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Not to sidetrack this thread, but I'd like to take a guess at that. I suspect the rationalization that goes through a gent's head is that whatever travel destination and activities he has planned will be so enjoyable that simply getting those expenses covered will be enough to satisfy the donation amount. If a fellow feels like the experience and vacation itself are going to be fun, they assume the lady will as well (and yes, she might) and that this enjoyment will be sufficient compensation for her time. The thought is likely that she'll enjoy the experience just as much as if she was paying--and controlling--her own vacation. Such gents may have the best of intentions, but what I think they don't realize is that this is a form of bartering. In the end, how is offering a trip for a lady's time instead of her donation amount any different than offering a dinner out, fixing her computer, bringing her some good books, or anything else other than her requested donation amount. It is true, the trip itself may be enjoyable. But then, most of us gents hope that a lady enjoys the time she spends with us! This doesn't mean we then get to request a discount because she had fun. :)

Phew! For the benefit of others who don't especially want to read through 30 pages to see what questions have been asked, I've done the work and here's the list so far. ;) Some of these are verbatim; others I've edited down to something brief. The originals may contain additional nuances. I thought this might help get some buried or missed questions answered anew, and possibly prevent duplicate questions going forward. This is now one of my favourite threads by the way! 1. Why did you get into escorting in the first place? (Bmoc68 ) 2. What is the best thing about being an SP? (PisaqLove) 3. How do you react when a client says he loves you? (jafo105) 4. What do you like least about being an escort? (Ice4fun) 5. How do you shield yourself from emotional attachments? (curiousm7) 6. Do you ever want to take a client relationship further? (muncher459) 7. How did you feel after y our fist time as an SP? (PisaqLove) 8. After a while seeing the same person, do you prefer not to see that same person and move on? (frank97500) 9. Has it been important to have friends, confidants, mentors in the business? (Winnipegcub) 10. What would you say to a guy that would love to visit an SP but feels very intimidated and doesn't think he is good enough? (frank97500) 11. Have you ever had a "date" that was so hot that it eclipsed your best experience in your civilian life? (PisaqLove) 12. What do SP's do to mentally prepare themselves for a session? (Jay67) 13. Why have I been asked if I was a former male SP? (frenchbrute) 14. What advice would you give a lady just starting out? What's one thing you wish you had known. (Cute0aza0Button) 15. What can a gentlemen do to make an encounter an enjoyable time for both him and her? (roamingguy) 16. How do you deal with a client you don't want to see again? (jg24) 17. If a potential client is interested in knowing if you enjoy/offer a given activity, is there a "best" way to ask? (Brad) 18. Have you even been recognized on the street? (ottawascout) 19. Do your line of work mean that lack health or dental insurance? Have you no income without work? How do you handle this? (Ice4fun) 20. How long do you plan on being an SP/MA/Dancer? (PisaqLove) 21. How do you determine which of your bedroom activities are YMMV? (curiousm7) 22. How are (some of) you able to make a guy feel you truly desire him every time you see him? (nlwoodchuck) 23. Do you all go to sexual skills university? Or are you all just naturally gifted? Does practice truly make perfect or do you need to study and learn specific techniques? Do you have a sexual move or technique that you tend to go with as your finishing move (emiafish) 24. How do I find out what really pleases a lady and what she actually likes or dislikes? How do I find out what I'm doing right, and more importantly, wrong? (qwertyaccount) 25. Have you ever had a bad encounter that made you question your occupation? (PisaqLove) 26. Has a client ever used a heretofore unknown technique that has rocked your world, and if so then can you share it with the rest of us? (emiafish) 27. How do you treat no-shows? (curiousm7) 28. How do you deal with a bad review? (nlwoodchuck) 29. Do you prefer a man's junk shaved or hairy? (defensedave) 30. Have you ever been turned off by a hobbyist look, attitude, and behaviour? And if so, how did you pull through the time with that person? (frank97500) 31. If you offer duos is it because you like them and are a little bi, or is it just part of the job? (Ice4fun) 32. What do you think has made you different that you can sustain a longer career in what can be a very tough business? (OutForFun) 33. How often do you get requests for costumes or roleplaying? (emiafish) 34. What has been the most surprising thing you've learned or done after being an SP? (piano8950) 35. How common is it, after a client leaves, to think "wow, that was someone I could see myself going out to dinner with."? (curiousm7) 36. What makes a pleasant review for you? (Magician) 37. What does it mean when after a session an SP asks "Can I put your number in my phone"? (qwertyaccount) 38. Is assuring a lady that I've just come out of the shower as good as actually taking a shower right there? (Gentleman11) 39. What is your preference in call, out call client hotel. Are client residences out-of-bounds? (Gentleman11) 40. What advice would you give to a client who is a virgin? And If you meet a client who is a virgin, how would you go about relaxing him? (Jay67) 41. For a paid encounter would you be open to going out to dinner or a movie, holding hands, or walking arm in arm? OR do you prefer keeping things completely private? (jafo105) 42. How important are recommendations to a lady's business? (roamingguy) 43. Is it fun when a man cums on your face? Do you have any private pictures with your face covered in cum? (Ice4fun) 44. Why do most ladies ads list all their physical stats (height, age, weight, measurements, eye color, etc.) but others are silent on most or all of this? (qwertyaccount) 45. What types of gifts do you normally receive and what would you like to receive? (Ice4fun) 46. If you show your face in your pictues here, why did you decide to 'out' your face? Did it result in any change? (piano8950) 47. What jobs/careers that guys have do you find turn-ons and turn-offs? (qwertyaccount) 48. Do you have clients that you are more excited to see than others? (PisaqLove) 49. If a client gives you a gift, is cash a good alternative to a gift card? (Luckyme) 50. What's the craziest gift you have received as an SP? (PisaqLove) 51. Do you ever get tired of dealing with people? (frank97500) 52. Have you ever wanted to meet a particular cerb member in person, and get really nervous due to certain perception or expectation you have of them? (Empty83) 53. Is there a kind of sex work you haven't done but would like to try? (dancer, Domme, escort, massage)? If so, why haven't you? 54. What's the strangest outfit/costume you've been asked to wear? (qwertyaccount) 55. What's the weirdest role-play you've been asked to do? (qwertyaccount) 56. Would it be fun to arrive at a date and be confronted with buckets of oysters? No, c'mon, seriously! (LeeRichards) 57. Do certain times of day attract certain type of clientele? Is there a particular time that is more popular? What part of day or night is your preference? (Empty83) 58. If I were to book a 4 hour session with a SP, the first hours being dinner and the next two hours being an incall, what would the rates be? Would I have to pay for a 4 hour incall rate? (Jay67) 59. At what point in a new relationship do you let a guy know your line of work and how do you deal with the worry that he may judge you? (curiousm7) 60. If a new guy in your life tells you he likes to see escorts, what is your reaction? (roamingguy) 61. Is it okay to contact you on days you don't advertise? (Empty83) 62. Do you prefer the first contact be discrete, or straight to the point? (Empty83) 63. Are sincere compliments on appearance acceptable? What such comments are unacceptable? (igab) 64. Are the apt descriptors "prostitue" and "john" inherently shameful? (mrgreen760) 65. Is writing a recommendation the ultimate compliment you can give a lady? (roamingguy) 66. What would be the circumstances of your retirement from this business? (OutForFun) 67. If a regular client and a CERB menber you've never seen both want to book you at the same time, who gets preference? (Luckyme) 68. What is the most memorable thing a client has done for/with you? (PisaqLove) 69. Have you ever had a client do something sweet/kind/nice that it made you cry? (PisaqLove) 70. What questions can I ask to get a sense of how affectionate an SP is likely to be during an encounter? (Rob360) 71. Would you have any issues with your own parner seeing an MA/SP? (JohnnyCanuck) 72. How many times have you fallen for a client? (Daniel Boone) 73 a, b, c, d.... How do I become the ideal kind of client? Do you generally like regulars more or new clients? What's your definition of a regular client? How long a session do you prefer? Is it cool for clients to contact you to say happy birthdays/merry Christmas etc.? How do you feel about a client sending you a brief thank you note after the appointment? If you contact a client between bookings, is that an open invitation to keep in touch between appointments? (A1B2C3D4E5) 74. What are some of the funniest or strangest text messages you've received? (qwertyaccount) 75. If there's something you offer as stated on your ads and/or website does it necessarily mean that you like to offer that service? Or does it only mean that you're able to tolerate it? If it's the later, why offer something you don't particularly like doing? (A1B2C3D4E5) 76. What unwelcome questions do clients commonly ask? (Darr) 77. Is there a good texting format for same evening booking request? (Darr) 78. Would you ever consider going on an all expense paid vacation to some exotic location, with no sex on the table, just as a companion for no other compensation? (gc1968 )

I'm not an SP, and don't meant to break the intent of the thread; but to offer some perspective... just being around a stranger for an extended time is WORK. Imagine the question was "hey, can my friend come live in your house for a week? There'd be no sex, promise! He'd just be around you ALL THE TIME." The locale, food, and shelter are not sufficient compensation for the service he's looking for; and frankly if the lady wanted those things, she could just buy them herself thanks very much. Your buddy is asking for someone to be around him and be a pleasant companion, 24/7. His companionship in a strange place is not as enticing an offer as he thinks. (Plus, he sounds like a bit of a dick and kind of clueless.) He needs to pay the companion to be there and "on the clock" for the duration of the trip.

Absolutely and without hesitation... NO. I have extended times on my website, including a week, and might I remind you that upscale escorts, the likes of which you'll find here on CERB, don't charge for "services". We charge for our time which is valuable. It's time we are taking away from our family, our friends, OUR lives and that comes at a price. For myself, I have a set price for extended amounts of time. This is purely for my time only. I also require that ALL of my travel expenses are covered (meals, flight, accommodations). In addition, I ALWAYS negotiate an agreed upon amount of alone time for extended dates. I need time to myself as does the person I'm traveling with. Regarding chemistry, I wouldn't consider a weeks vacation with a client I hadn't established some connection with already. That means we've talked, we've had dates already, we've gotten to know each other and established ahead of time that we enjoy each other's company, sexual or otherwise. Hope this helps your friend :) xo

Well although I'm not an SP it has to be remembered first and foremost you are paying for a lady's time and companionship, which can include sex, but isn't always just about sex. A week away on an all expense paid vacation means she is spending time away from her livelihood where she earns an income. Yes to us men this is an escape, for the ladies, their livelihood. She may not be able to afford to be away on this guy's vacation, it'll cost her too much money in lost income. Anyhow my guess an all expense paid "vacation" for a lady where she doesn't get compensated for her time will cost her too much money in real terms...be cheaper for her to pay for her own vacation without the man coming along A rambling RG

That being said, a laptop connected via HDMI cable to my Panasonic 54" 1080p Plasma HDTV renders certain umm... adult entertainment into a glory to behold. Oh, and HDMI cables? The only quality difference between a dollar store $5 cable and a $25 one is the connectors on the cheap ones are easier to break if you move them around a lot. If you are going to plug it in and leave it, $5 will do ya. The signal quality will be the same for the $5, $25, and $100 cable. It's a digital signal. It either gets through the cable or not. The signal only has two modes. It is there or it isn't. Chucking money at it will not improve it. If you are old enough, you can remember when cables carried analog signals that were susceptible to attenuation or interference. At that time it made some sense to put some money into cables. That was then. This is now.

The best rebuttal for a guy like this is to ask him that if his work sent him to Vegas to one of the big tradeshows there, would he consider it a fun filled vacation with lots to see and do with agreeable company, or would he consider it work, since he'd be staffing the show booth from 8am to 7pm daily for 5 consecutive days, with one day before setting it up and one day after breaking it down. He'd have a few hours, in the evening, to himself for that fun filled time. still having fun? Because for an escort accompanying a CLIENT for a 7 day trip to Vegas, instead of going off the clock a t 7pm daily, she's on the clock except for sleep time. and maybe not even then.

Great question and I have heard this exact type of logic your friend is talking about. I would not do this. I can afford to travel on my own when the time is right for me . The time I would be away on my paid vacation I would be losing money here at home of wherever I may choose to visit that week.

I feel religion also plays a large in the stigmatization as well. I'm not saying that we're all religious people in Canada or making sweeping generalizations that individuals who consider themselves people of faith are all bigots or are prejudice, but the major religions have all played huge parts in the founding of modern civilizations, and all three of those faiths have, for most of their histories, had less then stellar perceptions of sex and particularly women in general. In countries where laws are still skewered against women, many of they'll use religion as a basis for their legalized sexism, and even in countries like Canada and the United States, how often do we see opponents of marriage equality (among other social and education issues) use the Bible to justify their perspective? It isn't even uncommon to see politicians and celebrities say unbelievable things (like "a wife should always submit to their husband") out loud, often using faith as a cover. Religion isn't the only smoking gun-let's be honest folks, we live in a culture where women are often depicted and programmed that they are objects and that sex is their only real value, though if they use or enjoy it they're somehow worth even less (think of how many guys rush out to snatch up the annual SI Swimsuit edition but if one of the models they adore so much has an opinion that makes the news, they write her off as only being swimsuit model)-but I think it plays a pretty big role.

I don't usually post to this thread, as I'm able to shrug off most things if they aren't too serious. But today a true tragedy has occurred. I lost track of time browsing Cerb and burnt an entire package of bacon to an inedible crisp. That's right, you read correctly. The. Whole. Damn. Package. Oh I'd heard people warn there were risks to getting involved with escorts. But I laughed them off, figuring they spoke in ignorance, and that I would be careful enough to avoid whatever dangers there may be. And yet, my mind adrift with thoughts of beautiful ladies, reading their posts, so absorbed that I was oblivious to the smell of burning...the smoke coming from the kitchen...I did not--could not!--know that my time here would mean the end of my bacon. At first, stunned, I thought it could be saved. I tried performing mouth to mouth, ice compresses, massage, even some alternative medicines...but to no avail. The bacon is gone, forever, before I even truly had a chance to get to know it. It feels, quite literally, likes ashes in my mouth. So goodbye bacon. You deserved better. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go console myself by looking at some boobies.

this question has come up on every "ask a provider" thread I've ever seen, and the answer is invariably the same gc1968. If you expect a lady to go on an extended vacation you need to expect to pay her for the week, as well as all expenses incurred. Why would I go on vacation with a stranger when I could go on vacation with friends or family? I am not able to relax completely when with someone I don't know. I'm not able to enjoy the activities I choose, when I choose them, as I would if I were on my own vacation. Especially if as you suggest, you intend to have me on call for sex, compensated on a "per-service" basis. With all due respect, the concept is bizarre and I'm just surprised anyone would expect that.

Glad you had a nice visit with her, sound great. However, I am NOT "shaking in my heels" from any kind of competition in my lovely city of Fredericton. For me, I do not stress over competition, but rather I embrace it as a chance to grow and develop my skills to the best of my ability!

If I offer a service...it means I enjoy doing that service...I wouldn't do something i don't enjoy...that would be torture...JMHO

We ourselves-(sp's) stigmatize one another. Sp's with an education will brand themselves "courtesans" rather than an sp, escort or provider. This title implies or eludes to a higher status than an escort, provider, prostitute or whore. This way of thinking in itself is stigmatizing in the sense that an escort/prostitute is of a lower class, less deserving of respect, even though we all do the same things. Which is a shame as this is how society stigmatizes this profession, they see us as the peons of society. Doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, teachers, architects, accountants, nurses, etc as the respectable and accepted. It's a shame more didn't view a persons character as the way of determining respect and acceptance. As long as levels of superiority are valued and sought stigmatizations will be made especially concerning a persons walk in life. This walk in life (providing/escorting) will always be thought of as less than because it deals with sex and sex to many still remains a taboo subject, something that is feared, misunderstood and immoral. Anyone who practices it, shares in it freely is also thought of in the same way. Human beings seem to thrive on power, control, reaching pinnacles and imposing titles and until we start realizing we are all equal just doing different things stigmatizations will exist:(

The kitty I adopted from the TCR in January got really sick and the vet couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. She passed away last night. RIP Riff Raff.

The question I really dislike is "how's business?". How do you even answer that? I'm an honest upfront person and that one throws me off every time. Each answer has it's own downfall. As for a short notice evening booking, just be polite and respectful. IE: Hi "so and so" I know it's short notice but I was wondering if you might be available this evening for an hour at 11pm. The rest would depend on whether she knew you and specific things she would want to know. Know what she requests and have it ready. IE: do you want GFE, PSE or something else. Just don't try the "hey, are you available" routine. I would never offer something I didn't enjoy. This is about shared pleasure which means we should also share the enjoyment. There are many things I like or would explore that aren't listed on my site due to lack of equipment, being limited to someone I trust or something I haven't explored enough to be able to offer it as something I offer. Most responses from gentlemen state they want a lady to control the flow so my thought is I need to be well versed. If someone brings it up that I'm seeing and we explore together, that's different. PS...I like dick pics, at least after the initial meeting and that had a little effort put in to taking them.

this thread has made me hungry and I've never been on the east cost...hmmm maybe its time for a tour... BJ

So I guess that's your .02 cents worth on this game!

We are testing our a new text ad system on localescorts.ca (this is just a test phase and we are only promoting this here on cerb at this time until we work out the bugs and the development team finishes all the backed system) At this time the ads are FREE and are AUTOMATICALLY posted for everyone with a profile ad (4 times a day) and anyone without a profile ad can make them too for free but must manually make the ad each time (at this time). Direct Link: http://www.localescorts.ca/textads/ALL/home.html We would love any feedback from both the ladies and the men on how you would like to see the system improved. It is very basic right now (3 photos max) but we will be improving on it and promoting it in the future.

Sorry about that ladies ; Was just surfing and in a rush , Totally not meaning to offend at all and in afterthought mat have been kind of callous by my comments , That particular Post just made me wander into a kind of fantasy world . My sincere apologies to anyone who has taken offense xo and very sorry . Also a note to the MOd apology as I didn't know that the providers pay a fee to advertise on the other threads , After a few PM's I get it now

Exactly and in this business thinking of tomorrow, next week and so on is very important.

YES, and in my experience, when I have been offered this, the gent's say..." what?? even though I am paying???" BUT...I can save 1500 for a trip, but can I afford the loss of a week, or the loss of a possible regular that will see me week after week? As I am thinking about tomorrow too!

Whew, just got finished reading this entire thread! Lots of good questions and answers, really informative. Thank you Summer for starting this, and thanks to all who have participated. This is a very timely thread for me as well, as last night I had a conversation with a friend of mine and he brought up the subject of escorts and a question, so I figured I would ask it here so I could give him an answer from some of the ladies here. (and got me a little curious as to the answer as well) OK, first some background before the question. A few years ago this friend and I took a vacation and got roped into buying a 'membership' to a resort chain. Not exactly a time share, as we can choose from any of this company's resorts in about 110 different countries, pay reduced rates and get added perks. We both bought one, we don't share one, which would have made more sense, but we were really drunk, and the girls selling them were incredibly hot, so.....) ;) Anyway, since we bought these we have both gone on a couple trips per year, but have only been able to go together once, as with our work schedules we haven't been able to be off at the same times. The rest of the times we have gone alone. He just got back from a trip to Mexico which he went alone, and he said that he is feeling more and more self concious about travelling alone the more he goes. I have felt that more than once on my trips as well, so I understand how he feels. It's mostly the excursions, not so bad if it's something like going to see same ancient ruins or something, but going on a harbour cruise or something that's supposed to be romantic can kind of make you feel weird. Anyway, he asked me if I thought he would be able to find an escort to go with him next time. Jokingly at first, but then more seriously the more he thought about it. I said he could for sure, as long as he paid whatever they were asking. He said he didn't mean for sex, just companionship, and someone to go on excursions with, etc. He figured it should be enough if he was paying for everything, why would they need to be paid on top of that? I tried to explain to him that it didn't really work that way, and brought up the chemistry issue. (if they aren't really compatible then he'd be stuck with that person for a week or so) He just kept saying things along the lines of "but it's not for sex, and they get a free vacation and don't have to do anything except hang out with me" (I did say I thought sometimes he should pay ME to hang out with him, why would he think a woman would want to hang out with him for free. He then tried to hit me in the junk with the beer he was throwing me at the time :) But I digress...) Anyway, to put the matter to rest I thought I would just ask his question point blank so I can show him the responses. So Ladies, would you ever consider going on an all expense paid vacation to some exotic location, with no sex on the table, just as a companion for no other compensation? If for whatever reason he wanted to have sex would it be something he could just pay for at the time? (sorry, that last question sounds kind of...harsh I guess, not sure how to word it differently) (I apologize for the length of this post, and thank you for taking the time to read it)

Curious as to how the same photos are advertising two different ladies in 2 different cities at the same time? As someone has seen her, we know she exists, however clearly there is some photo theft here by one of the ladies in these ads. Toronto: http://toronto.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/80-80-80-100-independen-asian-baby-jess-real-pic-non-rush-top-service-25/17747100 St. John's: http://stjohns.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/number-1-asian-from-korea-horny-young-and-busty-and-eager-25/2112768

you will be missed :(

I just realized how my last question may come off, and I apologize for that. The reasoning behind my question is cause one of the girls I've seen told me she doesn't like french kissing but is able to tolerate it (regular kissing though she enjoys) and when I asked her why offer it she said it's cause she finds that it's expected in a gfe experience and she also likes to please so she doesn't hate it. So I was wondering if other girls had things like that.

At least I won't "take any wooden nickels" ;-) RG

Well all great suggestion, I can surely say the best kept foodie secrete in halifax is "Stories" on Morris Street; it is in the Halliburton House Inn. Unlike many restaurants that I have loved and love lost... it has some how maintained its consistency. Chef Scott Vail has been there since I started going over a decade ago. It is a small restaurant with a only a few waiters and kitchen staff so he is able to keep his finger print on all his dishes. (Tues -Sat) Food made from scratch, to order and the menus regularly features favourites/repeats yet changes daily to accommodate what's fresh. A practice other places have started, but he was doing a decade ago when I became a regular. If you love food, you have to go and please let me know what you thought! Worth noting they also have a private dinning room in back. On a more causal tone I have been enjoying the new gastropub up by pizza corner, "The Stub run Goat. Knowledgeable staff, diverse professional client a land a great Wine, beer and food menu. My so far favorite is the lobster club house sandwich with truffle salted hand cut fries. Large chunks of fresh lobster (entire claws) and veggies simply done, beautifully spiced. It in no way resembles the touristy chopped mayo saturated lobster sandwich normally seen.

Well I needed "a penny for my thoughts" to come up with a saying but alas no pennies anymore and consequently I'm not coming up with any thoughts. RG

In keeping to the theme of this thread let me bring it to a merciful conclusion and "Put it out of it's misery," based on lack of interest! It's obviously, "Gone over like a lead balloon," and another example of the fact that, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." However, "Nothing ventured nothing gained," and, "If at first you don't succeed, then try try again." "To each his own I suppose." We'll play this game, "When Hell freezes over." :) :) :)

I too would like to recommend Kim, PM me for details...AWESOME INDEED!!

My preference is the Local Sp......I have never tried a traveling SP but not saying there is anything wrong with them to each there own. I think we have a lot of excellent local talent here and as long as that remains and the rates are reasonable I will continue to shop locally first. It is like any thing else if you don't support local....some day you will want to got to the "store" and it will be gone. Just my 2 cents:|

@Rob369 as Emma said, you can always engage in some conversations with the person you're interested in prior to meeting to determine if they are open to what you're looking for. This is also a great time for post reading as well, especially the ones involving topics that are more affectionate or sensual in nature ie: kissing, touch, cuddling, playfulness etc. This will give you a deeper understanding of the person you wish to see. Websites, blogs etc. are also great indicators. It may take a little effort but your pleasure is worth it for finding someone who can give you what you want and need! When it comes to a partner wanting to indulge in the hobby, I have to say it would depend on the circumstances. Trust is definitely needed as is communication. If they are interested in pursuing this because they are not feeling loved or valued, than that is something that needs to be dealt with and not ignored because it can lead to many issues. If it is simply a matter of variety, interest or treat, as long as there has been open communication about things, then certainly. Indulging together can also be a great experience to deepen the relationship and keep the fires burning. I have had clients bring me a thoughtful gift or write just to say they were thinking of me. It's the simple things that mean the most to me. I am myself in what I do so anything genuine makes me smile. I care about people and it's nice to have that returned.

Opinion of a guy - what Erin and cmj are posting is the way things always have been and will be unfortunately. But it really is a parallel to life outside the massage service world. Guys that are rude , creepy and gross that don't know how to treat women in the 9-5 world never get laid or have a happy partner either. A key word is respect too. If guys would figure out that the girls workings as MAs don't look at a dude and say..oh I want him sticking his fingers in me right now. Ha. You pay for fantasy but these girls are real people too. Treat them like the beautiful hard working ladies they are. They have to protect their hygiene and bodies too as it is their livelihood and they need a comfort factor. Erin and cmj keep up the high standards as I have personal experience with both. When I'm done a session I know I feel fantastic and the girl feels she met a decent , clean guy that made her day better not worse. That's my two cents... jerks like that and others I think MAs should just give me a swift kick in the balls. What will they do...go home and tell their wives.

Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Fishing In The Dark RG

1. I've only seen a few, but for those who don't put/advertise a schedule I would never attempt to contact via phone or txt unless an ad was put up same day. I hate getting bothered on my day off, so Is this appropriate or am I just over thinking it? 2. When initiating first contact via txt, I tend to start off very discretely, ex. (Hello, I was wondering if your available at such and such time.) I make sure not to mention name/alias or activity until a response is made. For the simple reason insure its the right number or precaution in case her phone is left some place where others may accidentally view. Do you prefer discretion on straight to the point to eliminate back and forth messages? Or perhaps your on example of a txt.

I would have to say that some of the things I like least about my work have to do with stigma and judgement....as some of the other lovely ladies have already spoken to on this thread...but, in particular, for me, I find myself most impacted when it has unfolded during sessions with certain clients over the years....thankfully, not frequently enough to remotely make me stop loving my work...but there have been certain moments, often in the unsaid, the subtle glances and words where I can tell that it has been important for a client to maintain a sense that he is above me; somehow morally superior, more knowing and able to remove himself from some sense of the 'unsavory' he finds about my work. I suppose I am most impacted by this because, despite the obvious fact that there is a sacredness in sharing myself in pleasure and intimacy with my clients, and clearly something about those experiences that are ultimately valued even by a client who would engage in this behavior, that it is even an option to to judge and patronize...that there is a currency to it, is bothersome....hurtful The other judgement piece that irks me is when it's been inferred that my expiry date is about to come up, as though being anything past thirty puts me in a danger zone of becoming spoiled milk, lol! Interestingly enough, I have experienced this with a number of with clients who would find me to be on the younger end of the age range they prefer in an SP. So, the judgments, the inferences, don't even have to match up with the reality (of course they don't)....but there is a sort of paternalism there...and, I've noticed that it sometimes has occurred in contexts where a client is expressing romantic interest in me, and uses that as a card to discredit the idea that I should chose this as a longer term vocation.....to somehow make it seem unnatural. Odd! Sometimes the opportunity presents itself for me to have openly challenged such crap, but sometimes, there is no space for that...and then I chose to exercise the privilege of declining a repeat 'playdate', because there is no replacement, no price tag that can stand in place for dignity and self-love. Great thread Summer! Thanks for starting it :) Ox

I'm guessing you mean after the first "date" as an SP?! For me, it was exhilarating!!! There was so much excitement and nerves leading up to it. It was such a relief to have the first time under my belt. I felt incredibly confident and surprisingly relaxed :) I thought to myself... What's next? Bring it on!

Having to lie about what I do and where I am to members of my family and other people in my life and community, and the fact that the ones who DO know have to uphold that lie also :( I guess this goes back to judgements that are placed on other people, as that's the whole reason for the lies... Sigh.

A few things for me...guys that don't come showered and sparkling clean. People that play games with us..example: booking and no showing. People that think we are all on drugs...AND last but not least ..dick pics...lol

A number of the ladies at Paradise/Angel's Touch advertise that they service couples/ladies. Victoriascrt in particular comes to mind. Her massage was enjoyable. Either location would satisfy you requirements for clean and professional.

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