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Im thinking March for me but it really doesn't matter. Whatever is best for you and loneskater. I do have a suggestion though. What are your thoughts on name tags for the gents? Their handles not actual names. Just an idea.

I am going to say a resounding NOPE. How you depict yourself verbally is what initially sparks the interest. Your words have enticed your target audience to even take the time to view your ad where they ultimately see your pics. Words first....and from what I hear, the BP type of ad that the youngins tend to post (emoticons etc) are a turn off (to respectful gents).

I sure hope your kidding. What single mom would choose to have a sex toy for herself over a real toy for her child? If you know of one then perhaps the child should be living elsewhere. Just saying.

Not physical presence this time... But true to my own Christmas tradition, I've heard this almost every year since coming here around Christmas. Any chance it might be people who do celebrate Christmas, but rather not seeing public money spent on Christmas events, or agnostics/atheists who really don't have any religious attachment to holidays? I've seen examples of both. I'm sure there are some people who immigrated here that for some bizarre reason feel offended, but trust me, as a voting bloc, this group has very little influence. Look for that war on Christmas enemy somewhere else. And no way in hell will I shut the f up if I see something I disagree with here, just because I don't have an ancestry of 'true' Canadians.

The downside of using face pics can be seen here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=160542 re: face pics, as in the above link. What is to stop an unscrupulous guy from booking an appointment with this sp he knows, and then go about either blatantly or subtley blackmailing her for free time, discounts, or extra services. What is to stop him from exposing her to mutual friends if she refuses him as a client, or puts her foot down if he gets pushy. When sps started posting advertisements, it was 3 lines in a newspaper column. Then some photos were used, often by mps using stock photography in ads or in the yellow pages. Then the internet came along, and the traditional sps still did not put pictures in their ads, and the ones with pictures tended to be BS anyway. \\ Now the online ad with 3 to 5 pics is 'insufficient'. 10% of anyone enquiring asks if there are more pics. for what? 5 pics showing a variety of angles, what more is needed? OH, FACE pictures, of course, my bad. lol. Sps are already being pestered for videos, live face to face online chats, and endless emails, messages and texting. And I remind you, that the majority of guys managed to call sps, book appointments and have terrifically great times, based on a 3 line ad in a newspaper, with not one single picture. For anyone who felt that was too much uncertainty, they went to massage parlours where they could see and meet the sps prior to choosing someone to spend time with. Where is this demand from clients, the carrots dangling in front of the new sps who don't know what will be a good idea 2 years or 10 years down the road take them? That they refuse to book or consider sps who won't use face pics? Really? I don't know, but to me, that just seems really pushy. The limits of this work, and the advertising included, has already been pushed really far. low rates are pushed for, high risk services are pushed for, and now the sp can't even leave the privacy of her home without the idea that someone somewhere has seen her online ad with the nudity and provocative poses, but never contacted or seen her in person, but they know her general location and what she looks like. In the past if someone collected an address and no showed, the sp still had the reassurance that even tho he knew where she was, he still didn't know exactly what she looked like. She could leave thinking that even if he sat out there for 5 hours waiting for her to come out, to follow her, or see what she was driving, or whatever, good luck with that because at least he didn't know what her face looked like!

Every man is unique and so is their sexual stamina ;) I offer msog because there are some men who like it , want it and need it-and that is fine with me as long as it is non pressured and entails us both having fun :)

We are removing this from the rules... (As a temporary trial) and we will be allowing link to backpage and craigslist for a limited trial time. Some of the other escort directories will still be on the censor list for competition reasons to EC but I (and the council) have convinced everyone that these links are needed so the guys here can help each other make sure they don't get scammed. please don't abuse this. Ladies... please don't place links on cerb to your backpage ad. We do not want to support BP in that way. This is for research for the guys only.

Since Savannah joined Cerb we quickly became long distant friends through the virtual world only. We sent, emails,pm's and text messages back and forth over the past several months. I think we both understood, what we enjoyed in the boudoir, and I had visited her web site many times to get all those finals details about her. When Savannah made her announcement that she was coming to Ottawa, I immediately pre-booked with her, to have my preference in time of day and length of time to spend together. We all seen her pictures, she is one very attractive lady with a body I so desire and her eyes are so seductive, such a beautiful lady, have a look for yourself, and I can confirm, Savannah has a easy going personality too. I picked up some gifts for her, to welcome her to Ottawa, we finally met after a long time of being long distant friends through text messages. When I arrived,and she opened the door, it was within a second we kissed saying hello to each other, I don't think I will ever forget that introduction to "hello" Savannah was wearing a black dress, and looked beautiful, and wow could she ever kiss passionately too. I took off my coat, after a giving her the bag of gifts, and took off my boots. We continued with our deep kissing and hands roaming, and it wasn't long before our clothes were in a neat little pile. I explored her from behind, kissing her neck, and going down slowly, to her beautiful bum. Then I worked my way back up and turned her head so we could kiss more, as I explored her gorgeous breasts and nipples with my big hands, she could feel my erection pressed against her sexy bum. It wasn't long before we held hands moving to her bedroom, where we simply devoured each other,soft beautiful long oral which included Savannah riding my entire face,mouth,tongue,chin and then having her gorgeous body on top of me, and she gave me oral in return, we also got into the 69 position, which was plenty of foreplay for us both. I asked her finally to make love where she, climbed aboard and we made love in cowgirl position, and then moved into mish position where I finally succumbed to her erotic pleasures. We snuggled and kissed, touched and caressed each other for a while, and I played more with her, Savannah was again very much more pleased again. After she succumbed to more orgasmic pleasures we decided to cuddle a bit more. Afterwards,we moved into the shower, we washed each other, played again some more, and lots of more erotic foreplay again for us both. We carried on for quite sometime in the shower then dried off, and moved into the living room area, and played some more, I thoroughly was simply all played out from a 2 hour session that turned out to be 2.5 hours. Her ad's for Ottawa had read "Passion,Intensity, Seduction " I can assure you, that Savannah, is a very passionate lady, with a lot of seduction and intensity. It was a extreme pleasure to meet my east coast girlfriend here in Ottawa and hope she comes back to visit us again, Thanks Savannah for a most enjoyable time with you.

What can I say mister, you are lovely. You share many a sexy pic for the entertainment of the masses, share your thoughts, advice and stories in a fun, sweet and meaningful way and you also have a very delicious and naughty mind. Keep on posting, it wouldn't be the same without you! *muah*

I'll chime in again here after spending some thought after reading EmilyJ's latest Blogasm entry http://www.blogasms.xxx/war-on-christmas/ As I said on Twitter, I don't believe all traditions are anti-progressive. Some traditions should be kept, maintained and added however, these are more personal traditions and are related to people's beliefs, families, love and caring. As Emily J pointed out, some traditions such as traditional marriage, rights for women and of course sex workers, should be changed to reflect the times. Why am I stating this in the Christmas thread? Because of the War of Christmas that is being spoken of. I do believe it is government, political and media hype that stirs us to cast a critical eye, be judgmental and pick up the gauntlet. I grew up hearing Merry Christmas in stores, from neighbors etc. This was back before there was such a melting pot. I did experience the change where working in the public sector we were directed by corporate to say "Happy Holidays" so no one would be offended. Just like the slew of other political correct stuff you're supposed to do or say so that others don't get offended. So many things that just happened and are now "norm". I would rather police myself and my reactions then have someone tell me what I can and cannot do. As many have said, I take greetings and acknowledgements this time of year in the spirit they are given. After examining my thoughts today, I realized that part of my upset was caused by the lack of tradition in school concerts. I completely agree with Brad that other religions, beliefs or non beliefs should not be forced to do something which is not comfortable for them in order to participate. So honestly, my upset in personal because I miss the days of traditional songs where everyone knew the words and sung along. A little more thinking shows a completely different state of "PEOPLE". It's the technology state and it's more about cell phones, video and the latest gadgets to capture the whole ordeal. So after all this rambling, my upset is completely personal because of the shift overall. It is up to each individual to make the holiday whatever they chose to make it. Be upset or not, be happy or not. It's all a choice. Peace on earth, goodwill towards men. A traditional statement but one that shouldn't be abandoned because it is as meaningful now as then. Live and let live. Be tolerant and treat others as you wish to be treated. If politicians or governments step in to take that away, stand up and be heard. My apologies is this is rather disjointed, still thinking but wanted to throw a different perspective out there that yes, maybe it IS all in our heads and we need to step back and re-examine our thinking.

Far be it for me to enter into a politically or religious debate, but I gotta say one thing... Bah! Humbug! Keep Christmas in your own way and let others do the same. Good will to all and to all a good night.

Instead of frosty the snowman-it's Cerb man the Hobbyist! Cerb man the hobbyist was a happy horny gent with a nice stiff dick and a long strong tongue he searched out a gal to rent A call was made and a few things discussed before agreeing on a rate his reputation was good and with a reco sent so a time was made for a date Cerb man the hobbyist was as horny as could be he said he wouldn't last, please don't go fast So she didn't, she wanted it to be worth the fee bang, bang, slurpity, slop, moaning and groaning galore... Cerb man the hobbyist was a happy contented man but with a wink of her eye and a lick on her lips he knew he was in for more bang, bang, slurpity, slop, moaning and groaning galore... with this release Cerb man the hobbyist was a happy man for sure;) Cerb man the hobbyist had to hurry on his way with a kiss goodbye he promised not to be so shy and to last longer his next stay:)

The reaction I'll get from my pugs when I get home from vacation on Wednesday. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! I MISS THEM SO MUCH!

I think its pretty stupid when people criticize other peoples's spelling. I don't think anyone's job here is to be the authority of proper spelling or grammar or whatnot. I think if you are so hung up on peoples' spelling than you have lost focus on this forum and the reason why you are here.

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I was going to pm, but I think it is more helpful to the board if dont.I don't mean Any disrespect by not doing so. I think this board is an excellent source for information on whatever it is that you seek. And if you are fortunate enough to have an account you can speak with the specific lady you wish to see to ask directly on what fees are to be expected. Some ladies have non- negotiable rates. And I think it would be unfair to say that a spa or specific lady is not " up-scale" if she chooses not to state the rates as an inclusive amount. It can be stated however one see fit. At any spa, a portion of the fee goes to the " house " whether it's paid up front, or as an inclusive rate. If a lady choose to charge anything beyond that that means she's offing something that is not typical and yes, in that case I agree that it can be quite confusing because some people don't come with the expectations if anything other than a massage and a hj. And please don't be discouraged to go any particular spa, or see a particular lady jake_cdn or anyone else for that matter. There are many great ladies everywhere. Keep it rosey and cheers.

My advice for the OP and others who may find themselves in this situation for future reference is to not call her and leave it at that. Just because you find her attractive and want to spend time with her doesn't mean she will go for it if you just happened to just show up. I respectfully disagree with others about telling her you know her beforehand. This is just being an alarmist and for her to be on the receiving end of that is not anything to be peachy keen about. If someone did this to me, I'd be upset and there would be no encounter regardless of whether or not I knew that the person contacted me knowing it was me or had no idea it was me. Remember, if you were to go ahead and set up an appt knowing it's her, that imo is sneaky ( and women can't stand men who are sneaky, myself included) and it's not the way to go about wanting to be with someone even if she never knew this. You could always plead your case that you didn't know it was her. However, this is dependant on if you knew her personally in the last few years to be able to recognize her which you said you did or haven't seen her in a long, long time where people's appearance can change minimally or drastically. In your case, you do know it's her and if you know what's right, this would always remain in the back of your mind as a guilty feeling. You would also be putting yourself in an awkward position for rejection and no one likes to experience that. An SP has the right to refuse anyone...even if she does know them. Please don't go about this the wrong way because it's always possible in her mind that she will consider you a douchebag forever from there on out for calling her out ( esp if she were to find out that you did know her beforehand) and you also have your privacy to think about if you both have mutual friends/acquaintances in common. And let's not forget social media where gossip is rampant. Not everyone is accepting of this hobby. I had an SP friend of mine see a client who claimed to know me from when I was younger and put her on the spot about it by attempting to get it out of her if xxxxxxxxxxxxx was my name. I don't know what was said during their time together. That was not cool on his end or discrete for that matter. If you do recognize an SP online or in public, it's best to keep it to yourself. And don't just show up.. it doesn't make for a good scene that ends on a positive note.

The RULE has been updated as follows:

I was asked to remove the oral comment, instead I will clarify why I will allow this. If the INDIE MA works as OUTCALL or a SINGLE CALL HOTEL ROOM INCAL VISIT they are technically not breaking any laws. This does become prostitution when it goes beyond just a massage to include oral sex or intercourse so offering this or doing this in a massage spa it makes the spa become a COMMON BAWDY HOUSE and that would be very much illegal and I don't think anyone would ever be foolish enough to admit this happened in a public forum such as this.... not to mention I would need to remove the comment as we do NOT discuss ILLEGAL activities on this site. So... Don't assume Claire does this in a spa. She did say "Some Independent MA's DO offer oral" meaning NO SPA AFFILIATE (I hope that is what she means as that is what I read into this) If a SPA ATTENDANT offers a BJ you are NO LONGER IN A MASSAGE SPA you are in a brothel (AKA COMMON BAWDY HOUSE) DISGUISED as a SPA and at risk of being arrested for being in a common bawdy house if the place gets raided while you are inside. Guys... if you want a BJ or something more don't go to a SPA or a CLUB looking for this and if you find a spa where the girl offers this you may want to leave and maybe even send off a email to the spa as they may not know she is offering this either and putting them at risk.

Ottawa will be benefiting from a cuddle service in the new year. I responded to an ad of interest on CL and after some discussion it sounds like she will he ready to go in January. Keep your eyes open. We may need a new section here for this?

Just wanted to see what hobbyiest and SP's think of 15 minute sessions. There must be a need as I see more SP's offering it. But for me short session is 45 minutes. I like one hr sessions. I've done only 1 30 minute session, but found it too short to have fun and get to know someone. In 15 minutes, I assume the clock starts when the door open. That's not enough time to take your clothes off, take a shower and chat a bit. I mean, it must be a real quicky to be in and out of so fast? I guess for some guy's it's all they need to get off quick. But where's the fun in all this. I like to get to know the woman and spend time kissing and chatting first. What's your opinion and experiences with the 15 minutes session? Just interested in peoples opinions from both sides of the fence. Hope to hear some interesting discussions.

Great question. Pictures on the internet last a lifetime, and their are many, many people in the city that do not accept this lifestyle. I think that to post your face picture would eventually be regretted. Friends, family, employers, nephews ... the list goes on. I've been working in Winnipeg for quite a while now, never showing a face picture. The men I have met from this board have all been wonderful. They did need to see a body pic, and of course the flirting is fun ... You can meet very sexy, generous men ... as long as you are sexy & fun yourself... with no face pic. Welcome Sultry Nikki, to the industry/lifestyle, I hope you enjoy it as I do ;-)

I'd go with the March date. This last one was so well organized which leads to so much fun that it is worth the wait. As for name tags, two thoughts. I seem to remember from the first Social I attended that there were no name tags because of the "civilian" wait staff. Second thought... name tags make it too easy. Each of us who is curious about another of us should take their courage in their hands and go ask. At this most recent gathering, I was asked - which made me feel good that a stranger was interested enough to ask - and I asked - and I think that asking will lead to something interesting. :)

I saw these recently and they are perfect. Gotta love CMJ

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Congratulations Brad on this cerb milestone. Thank you for being one of cerbs most polite, sincere, unbiased and friendly cerb gents:) Keep posting;)

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I think people should grow up seriously wether you believe in it or not wishing someone merry Christmas or happy holidays. They should take it as the sentiment it's the thoughts that counts. To get offended for something so petty is ridiculous. Merry Christmas everyone!

I vote for march 20th

At my age, well the days of achieving MSOG are long gone. Encounters for me are more than just sex, there is the social aspect too, be it conversation over drinks, maybe dinner out and so on. And sex doesn't, well shouldn't spell the end of the encounter, nothing more enjoyable than lying in bed with the lady holding her, kissing and cuddling. If encounters were solely about SOGs (for me) all I'd be looking for is a thirty minute date, and that is also factoring in time to get undressed and dressed LOL But I like longer encounters, I've gone from two hours to now three or four hour encounters Anyhow, a rambling RG

So interesting to see this . I had an email today explaining that he had a 10 inch penis and can come 4-6 times in an hour . Guess who is not visiting Katherine ?

I have done this both ways myself . If you want to blindfold me that is fine and dandy , unless you are restrained you can always remove if nervous. I do get requests for this so I have some hoods which are even better than a blindfold . I very much enjoy this but but periodocially check with my date, ask how are you doing etc . In a situation like this I believe The Golden Rule is very important !

I generally read MSOG as nothing more than an assurance that it will not be cum-clean-go situation... i like to spend time with the ladies I see so I book longer appointments and stay (not overstay. lol) Multiple Shots.... seldom but my macho side requires that I always keep the option open lololololol

Of course ... I frequently have dreams about the ladies I see. Perfectly normal it seems to me. Although I will confess that my dreams usually involve the physical part of the encounter. For about three years I saw one lady fairly regularly. When she invaded my dreams I knew it was time to make an appointment. Porthos.

I am not sure I would proceed with a booking but if I did I would tell her first who I was.

Snowblower... as another old guy... LOL But i do use the shovel to help out a friend or 2.. Conventional or synthetic oils..?

Sounds like it could be Maya. As far as I know she is still there. -W10

Right now..... I'm wearing a black thong with embroidered satin vines.... Xo

I saw Avalynn last night and I have to agree she was fantastic. Her body is just like her pics, thick but firm with beautiful large breasts. IMO she's very pretty too, got a smouldering sexyness with playfullness that tones down the sex appeal making her cute and fun. Her personality is perfect, she knows what she's doing so there is ease and comfort right from the firs minute. The sex itself was close to the best I've had and given that it was our first visit together I think that it would only get even better with repeat visits (which I definately plan to do). She could go from soft and sweet kissing and moaning to screaming out profanities and going at it really wild and hard seemlessly. She was very orgasmic too. Her incall is top notch. I suppose you could call this a reco, but I wasn't sure about posting recos for non cerb ladies in the reco section.

Let's also keep in mind that the focus of CKs diary is Bait and Switch and sometimes potentially dangerous situations. These things are allowed to be posted on CERB too. There is an actual section for this for almost all cities, but it hardly ever gets used. I think these areas could be used much more than they currently are, since B&S/perceived danger covers a lot of the most serious issues with providers. CK doesn't post negative reviews or subjective information about ladies. The info he posts is not usually a matter of opinion, which "reviews" are. That's the difference. While I am not in favour of "review" sites, I do think that getting out information about b&s/dangerous situations is important, and will only benefit the honest providers, the honest gentlemen, and the industry overall. This is not the same as posting negative (and often hurtful) reviews about perceived appearances, services, expectations, etc, which are all always subjective and always YMMV. (And btw, life is YMMV. The phrase existed long before online escort communities.) I don't know about others, but just from casual browsing, I find it pretty easy to figure out by looking at ads, websites, photos, recos, etc who is legit and who's probably not. I don't understand why it's so hard for others to figure this out. And I find it unfortunate that there is still people who think it's appropriate to publicly post about such intimate, and subjective matters having to do with another fellow human being who may just have had a bad day or didn't like the cut of your jib. Thankfully, for the perfection-seekers, the sex-robots will be here soon enough! ;)

And what of the interests of the spa's owner, who loses the entire business if it's shut down by LE? What of all the other MAs who are suddenly out of a job through no fault of their own? What of the unfortunate client who, despite never having asked for or received anything more than a normal MA session, happened to be there when the place was raided? The MA at a spa who offers BJ/FS puts all these people at risk every time she does so, whether or not she stops for a moment to think about it. I have no doubt that the spa owners explain this to their MAs; I have equally little doubt that some MAs are more concerned with their own short-term financial gain than the long-term viability of the spa they work at. So an owner who can't control this is incompetent? I really don't get that. What controls do you think a competent owner should put in place? Do you want to be supervised during your massage? Would you prefer cameras in the rooms? If neither of these, what do you suggest?

I'm sorry but when I read those last two sentences it sounds like something from a prison or mafia movie. Maybe this makes me not a real man but I can think of plenty of situations in life where everyone would have been better off had someone spoken up when they witnessed a wrongdoing. Bullying or assaults certainly come to mind. Things like that continue and cause harm so often because no one does come forward. Now, a spa attendant offering an illegal service may not be at the same level as that, of course, but they are still putting their coworkers, visitors, and owners of the premise at great risk, without their knowledge. If they were doing something illegal that could only hurt themselves you might argue that it was their choice and should be left to them. But in this case if others acting in good faith end up arrested or closed down because someone else was being "a real man" I don't think they'll thank anyone.

In other words trying for a cheap deal!!! I like the direct approach lol!

Few to no telemarketing calls -- long distance was very expensive so only local businesses would call. Phones without caller ID -- as kids we could fearlessly call random numbers and ask "Is your refrigerator running?"

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I was a dancer on and off for 3 years.. I still am but I'm more off than on. I am the type of girl that needs to chat before CR. I'd like to say something here that makes you feel appreciated but in reality it is because I can tell if the guy is going to be a problem by talking to him. I'll take the time to get to know someone so that I feel safe back there. I do however understand that girls need to make their money and my way of doing it often doesnt work out. Think about it, you spend half another chatting with a guy who takes you for one dance or, worse, none at all. Many dancers play the numbers game and they make more than I ever did - do they have as much fun? do they have more problems? well thats the risk we all take. Also, please understand that lots of girls nee to get in the mood. Dancing should be done by those who enjoy it.... but it used to be very good money so women who really had no business pursuing it did. Those girls need to "get warmed up" slowly when they come to work. They have a few drinks, take hours to get ready and then stand around. Ladies who love it even have issues when it is dead sometimes. It sucks performing on an empty stage. All this to say that I think dancing is a dying thing. I think too many get in to it for the money alone and it has ruined it for thos eof us who enjoy the art and the fun. I'm sorry that you ran in to these issues. They are too common

15 minuets isn't long enough to get to know you enough to know whether or not we should actually be naked together. I have a 2 hour minimum for a reason. If it isn't fun for me then I'm not playing. I do understand there are those on a limited time frame but I genuinely believe that they never get out the door in 15 mins thus they should take a 30 min option offered by those providers that specialize in in shorter visits. I just don't get 15 min sessions... cat