insistence or the handful I have to occasionally deal with in person after I have made myself clear before we meet. If a provider tells you she offers manual massage only, please don't see her anyway thinking she may change her mind. It's troublesome to be in an appointment with someone that does not understand the services that are outlined very clearly beforehand. The kicker is when I'm told who does.. My question back is why are you here and not with that person? To try to deceive is terrible and I sincerely feel the art of erotic massage has been lost in this grey area.

you reached out with this thread but you haven't been back. Forgive me if this has been posted I didn't see it anywhere. Please get in touch with someone here http://www.crisisline.ca/ hugs across the miles. We have ALL been there. Please be ok.

A few years ago, a touring lady from Toronto was here in Ottawa ( I had seen her once before), we were to see each other the next am. When I texted her for location, she asked if she call me, I said "yes of course". She called, was crying on the phone, she had been robbed by 3 guys the night prior to our appointment. The guy came to her door, and before she could get the door closed the other two barged in, they cleaned her out cash wise, it was a late appointment around 11pm. Needless to say she reported the robbery to police,her room was already paid for, so I met her outside her Hotel (a four star hotel commonly used by providers), she was sitting on her suitcase, teared up. I took her to bus station, bought her return ticket,(she bussed and came one way, and to see the city and didn't know how long she would stay) and I gave her my donation of the intended agreement between us, so she could eat on the way home and have some money. This is NOT being White knight, as far as I'm concerned, this was simply doing the right thing, when someone is in tears,upset, and lost everything in the past 2 days, I think helping that person out was the appropriate thing to do. We stayed in touch over the following year, she never came back to Ottawa, because of that situation, and last email from her was she was retiring and going back to school.

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Aside from clean and all that has been discussed, I enjoy a visit that is a real visit. Most of my dates are very social and yes we could rush and finish up in a hour. I do prefer more though. I enjoy most when people have bothered to read about what interests me and engages in conversation. Same on my part, as much as I am permitted professionally to know my guest that is what I like. A guest can be the very nicest and have needs that are met the way they like but if you don't like to talk you probably won't be back to see me.

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After retiring in May 2012, and 36 years as a CTV Ottawa news anchor, Leigh Chapple has passed away at the age of 58. Leigh was also a long time instructor at Algonquin College. Leigh and her husband both retired at same time from CTV, to spend more time together. An awful shame, the cause of her death is unknown at this time, but apparently she died peacefully. As an avid watcher of our local news, (CJOH local news) she will be missed by her colleagues. R.I.P. Leigh Chapple.

Every year my children and I pick one angel each off the angel tree and use Christmas money they get from there grandparents to buy the presents. I believe it's very important for my kids to get involved in giving back. This year my son asked if he could buy presents for kids that would be in Cheo over the holidays. So we are doing that as well :) We also give to the food bank all year long and donate clothes that no longer fit them to a local shelter.

I have two! And generally feel I'm ahead a bit if I trade them for bishops.

Toy mountain does accept cash, cheques (made to The Salvation Army) as donations and off course unwrapped toys.

Charitable giving, whether through money or time, is very important. At this time of year I always make donations to local food banks and toy drives. Toy drives seem particularly important to me as no child should be without a new toy at Xmas. Over the winter I also make sure my kids recycle their old winter coats to the various charities that make sure kids get winter coats. On a more permanent, year round basis, I make monthly donations through payroll to the my local United Way. Porthos

Emily and Nicolette have said it all...i will only add...shaving your private area is also part of good hygiene. I know a lot of gentlemen here have a SO and if you suddenly start shaving she might get suspicious...but maybe start with a little trim down...she might actually like it :D There is nothing like a clean shaven or trimmed area...yummy!!!!

Dude, I'm not sure if we've ever interacted on here. But things are not as bad as they seem. I'm going to lift the veil of secrecy and let you in on a little secret. I'm not the happy jovial guy I pretend to be on here. I have an illness (to all my lady friends, it's NOT contagious) that will either kill me or eventually make my life unbearable. So I live each day like it's my last. And I'm having a great time. Whatever your problem is, it's probably temporary, so hide in your shell for a bit and then come out and have fun again. If I can have fun, then so can you.

From the RCMP's press release, Project "Combative" targets a criminal organization involved in the smuggling and trafficking of Romanian nationals in Canada. My thoughts, based on the press release. If there is a criminal organization bringing Romanian nationals into Canada and they are made to be sex workers, then yes, I hope law enforcement investigates and the Crown prosecutes them. It sounds, just from what I can take from the RCMP press release, this is more of a case of sex trafficking. This is the ugly side of prostitution and police should target it. The Romanian nationals sound like they are being pimped out by the criminal organization, hence the reason that organization is targeted by the RCMP. We aren't talking about consenting adults here At least that's what I take from the press release RG

I just want to bring my comments to this thread. When I chose to begin this hobby, and I want to thank CERB for that, I valued a lot the values of safety, discretion and in some ways the ethics of the providers that advertize on CERB. The last thing I want to experience with this hobby is being put in a situation where my life, my job and my reputation would be compromised by some people that don't care about safety. We fight against BBFS,, we fight for any unsafe sexual practices,we fight for discretion either from the providers and the hobbiests, we fight against "bait and switch", we shoudl also fight against any other behaviour that put us at risk; and a MA working in a Spa that offers FS or BJs is putting us at risk. I'm not a saint, and when I go to a spa, the emotions of the moment, (let's say that sometimes we think with our penises...) the temptation is real; even "the risk" can be tempting. But in front of judge, when the Ottawa Citizen will talk about the Johns, and your name is on the list, I'm sure that regrets will rise, and the point of no return has been passed. Too late. I appreciate the spas that seems very rigourous about the limits of what the MA can offer, and I have experienced that they stick to it; discretion and safety are the main reasons for me to use their services. Au contraire, when I learned that some MA in some spas offers "more", and I wont even think to get there; for me, these spas are like a mine field where it can explodes in my face any time. I'm a promoter of safe sex, and safe sex is not only a health issue. Why we would put our life and safety at risk when it can be prevented? There are son many possiblities in this business, there are so many indies that offer a range of high quality services in a clear and safe environment, that I don't see any reason to take a risk to ask and get a service that would be illegal. If my expectations is to get the full service, I wont go to a Spa. Period. And if ever, I would hope to have a more extended service, I would ask if the provider offers outcalls.

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yeah its the same person, seen her a couple of times decent experience, only thing i don't like is that she will text you out of the blue saying shes free and whatnot, not sure about other people but i prefer that they dont do that

Hmm...pretty sure the title of this thread is "Ladies, what do you expect from your clients?" not "Tell me about that time you saw someone with a stinky pussy" Seriously guys? If you see someone who is a professional, it's their fucking JOB to have a nice clean pussy and everything else. I'm not sure what ladies you guys are going to see but maybe you need to re-think your base price point. You get what you pay for and I guarantee that none of the classier ladies who are charging premium rates would stay in business for long if hygiene were an issue. I would bet that better than 9 times out of 10 the one with hygiene issues is the guy.

piano8950, I know what you mean. I once went through a phase with a lady like that myself long ago. I don't think she needed or wanted saving and in retrospect, I think it was very arrogant of me to assume that I knew better what was 'right' for her. It ended in misery and as I look back, I really have to question my own motives. At the time I felt that I was pure of heart but in retrospect, I think a lot of it was ego and low self esteem on my part. Trying to make myself feel better by being a selfless saint, rescuing this poor helpless girl with no ulterior motives whatsoever. What a crock of shit. Treat women like people and take the time to listen and understand them and don't assume you know the answers to their problems or even what their problems are in the first place. Chances are you're wrong and chances are you're doing it for the wrong reasons anyway.

As long as we no the limits, I love been told what to do. I no how to be a good girl and obey although sometimes I can act out and I'l let you do the punishing! Click this bar to view the full image. About me: I am very outgoing, open minded, sensual, playful. My services include full body massage, Hottub sessions and reverse massage and I cater to some fetish's. Everything that goes on in our session together is 100% confidential ! And that goes both ways! This Week, you can find me in the west end, Paradise Spa Wedsnday 11:00am - 4:00pm 613-820-8887 to book your time! Click this bar to view the full image.

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Wednesday Cherry 11-4 aka "Cherry Blossom" Lydia 9-11 NEW Destiny 9-4 NEW Sasha 9-11 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Mandy 2:30-9 aka "Candy Mandy" Jamie 2:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" ****TOY MOUNTAIN http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/toy-mountain It is fantastic to see that more of our Cerb Community is taking part in our Toy Mountain Adventure :wink: More toys for the children! Let's all make a difference! Come show your support to the less fortunate children in Ottawa this holiday season. From December 1st-14th,2013 we will be contributing $10. from every 1 hour or longer massage session to Toy Mountain......you are also welcome to give a cash donation at the spa! Tia Just Hired http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=8327 NEW Destiny http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=8282 New Online Ad check it out http://www.cerb.ca/classifieds/ottaw...op-ladies.html New Sexy Pics http://www.angelstouchmassage.ca/site/the-angels/ Come for a 4 hand massage in our getaway room....an experience you will never forget Ottawa's Best Room! Regular Room spacious and in room shower Single Massage: 30 minutes $55. 45 minutes on special for $65. 60 minutes $80. 90 minutes $120. Session time @ Discretion of MA Duo Massage: 30 minute on special for $80. 45 minute on special for $100. 60 minute on special for $130. Getaway Room Fee: Room Features a hot tub,6 ft custom shower and fireplace for your enjoyment Single Massage: 30 minutes $70. 45 minutes $85. 60 minutes $100. 90 minutes $150. Session time @ Discretion of MA Duo Massage/Couples Massage: 2 Attendant 30 minute $100. 45 minute $120. 60 minute $150. Couples Massage: 1 Attendant 30 minute $70. 45 minute $85. 60 minute $100. HST included in all door fee prices Longer Session times available and at the Discretion of MA Jamie's Discussions http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104412 & http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=J&t=114727 Sasha's Recommendations http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146238 Cherry's Recommendations http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=151528 Mandy's Recommendation http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120757 ****All MA's trained by Massage Therapist! Top Massage Guaranteed! Cherry

Hello darlings!!! I've been super busy with school. But now I'm back just in time to put the ho ho ho into your holidays. Let's have some play time xoxoxo Call 6135236199 or PM me for availabilities Age:20 Height: 5'8 Weight: 130lbs Bust: 34D In the Eastend location of CMJ so hurry and dont miss out!! Wednesday, 9am-4pm Recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...light=stacycmj

Jondalar - the fun and excitement of a newbie! No need to be nervous. If I may suggest, pick one of the slightly older gals, they will set you at ease. I have rarely had a bad experience there, but remember YMMV depending on who you meet. Give us a report back, so we can relive our first visits too!

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my sister's terrier poodle puppy , whenever i visit she comes to me and lays at my feet with her head on my foot . feeling her breath on my foot as she breathes .

Always! Recently just did a major cleaning of my apartment. I gave away four bags of clothing/jackets/shoes. And I always give to Second Harvest especially at this time (and try to volunteer for them if my schedule aligns--but not this year :( )

Big penises, they always make me smile;)

have been to Sophie in Dart.Tantric Massage 2 hour deal...very relaxing.....awesome girl

I like to hear of this as well. There's nothing better than snuggling up into a tight embrace... spooning has it's place! :)

I make a donation to the MS Society every year and I donated directly to one research group that does MS research right here in Ottawa. Tell me more about Child's Play. I have an XBox that is collecting dust with about 5 or 6 games, most never played.

Sophia is a gem!

Honest to god truth, a few months ago after a particularly hot chat exchange with Savannah Lane I had to close my office door and releive the pressure. She can be quite "exciting" even in written form. I can't remember if I told her or not. LOL

Would you jack off in a boat? Would you jack off with a goat? Would I? Could I? Think I should? It's so fun to rub my wood.

When my guests arrive, I like them to REMOVE their shoes! I can't tell you how many people I've encountered who tried to do this! I find it so rude and a lack of respect for the other person's personal space. Upon their attempt, they didn't get past my front door without removing them. While we all stress the hygeine factor, take a shower before you arrive or make sure there are shower facilities there. However, one thing many people fail do upon arriving is washing their hands. There are so many germs are out there and then you are being intimate with someone and touching them. Be considerate of the lady esp when touching the nether reigons. Going to the bathroom, leaving the door open and/or not washing afterwards. If a guy doesn't do this, I take it upon myself to get a washcloth. That would definitely be a YMMV scenario. I take the time to be presentable as well as my surroundings and expect my guests to be the same. It makes for a really nice experience.

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Jondalar - suggest you park on Burnell St, just around the corner. There is a rear entrance with secure access via 2 door buzzer system. Very discreet and easy.

When I was visiting a few months back I saw SS in PEI and posted a reco in that section. I had no issues texting her and setting things up there so give her a little slack based on her explanation. I drove back to Charlottetown from Freddy to see her a second time so that should give some idea of how highly I valued my time with her. She is gorgeous and affectionate, wish she would cum to Ottawa as I miss her!

A couple recent pics of my eyes.

Hey Spud The best revenge against the shit you've been dealt is to kick the fucking crap out of it. C'mon man...you can do it.

Since I also offer MA services too, I thought I would chime in.... Clearly there are some MA ladies who offer more than HJ's. I have recently lowered my massage rates, to cater to the HJ/massage type of guy. Well....I had to get really specific in one my ads (in the escort section of course ) to state that a massage , HJ and light touching is permitted, but not digits/daty and cbj....since many cerb members contacted me regarding my massage services asking for the items that are more suited for a GFE. At least once a day, (mind you I also advertise elsewhere too) -I am asked if my massage services comes with a bbbj-cim-daty.

As long as we no the limits, I love been told what to do. I no how to be a good girl and obey although sometimes I can act out and I'l let you do the punishing! About me: I am very outgoing, open minded, sensual, playful. My services include full body massage, Hottub sessions and reverse massage and I cater to some fetish's. Everything that goes on in our session together is 100% confidential ! And that goes both ways! This Week, you can find me in the west end, Paradise Spa Tuesday 5:00pm - 9:00pm Friday 3:00pm - 7:00pm 613-820-8887 to book your time!

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I used to have 4 dogs.. But I had to give away my 3 boys... :( I don't think I'll ever get over it.. :( I know I still have my girl, my princess.. But they were ALL my beloved babies!!!!! Anyone who has never been close to an animal wouldn't understand... And even though I get to visit them occasionally.. It's not ever going to be enough!!! It's like a big part of my soul is missing!!! :( </3

This is where communication and honesty come in. A lot of problems in relationships aren't anybody's fault, and thinking of them that way puts the focus more on blame than on finding a solution. Relationships change over time because the people in them change, so do the circumstances around the relationship. So couples do need to have honest communication in order to have relationships that are heathly and loving as opposed to a functioning charade. Relationships need to be reevaluated, renegociated, and reworked to match the changing needs and circumstances. And sometimes splitting up is the answer. Divorce doesn't represent a failure or a problem, sometimes it is the solution. I realize a lot of this is easier said than done. A lot of people don't even understand their own motivations and needs, so getting them to comment on them is tricky. If you ask your wife why she doesn't have sex with you anymore, she might not even know the answer, or she might be embarassed to admit it.