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I think it's great that some people who received visits felt at ease with the police. However, there are reports from some workers who felt intimidated. From what I hear, the police who visited spas came with a female officer and left business cards. Some of the independent providers who received a visit received four male officers and a number written on a scrap of paper. That's a big difference in how the visits were conducted. Also, a spa is a space that is publicly known, and there is usually more than one attendant present. Most incall locations are not -- that's why independent providers do not list their addresses in their ads. The police booked with independents as a guest, meaning that provider was expecting a client, not four police officers. Think about the power dynamics when you have a single, usually female provider, who may be dressed in lingerie, alone with four men. Nat and I were discussing this and she gave me the perfect comparison: what if the police went around knocking on all the doors of married people to find victims of domestic violence? I doubt that would be very well received. I would also be curious as to whether any male providers were visited. Or do the police think that only female providers can be victims of trafficking?

How did I miss this thread? Short answer: ABSOLUTELY. Not a single day goes by without me sharing time with a provider. No. Let's change that. Not a single day goes by without me sharing time with my friends, most of whom have or have had careers as providers. My friends are the most amazing people. They are funny. They are charming. They are sweet and sexy and vibrant. But best of all... they're people just like me. We laugh, we vent, we cry and we enrich each other's lives. Will it happen for you? Maybe. No guarantees. You can't force friendship like you can't force love. All I know is that I love my friends, and my friends love me... and it feels so good.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2513112 Aimed at human trafficking, or so they say. I can't imagine how is feel if I was one of those ladies.

Good for Bell to raise funds and awareness . In Nova Scotia we have many people that have fallen between the cracks due to this terrible illness. So many people are ill that we don't realize. I used to work for a doctor and that is how I became very aware of this and how it affected so many people. The practice I worked at treated mostly woman and the patients varied form those that were visibly ill to highly successful business women. This was a very busy practice as well because Halifax is so short of every type of doctor and mental health specialists are in highest demand. Awareness is one of the first steps so lets all have a great day texting and tweeting . We will all be doing out share.

First, they "fucked with" providers when they booked under false pretenses. They are claiming that they sat down with a number of organizations to discuss tactics before this operation, yet conveniently left out the ACTUAL voices of sex workers. Not one sex worker rights organization was contacted. Secondly, no, the workers did not have to let the police in. However, if you were at an incall and had the police at your door announcing themselves as OPS, I can guarantee you'd let them in to avoid having your neighbours hearing. Once inside, the stories differ. One worker said they asked before looking into apartment rooms, she gave permission and that's all they did -- look. No doors opened. Another worker told them they did not have permission to search her location, yet they did, going so far as to open closet doors. When she got between them and the door, they told her that if she touched them it could be considered assault against an officer. The only grain of salt I am taking in regards to what is being portrayed in the media is what is being said by Ottawa police. They issued a press release today that is just so factually incorrect: http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/MediaRoom/NewsReleases/14-01-28/8c3172c6-7799-4b38-a93e-bd5ab9f0f4cf.aspx "Over 330 women, some as young as 15 years of age, were interviewed. Police found some were being forced to perform sexual acts, multiple times a day, for paying male customers." ONE person under the age of 15 was found, in Halton. ONE. That is not "some". http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/ontario-woman-arrested-in-trafficking-of-teen-sex-worker-1.2509823 "In Ottawa, 16 officers from Central, West and East District participated in this initiative and a total of 29 women were interviewed, some as young as 19 years of age. Officers utilized the internet to identify individuals involved in the sex trade and through investigation found their locations. Officers attended the locations and conducted interviews to determine the level of control, if any, being exercised." Last I checked, 19 was legal. This is pure fear mongering. And were there any individuals being coerced? Who knows! They didn't say! (Hint: none. Johnston is quoted as saying so.) They end the press release by commenting on a trafficking arrest that happened LAST YEAR. No sting required to catch that one! But hey, it makes us look good, and if we throw a blurb in about the individual being charged in 2014 maybe John Q. Public won't notice.

Personally.... I suspect this is all because of the laws being challenged and changed. I suspect the powers that be are going to do stuff like this so they can "prove" that all this bad stuff they are desperately looking for exists (and if you look hard enough in any business you will find bad people doing bad things). Once again the ladies human rights are being pushed aside... If the police get a tip that someone is being pimped well that is one thing (get a warrant, search the house and then your doing good) but to randomly make fake calls to indie ladies without any evidence to back a search warrant and using this as an excuse to search for pimps!??!?!? Ladies are getting a LOT more organized these days and working together, if they keep doing stuff like this we are going to see a lot more court cases as individually most are scared to fight back and allow human rights to be infringed on (they accept that harassment and intimidation is part of it) but with the internet and community forums sites like cerb and others.... the ladies are no longer alone and are starting to stand up for themselves finally!

I really don't get why the service ends once a true friendship evolves. Explain please!

There are so many rules and stigmas that society places on us and we tend to look at every situation through this biased filter. Every person is unique and so is every relationship had by two people. There are so many variables in any situation base don the people involved that how can anyone say for sure that it will or will not be this way or that? If one wants to follow society rules and ignore their inner voice or their heart then sure, it's gets easier to structure life and relationships but I for one would rather determine how a relationship works based on who is involved and their situations at any given point in time. You cna be a friend and a client, you can be a friend but not a client. You cna also be a lover in either situation. Or you can determine that nothing can happen because it's not traditional or fitting with the rules and perhaps lose out on something amazing. I believe relationships can be whatever we want and need them to be. They just have to be consensual, positive, open and honest.

I had to put down my almost 20 year old cat today. The house is going to feel empty now.

Here's the link where you can find all the ways to support this wonderful cause, Mrrnice mentioned them but for those who prefer to have a link or are interested in learning more about Bell Let's Talk

I think they handled it badly, but i also think they intended to handle it badly when it came to the independent sps working alone. I don't think any reasonable person would think that 4 officers would be needed when they go to a location knowing the sp is expecting a single male appointment guest. There is little chance anyone else will be there, and if there was someone else there it would be at most one person, female. They only needed 4 officers to go into a spa, a place with several rooms and multiple people, but they think that is sufficient. But two officers at a single indy sp wouldn't be? And all male as well, ? I think ensuring the safety of an sp who advertises above a certain minimum age and has what is obviously a professional and business like ad/site is a waste of time and resources, so I can only assume the intention was a shake down.

I have a few clients that I consider friends as well as clients. I have clients that I feel quite comfortable with, and we both tell each other personal things that are going on in our 'civilian life' A few of my clients and I talk via text or email often, almost daily, just to see how each other is doing, and so on, and I feel that if we are to have that much communication, as well as the trust we share with each other, then it must be a frie3ndship. I understand that it is not the same a the friendship you have with your long time buddy from highschool but in the end it is still a friendship In our life we come across many different types of relationships, and may different dynamics of friendships, and the SP/Client relationship/friendship is just another type In the end, I truly care for all of my clients

I seen this one on the weekend actually, and although i found it quite tricking trying to get a hold of this SP through the number she put up on BP. So i stopped trying, then i seen her at SB at polo park mall, and normally out of being discreet and professional i would never call out someone who does this on the side. So i sent her a text, to see if she would reply but of course i had to wait until she was done with her order, but as she waited, and then i waited, i couldn't resist and i spoke to her in her 1st language, and she acknowledged :) i kept looking around to see if anyone caught on, on what i was talking to her about, but no one looked over, so we left and i spoke to her in more detail outside and we went back to her in call :) i am not sure if YMMV applies to this one, maybe? But i had no trouble in receiving on what i asked for. Although like WR just said, she does offer BBBJ, but i went with CBJ, CFS, COF,CIM, DATY, LFK, 69. she took her time too, we went past HH so i tipped. i think i got caught up more in her accent and we were able to converse in that language. Would i repeat? Yes :) Have fun, Be safe! CHEERS PS69

I can't do last minute bookings . I need at least and hour or two I am not sitting here with straight hair, looking my best and I need time to possibly screen you and even more importantly start to get in the mood . I am not a machine and its really nice to have that time to chat the enjoy the feeling of expectation . I really love something to think of prior, this can only lead to the very best explosive times. For those that do short notice my hat is off to one and all, great job ladies . Its so much to be able to have many ladies to cater to every need . Some gents like the fast drive through experience and I always say we all deserve to get what we desire . For me though, I am very diverse . I am a teacher of holistic and natural remedies and I do my best to work around this. You never know what your lady of choice may be doing in another part of her life so just ask , I will do my best to see you but it may not always be possible. So many things to consider in out busy world ...

I am over fifty so anyone I visit is younger than me, I will comment from my point of view. I have met a certain lady just over forty about three times in the lays six months every time it gets better and better, I have being with a couple of Ladies in their twenties that were special also. Being polite and respectful with what ever aged lady you see is one way to make sure your visit is a experience you remember or rocking as you mentioned, you will develop a little more Chemistry with some more than others which makes it even better. Since I have joined Cerb any lady young or old I had the privilege to share a short time with has being nothing than spectacular, thank you ladies.

Well, to share how I chose my CERB handle is to share how I came to decide on my SP name 🙂 When I was in the industry in the past, I had a quite formal, 'highfalutin' name; a novelty at the time, but it felt stiff and unlike me after a while. My name now has an accessible quality, which is important to me and how I want to put myself out there... a sweet but also a naughty ring to it...conjuring an image of a tarted up woman with a twinkle in her eye, jauntily swinging her 'goodies' side to side 😜

Well just to add to the discussion there is a really wise quote I will use. No not from me, but from none other than Nathalie Lefebvre Money does not necessarily corrupt authentic love and intimacy, rather, it's our discomfort with the idea of mixing both that causes tension. I think it's important to keep in mind that most relationships have unnegotiated financial dynamics (for example, many marriages and long-term relationships) which can cause much more tension than the honest and open communication that's possible with clients in this industry. Now Nathalie's quote was in another thread, and it is about love and intimacy. But I would argue by the same token that money also does not necessarily corrupt authentic friendship I would also add that those of us in this lifestyle, be it companions or clients would be more open to accepting the possibility that relationships can develop. The relationship may not take the "normal" form of a friendship compared to civilian friendships, but then again this isn't a civilian lifestyle, it is very unique, with no comparisons to civilian life. Just because you see a companion who is a friend in a paid encounter doesn't minimize the friendship JMHO If a client and companion are lucky enough to connect as more than SP/Client, but also friends, they should cherish that friendship. A rambling from a guy who finds no discomfort or tension with friendship being mixed with money RG

Email money transfer is the best way to exchange money if not in person. There are honest, local ladies that have been successful in Winnipeg. I have never "ripped anybody off." Your best bet is to see who has positive reviews and has been around for a while. We are not all out to get you.... Well maybe to get you to have some fun ;)

I try 3-4 days ahead of time with the understanding that if a last minute thing pops up I might have to re-schedule. Only happened twice to me in a few years though. This way I can fantasize for days about the upcoming meeting..

I have met a number of SP's, a few I have met on multiple occasions and have formed what I would call a Client Friendship... we know a fair bit about each other and are very comfortable with each other..in all of these cases I would expect that this friendship would only continue to exist while I am a client and neither of us have expectation that the friendship is anything other than what it is a fully matured business relationship. Now having said that... I have, I think, formed a much deeper personal friendship with one lady I have met... in this case the lady has over time come to know more about me than many of my long term civilian friends. We have chatted and shared and supported each other over the time we have known each other and I think that "friend" part of our relationship could continue even if our business relationship ended...lol.... but to be honest the only way to know that would be to end our business relationship but...i would have to be Stupid to do that. What I have always understood about our relationship is that I would be neither a Friend or a good client if expected her to share her time or her services with me for free or at a discount So I have always tried to ensure that I never make her feel like I have taken her for granted.... my respect for her and for our friendship requires that I take responsibility for this. Are we actually friends.... i think we are... but really does it even matter... it is a relationship that adds value in my life... Fuck that's more than enough for me. Just my opinion.

Great Suggestion!!! Socials are a great way to meet the Ladies being MAs or SPs.., you get to chat, put faces to the Hot bodies.., and that way you can really see if you have some sort of chemistry... and Guess what... the next social is just in a couple of months..

Civilian sex usually ends up with strings attached Seeing a professional companion, no strings Yes seeing a professional companion you pay, but civilian sex YOU PAY:-) RG

I like marriedbutnotdead cause he has a kick ass Cerb handle and his comments are often thoughtful.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/ontario-woman-arrested-in-trafficking-of-teen-sex-worker-1.2509823 Edit: Thought I should also include a few comments for my link posts above and below - these articles may offer further insight. The cops in my experience are pretty straight-up. Don't fuck with them & they won't fuck with you. The police have seen it all & they've been around the block more than a few times. The cops don't just barge in your home or establishment without your permission & make accusations. The media loves to make a story, so take newspaper articles with an extra large grain of salt. Know your rights, protect yourself & citizen privileges. You don't have to admit anyone through your door without proper identification & search documents. https://nfa.ca/resource-items/search-warrants-police-are-your-door-what-do-you-do

Seems the perfect thing for a cold day, spaghetti with meat sauce Sauce is made and on low heat in the slow cooker...apartment smells really good right now Getting hungry already RG

anywhere that doesn't have snow!!!

Depends where your planning to travel, western Canada Telus is best. Eastern Canada Bell or Rogers and be prepares cell phone plans are really expensive compared to the US even pay as you go is twice as expensive up here!

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Though I've never looked to use a provider, my worry is after the first the play time would be over...if I wanted to visit a provider, I'd want to play for the full duration...maybe I get another shot on goal maybe I don't that wouldn't be her fault. And any guy who blames a woman for him being able to have multiple goals within a time frame is pretty lame... I'm sure it happens though.

It will depend on the escort and her schedule. Personally, I need one hour notice for evening dates and a few days notice for daytime dates. I do other things during the business week and need to work around that. What I dislike is people who call and inform me that they can be at my incall location in ten minutes. Most of the time, I cannot get to my incall in ten minutes. Never assume that a SP lives at her incall and never assume that she hangs out at her incall. For most SPs an incall is like a business office. I have booked clients days and months in advance and that is fine. However, do not book days and/or months in advance and then use that as an excuse to constantly contact the SP about your upcoming date. One reminder of the upcoming date a few days before is sufficient and an organized SP will send you that one reminder herself. Do not use advance bookings as an excuse to pester the SP. An average SP has a life.

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Ladies will have preferences, and some need and require notice, but I find the majority are available on reasonable notice, like an hour or so. I rarely pre-book, although this has resulted in not being able to see a few ladies. But you can always book early for that special lady. I do this, since I don't think I can pre-plan this type of activity, and prefer to endeavour when I most feel like it. Anyway, there are definitely options, and you can choose to keep booking ladies with relatively short notice, or you can pre-book, some even offer pre-booking discounts.

With hobbying, the lady has a strong interest in making sure that you leave happy.

Tom....I have not had the pleasure of meeting you but through your post on here I gave a real appreciation for you. The thought and humor that you bring to your posts have given me great joy... thank you for all your contributions here. Unfortunately I will not be able to make it go the CERB Social in March but I look forward to meeting at a future social... in the mean time keep up the fight and let that positive attitude and sense of humour help you when you have those tougher days. You can count on lots of positive energy coming your way from all your friends and admirers here in CERB land.

That's why I enjoy seeing these ladies, they make me feel desired and that I still matter. My age, 52, has not been an issue once. Even if it's fantasy, it feels good.

My vote for 2013: Most sensual: PassionVitto at ALO. Most therapeutic: Emily and Rosa at Bodycare.

Been getting quite a few PMs. I found the service of this young lady to be very good especially given her rates. She got a mixed review on the other review board so obviously YMMV. Considering BBBJ and multi pos I thought the service was excellent for what she charged for HH. I only wanted a quickie so was very satisfied with service but my guess is she has some restrictions which may not satisfy everyone's expectations. In reality if I wanted a PSE/GFE I would pay more and book someone like destiny xu who blew my mind on her last visit. With this lady I would recommend an HH experience and not go for the full hour. Just my two cents

I have had many wonderful visits with various ladies and not one of them could be categorized as 'disappointing'. I feel that the only safer bets than enjoying a visit with any of the lovely ladies here on cerb are death and taxes!

Marie Soleil at centre oceana. Very close to that location and available daytime

mine was easy. I drive a Porsche (pcar). And i am submissive! If anyone needs a lift Let me know assertively.

I have an interest in what things are, and why things are, and how they got that way. It springs from there. Alas, I know very little about motorcycles.

Very interesting thread. It is good to see the many different viewpoints. I myself have been asking myself this very same question for sometime now. In reading the posts in this thread, it has helped me to think and to realize. It is possible to be friends with an SP, but in most cases it would be considered to be a "non-traditional" type of friendship as far as mainstream society goes. I think a "traditional" friendship would not be something that would happen often. My 2 cents.

I see no reason why a friendship cannot exist. I am friendly with other people who provide me with services and I am even a friend of one or two of them. Of course, we must be careful to keep the professional and the personal separate. This is the aspect which can be difficult when the services provided are of such a personal nature. I have not had extensive experience with SPs but I feel a slightly deeper bond with a couple of the women I have met than just the provider/client relationship. I would like to give some examples. Firstly, there was an SP who I had made arrangements to see but then had to cancel because of an aborted business trip. Our correspondence had been fun and interesting and I felt that this was somebody I could like. More recently some events led me to question some of my life decisions and I felt the need to discuss it with someone. I could not discuss it with the people it involved so, on a whim, I sent this provider a message. Her response was empathetic, wise and helpful. Although I have never met this person in the flesh I feel a deeper bond than a simple business relationship. As has been pointed out above, the false names and personae that SPs and clients adopt can prevent the relationship from going too far. However, if and when there has been enough mutual trust built up between the SP and client it is possible to move past that. I am aware of the true identity of one of the providers I see at the moment and she knows that I know. I discuss my personal life very freely with her. Also, the first SP I ever visited became known to me and I to her. Of course, it makes a difference that both of these providers are very open in their personal life about what they do and who they are. Curiously, this is part of what makes me trust them more. They are obviously seriously invested in this business and know that discretion is an essential part of their service. Additionally, I spent enough time with each of them to feel that I could trust them (although it should be noted that this is where a client could be misled by someone trying to con them). In any case, I feel that I could ask for help and I would be willing to provide help (if it was in my power) outside the boundaries of the usual business relationship. To me, this is one of the more important criteria for being a friend.

I agree with Backrubman that certainly a friendship can be established, based on mutual respect, fondness, and enjoyment of each others company, exchanging of thoughtful gifts, including of course, the physical pleasure. But my real life friends know ME, my real name, job, family, hobbies and recreation, share in my stories, secrets, and problems, as I do theirs. True, I share parts of my life, thought and feelings, with certain SPs, but not to the threshold where they really know me, or me them It's quite true though, that, I feel, even the bit of insight I get from seeing an SP in this fantasy realm is enough that I can determine whether or not I would (and do) "like/luv" the whole person, and would be their friend, casual or otherwise outside this context. There are times when I have felt that SPs' I am fond of, had, or are having some turmoil in their personal lives, under their own real names and as much as I feel compassion, and even an urge to ask, and then offer help, I hold back because I think it crosses the boundary of the "friendship" lines that are defined in this particular relationship. I have adopted the motto here that I may not know the real answer to a question I may want to ask, so I dont ask. If they want to discuss something, I hope they are comfortable enough with me to bring it up. But YES, a friendship can exist, albeit unique.