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I think you are over-thinking this, not once has someone brought me a gift, card or made a gesture of some sort and my immediate reaction was "he's doing it to curry favour" I simply assume they are doing it to be nice. We share an intimate moment with the people we meet, often they get to know us quite well and we get to know them. It's actually quite odd because in some instances I know ladies don't even know the names of their clients yet you know their bodies, you often know what their daily stresses are and you know a good deal about their dreams, goals and personal fantasies as well. There is intimacy in that and it's not at all unusual that someone will provide a token of appreciation for that relationship,or a gift to wish someone well when they have taken ill, it's normal to show concern for those around you. I would be surprised to think any lady automatically assumed you were trying to use that token to leverage her for more than she might usually offer. The only thing I will say is that for some companions flowers can be uncomfortable to receive simply because they are not always discreet, if she sees a number of men on any given day then a person walking into her room with a bouquet of flowers might be conspicuous. Take that into account and consider her personal situation, does she have a private entrance, would that be a concern for her? Personally I love having fresh flowers in my room, though I only host when travelling so they need to come with a vase, but not every lady does. Tea, a gift card for a pedicure, or even some nice candles might be easier to hide in a little bag if discretion matters. I am sure she'll appreciate it.

I am off to an appointment tomorrow with someone who just recently got over the dreaded holiday illness, and I thought that bringing flowers would be thoughtful. Would I look too much like I was begging for extras, or would it be looked at in the spirit in which it is intended?

While I'll say again, don't tell your SO the gritty details of things done, one absolute no matter what, DON'T EVER TELL HER THE NAMES OF THE LADIES YOU SAW. The ladies are discrete, you should be too The companions you saw weren't the cause of what you are going through now and don't deserve to be drawn into this. Your SO, if she found out may be vindictive to them. This is between you and your SO, nobody else Unless too late, clear your browsing history on your computer and wipe your phone logs and contacts on your cell phone. And a word to the wise, for those with SO's, clear your browsing history on your computer after each use and phone logs and contacts on your phone Good Luck An early morning rambling RG

Found that I had couple of hours of free time and decided last minute to go get a massage, as I had just come from the gym, and had worked out hard as I had not had time to go during the cold spell. I have been admiring picture of Kristie for some time as Vibe had started to give us a preview about their latest MA. There is not much on her, but what I could find was that she gave a great massage and were several members favourite. She was being compared to Gina, who is one of my favourites. So I took a chance and called and found that she just had a cancellation and I had the time slot. So fate must have been on my side. This is the first time I have seen someone without any previous Emails, PM's or chats. So I was hoping that made the right choice. When I arrived at Vibe, she was at the reception waiting for me. A beautiful girl that had her hair in tight braids, up in a bun. She wore a bra and panties and high heels that made her seem tall. She gave me a hug and brought me in to the room and started the shower. We took off our clothes, and when she removed her High heels, she was then shorter to me :). She is a spinner, slim, perfect bum and perfect breast, and tanned. She was very beautiful and sexy. Has great sexy eyes also. We begin with a shower, and those that know me, know I enjoy showers. And Kristie was a lot of fun in the shower, she has such a perfect body, and she rubbed it up against me and made sure my whole body was clean, and then again made sure it was clean. The shower was fun :). Then on to the table, where she gave me a really good massage, that was hard and light at times. She is good at teasing and can actually do a massage, which I do enjoy and need :). Body slides felt great, then comes the flip, where she was very erotic. She did things on the table, that I had not seen before in a MA session. She massaged me with her amazing oiled breasts. She was so sexy and erotic, that I did not last as long as I usually do. She cleaned me up and massaged me a bit more. Then invited me to the shower for another hot fun soapy time. Congratulations to Vibe Urban Spa. I think that Kristie will be great addition to the team. Guy's I think you will like her, I certainly did. :) She is Beautiful, Sexy and brings a few different techniques to her massage, that I am sure you will enjoy.

So sweet, who doesn't like a guy holding a flower when you open the door, HOT! for me at least.

I couldn't agree more with RG on this. Keep the ladies you have seen out of this. The last thing they need is potential harassment from an angry and vengeful SO. Porthos

January is Human Trafficking Awareness month. People in the sex industry, clients, and their allies around the globe are posting on Twitter using the #notyourrescueproject hashtag to make sure people understand that not all sex workers are victims of trafficking and to make sure our voices are heard in the debate about what's best for us. It's a pretty nifty read and I encourage people to participate. Here's what I posted: Here is a compilation of some of the Tweets so far for some of the non-Twitter users out there who are curious :) Click Here. Here are a few articles about it if you want more information about how this all started and why it's relevant: Sex Workers Declare They're #NotYourRescueProject with New Twitter Campaign Sex workers and their allies promote hashtag #NotYourRescueProject Not Your Rescue Project

First and foremost, most of this falls squarely on you to figure out. You say you don't know why you hobby so you really should take a hard deep look and figure it out. Maybe there's something you're missing or that you need. Until you figure it out, you will always be stuck in the middle and unfulfilled and your GF will be paying some of the price. You need to have this answer before you can determine how much the relationship is worth. I agree with non full disclosure, why hurt her more than she already is. This is a trust issue. Unfortunately one area of trust rolls into every area of trust, that's how it works which is why it ends up such a big deal. I don't believe in the whole "cheater" mentality in some situations. I very much try not to judge and understand that there are situations where sometimes there isn't much choice. If an SO can't meet needs for whatever reason, I can completely understand how someone can turn to an SP to have their needs met so they don't go crazy and are better equipped to take care of an SO. I don't view them as a cheater because as people, we sacrifice too much of ourselves everyday. You can't shut off needs. We are human and have basic needs that go beyond food, shelter, water etc. Intimacy, touch, connection, sex. Society tries to exclude these factors which is why we tend to get into so much trouble.

Never expected the gift of flowers was meant to be anything more than a nice gesture by someone who just likes to do a little extra. Some guys are taught when young not to visit someone empty handed, it is an old custom that is not followed very often these days. You won't be the first one to have thought of a thoughtful gift of flowers, and won't be the last one, so you don't need to worry about it being misinterpreted as a way to get extras.

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Got a call from the surgeon today. I thought she was going to say that my surgery date was going to be 4 months away.... but to my surprise, she said "How does January 20th work for the gallbladder surgery?" I said, "well that is my birthday BUT... YES!!!" Sooooo... in less than a few weeks, I will be reacquainted with one of the true loves in my life. Bacon. I love you. I miss you. We'll be together soon, I promise.

Flowers are a welcome treat... in the right circumstances. One thing you have to keep in mind is this: Do you know her well enough to give them? Flowers are a very visible gesture... and if given to someone who can display them appropriately, can brighten a day immensely. BUT... 1. Flowers in winter are problematic. They suffer greatly in the transport to and from the appointment. Cold weather is a bad time to give flowers. 2. Some providers just can't take them. If you lead a secret life, you can't accept overt gifts. Flowers have to be displayed or discarded... and if you can't display them, you have to throw them out or give them away. 3. Some flowers are very fragrant and there are people with issues with excessive fragrances. 4. Travelling providers aren't in town for long - and vases are too fragile for luggage and take up a lot of space. 5. Bacon sandwiches make better gifts. Alright, so do perfume, chocolates, wine, small pieces of jewellery, and a lovely financial tip - all of which can be appreciated and kept far more easily than flowers. Just a few thoughts from a hopeless romantic....

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Yes, this is a recommendation board. If people want reviews (good or bad) they need to go to a review board. That said, the "Due to the rules of the board, I cannot comment" response is, by its nature, a negative review. But it is a lot more informative than saying nothing at all. You state that you had 1 visit, and the experience was good. You should "recommend" her then. Or tell us what was good about your visit. Because for those of us that have seen her and cannot comment, we would be interested. Was it recent? Or a long time ago? Which name was she using at that time? What was good about the experience, and why have you stopped at one visit? " but i don't think it's fair that a couple peoples' poor experience keeps surfacing on this board all the time". Yours has been the first positive report I have seen posted about this SP. I guess you are a lucky one that happened to have seen her on a day she lived up to her potential, which there is no doubt exists. Unfotunately, more than a couple of us have not had that pleasure, which is why the "can't comment" posts seem to so numerous in regards to this SP... The board exists so that hobbyists can find good experiences. Review boards exist so that hobbyists can both find good experiences and avoid bad ones. Certain SP's are mentioned more on certain boards...

I dont understand why someone would even try to get business with a pic they do not own? Why mislead someone who is clearly going to see what you look like later? It bums me out that every client that call me has to ask if my pics are real because of fake people posting fake pics. What really angers me is having my pics stolen.

Phone is 587 930 4900 Advertiser's pictures are all stolen from well known website and Twitter site of BubbleGumDolly. I'd almost like to book with her just in case it is her, cause she's pretty hot. But probably better odds with LotoMax!!!

Ottawa will be benefiting from a cuddle service in the new year. I responded to an ad of interest on CL and after some discussion it sounds like she will he ready to go in January. Keep your eyes open. We may need a new section here for this?

Jessicasugarbabe is a delightful young lady. Very pretty face and lovely long red hair. She made me feel very relaxed and welcome. She is happy and bubbly and easy to talk with. She has a couple of tasteful tattoos and her tight little spinner body is all natural. I generally don't see 24 year olds because at my age (58 )it feels a little creepy. But Jessica is very mature and made our hour session very relaxed and the time flashed by very quickly. I won't go into the exact details but this young lady is very skilled! Welcome back to K-town Jess!! The local boys are lucky you have returned!

The reason behind it is because these ladies bank on the fact that about half of the men who book, will in fact stay ( for a variety of reasons) some feel like, well I am already here, might as well. Some guys feel that they need to stay- or will through some money to the sp and not stay-all in fear of being robbed or hurt. Either way, the lying lady makes some money.

Good advice, Summer! Everyone should know that there are more options than the main clinic located downtown. Put the following keywords into Google... ottawa sexual health satellite clinics ...and follow the first link to the City of Ottawa's website that has all the info about the locations elsewhere around town. Unlike the main clinic that does take appointments, I believe the satellite clinics are on a walk-in basis only. During the consultation you will be asked for your family doctor's name by the public health nurse. They ask this only to know if you have access to regular health care, not to notify your doctor of your hobbying lifestyle. Their approach is "no news is good news." If you do not hear from them within 3 weeks after your visit, then you are in the clear.

I ,m sure you guys are getting tired of me recommending this beautiful lady ,So im just going to leave a small note to her on here ,Cassie you made this fifty year old man feel 20 again in the hr we spent together thank you beautiful .(Be nice to her guys she is a special lady )

some relationships work out, some don't. My only advice toward any of this is to spare her the details- nothing positive will come out of that. I speak strictly from my own experience. It's brutal when the other half knows the gritty details and you try and work things out. It's a constant throne! good luck.

Just a shout out to all of you beautiful SPs out on the prairie highways and roads! Please be careful and prepared for this cold cold weather! I`ve seen three fuel nozzles freeze and dump gas all over. I`ve also had to help a few people with cars that wont start. There isn't much worse than being in a broken down car without provisions for heat, candles or those new gel fuel heaters and blankets. It was a balmy -35 celsius here in Wolseley Saskatchewan today with high winds. The next two nights will be just as cold. Wishing I was in Regina or home in Winnipeg so I could warm up with somebody (wink)!!

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Just wondering if many MAs enjoy reverse massages - I thoroughly enjoy providing them. To me its a 'no-brainer', why not work and enjoy a massage yourself?

I agree with Carriemoon, I don't think particular training is needed but certainly patience, understanding and an ability to listen is. I've met with men with different disabilities and had no issues with any of them. They were all lovely gentlemen and we worked together to achieve a fun and satisfying encounter.

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And what about every guy that ever visited an SP? Don't we have preferences for race, hair colour, body size, etc, etc? Maybe we should all just take a number and when it's our turn we get served by the next available lady. That way there's no racism and nobody gets their knickers in a knot. I'm sure the politically correct types would prefer this method. Or maybe not... I'm feeling grumpy. Must be time for bed.

I personally do not care what colour people are but it is really not uncommon for people that are Indian or Black to ask me if I see them. I see everyone as long as they are clean and respectful. Multiple responses that I have seen over the years in multiple threads. -If the SP is indian or black and say she doesn't want to see people of her own color, it can be because they are sometime small communities and everyone know everyone and she doesn't want to be recognize. It seem especially for East Indian providers. -She may have a pimp. But to be honest, you CANNOT compare this industry to any other. Not food services, you cannot claim humans rights etc. A restaurant is public establishment that provide a service. An SP is a PERSON that provide a service. A person has feelings and preferences. You are kissing, touching, putting your penis in her vagina. this is intimate and cannot be compare. What if the SP may have try to have sex with black /indians/blue with red dots and is really not attracted sexually to them? In our civilian life it happen all the time that people states they may have sexual preferences for x races or y hair color. While I do understand it may be discriminatory you cannot ignore someone personal preferences. In my eyes... Would you enjoy having sex with someone knowing they are forcing themselves to be there with you?

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I think pretty much most of them do, however, practicality would sometimes rule it out, like for example if you've taken a 30 minute session, there won't be much time for your own massage if you're giving a reverse.

I know that Jessica asked me (seductively) right away if I wanted one now and then later. This girl just loves giving. lol

Hi Jake.. This thread I beieve has miost of the info you are looking for... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148646 Just in case here is answer to each of your individual question... Are private appointments different from appointments in a business environment? A: Service will even be different within the same business as all MAs have their own style, personality.., likes and dislikes so you cant even break service from business like to indipendent,.. as MAs are individuals and everyone is different... Is it rude to ask about the fees beforehand? A: No it is not rude to ask for fees in advanced.. You will find that when you contact a business they may not mention the tipping options... again they can range between 60$-120$... Independents usually will provide you with all inclusive fees and packages... but Also ladies in Spas (i will include myself) can provide you with All inclusive packages and when you compare them It will come to being similar... pretty much the same... the only difference is when you go to an independent she does not have to pay a door fee but some portion will cover rent and other expenses that help run her business... Ladies at a Spa have a set door fee that varies between 40 and 80 depending on the length of the session.... I know that the fees are not to be discussed at the door but can they be determined before going in? A: say you decide to show up as a walkin at a Parlour..., the lady may invite you in the room and you can have a chat about the fees... even before you decide to stay or not... again depending on the level of service you are looking for you are looking between 60$ and 120$... on top of the door fee... I know that the fees are not to be discussed at the door but can they be determined before going in? A: I cant really answer that question.. all I can say is.. there is lots of ladies here on Cerb that may work out of a Spa BUT they book their appointments on their own same as an independent will ... My suggestion is check out what ladies interest you... and if she is part of a spa and dont have a way fo contacting her directly aside from the spa number... talk to the managers they most likely will be able to answer most questions... dont be afraid... Hope this helped....

Btw, there's a few new women at Vibe Urban Spa!! I can't wait to have time to see them. If they are as good as Gina, Alyssa, Tya and all the other nice ladies who already work there... it's gonna a must-see in Ottawa!!

Has this ever happened to you? What would be your reaction? I need a translator for german to English...Anyone? So hot!

They've eased up on the unrealistic expectations on women... now it's time to hit the guys. No one has arms that long. I can't wrap my arms around you twice. I cant reach the stuff that is on the balcony of the person who lives above us. I can't grab the balloon for the kid who's crying as it floats away.... dammit.... I'm just a man.

Nice question! I would say that you can't go wrong with either of them! Both great women! And Vibe Urpan Spa is an awesome place!! It's a must-see in Ottawa! Clean, awesome women, good location!!

I am now drinking moonshine. I have to get up at 4:30 to milk my cows and it is now 11:26. I have re-read all 14 pages of this thread and still think it's the best thread on CERB. I hope I can get to sleep. My heifer barn is 100' from my house and #437 is dead in heat and has been screaming for a bf since this afternoon. My wife should be more like #437.

1/Leo....August 2/Virginity lost at 16.......she was drunk, a former girlfriend, and demanded it of me. 3/Grew up on a farm and still farm for a living......cattle, horses, dogs, cats. I am still profoundly content with a live birth. 4/Played hockey competitively until completing college and then decided to find the fun in it again and went rec league. 5/ Motorbike license in '83, first bike was a 750 Interceptor and now drive 1800 cc's of sport cruiser 6/ Loved fast cars.....had a Mustang and a Trans-Am 7/ I grew up being a voracious reader but now mostly read business material 8/ I got a dog, tractor(s), pickup (4 wheel drive, lol), and love country music......but I am not a redneck..although I do make moonshine 9/ started training for a private pilot license, but had to stop due to time constraints.......same with martial arts 10/ I am a very social person with compassion for others and a decidedly non-antagonistic demeanor......life is too short.

CERB is absolutely tremendous help with "finding the right service", which is the most important thing. There are plenty of recommendations here with quite a bit of detail, so you can really understand why someone is being recommended and whether those reasons match your own tastes. What you'll get with a warehouse of "negative comments" is a way to identify wrong services. Who needs that when CERB already helps you find the right ones? That we don't dwell on the bad stuff here doesn't make us "limited", just civil and positive. You can still get everything you need to know from CERB to help with your search. Unless you have a morbid fascination with the negative, that is. In which case... you know... I very sincerely wish you success in your search.