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Not to sidetrack this thread, but I'd like to take a guess at that. I suspect the rationalization that goes through a gent's head is that whatever travel destination and activities he has planned will be so enjoyable that simply getting those expenses covered will be enough to satisfy the donation amount. If a fellow feels like the experience and vacation itself are going to be fun, they assume the lady will as well (and yes, she might) and that this enjoyment will be sufficient compensation for her time. The thought is likely that she'll enjoy the experience just as much as if she was paying--and controlling--her own vacation. Such gents may have the best of intentions, but what I think they don't realize is that this is a form of bartering. In the end, how is offering a trip for a lady's time instead of her donation amount any different than offering a dinner out, fixing her computer, bringing her some good books, or anything else other than her requested donation amount. It is true, the trip itself may be enjoyable. But then, most of us gents hope that a lady enjoys the time she spends with us! This doesn't mean we then get to request a discount because she had fun. :)

Phew! For the benefit of others who don't especially want to read through 30 pages to see what questions have been asked, I've done the work and here's the list so far. ;) Some of these are verbatim; others I've edited down to something brief. The originals may contain additional nuances. I thought this might help get some buried or missed questions answered anew, and possibly prevent duplicate questions going forward. This is now one of my favourite threads by the way! 1. Why did you get into escorting in the first place? (Bmoc68 ) 2. What is the best thing about being an SP? (PisaqLove) 3. How do you react when a client says he loves you? (jafo105) 4. What do you like least about being an escort? (Ice4fun) 5. How do you shield yourself from emotional attachments? (curiousm7) 6. Do you ever want to take a client relationship further? (muncher459) 7. How did you feel after y our fist time as an SP? (PisaqLove) 8. After a while seeing the same person, do you prefer not to see that same person and move on? (frank97500) 9. Has it been important to have friends, confidants, mentors in the business? (Winnipegcub) 10. What would you say to a guy that would love to visit an SP but feels very intimidated and doesn't think he is good enough? (frank97500) 11. Have you ever had a "date" that was so hot that it eclipsed your best experience in your civilian life? (PisaqLove) 12. What do SP's do to mentally prepare themselves for a session? (Jay67) 13. Why have I been asked if I was a former male SP? (frenchbrute) 14. What advice would you give a lady just starting out? What's one thing you wish you had known. (Cute0aza0Button) 15. What can a gentlemen do to make an encounter an enjoyable time for both him and her? (roamingguy) 16. How do you deal with a client you don't want to see again? (jg24) 17. If a potential client is interested in knowing if you enjoy/offer a given activity, is there a "best" way to ask? (Brad) 18. Have you even been recognized on the street? (ottawascout) 19. Do your line of work mean that lack health or dental insurance? Have you no income without work? How do you handle this? (Ice4fun) 20. How long do you plan on being an SP/MA/Dancer? (PisaqLove) 21. How do you determine which of your bedroom activities are YMMV? (curiousm7) 22. How are (some of) you able to make a guy feel you truly desire him every time you see him? (nlwoodchuck) 23. Do you all go to sexual skills university? Or are you all just naturally gifted? Does practice truly make perfect or do you need to study and learn specific techniques? Do you have a sexual move or technique that you tend to go with as your finishing move (emiafish) 24. How do I find out what really pleases a lady and what she actually likes or dislikes? How do I find out what I'm doing right, and more importantly, wrong? (qwertyaccount) 25. Have you ever had a bad encounter that made you question your occupation? (PisaqLove) 26. Has a client ever used a heretofore unknown technique that has rocked your world, and if so then can you share it with the rest of us? (emiafish) 27. How do you treat no-shows? (curiousm7) 28. How do you deal with a bad review? (nlwoodchuck) 29. Do you prefer a man's junk shaved or hairy? (defensedave) 30. Have you ever been turned off by a hobbyist look, attitude, and behaviour? And if so, how did you pull through the time with that person? (frank97500) 31. If you offer duos is it because you like them and are a little bi, or is it just part of the job? (Ice4fun) 32. What do you think has made you different that you can sustain a longer career in what can be a very tough business? (OutForFun) 33. How often do you get requests for costumes or roleplaying? (emiafish) 34. What has been the most surprising thing you've learned or done after being an SP? (piano8950) 35. How common is it, after a client leaves, to think "wow, that was someone I could see myself going out to dinner with."? (curiousm7) 36. What makes a pleasant review for you? (Magician) 37. What does it mean when after a session an SP asks "Can I put your number in my phone"? (qwertyaccount) 38. Is assuring a lady that I've just come out of the shower as good as actually taking a shower right there? (Gentleman11) 39. What is your preference in call, out call client hotel. Are client residences out-of-bounds? (Gentleman11) 40. What advice would you give to a client who is a virgin? And If you meet a client who is a virgin, how would you go about relaxing him? (Jay67) 41. For a paid encounter would you be open to going out to dinner or a movie, holding hands, or walking arm in arm? OR do you prefer keeping things completely private? (jafo105) 42. How important are recommendations to a lady's business? (roamingguy) 43. Is it fun when a man cums on your face? Do you have any private pictures with your face covered in cum? (Ice4fun) 44. Why do most ladies ads list all their physical stats (height, age, weight, measurements, eye color, etc.) but others are silent on most or all of this? (qwertyaccount) 45. What types of gifts do you normally receive and what would you like to receive? (Ice4fun) 46. If you show your face in your pictues here, why did you decide to 'out' your face? Did it result in any change? (piano8950) 47. What jobs/careers that guys have do you find turn-ons and turn-offs? (qwertyaccount) 48. Do you have clients that you are more excited to see than others? (PisaqLove) 49. If a client gives you a gift, is cash a good alternative to a gift card? (Luckyme) 50. What's the craziest gift you have received as an SP? (PisaqLove) 51. Do you ever get tired of dealing with people? (frank97500) 52. Have you ever wanted to meet a particular cerb member in person, and get really nervous due to certain perception or expectation you have of them? (Empty83) 53. Is there a kind of sex work you haven't done but would like to try? (dancer, Domme, escort, massage)? If so, why haven't you? 54. What's the strangest outfit/costume you've been asked to wear? (qwertyaccount) 55. What's the weirdest role-play you've been asked to do? (qwertyaccount) 56. Would it be fun to arrive at a date and be confronted with buckets of oysters? No, c'mon, seriously! (LeeRichards) 57. Do certain times of day attract certain type of clientele? Is there a particular time that is more popular? What part of day or night is your preference? (Empty83) 58. If I were to book a 4 hour session with a SP, the first hours being dinner and the next two hours being an incall, what would the rates be? Would I have to pay for a 4 hour incall rate? (Jay67) 59. At what point in a new relationship do you let a guy know your line of work and how do you deal with the worry that he may judge you? (curiousm7) 60. If a new guy in your life tells you he likes to see escorts, what is your reaction? (roamingguy) 61. Is it okay to contact you on days you don't advertise? (Empty83) 62. Do you prefer the first contact be discrete, or straight to the point? (Empty83) 63. Are sincere compliments on appearance acceptable? What such comments are unacceptable? (igab) 64. Are the apt descriptors "prostitue" and "john" inherently shameful? (mrgreen760) 65. Is writing a recommendation the ultimate compliment you can give a lady? (roamingguy) 66. What would be the circumstances of your retirement from this business? (OutForFun) 67. If a regular client and a CERB menber you've never seen both want to book you at the same time, who gets preference? (Luckyme) 68. What is the most memorable thing a client has done for/with you? (PisaqLove) 69. Have you ever had a client do something sweet/kind/nice that it made you cry? (PisaqLove) 70. What questions can I ask to get a sense of how affectionate an SP is likely to be during an encounter? (Rob360) 71. Would you have any issues with your own parner seeing an MA/SP? (JohnnyCanuck) 72. How many times have you fallen for a client? (Daniel Boone) 73 a, b, c, d.... How do I become the ideal kind of client? Do you generally like regulars more or new clients? What's your definition of a regular client? How long a session do you prefer? Is it cool for clients to contact you to say happy birthdays/merry Christmas etc.? How do you feel about a client sending you a brief thank you note after the appointment? If you contact a client between bookings, is that an open invitation to keep in touch between appointments? (A1B2C3D4E5) 74. What are some of the funniest or strangest text messages you've received? (qwertyaccount) 75. If there's something you offer as stated on your ads and/or website does it necessarily mean that you like to offer that service? Or does it only mean that you're able to tolerate it? If it's the later, why offer something you don't particularly like doing? (A1B2C3D4E5) 76. What unwelcome questions do clients commonly ask? (Darr) 77. Is there a good texting format for same evening booking request? (Darr) 78. Would you ever consider going on an all expense paid vacation to some exotic location, with no sex on the table, just as a companion for no other compensation? (gc1968 )

I'm not an SP, and don't meant to break the intent of the thread; but to offer some perspective... just being around a stranger for an extended time is WORK. Imagine the question was "hey, can my friend come live in your house for a week? There'd be no sex, promise! He'd just be around you ALL THE TIME." The locale, food, and shelter are not sufficient compensation for the service he's looking for; and frankly if the lady wanted those things, she could just buy them herself thanks very much. Your buddy is asking for someone to be around him and be a pleasant companion, 24/7. His companionship in a strange place is not as enticing an offer as he thinks. (Plus, he sounds like a bit of a dick and kind of clueless.) He needs to pay the companion to be there and "on the clock" for the duration of the trip.

Absolutely and without hesitation... NO. I have extended times on my website, including a week, and might I remind you that upscale escorts, the likes of which you'll find here on CERB, don't charge for "services". We charge for our time which is valuable. It's time we are taking away from our family, our friends, OUR lives and that comes at a price. For myself, I have a set price for extended amounts of time. This is purely for my time only. I also require that ALL of my travel expenses are covered (meals, flight, accommodations). In addition, I ALWAYS negotiate an agreed upon amount of alone time for extended dates. I need time to myself as does the person I'm traveling with. Regarding chemistry, I wouldn't consider a weeks vacation with a client I hadn't established some connection with already. That means we've talked, we've had dates already, we've gotten to know each other and established ahead of time that we enjoy each other's company, sexual or otherwise. Hope this helps your friend :) xo

Well although I'm not an SP it has to be remembered first and foremost you are paying for a lady's time and companionship, which can include sex, but isn't always just about sex. A week away on an all expense paid vacation means she is spending time away from her livelihood where she earns an income. Yes to us men this is an escape, for the ladies, their livelihood. She may not be able to afford to be away on this guy's vacation, it'll cost her too much money in lost income. Anyhow my guess an all expense paid "vacation" for a lady where she doesn't get compensated for her time will cost her too much money in real terms...be cheaper for her to pay for her own vacation without the man coming along A rambling RG

That being said, a laptop connected via HDMI cable to my Panasonic 54" 1080p Plasma HDTV renders certain umm... adult entertainment into a glory to behold. Oh, and HDMI cables? The only quality difference between a dollar store $5 cable and a $25 one is the connectors on the cheap ones are easier to break if you move them around a lot. If you are going to plug it in and leave it, $5 will do ya. The signal quality will be the same for the $5, $25, and $100 cable. It's a digital signal. It either gets through the cable or not. The signal only has two modes. It is there or it isn't. Chucking money at it will not improve it. If you are old enough, you can remember when cables carried analog signals that were susceptible to attenuation or interference. At that time it made some sense to put some money into cables. That was then. This is now.

The best rebuttal for a guy like this is to ask him that if his work sent him to Vegas to one of the big tradeshows there, would he consider it a fun filled vacation with lots to see and do with agreeable company, or would he consider it work, since he'd be staffing the show booth from 8am to 7pm daily for 5 consecutive days, with one day before setting it up and one day after breaking it down. He'd have a few hours, in the evening, to himself for that fun filled time. still having fun? Because for an escort accompanying a CLIENT for a 7 day trip to Vegas, instead of going off the clock a t 7pm daily, she's on the clock except for sleep time. and maybe not even then.

Great question and I have heard this exact type of logic your friend is talking about. I would not do this. I can afford to travel on my own when the time is right for me . The time I would be away on my paid vacation I would be losing money here at home of wherever I may choose to visit that week.

I feel religion also plays a large in the stigmatization as well. I'm not saying that we're all religious people in Canada or making sweeping generalizations that individuals who consider themselves people of faith are all bigots or are prejudice, but the major religions have all played huge parts in the founding of modern civilizations, and all three of those faiths have, for most of their histories, had less then stellar perceptions of sex and particularly women in general. In countries where laws are still skewered against women, many of they'll use religion as a basis for their legalized sexism, and even in countries like Canada and the United States, how often do we see opponents of marriage equality (among other social and education issues) use the Bible to justify their perspective? It isn't even uncommon to see politicians and celebrities say unbelievable things (like "a wife should always submit to their husband") out loud, often using faith as a cover. Religion isn't the only smoking gun-let's be honest folks, we live in a culture where women are often depicted and programmed that they are objects and that sex is their only real value, though if they use or enjoy it they're somehow worth even less (think of how many guys rush out to snatch up the annual SI Swimsuit edition but if one of the models they adore so much has an opinion that makes the news, they write her off as only being swimsuit model)-but I think it plays a pretty big role.

I don't usually post to this thread, as I'm able to shrug off most things if they aren't too serious. But today a true tragedy has occurred. I lost track of time browsing Cerb and burnt an entire package of bacon to an inedible crisp. That's right, you read correctly. The. Whole. Damn. Package. Oh I'd heard people warn there were risks to getting involved with escorts. But I laughed them off, figuring they spoke in ignorance, and that I would be careful enough to avoid whatever dangers there may be. And yet, my mind adrift with thoughts of beautiful ladies, reading their posts, so absorbed that I was oblivious to the smell of burning...the smoke coming from the kitchen...I did not--could not!--know that my time here would mean the end of my bacon. At first, stunned, I thought it could be saved. I tried performing mouth to mouth, ice compresses, massage, even some alternative medicines...but to no avail. The bacon is gone, forever, before I even truly had a chance to get to know it. It feels, quite literally, likes ashes in my mouth. So goodbye bacon. You deserved better. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go console myself by looking at some boobies.

this question has come up on every "ask a provider" thread I've ever seen, and the answer is invariably the same gc1968. If you expect a lady to go on an extended vacation you need to expect to pay her for the week, as well as all expenses incurred. Why would I go on vacation with a stranger when I could go on vacation with friends or family? I am not able to relax completely when with someone I don't know. I'm not able to enjoy the activities I choose, when I choose them, as I would if I were on my own vacation. Especially if as you suggest, you intend to have me on call for sex, compensated on a "per-service" basis. With all due respect, the concept is bizarre and I'm just surprised anyone would expect that.

Glad you had a nice visit with her, sound great. However, I am NOT "shaking in my heels" from any kind of competition in my lovely city of Fredericton. For me, I do not stress over competition, but rather I embrace it as a chance to grow and develop my skills to the best of my ability!

If I offer a service...it means I enjoy doing that service...I wouldn't do something i don't enjoy...that would be torture...JMHO

We ourselves-(sp's) stigmatize one another. Sp's with an education will brand themselves "courtesans" rather than an sp, escort or provider. This title implies or eludes to a higher status than an escort, provider, prostitute or whore. This way of thinking in itself is stigmatizing in the sense that an escort/prostitute is of a lower class, less deserving of respect, even though we all do the same things. Which is a shame as this is how society stigmatizes this profession, they see us as the peons of society. Doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, teachers, architects, accountants, nurses, etc as the respectable and accepted. It's a shame more didn't view a persons character as the way of determining respect and acceptance. As long as levels of superiority are valued and sought stigmatizations will be made especially concerning a persons walk in life. This walk in life (providing/escorting) will always be thought of as less than because it deals with sex and sex to many still remains a taboo subject, something that is feared, misunderstood and immoral. Anyone who practices it, shares in it freely is also thought of in the same way. Human beings seem to thrive on power, control, reaching pinnacles and imposing titles and until we start realizing we are all equal just doing different things stigmatizations will exist:(

The kitty I adopted from the TCR in January got really sick and the vet couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. She passed away last night. RIP Riff Raff.

The question I really dislike is "how's business?". How do you even answer that? I'm an honest upfront person and that one throws me off every time. Each answer has it's own downfall. As for a short notice evening booking, just be polite and respectful. IE: Hi "so and so" I know it's short notice but I was wondering if you might be available this evening for an hour at 11pm. The rest would depend on whether she knew you and specific things she would want to know. Know what she requests and have it ready. IE: do you want GFE, PSE or something else. Just don't try the "hey, are you available" routine. I would never offer something I didn't enjoy. This is about shared pleasure which means we should also share the enjoyment. There are many things I like or would explore that aren't listed on my site due to lack of equipment, being limited to someone I trust or something I haven't explored enough to be able to offer it as something I offer. Most responses from gentlemen state they want a lady to control the flow so my thought is I need to be well versed. If someone brings it up that I'm seeing and we explore together, that's different. PS...I like dick pics, at least after the initial meeting and that had a little effort put in to taking them.

this thread has made me hungry and I've never been on the east cost...hmmm maybe its time for a tour... BJ

So I guess that's your .02 cents worth on this game!

The Joker - Steve Miller Band

you will be missed :(

At least I won't "take any wooden nickels" ;-) RG

I still have not figured out how this works??? "A penny saved is a penny earned" "Hope for the best but plan for the worst"

You can't loose with anything from Argentina. They have warm climate profiles like California or Australia with greater bang for the buck. Also for people who get headaches from red wines, it is usually from either tannins or the sulfates. The Argentinian vineyard slopes and ocean front support growing grapes without all the pesticides you will get in other wines. (If you still get headaches it's probably tannins and they are always in reds) Anyhoo.....a few regular favourites of mine are the Los Moras Line, particularly the Malbec and Cabinet Sauvignon. ($13.99). Also Don David Malbec ($16) God knows I have spent many a nite with that man and I definitely don't mind swallowing. Hope that helps. Let me know if you try them.

Well I needed "a penny for my thoughts" to come up with a saying but alas no pennies anymore and consequently I'm not coming up with any thoughts. RG

In keeping to the theme of this thread let me bring it to a merciful conclusion and "Put it out of it's misery," based on lack of interest! It's obviously, "Gone over like a lead balloon," and another example of the fact that, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." However, "Nothing ventured nothing gained," and, "If at first you don't succeed, then try try again." "To each his own I suppose." We'll play this game, "When Hell freezes over." :) :) :)

getting ready to watch one of the best rivalries in all sports...Leafs vs Habs. go Leafs!!!!!

I have two too - Today - I had another wonderful time with my beautiful lady! :biggrin: Yesterday - that was a pleasant surprise and it was my first! I received an automatic message from the mod informing me that my post on 20 essential facts dog lovers must always remember (Part 1) is amongst the winners of this cycle time topic nomination contest. And that I have received 1000 reputation points from mod. Reputation was given for this post. Thank you to those fellow cerbies who voted for my post. I really appreciate it.

I don't have texting on my landline phone, so when someone texts me it converts text to landline, in the form of a voice recording. So the 'voice' has had to reinterpret whatever the text was typed in and as we all know (we can see ad titles that use this) text speak is not in English lol. I've had a couple wtf what that supposed to be texts.

1)wow...not much to add here...if you walk in with a smile, that's a bonus :D I2) adore my regulars because it gets better and better after each appt...that being said I like the excitement of meeting a new client :) 3)For me a regular is a repeat client...after a second visit he is considered a regular...now...I have regulars and great regulars ;) 4)I prefer longer appointements, no more half hours it's way to rushed, 2 hours and more is my fav that way you can get to know him better and build that connection! 5)Oh I love it...so nice to know that someone is thinking of you :D 6)That too is appreciated...I usually do not initiate such message but I love receiving them and will definately answer back :) 7)If I get in touch with them it's because they asked me to let them know when i was coming back...and I dont mind keeping in touch with reg clients :) as long as it's stays within the client/sp boundaries! BJxxx

I pretty much agree with you. The stigma comes from the old view of male/female power dynamics, and you're right that despite many advances in many areas of society, this one fiercely resists change. For a very long time in Western society, a woman's value lay entirely and exclusively in her sexual and reproductive powers. There was a long time even in English law when women couldn't own property and had no particular claim on her children; she and they were mere appendages of the husband. (Even today, the father walks his daughter down the aisle in the marriage ceremony and "gives away" the bride-object to her new owner, and how many people really stop to ask "wait, what?"? We're all too busy being caught up in the happy security of a familiar tradition.) When sex is the only measure of your value and using it to secure a husband is your only path to financial security, you do all you can to ensure it retains its value. Women will shame another woman who shares sex freely because she's devaluing the currency in general; and everyone shames, or at least pities, the prostitute for "squandering" her own sole value for the sake of an income when she should be conserving it to secure a husband. And from the man's side you're right; his value was measured by his ability to secure a good wife (and the access to sex and reproduction that entailed). A truly successful man should have a large supply of women throwing themselves at him in the hopes of securing him as a husband. Simply buying sex with money suggested he was incapable of acquiring it through merit. Everyone was supposed to stick to the rules for the sexual "transaction", or the authorities (and their peers) would come down hard to preserve the accepted order. Or at least... everyone should always appear to follow the rules. And that's the rub, because even in such a rigid society prostitutes wouldn't exist without men to secretly be their clients. And plenty of young women, and wives, experienced sexual attraction and acted on it outside of marriage. But when institutions hold sway and individuals are lesser partners in society, you maintain appearances at all costs lest that all-powerful community turn upon you. Essentially: the powers that be, and even the individual participants in a rigid society, won't tolerate others who challenge its rules. The same thing happened to gypsies, who owned no land and therefore were seen as rootless and untrustworthy. People who disregarded the rules of sex=marriage were like sexual gypsies and suffered accordingly. These things all sound silly today, BUT... traditions die hard, even when the reasons they arose don't apply any more. Most people still think that the standard life script -- marry in a church and have kids -- fundamentally rules any successful life, regardless of other changes in society. Parents and other authority figures are happy to reinforce this idea. So you get the dual behaviour of people becoming freer with sex to a point, but still buying into the idea of it as currency to purchase marriage, and that ultimately, sex should reside exclusively within that marriage. Anything else is a threat to all those who still buy into that idea. Still... there's change underway. It's had to wait until the Old Guard largely die off and those that remain becomes outnumbered by a newer generation growing up with different ideas. Just as same-sex marriage has unexpectedly begun to achieve normality, the other anachronisms about marriage and sexuality may give way too. This could be helping to pave the way for acceptance of sexual service providers too. There will always be a conservative rump who will never accept the change, but I think those numbers are changing. We'll see.

So sorry to hear that Berlin. :( :( :( Thoughts and prayers are with you.

1. I've only seen a few, but for those who don't put/advertise a schedule I would never attempt to contact via phone or txt unless an ad was put up same day. I hate getting bothered on my day off, so Is this appropriate or am I just over thinking it? 2. When initiating first contact via txt, I tend to start off very discretely, ex. (Hello, I was wondering if your available at such and such time.) I make sure not to mention name/alias or activity until a response is made. For the simple reason insure its the right number or precaution in case her phone is left some place where others may accidentally view. Do you prefer discretion on straight to the point to eliminate back and forth messages? Or perhaps your on example of a txt.

Here are a couple good resources in regards to this government survey. They provide some background info, ideas and guidelines for folks to use to form their own unique responses to the survey. These helpful guidelines were prepared by sex workers and their allies from all across the country, and are designed to inspire you to create your own personal answers. From Maggie's Toronto: http://maggiestoronto.ca/news?news_id=118 From POWER Ottawa: http://www.powerottawa.ca/CALLTOACTION.pdf

I don't use email as a contact method because it's just 'too available' for anyone to use and a way to hide behind something. I always ask people who want to see me to call me even if they initially text. Psychic abiilities run in my family and I have a very strong intuiiton and sixth sense. I am very good at reading people, their body language and their voice. I know within 30 seconds in a phone conversation if I want to meet them or not. I base it on their tone of voice, how they speak to me and the questions they ask. If I don't like what I'm hearing, it's a no go. And I've also had those big bells go off and I listen to them. No exceptions. When they show up, at that point I am reading their body language and if they can't make eye contact or acting in a weird manner, I know they have something to hide. If something is making me feel uncomfortable and I can't put my finger on it, I will ask them to leave. It hasn't happened often. There are some people I haven't clicked with and wouldn't see again but they didn't make me feel so uncomfortable or felt as though I were in danger that I had to cancel the appt. I am pretty good at adapting to people so I just go with it and be professional. I don't judge on looks. Politeness, cleanliness and respect towards me goes a long way. I deal with many different personalities, fully accepting this and can adapt to it well while still being able to offer a nice encounter. If someone lies there like a dead fish or isn't interactive ( sometimes they just want to relax which I understand), I make the best of it. If someone is pushy or rude/disprespectful in certain ways like using rude language towards or doing something I don't like, I warn them. If it gets worse, I tell them it's not working out and ask them to leave. This is rare because I usually can tell over the phone beforehand esp with the type of questions where services are concerned such as the laundry list of acronyms. When people are rude or don't respect women in general, it often shows up indirectly in the phone conversation. I am very good at picking up on those things. I am a nice person and I have a lot of patience so someone would have to really do something incredibly wrong on their part for me to get very upset. I'm assertive but not in a threatening way yet I don't tolerate bullshit or allow someone to disrespect me. If a person no shows me or acts nonchlalant like my time isn't worth anything, I will make sure not to bother with them again. Act like a gentleman and there are no problems. If a person has done something and crossed the line, there is no going back even if an apology is issued. Their true colors have already been shown. I don't give second chances. It's ultimately their loss.

I have been in contact, connecting and networking with other sps (and courteous client members) on forums like this since 2007. I have no idea what i would do without this connection. There are very few people that i am on an email alone basis, well basically one or two. Majority of people I stay connected with in sp lounges and discussion areas on sites like this (and sites that are not like this one lol). Some of the people I have known the longest I connected with by contacting them thru their ad like on CL or if they were on a more trashy site, to suggest a different one that would allow them access to sp areas. I've been doing less of this in recent years, but some people i talk to today online I've known since 2007 or 2008 on one site or another. Male and female, btw. I am not sure what people do without that kind of link, and feel sorry for the ones who may use it in a one sided way, as in only connecting or supporting one group often at the expense of the other group. For example, some rare sps will pile on the bandwagon to attack other sps, as tho they are their competition they want to eliminate (or discredit). I feel sorry for them because they will soon discover, if they haven't already, the kind of guy that seems to be their friend today, will quickly abandon them and throw them to the wolves when it suits them. in the meantime, they've alienated the ones who would have had their back from day one.

It is not completely unimaginable for a client to truly love an SP. It has happened with me, I am now 3 years into a loving relationship. BUT I made him "earn" me with trust and patients for a good year before accepting our first real date:) For me, I had to know he did not expect me to let go of my career as a provider. MY financial freedom was paramount. I was lucky to find a man who trusted my judgment about my career. Very rare is this!! As most want you to stop the industry, something I was not willing to do.

I'm guessing you mean after the first "date" as an SP?! For me, it was exhilarating!!! There was so much excitement and nerves leading up to it. It was such a relief to have the first time under my belt. I felt incredibly confident and surprisingly relaxed :) I thought to myself... What's next? Bring it on!

LDBF123-my words describe only me-everyone is different. The only person who knows how your girl feels is your girl. If you've asked her if she loves you and she hasn't replied, perhaps she is still undecided, if she answers no well then time to move on. But ask, and accept her answer. Love is wonderful, it can happen with anyone in any vocation. If you have to move on fear not it will happen when and where it's supposed to, most likely when you're not looking. Hugs

It is a very fine line and one that must always be re-defined and re-established. For myself personally, I prefer to get to know my clients on a deeper level. I encourage conversation and sharing prior to appointments and continued communication after the fact. For me, this deeper connection improves the time we spend together for me as much as for them. As humans, we have emotions. And I have learned over the years that human connection and emotions are something that I require. I have also learned not to let emotions control me. I feel what I feel, but I always keep things in perspective. This is just what works for me :)

Having to lie about what I do and where I am to members of my family and other people in my life and community, and the fact that the ones who DO know have to uphold that lie also :( I guess this goes back to judgements that are placed on other people, as that's the whole reason for the lies... Sigh.

A few things for me...guys that don't come showered and sparkling clean. People that play games with us..example: booking and no showing. People that think we are all on drugs...AND last but not least ..dick pics...lol