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I've been on this site for quite some time, but don't really participate much. I've always been a lurker. There's one thing that I've noticed however over my time that has always remained consistent, and that's that Sophia from Suite Escapes and even before when she was Independent herself and not running the spa is always extremely helpful to anyone asking for advice or recommendations. It would be easy for her as a business owner, when someone asked for a recommendation for a specific in her area, to just recommend her business, but instead she leads them to the advertisement section and the reccommendation section to search out who will meet this persons needs. Compliments aren't given enough to people, and this isn't quite a reccommendation more of a thanks to Sophia for being a class act and a great member of this forum.

There is a possibility she would refuse your request more likely because she may feel uncomfortable. .. it will safe you both wasting time... if you don't tell her and you showed up at her door she may still refuse to see you... as per privacy goes... as everyone says it is a 2 way street. .. she may not want people around her finding out about her job .. even more than you don't want people around you knowing that you enjoy paid companionship.. Maybe also what NotchJohnson suggested maybe is better to just move on and not book time together... there is plnety of others ladies...

oops ... I'm a little late ... had a rather sketchy drive home yesterday across the park ... there's tons of freakin snow here in central Ontario :D anyways ... please also accept my belated thanks for a fun evening! especially to those who's hard work went into organizing it.. great job! also thanks to the ladies who included me for dinner beforehand, an absolute pleasure to meet you all :) have a super holiday season everyone!! I'm going skiing!!

You and only you can decide how much and what you decide to show online. Remember, your choices today can and do show up years from now. I asked the very same question once, and still feel strongly for myself that showing my face online or by sending by email is not in My comfort zone. The ones who truly want to see me, know that they can see my face once they meet me. The ones who do not want to see me unless they see my face picture, well, it hasn't made a difference to me. They can sit and wonder what they are missing out on. If you want to show your face, that's ok, go ahead. However, if you do not want to show your face, don't ever let ANYONE try to get you to do anything you are not comfortable with. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143451&highlight=showing+face+pics xoxo

Cristy is right , the right clients will always find you . Your comfort level is most important and the right client will never push you . When I started out I did not show my face , now I am ok with that so I do . I believe there are ladies that post no pics at all , it's all about the energy field and the law of attraction . I think ( most ) clients visit more for connection and not so much on " the look" anyway .

Personally no. At the end of the day only put up pictures you are comfortable with especially given how long something can linger on the Internet.

Another fabulous social.. I actually stayed to close the bar this time.. lol.. time flies when you're having fun. Woot woot!!!

My .02 cents on this is don't think about it, just forget you seen her ad and move on. There are so many other girls out there don't risk the "friendship" you have things can turn sour real quick and I would not want to be mixed up in it. Again just my opinion you can still do what you want, you know her better then I or anyone else on here.

Hi Jake.. This thread I beieve has miost of the info you are looking for... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148646 Just in case here is answer to each of your individual question... Are private appointments different from appointments in a business environment? A: Service will even be different within the same business as all MAs have their own style, personality.., likes and dislikes so you cant even break service from business like to indipendent,.. as MAs are individuals and everyone is different... Is it rude to ask about the fees beforehand? A: No it is not rude to ask for fees in advanced.. You will find that when you contact a business they may not mention the tipping options... again they can range between 60$-120$... Independents usually will provide you with all inclusive fees and packages... but Also ladies in Spas (i will include myself) can provide you with All inclusive packages and when you compare them It will come to being similar... pretty much the same... the only difference is when you go to an independent she does not have to pay a door fee but some portion will cover rent and other expenses that help run her business... Ladies at a Spa have a set door fee that varies between 40 and 80 depending on the length of the session.... I know that the fees are not to be discussed at the door but can they be determined before going in? A: say you decide to show up as a walkin at a Parlour..., the lady may invite you in the room and you can have a chat about the fees... even before you decide to stay or not... again depending on the level of service you are looking for you are looking between 60$ and 120$... on top of the door fee... I know that the fees are not to be discussed at the door but can they be determined before going in? A: I cant really answer that question.. all I can say is.. there is lots of ladies here on Cerb that may work out of a Spa BUT they book their appointments on their own same as an independent will ... My suggestion is check out what ladies interest you... and if she is part of a spa and dont have a way fo contacting her directly aside from the spa number... talk to the managers they most likely will be able to answer most questions... dont be afraid... Hope this helped....

Wow Thank you so very much! I am far to humble to "self advertise" in a way that would take away the spot light from another deserving lady. I never want to put on an air of " I am the best" attitude. There is something for everyone. I want to see all the ladies do well, and have a piece of pie! I know at the end of the day, it is the hobbyist will decide in there own way, who, when and why they choose a particular lady. Thanks for the recognition, I appreciate it! xoxoox, Sophia:)

There are no deal breakers in this business. Be you and only show what you are comfortable showing, no matter what your clients want. Find your style, comfort zone and you'll then attract those whom you are meant to attract. Best of luck and enjoy your shoot:)

Just got home... it was an AMAZEBALLS time once again. Thanks to Loneskater and MisterT for arranging the festivities... and thanks to all the friends, old and new that attended. Best of all, to each and every one of you that wanted to attend but couldn't, or did attend... have a fantastic Christmas and an incredible New Year. I look forward to seeing you all very very soon!!!

I am a long time member of CMJ and have sampled many of the different woman CMJ has had to offer over the years. I have my favorites that I generally stick to but had never met Chasity before and thought I would try her out. She has the assets I am attracted to so I thought I would treat myself to an early Christmas present and set up a date with her. As things turned out I was able to get a last minute appointment in the East end location. Right off the start I felt at ease being with Chasity. She is a super friendly with a girl next door sort of look. She is someone that I could easily be friends with outside of work. As with a typical CMJ experience we enjoyed a very nice hot shower together (which was nice on this freezing day). Our hands started to roam on one another's bodies and we started to kiss each other (YMMV). I love to kiss a woman's neck and I could tell Chasity liked this and it was turning both of us on. As my hands roamed I must say that I loved the feel of her boobies (enhanced) and those nipples are some of the nicest hardest nipples I have ever had the pleasure of playing with. :) After the shower we dried off and I hoped up on the table to be treated to a very nice massage. I was eager for the flip to pay more attention to her boobs and do some more kissing. It wasn't long before she obliged me with flipping over and then a little body sliding. Some more kissing and time thoroughly enjoying her boobies and before you know it I was finished. I will definitely be seeing Chasity again.

I think what people have to keep in mind is there is an important difference between expressing your tradition vs. forcing others to do so as well. So no, I don't believe anyone should be offended if someone chooses to say Merry Christmas. I know I certainly wouldn't be offended if someone said "happy Hanukkah" or wished me a good "Kwanzaa". Why would I? The intent is to offer me good wishes. But though I strongly feel no one should be told they can't express a given holiday wish in whatever terms works for them, I don't think others should be told they have to use the same. I'm very much in favour of separation of church and state, so I actually agree that public schools should have "holiday concerts" and leave out religious carols. The public sector should be inclusive. I don't think it is fair to pressure kids of other faiths (or atheist) into singing along with a particular religion's hymns. So yeah, everyone say whatever is true for them live and let live. Pretty simple, but I'd say this chart just about sums it up:

I wanted to add my voice to everyone else's and say Thank you very much to MisterT and Loneskater for all of the hard work they put into making the socials such a success and a wonderful evening. As always it was great to catch up with everyone and to meet new people. Also I wanted to thank ALO very much for the door prize.

Moviefan is right , though I can see where there could be confusion as info for all our 5 locations are on this website but not all our locations are named "Luna " Just to clarify info for Oasis , Acqua and VIP can be found on that site as well.

Just for kicks I googled mapped how long of a walk it would be and google says 28 minutes , in this weather a bus or cab would be the best way to get there . Bus route number 8 would take you across the street from our Acqua location right on Booth. We are open daily 9 a.m - 10 p.m.

I feel there should be respect for all holiday traditions, where people are free to express them without fear that they may offend someone. I agree with Katherine - political correctness has gotten way too out of hand. What's the deal with Christmas trees being termed 'holiday trees' anyway? It's akin to calling the Menorah a holiday candlestick...absolutely ridiculous! It's a Menorah, steeped in tradition, the same way a Christmas tree is. Let's get over ourselves and remember it's not what's said, but the intention behind it. Just something to think about during this season of cheer and goodwill to all...

The only reason why I currently show my face is because I am consider an "alternative" SP. I have numerous tattoos and neon bright pink hair.... Which is why I started to show my face 2 1/2 years ago, after people recognize because of my hair. It's a bit committing a social suicide in this case...but again I advertise as your suicide girl next door. To be honest I do not think it will really impact your business if you are someone that is "legitimate" (have pics, a website and do not rip people off). I have been showing less and less of my face in this past year and I still do well. While some people do want to know who they will be meeting, the majority of people you want to meet will be more attracted to your personality that you project, how you handle yourself and will except a nice surprise.

It makes no difference for me if a lady's face is shown or not. I've had encounters with ladies who keep their faces covered and with ladies who show their face. What matters to me most of all is if the lady and I will have a connection...chemistry is the most important factor in seeking a companion. I think most everyone involved in this lifestyle be it lady or gentlemen understands the need for discretion, and we all share what we are comfortable sharing. And a photo, once on the internet, is there forever. So you have to ask yourself how much of yourself you are comfortable showing on the internet, knowing it may be there forever. The only thing that does matter insofar as a photograph goes is that the photo is a real picture of the lady, and so far every lady I've seen has had her pictures on her website/profile. Anyhow a rambling for what it's worth RG

Firstly, Mistert and Loneskater a fabulous job organizing the social, great venue,well ran, great food and baked goods. Without good people at the helm, events like this don't normally get off the ground. I can assure you 2 that this Social event I attended was organized very well,and everyone acted very positive manner throughout the entire evening, so BRAVO to ALL. To ALL the people contributing to door prizes and donating to Toy Mountain, a huge round of applause to ALL of you!!! It was my first Social attending, and it was a pleasure to be part of, having said that, I'm no longer a Social "virgin " ;), and I look forward to attending again. :) To the gents I met last night, it was great putting names to faces. To ALL the ladies, quite a few ladies I've met before :) and to those I have not met!!!"WOW" you were ALL dressed to the 9's and looked stunningly gorgeous last night! Lastly, I like to specially thank ALL those ladies that attended that were from out of town. For you ladies to adjust your schedules,to plan in advance, associated costs, to attend the Ottawa Social, I tip my hat to ALL of you ladies from out of town. Oh, and to tip off the evening, I won a door prize too! Thanks ALO for the door prize! :)

I say " Happy Holidays and have a Merry Christmas" this way I feel that I am not abandoning my Christmas tradition and still being mindful of other belief systems:) At the end of the day the "Christmas Spirit" does affect all people. There is just something that is in the air that unites us all around the globe:) I do feel it is wrong that the work place to demand a certain greeting:( This just not seem to be the Canadian way. To enforce what we are allowed or not allowed to say. Seems to be it is dumping on those of us that Celebrate Christmas traditions. Another thought....seems that many business like to cash in Christmas, weather they belief in Christmas, or other celebrations. So I suppose as long as money is to be made, then they can reap the benefits that go along with Christmas celebrations, As long as we just don't say it? LOL

HELLOO GENTS,TODAY I AM WORKING 3:30-9 ONLY *PLEASE NOTE THAT I WILL BE AWAY AND NOT WORKING FRIDAY DECEMBER 13TH OR SUNDAY DECEMBER 15TH. I WILL SEE YOU SHORTY AFTER THAT, SO ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY SHOPPING, SAFE TRAVELS AND FOR SOME OF YOU SEE YOU IN THE NEW YEAR :smile: !! I CAN'T PROMISE YOU ANYTHING, ITS WHAT I CAN SHOW YOU THAT MATTERS. I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT HOW YOUNG AND TIGHT MY ENTIRE BODY IS. BUT SHOWING YOU IS BETTER. I AM IN FACT OFFERING YOU GREAT ADULT STYLE ENTERTAINMENT. CRAZY HOT WOULD BE THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE CENTURY! WHETHER YOU ARE THE GENT WHO WANTS A LITTLE TENDERNESS OR THE BIRTHDAY BOY WHO WANTS TO CELEBRATE ANOTHER GREAT YEAR OF BEING ALIVE, OR PERHAPS YOU YOU THRIVE ON NEW EXCITEMENT. I COULD TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT, BUT SHOWING YOU WOULD BE THE BEST! ME IN THE BUFF = YOU LEAVING HAPPY IN MY WORLD YOU ARE ALL VIP'S..LUCKY YOU! 613-274-7073 TO BOOK OR PRIVATE MESSAGE ME MY SCHEDULE THIS WEEK WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 11 3:30-11 THURSDAY DECEMBER 12 3:30-9 TILL NEXT WEEK! ENTERTAINMENT IN A RELAXED ENVIRONMENT

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Friday the 13th was good to me. Dropped by Barbs and spent some time with Jenny bar-side and in the CR. No rush, great time as always. Did see another beautiful young thing. Spinner, brunette, 34B, red lipstick and a schoolgirl red plaid skirt. Anyone know her? No chance to meet her as I was "busy".

How do I put a comment on the Thanks/Nominate? Happy faces that include comment? Thank you kindly.

so if you go through with this you absolutely should tell her up front. I don't think escorts are surprised to find anyone looking through ads and seeking companionship. They are used to seeing all sorts of people, from all walks of life. I'm not at all sure what "sort" is supposed to be seeking companionship this way. There is no such thing as typical, and if there is, it likely is that we are all pretty "unexpected". But, I actually think Notch is right ... there is lot's of potential for this to go pear shaped and you would be well advised to avoid. There are lots of wonderful providers. I don't necessarily think seeing a provider because she is someone you wanted in civilian life is a good idea. Porthos

Since she is using an alias, she quite possibly does not want to share with the world that she is an escort. It would be difficult for her to tell anyone you were looking for escorts without "outing" herself. Think of it as a variant of the US-USSR ballistic missile policy - MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction), Neither of you is likely to destroy the other. lol

Agreed, tell her up front that you know her and who you are. If she is an old friend it shows respect for the friendship No need to worry about secrets being revealed, she has as much reason to keep your secret as you do hers, you both partake in the same lifestyle. I don't think anyone would want to be surprised in this lifestyle, and seeing someone you know from outside this lifestyle, that wouldn't just be a big surprise, it would likely be a shock too. RG

I think the easiest option for you would be to stick with establishments and providers who offer the all inclusive rates. Ox That way you know exactly how much you will be spending and if you wish to tip, it will because you wanted to above and beyond rather then "tipping" for services. VIP, CMJ and upscale independents like Jessica Massage and Sensual Erin offer all inclusive rates with no hidden fees.

after reading all the post and having a converstaion about that same subject last night...I have decided to not show my face anymore...I have a lot of work to do to change all my pics on my ads but i think its for the best... Thanks everyone for your comments and advice on the subject...I'm at a stage in my life where i didn't mind being recognized but reading all the info here...it makes a lot of sense covering my face...I'll just keep showing lots of legs lol It just goes to show that there is no age to learn ;) BJ xxx

Thank you mistert and loneskater for a great time! Fun events like this are magic, but they don't happen by magic. Thanks for all your work and care. I am still pretty new to cerb and this was my first social. It was a real pleasure to see some old friends and meet some new ones. Looking forward to the next one! And thanks to ALO Spas for the gift certificate door prize. A bonus pleasure:) My thanks to everyone and I wish you, and yours, a very Happy Holidays!

Wow, Thank you MisterT and Loneskater... you guys rock! Thanks for making it comfortable and fun. Everyone I chatted with were so friendly, thank you. It was my first social and I was a kid in a candy shop... so yummy! To all the ladies, your smiles and beautiful outfits made this event spectacular... your heels kept me drooling and those legs...lots of legs! Thank you for sharing and coming out to meet. I was in heaven and you are all Angels. Looking forward to meeting again. Everyone have a safe and happy holiday season Merci and Take care

Jessica Massage - Had an almost identical request. Left very happy.

Hello Gentlemen!! My name is Chasity! I am new to this, but so far , enjoying this sensual adventure I am on! Outgoing and bubbly I will make you feel at ease the moment you step into my world.. Your time with me will be spent enjoying what it feels like to truly be pampered. I will excite all your senses and put you over the edge. I am a tall, fit , brunette with 34DD's. Sneak a Peek at my albums ( my profile is a work in progress!) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=8247 You can find me at CMJ ... where all your fantasies will become reality.. My Schedule Friday 13th 10:00AM - 7:00PM EAST LOCATION Not a Member of CMJ yet? That's okay PM to be my VIP Guest! Chasityxxoo www.clubcmj.com 613-523-6199

Great job as always Mistert and loneskater, amazing evening! It was really nice seeing new faces and old ones too. And a big thx to all the amazing ladies that I got a chance to meet at dinner before :) the only down side is that I didnt get to taste Mistert's brownies :'( but I got a cookie :D BJ

Miss Jaded is a professional kinkster and offers what you seek. I have met with her a few times in the past and she is talented! Here is a link to the reco. I posted for her awhile back and one to her Cerb profile. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=M&t=39605 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=49929 Her website: http://www.missjaded.moonfruit.com/#/rendez-vous/4564657225

happy festivus

Perhaps paying more attention to ads is helpful as well. I was recently in PEI and for days after my return received questions regarding my visit. Read the ads and visit while we are there please.

I know providers sometimes do this with other providers. However, it takes trust to do this. After all, whose name is on the lease? She is the one who is most at risk if someone decides to do something stupid or dangerous. I would have an issue providing my incall location to a hobbyist. Could I trust him? Who is he going to bring in? Is he going to steal from me? Is he going to set up secret video cameras while I'm not looking? I would just look at getting a hotel, if you only need it for an hour or two a month.

I agree with you Cat. Trafficking laws, and most major proponents of such legislation and related campaigns, including NGOs aiming to eliminate trafficking, end up reinforcing stigma, silencing and violence against migrant workers, and not just limited to sex workers.... Rarely are such efforts aimed at deconstructing or bringing redress to poverty, or unevenly enforced border control measures. We should be suspicious that, to date, very few countries, for example allow for sexual labourers who have been picked up , detained and questioned in such sweeps to actually apply for a visa to stay in that given country. Countries such as Italy are one of the few exceptions. As it stands, international protocols governing trafficking allow for only two options when a worker has been identified as trafficked (a determination often made against the will of these global citizens); you are either a victim or a criminal. And, once you have provided your information, you are then of little value to authorities (and researchers) and are swiftly deported. This provides no meaningful way for those who are being harmed, or who seek protections, including under the law, to meaningfully report their concerns to authorities or even access supportive services. It should be added that these problems are made possible through a whole variety of laws, including, by the way, under what has been often termed the 'stripper visa' policy aimed largely at women seeking to tour as exotic dancers in Canada", and are no longer able to as they are being denied working visas which were previously being granted....of course, driving the truly problematic situations further underground, and making illegals out of workers trying to make a living. Such a law, while purportedly aimed at helping to eliminate the trafficking of women and girls, and deceitful fronts for prostitution, actually does nothing helpful in terms of any of this...more sensationalism, more patronizing policies that do nothing to accord voice, dignity, labour and human rights to those affected. I also agree with mistert, in that, we will have to see how the current legal challenges pan out to know what the implications are. For example, if the 'prostitution' laws currently under scrutiny are struck down by the highest Court (i.e. the Supreme Court of Canada, which is binding) and, in the process, sex workers consequentially have a foothold to access human and labour rights and Constitutional recognition, then there will be some clout to wield at the policy level in terms of redefining trafficking policy, including definitions of what constitutes trafficking, who would be considered to be a trafficked person, and what options would then be available to those caught up in this net. There is also a continuum in relation to sex work and trafficking that exists that muddies the waters, in that; 1) some people are genuinely forced against their will, or tricked into migrating to a country under false pretenses; 2) some are indentured workers who know they will be doing sex work and are under obligation to repay a specific fee for being able to secure their entry into a given country, often with their passports being held or some other power play to guarantee they will comply ( ...problematic, yes, and ultimately a practice supported by oppressive legislation such as that discussed above). In such cases, the progressive sex work literature and many labour activists attest to the fact that many of these workers (not just women I might add) would still choose this situation over remaining in their countries of origin as they are seeking mobility and increased economic opportunities, and to be reunited with family members/loved ones). Due to personal resourcefulness , the assistance of organizations and sometimes even clients, workers are often able to manage transitioning into a less controlled working situation...And, with a more empowering and redefined trafficking policy scope, this has the potential to improve the odds for folks significantly; 3) some of these people are straight up travelling sex workers, quite informed and largely mobile (however undercover and trickily navigated) who have entered countries to work and make money, and still face the threat of being picked up in these sweeps and being made subject to such laws, regardless of the fact that what they are doing...how they see what they are doing....as sex work...as real work that has meaningful purchase in their lives; and, 4) there are those whose personal circumstances have the potential to cut across more than one, or even all of these categories and realms of experience; who may, in fact, have experienced circumstances of profound coercion, or perhaps, indenturement, but who move into other circumstances, including in making a more empowered choice to participate in some form of sex work. (On the last point) This is not uncommon at all...just like it is not uncommon for sex workers who may have always been in the country, and who may have worked in a more marginalized venue, to then have their circumstances change and engage the opportunity to work in another venue. In the course of my community activism, I've been privy to many stories such as this...And, in the case of grassroots activism by labourers who would outright identify as being trafficked at some point (e.g. see the film "Tales of the night fairies"), there is a strong contingent of those who go on to assert, regardless of potential continued marginalization, that 'yes, "I am now a sex worker" who makes choices every day to continue to participate in the industry'. The understanding that "money talks and bullshit walks" carries great currency in the lives of those who engage in erotic labour and who continue to be patronized and harmed by such oppressive measures and attitudes. Of course, in such hopefulness for some structural policy changes or a favorable court ruling, it's important not to get romantic about the system...the current political party system, the courts or legislature... international governance practices, as they have been powerful forces in securing the oppression and economic disadvantage of so many historically oppressed communities...not to mention gross platforms for politicians to self-ingratiate themselves in the media...while, of course, having no meaningful vested interest or concern for the health and human rights of those they speak for, including sex working citizens....wherever a given worker sits on the continuum. As I heard former Executive Director of Maggie's in Toronto recently state at a sex work conference: 'so long as we have difficulty making a connection between the worker who has parted from their own family to come to this country to take care of the children of some affluent couple; the agricultural worker who has lost their ability to farm back home and is now stuck in a compound picking the potatoes we eat every day; and the lived reality of a sex worker, we will collectively remain the self-fulfilling subjects of our own ignorance' (Keisha Scott, indirect, condensed quote). We cannot afford to do this.

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Ani Difranco has been my favourite singer since I was an awkward twelve year old crushing on my beautiful twenty-something camp counsellor. Over the years I've purchased almost all of her albums, but this song will forever be an inspiration to me. Here is the video, and the lyrics: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vVg7mtgEqGY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> "32 Flavors" squint your eyes and look closer I'm not between you and your ambition I am a poster girl with no poster I am thirty-two flavors and then some and I'm beyond your peripheral vision so you might want to turn your head cause someday you're going to get hungry and eat most of the words you just said both my parents taught me about good will and I have done well by their names just the kindness I've lavished on strangers is more than I can explain still there's many who've turned out their porch lights just so I would think they were not home and hid in the dark of their windows til I'd passed and left them alone and god help you if you are an ugly girl course too pretty is also your doom cause everyone harbors a secret hatred for the prettiest girl in the room and god help you if you are a phoenix and you dare to rise up from the ash a thousand eyes will smolder with jealousy while you are just flying back I'm not trying to give my life meaning by demeaning you and I would like to state for the record I did everything that I could do I'm not saying that I'm a saint I just don't want to live that way no, I will never be a saint but I will always say squint your eyes and look closer I'm not between you and your ambition I am a poster girl with no poster I am thirty-two flavors and then some And I'm beyond your peripheral vision So you might want to turn your head Cause someday you might find you're starving and eating all of the words you said

Simple words posted on my fridge: PatrickGC

This is one of things that if you watch it, it may restore your faith in humanity! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQMbJ5XUR68 ENJOY IT:) here is another....