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Your asked for feedback, and started a thread which is going to elicit honest discussion and comments about the themes many of us providing sexual services experience with men seeking our services. Those themes inevitably result in generalizations to achieve a very particular task, which in this case was to unpack the various reasons why some SPs choose not to see men under a certain age. I don't see any disrespect happening here. And, if you truly feel that you exude respect and maturity, consider taking the advice graciously given here about how to tactfully approach service providers in seeking their company. Good luck! Anna

one specific day to step back and acknowledge women everywhere. I for one will forever treat all (men and women) by the old "golden rule"...I treat and respect all as I would like to be treated. simple rule and always has worked well for me. today though, special salute to women everywhere ( with a special thought to my mum who I miss dearly every sec of every day). xo

The other moderator suggested that we may be giving the troll what he/she wants by continuing this thread and I agree. Lets close this and let this one go. We will watch to make sure we do our best to keep him/her (and others like him/her) out.

Regarding opposite experiences with the same lady, consider this. I was on a cruise over the holidays and loved every minute of it as did the other sixteen people in our group. I frequent a cruise oriented discussion forum. According to some of my fellow passengers, the service on that cruise was terrible. The food was inedible. The ship was in danger of disintegrating under our feet. 2013 passengers, 2013 experiences. YMMV. As for the hit or miss percentage I've had one less than sterling experience out of umm... many CERB ladies. If one is running at 50% it would appear one is not doing his homework.

I took the time to sign with my real name. As some others have said early on, no one will take a petition seriously if it is filled primarily with aliases. Although I choose to keep this part of my life a secret from those who are part of my civilian life, I believe that it is important to provide verifiable names to illustrate that real people are have concerns for the health and safety for those working and participating in this chosen lifestyle. I have long advocated for legalizing the sex industry, in all of it forms... I can remember having this discussion at least 15 years ago with some friends at a gathering. Most of them were in agreement with the opinions I expressed. That being said, tomorrow will be my 1 month anniversary that I am active on this board, which also happens to be my first personal introduction to this lifestyle. What is the point of my diatribe? It means, that there are a lot of people who share out opinion, without ever partaking. Simply two cents! (Sorry RG for the paraphrase/steal)

I thought about it overnight, I contacted change.org asked them to delete my RG signature on the petition and I'm going to re-sign under my real name. Waiting to hear back and hopefully I can re-sign under my real name RG UPDATE Well tried contacting by replying to the email sent to me yesterday, but it's an automatic email, and my reply bounced back soooo There is an IM contact form I stumbled across on the site which I used, but alas, it bounced back too but I persevered and there is in the help centre a form used to contact them so I filled it out...so far no bounce back, keeping my fingers crossed

Something I thought of.... Often times (but not all), younger men have a great deal of stamina and can go like the energizer bunny! Don't get me wrong, it's a great deal of FUN, however, this can really wear a working lady out. Perhaps some of the SP's you've contacted are concerned about this. Just my two cents.

The whole topic of MSOG can take us in different directions when it comes to communicating with our clients or potential clients about this service. On the one hand, I've been asked to be clear in whether or not MSOG is on the table by gents who want to be sure that their time is their time and that I won't be ushering them out the door as soon as they have climaxed...some have felt downright insulted and hurt when they thought they were going to truly spend the full period of time with a lady, only to feel unwelcome after 15 minutes into an hour long session...alot of times the question is not just a about the hopes to have a second orgasm, but also to know that more touch and intimacy can be shared. On the other hand, sometimes the request or demand for MSOG comes from a not so great place....there are those who DO want that unreasonable guarantee in advance that they are going to 'get off' X amount of times, instead of also considering that it is ultimately my time they they are paying for, and not just a series of acts to be completed in order for the session to be considered a good one. I'll be crass here, because sometimes that's just the best way to go; there have been several times when I've gotten the sense, especially over text, that someone is looking for that guarantee of not just the possibility of further play/intimacy, but of actually 'scoring' X amount of times. When I feel like biting on it, I've put it like this: 'The time you pay for with me is the time that you get, and I care very much about you having a very enjoyable, hot, hot experience. If you want to give it another whirl with me, I'm your lady! What ultimately happens with your body, what you are physically capable of, is beyond my control though. So, to be clear, I am not a fuck doll and my comfort throughout the session needs to matter.' Putting it this way seems to really send the message home :)

I was going to say the same but with white wine. Make sure that if there is any sexual activity that it is kept above water level. Water washes the vaginal natural lubricant and because the water is warm/hot, bacteria love that environment. So to conclude it is perfect to set the mood for pre sex but not for doing the deed.

He/She was banned, IP was blocked.... I wanted to post the email address they used to confirm the account as well but I am not allowed to do that. :( IDIOT.

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I had the same experience as czar and curiousm7. The old Triple AAA spa in Vanier has been completely transformed into ALO East North/Oasis Royale Spa. Now a really nice place, on par with the other upscale spas in town. And now managed by the well-respected ALO Group. Well worth a visit :)

Not often that I disagree with you C...but on this one I have to...We have many more than 1 or 2 high end Ladies in this city...many more. * Exclusive means nothing to me C...it's all about the service and ...in this city we have some Women that really deliver.Smell the roses ,man!

I agree with what the other ladies have already posted. Please understand that how you have a preference on whom you would like to visit with - WE (companions) have a preference on who we would like to spend time with. For me, I prefer 40+ I find I have a much better connection visiting with company slightly older than myself. I have personally found that the majority of younger men don't have a clue what they want and are more into a date that Im not into offering. As well I find I don't have much in common with a younger man and it leaves little to talk about, which leads to a not so much fun date. Don't get me wrong there are people I have spent time with that have been younger than that - however they have had impeccable references from ladies I know and that was the deciding factor on whether I visited with them. Keep in mind this is my opinion and no one else's. There are ladies who have no issue with age of whom they may visit with and maybe that is the route you need to go. Once you can gain some credibility from a lady who can vouch for you(with you being a gentleman and a wonderful client), that may help with getting an encounter with another lady you want to see. (please note it may not as some ladies are firm on their age requirements) Its nothing against you personally, its just what works for both parties involved. I mean do you really want to spend time with a lady who does not want to visit with you as you don't meet her requirements? That would not be a fun date.

Too bad we can't find out who he is so we could put a "I hate cops" bumper sticker on his car.

When you are filling out your information, below it gives you the choice to have your name show up (you can see other names show up below that box) or not show up by clicking it off or on.

You telling us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner only shows us that you can tell us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner. Which has nothing to do with seeing a lady. BTW encounters aren't about handling yourself Encounters are about a gentleman meeting a lady for a mutually beneficial time together Yes, in a perfect world generalizations aren't good, but ladies make their profession based on their experience dealing with people. And their experience shows them this age demographic isn't good for their business. It isn't about right or wrong, it's about the ladies do what is right for them So you have to show the lady you are a mature gentlemen, a man the lady would like to have as a client if you want to see her A rambling RG

Using you real name only makes sense, as if the use a pseudonym it undermines the intent and effectiveness of the of the petition. If it were one to parliament, not just the minister there are very clear rules about the requirement of using your real name. There was a concern expressed about whether to be worried about change.org or the government, but I would guess it's not so much about the government but a particular political party. I would think that if delivered to the justice minister he has a duty of confidentiality, and this sort of information would not be used for political benefit by targeting individuals who have signed.

I am not saying any specific brand.. or saying that anyone is using any knock off products... Nuru Gel is Nuru Gel.., all that will change is brands.. to obtain Nuru Gel.. every company MUST follow a recipie... just like in cooking the Ingredients are the same.., but you can always adda personal touch by either use more or less of X-ingredient to obtain a different consistency... Every Brand will claim to be the original and use of premium ingredients... Is simply how marketing works I tried to order from different brands, different distribuitors, manufacturers.., etc.. all with no luck, no company id delivering to Canadian addresses... (tried delivery to Ontario and Quebec address) maybe dofferent in other provinces... Again I have not yet found anything on Health Canada..., but I believe is my dutie to share the findings with the rest of the community... I am still trying to find from different sources the reason why Nuru Gel is no Longer delivered in Canada and has been taken of the shelves in the stores... Personally I have decided not to use the product.., until I find all information regarding the product... Safety is my priority, My health and health from those who visit me Is my primary concern... But everyone can decide for themselves whether Nuru is or not for them...

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I have broken my over 30 rule on more than one occasion. For me, it has more to do with their maturity, level of respect, etc. I have turned down a lot of younger ones due to a lack of the above, and an inherent assumption that they can show up, skip the pleasantries and "get their monies worth". Not gonna happen. I'm sure some offer that and that's fine, but NOT me :) Email someone you're interested in seeing. If you are able to demonstrate a level of respect and maturity, I believe there are SPs who would gladly see you (myself included). Good luck!!

My preference is the Local Sp......I have never tried a traveling SP but not saying there is anything wrong with them to each there own. I think we have a lot of excellent local talent here and as long as that remains and the rates are reasonable I will continue to shop locally first. It is like any thing else if you don't support local....some day you will want to got to the "store" and it will be gone. Just my 2 cents:|

So I took one for the team... 24/7 agency? I was assured prior to the appointment by a man on the phone that it would not be a bait and switch situation after I warned him I would leave if it was. Well it was a bait and switch but whats worse is this girl was obviously not in a good place. She tried to make small talk and stuff and it was just really bad. I could tell she was struggling with addiction. She had that emptiness about her. The apartment was filled with smoke. There was weed out on the table. It was a truly Disgusting scene. I turned and left. Makes me sick how people can be exploited this way. 24/7 agency = very bad. Stay away.

Sign up and be counted. Feel free to post in this thread to bump it up often :) http://www.change.org/petitions/the-honourable-peter-mackay-say-no-to-the-nordic-model-and-yes-to-decriminalization-of-sex-work-in-canada?recruiter=38982431&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

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I think a lot of ladies have a general idea of the age group they are comfortable seeing. I generally see no one under 30 and of course there are always expectations. I have a client in Sydney now a regular and he really rocks. His initial letter was that of a very mature man. Name, rank and serial number. No reference as he was new but all work information easily verified. His age 22. Aside from the fact he looks very young to me, blindfold me and he could be 40 or 50. He always books way ahead , is always on time and treats me like a lady, no a queen. Also very understanding to my schedule and will move around if I ask him . He is such a great client I would write him a recco if possible.

First and foremost, if planning this for an evening encounter with a professional companion, ask her first. Some ladies may prefer to not go into a hot tub/Jacuzzi. RG

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Or a "Pelt our troops with rocks and garbage!" sticker.

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While--generally--it is not a good idea to generalize, and though I can see how it would be frustrating, try to see it from the lady's perspective and it might not seem so personal. I don't think any lady here would say that every young person is immature. And age doesn't always bring wisdom, and no doubt there are older fellows who cause just as much aggravation. But if a lady finds that a given demographic is more inclined to no-show, haggle, or just not make for as good an overall experience, then at the end of the day it's her call to decide just to make a rule not to see anyone of a certain age. Yes, this probably means also missing out on some good potential clients, but that's not disrespect, it's simply her right. Most of us probably don't realize the degree of presumption and time-wasters a lady has to deal with on a regular basis, so we can't begrudge anything that makes them feel more comfortable or makes their day-to-day a bit easier. Show that you don't take it personally, be patient, and follow the excellent advice already given to you, and I've no doubt you'll have a chance to prove yourself and find a lady you can have a great experience with.

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Pappy if u ever cook any of that fresh fish right out of the water don't be shy post you'll never know who will knock at your door (lol) welcome to cerb

A brief report: I went to Barefax Thursday between 4 and 7 and here's some of the girls I saw/spoke to: Chelsey, Daisy, Sally, Sonia, Sophia, Sophie, Karma, Hennessy, Jordan, Trina, Jasmin, Grace, Sinawe, Diana, and many others that I didn't know or can't remember their names. Brazeau was also there.

Massages, showers, and hot tubs. Three of my favourite things (when accompanied by a woman or..er... women). :) Just relax, go with the flow, and enjoy. :)

Welcome to the board. Have fun. I think you'll find seeing our CERB ladies is even more fun than posting online. Porthos

A quick shout out to TheLiquor, thanks for taking this flake down! Maybe he was trying to expand his mind lol

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Second that, watch him, keep him out!!! Good spotting to the Liquor Maybe a report of him to Mod to keep an eye on him in case he changes his name to something else (can still keep track the way multiple accounts are noticed) is what is needed Sounds like a sick f*cker RG

Just be professional and mature. I am young as well and have seen sps. Don't act like those bravado men and remember to treat everyone with respect just like the way you want to be treated yourself. If they don't want to see you, then as the other member said say thanks and move on.

DON'T HAVE THE DATE AT YOUR HOME OR WHEN YOUR FAMILY COULD SHOW UP!!!!! Not only is it going to create a very major possible crisis for your family you also draw the escort in the middle of any family crisis that could evolve from you seeing her. Discretion is two way, you pay her to be discrete, but likewise the escort has all rights to expect you to be discrete. My advice, see an escort when your family isn't around, it is respectful to your family and to the escort Simple common sense goes a long way RG

For me I prefer establishlished local ladies that have had positive review

Great Question, For myself I rarely see a visiting SP, firstly because of price, secondly we have a good selection of top service local girls in Wpg. which provide greater VFYM ( you are included in this list). I also prefer to see a local girl whom either has several good reviews by someone I trust, or I have personally seen her and want to continue seeing her. I think over the past several years , Wpg is seeing more & more lower level girls falsely advertising themselves, and providing subpar service, while at the same time we saw a sharp increase in touring girls who were giving above average service at a slightly higher price. However now I think we are seeing more & more touring girls charging much higher prices, and many are giving sub par service, resulting in many frustrated clients, and clients keep looking for that diamond in the rough, and because of the way the local scene has tended to go , many clients forget about the great local girls. Adding into the mix , I think we have seen a decrease in quality girls at the local MP's for various reasons, which just adds to the confusion. My personal opinion is that quality local girls , like yourself, are on the verge of seeing renewed interest in the the local homegrown gal , who gives consistent top quality service, at a reasonable cost. IMHO 200hr is reasonable, and we have enough great local girls to satisfy ones desire for variety. Hopefully more local guys start supporting local. Just my 2c worth.

I am in sales...this is no different that any product or service. Every customer is going to have a different reason for buying. Advertising is still key, the new generation is all about reviewing the product on line before they buy. Winnipeggers are frugal and always want a deal. They need to be lured in by thinking they are getting a better deal by coming to you vs someone else. Free giveaways seem to work well....4sessions get the5 th one free. Additional Comments: To answer your question Zoe...local vs visiting sp does not make a diference to me other than supporting your local economy...which i am a huge believer!! Its all about best value.(bang for your buck) Additional Comments: P.s. check out Zoe zee's new fiery red hair....IT looks great!