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Well how about Ron Howard First as young Opie Taylor on Andy of Mayberry Then as Richie Cunningham on Happy Days And now he's a highly respected movie director Just a few movies he is noted for, Apollo13, Splash, Willow, Backdraft, Ransom, The Da Vinci Code just to name a few RG

I'm having a hard time reading this. It seems to me that a lot of people have preconceived notions, not about the bar but about the girls. Why is it that whenever strippers are brought up we have to bring up all that is seedy? I didn't think this needed to be said but here it is -- there are girls that genuinely like what they do. Exploitation happens, of course it does. I assume this to be the case for street level ladies more than any other group (and this needs to be addressed). Strip clubs are an entirely different ball game. I worked in clubs for years. Yes, girls had crappy boyfriends - who hasn't? Yes, some did drugs - not as many as you think. I met one girl in all that time that had a serious addiction and was dancing to support it. One. Dancers do not make the money that did 10 years ago. I know people like to think we are bringing in thousands a night. Wishful thinking. I heard all types of stories about gangs making girls work to take their money. I've never heard if it happening because it isn't worth it. If anyone who is actually involved in the industry has other insight I would love to hear it but rumour and heresay does nothing but hurt the industry's reputation and that of the girls that work in it.

Just watched this show the other night with Ron Howard as the child of a sheriff, I think it was from the 50's. He was very young and has been acting all his life and has turned out fine and to be a great director as well. Shirley temple as well Fame was different in those days perhaps But then again maybe not as Judy Garland is an example of the negative side of childhood stardom. lol, you beat me to it RG:) thanks for naming the show

I hold doors all the time for ladies. I've never once been chastized for it. Having said that, i also have no objections when they hold the door for me. Porthos

Hard to know if the problem is him, his entourage, his family, etc However, i don't have that much sympathy for people who screw up because they have too much( money, fame or power) and ends up on drugs and doing stupid things. Or for those who don't face the consequences. A non celebrity from a poor part of town with abusive parents that did what he did (vandalism, racing under influence) would be sent to jail without question. Even if Justin have "good" reasons to act this way, i don't get why celebrities get to have favor treatments. (well the money they make for the country obviously, but it shouldn't be that way) I think there is a lot of people and situation where people have it much worst and would need more our sympathy and help. People that actually want to be helped and are trying to get better. (i.e. people fighting deseases, depression or those stuck in countries at war)

The BEST example? Ron Howard. Ron Howard was "Opie" on the Andy Griffith Show as a child in the late 50's to mid 60's and re-emerged as Richie Cunningham in the early 70's on the show "Happy Days" Now? Ron Howard is an Oscar winning director. He directed Apollo 13, A Beautiful Mind, Coccoon, The DaVinci Code, etc, etc, etc.... he also was the creator of Arrested Development. The guy has been continuously and more remarkably, quietly, employed in TV and movies since 1959 - when he was just 5 years old. Now, a month shy of his 60th birthday, he has become the epitome of what may happen if a kid has great direction! ______________________________________________________________________ dammit both of you beat me!!!

Well I'll be the stick in the mud here, but frankly I'm kinda sick and tired of hearing about Justin Bieber. Seems every time I log on to the internet msn.com has another story about him. Funny thing though, for a "singer" none of the stories have to do with him as a singer. To me he's just a spoiled little rich kid. And like redskin pointed out, likely this arrest could be the best thing that could happen to him...judging from the smirk on his face in his mugshot maybe a bit of time behind bars could just smarten him up and give him some humility instead of a sense of entitlement and arrogance My two cents RG

Yes my friends, I have done it "my way"! Some may have noticed that my posts and threads are becoming minimal in nature (could be a good thing!). So as an update, the cancer continues to spread and has started to effect some nerves and cognitive stuff on a random basis. Docs tell me this is what I can expect for a while, nothing major, but all things being equal, by spring, my nerve endings will be really screwed up, memory may or may not be effected, speech may or may not be effected. They looked at me funny when I asked about my tongue! Anyway, hanging in, trying to get rid of this blasted cold provided to me by some uncaring asshole. Will continue to stay in touch while I can, hoping to be good for the next Ottawa Social, that is a focus! Will continue to drive and visit as long as I am able. Thanx, hope you all have a great weekend, play safe, play often and give the ladies lots of licks, kisses and hugs (YMMV)!!!!! Tom TheLiquor

It seems over the last year or so that every other media story out there is a tale of some young person or childhood stars who, older now, has gotten themselves in trouble or caused some sort of scandal or controversy. It's nothing new, I know, but between Lindsey Lohan's drug relapses, the national debate on Miley Cyrus twerking, and now Justin Bieber's arrest, it seems a common story these days and is enough to make one think no young person can be prepared for widespread success. So, cheer me up people! Restore my faith! Surely there are a lot of childhood stars out there who made it successfully to a stable adulthood. Tell me your favourite! Share an example! To start, I'll throw out Neil Patrick Harris. One of the shows I grew up on was Doogie Howser M.D: And Neil Patrick Harris is still entertaining today, and seemingly even more awesome and stable in real life than his current t.v. persona:

"Little Stevie Wonder - The Eighth Wonder of the World" had his first hit record at 13 with "Fingertips (Pt. 2). It's impossible to say enough about Stevie Wonder... Ellen Page - Started working on the Pit Pony when she was 10 and the moved on to performances in Rock Candy, Juno, X-Men and Inception. So far so good on the personal front. Julie Andrews - Starred in UK theatre productions when she was 13 and then Mary Poppins, Sound of Music and Victor/Victoria. She's made it to 78 so I think it's safe to say she made the transition to successful adult ;-) Anna Paquin - Second youngest person to win an Academy Award at 11 for Best Supporting Actress in The Piano. She's also done Fly Away Home, Almost Famous, X-Men and True Blood. (Tatum O'Neil was the youngest Academy Award winner at 10 for Paper Moon, but unfortunately hers is a different story entirely.) Tony Williams - OK this pick is a little obscure, but I think it's amazing that he lived to be a clean and successful adult. Tony was the most influential drummer since the 1960's and began playing with major jazz artists when he was 13 and joined Miles Davis when he was 16. Considering he was around significant hard drugs and alcohol on a daily basis during his adolescence it's amazing that he never developed any addictions. Unfortunately he died at 52 following minor surgery. Scarlett Johanson - Started in film when she was 10 and major roles when she was 12. Other than the usual celebrity gossip about her love life, she seems to have made the transition OK.

Drew Barrymore

Mayim Bialik...or as most of you would remember her, Blossom: Of course she's now on The Big Bang Theory, and in between she managed to pick up a PHD in neuroscience!

Here a couple of photo's I thought would be nice to share:) I took these in Cuba while visiting a family that lives in a small village out side of Varadero. Hope you like them!

The gorgeous and philanthropic Leonardo Dicaprio.

Hilary Duff, for someone who is more of a contempory of Beiber and Cyrus. She was a cute child star, she didn't do anything really stupid, she grew up and still didn't do anything stupid, got married, had a kid, still being offered roles so she doesn't have to go off the rails and do anything stupid. :) I think Shirley Temple did not make the transition into a teen or adult movie star, which I think suited her just fine. She had a chance to become US Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia and a few other appointments, including representative to the UN. She also apparently sat on the boards of corporations and organizations, including Walt Disney Company, Del Monte Foods and National Wildlife federation. which i find interesting lol. My mother was a huge fan of Shirley Temple, who was born about a year earlier than she was, so i know a lot of ST films and biography lol.

Most times, whenever a child becomes a star, they stop being a child in the eyes of their parents and become a golden goose instead; a revenue stream to be managed. Most adults aren't capable of handling that kind of fame and celebrity, let alone a teenager, and when his parents decided he was a cash cow and no longer their son, his story was destined for a tragic ending (which I don't think we'll see quite yet). I'm not absolving him of responsibility, but his negligent, greedy parents are just as guilty.

Not all men are gentlemen, and not all women are ladies. I don't think such response to your chivalry would come from a lady's mouth. I think you always win at being a gentleman, and it's their own lost if they don't appreciate perfect manners.

Wil Wheaton of Stand by Me / Star Trek TNG fame. Now a successful author as well as still appearing on tv as a guest star once in a while.

When you've had enough and at your wits end, having a dog come over and put his chin on your lap. Dogs KNOW when you have had a tough day... and they are the best at making you feel better.

The best way to find out about our club and membership is to book an orientation. We will be more then happy to assist you in your decision about joining. CMJ definitely isn't for everyone but, for many, CMJ is their only, or one of their many choices. The great thing is Ottawa has so many great choices and so many amazing women! Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you, Jasmin & CMJ team Sorry just realized I posted with a staff account that was logged into work computer. Mod if you could change? LOL thank God its Friday, I am exhausted! Jasmin

No that's a common misconception. However, they do tend to attract organized crime. A few clubs I've worked at have a heavy HA presence as they are the ones bringing in the drugs. I do not partake in those activities though so it took me a whole to pick up on what exactly was happening. The pink is actually owned by a lively older lady and run my her brothers. Her son does the cleaning. It's a family business

Duo etiquette rules: 1. Choose providers who either have seen each other naked or can stomach seeing each other naked. 2. Choose providers of the same species or genus. For example, do not ask if a provider will work with a chia pet, velociraptor or plank of wood as a duo partner. 3. If you have a kink about clothing, make sure that one or both of the providers do not show up in the same outfit you are wearing. One of you is going to look better and the other will cry just a little bit. 4. Establish well before the encounter who gets to be Batman, who gets to be Robin and who gets to be Alfred the butler. You can't have two Batmans. That's an international convention. 5. Establish a bacon friendly environment. Everyone loves bacon and if they don't, they can't be part of the duo. 6. If you own an iguana and it is fed through an ingenious contraption that automatically dispenses food onto an an awaiting plate, make sure that both providers see and understand. Everyone needs to know about reptile dish function. (or was that erectile dysfunction??? Maybe I heard it wrong.) 7. Gifts are nice but be equal in the distribution. You can't give a bottle of champagne to one provider and a package of lime jello to the other. 8. Nobody is allowed to fart. That's against the rules. 9. If you are playing Risk as part of the encounter, always remember to establish in Australia and secure Siam. That's a guaranteed 3 extra guys every turn. Duo chicks dig Risk. 10. Margarine should never be used as part of a fantasy. Always use premium dairy products, not corn or other vegetable based substitutes. 11. There is no 11, please proceed to 12. 12. I was kidding about 11, there is no 12. 13. Skip the clown fetish. It's weird and will freak EVERYBODY out. 14. Lube and crazy glue should never be kept in the same drawer. Trust me on that. 15. If you are new to the duo game, please don't send pictures of your penis to either partner. You'll get penis cooties and be unable to perform. ... that's what I have so far.... but then again, I am tired.

I plan to add a FAQ area on Lyla for posting etiquette and I wanted to ask our seasoned members if they have anything to add before I post it. Posting etiquette (Some for clients, some for providers, some for both) 1 ) Do not discuss providers' rates (unless you are the provider or agency doing the posting) 2 ) Do not comment on a service providers rates being too expensive or cheap! 3 ) Do not discuss street walkers 4 ) Please use discretion! Do not discuss drug use, illegal activities, violent acts and anything that would bring unwanted attention to someone, some business or our community here on Lyla. If you are aware of a illegal activity taking place you should contact the police (not post it here) as posting it here brings unwanted attention to Lyla! 5 ) Do not fight or flame anyone (this includes flaming the lurkers or low post count guys and includes fighting with each other in the PM system) 6 ) Do not spread rumors! 7 ) If you have a problem with another member bring it to the attention of the mod and DO NOT post about it in public. 8 ) Do not post a provider's personal info such as addresses or share this info in a PM unless you are the provider. You risk her safety if you do this! 9 ) Do not ask for prices of providers from other members (you should ask them directly) 10 ) Before you post a recommendation for a provider you should ask her for permission and you should ask her for permission to put one of her photos on the recommendation as well. 11 ) Do not post ads to sell products on the site (free ads are for sex workers, massage spas, etc... not toys, web design, etc...) If you wish to promote a different product or service PM the mod first as we may have banners available. 12 ) Do not post links to porn sites 13 ) Do not use the site to complain about a service provider or post negative reviews! 14 ) Keep the site positive and fun! If you have an issue before posting it take a breath and think "Is it a positive contribution to the site?" if the answer is no... it's most likely not welcome! Additional Comments: If you disagree with a decision a moderator has made, you can PM one of us about it (not post publicly about it).

I'm looking for a very clean up scale sp that would offer greek. Any suggestions? Pm me

I think you are overthinking the purpose of seeing sps and mps. The purpose is to skip over the getting to know you and seeing if we have a connection/chemistry/agreement. When you book an appointment, that is your agreement, a sure thing. with mps, as well there isn't full contact so you get massage, relaxation, touch, all combine to make you more comfortable with your decision to do this in the first place. There is no 100% perfect choice, there are only going to be the best possible choice. If you are having trouble with the first step, then i would recommend that you do not go to a spa/parlour, but rather than you connect with someone independent. This is something that you can email/pm first a few times, and see how it goes. Having said that, there are spa attendants (red named mps) who do have profiles here that you can interact with, depending on your location. I don't think a quick handshake and hello is really going to resolve your issue that you mentioned, actually. So a massageapalooza probably not a great way to meet sps and mps lol.

Johnny Depp was relatively young when he got started with Nightmare on Elm Street, even though he may not be considered a child star.

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"his brain dead fans"- a pretty judgemental broad statement as I'm sure many of his fans are intelligent, normal people that simply appreciate his talent, which in light of his asinine behavior, he does have. And yes I would still feel sorry for him. Those who cause tragedies whilst engaging in stupid behavior are still in need of help, they are still human beings , and are still worth saving. If he had hurt or killed someone that would have been awful and something he'd have to live with forever, that in itself is punishment. Fame+youth+money+idiot friends+useless parents-if they are = a troubled, mixed up, kid with no direction and YES in need of help, not condemnation! It's always easier to write someone off when they "fuck up" time after time instead of trying to understand why and offer help or a solution.

^This x 1000! To anyone who feels sorry for him...what if he had killed someone while drunk and drag racing? What if he killed YOUR kid? Would you still feel sorry for him? I'd love to see him do jail time but he has way too much money, as usual, he will face zero consequences for this. His brain dead fans are probably taking up collections to help him out.

Amsterdam: Sphinx observatory, Jungfraujoch, Switzerland: Hide & seek:

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I had a history professor in university who was a die hard feminist. One day after class had to go with her back to her office, can't remember why, likely going over outline for a paper. Anyhow walking to her office, she was carrying a bunch of books, a briefcase and her purse. I offered to help carry something for her but she declined. Then we came to a door and she rushed ahead just so I couldn't hold it for her. Second door and any doors from then on I rushed ahead just so I could hold it. Even when we got to her office, she wouldn't hand the books and briefcase to me while fumbling for her keys to unlock the door She just was adamant that women are equal to men and didn't need their help. Me, I saw someone with their hands full and offered to help A rambling RG

Welcome to cerb! I was actually the same age and a virgin when i saw my first sp. Best choice i made 3 years ago. If you have any questions or need help, don't hesitate. =) -Frank

Happy birthday Peachka - have an amazing one!

Happy birthday buddy! Have yourself a little bit of fun!

Happy Birthday Peachka, have yourself a great one!!!

Happy Birthday Peachka Enjoy your special day RG

first sip of coffee in the morning.

Wishing a happy birthday. Hope you had some fun on your special day.

perhaps our eyes need to be washed by our tears once in a while , so that we can see life in a cleaner view again nobody can change a person but someone can be the reason for a person to change if you think adventure is dangerous , try routine , it is lethal we are born in one day we die in one day we can change in one day we can fall in love in one day anything can happen in one day speak in such a way that others love to listen to you listen in such a way that others love to speak to you a women can't change a man because she loves him , a man changes himself because he loves her sometimes we expect more from others because we are willing to do more for them

From my perspective I want to spend my time with a SP who is happy that i am there and comfortable with me so i would prefer that the SP be very honest up front... just like i am sure she would like me to be. The most successful meetings I have had with ladies is where there has been some sharing of information and interests long before we meet.. it allows for both her and I to determine if that connection is there that will make for a great time together. I would rather that the lady said no thanks then have her not enjoy her time with me as I know that will impact the quality of the session. Just my opinion

I would love to find spinner type lady who offered this.

Thanks Megan! I recently recieved a PM saying: "Yo Gab, 25 year old male here. How much for an hour? I really want to F@!k you." I kindly replied to the "gentleman" and explained that the hour would be free since we would not be spending any time together! MOD, any way of blocking certain members from contacting us again after receiving a PM of this type? Thanks!