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I understand this must be rather frustrating for you. When we have an intimate connection with someone, and spend a couple or a few hours intertwined with someone both physically and emotionally, it's hard to not have expectations or desire something more. (More is vague, but I think everyone knows what I mean). It's true that everyone is busy, but people (in general) are usually selective about who they are friends with. This happens both in the industry, and outside of it. I'm certain you don't talk to every friend on your Facebook, just the ones you really care about, right? I'm not suggesting these SPs don't care about you, but I can only imagine how frustrating it gets to receive these sorts of PMs, texts, and e-mails continuously from every client, when most of those clients never book an appointment with them again. We all learn from experience, and there are a lot of people in this industry who will see a girl once and then never see her again, but expect texts, e-mails, and friendly PMs. I don't think that's a fair expectation to have. Once you've established a regular connection with an SP or MA, that's a different story, but when you've only seen someone once? That's a bit more complicated to navigate, and will definitely be dependent on how busy the worker is (both personally and professionally). I know it sucks, but that's the way it is =( You're definitely not the only one that feels that way, but we all learn with experience. I really hope you find what you're looking for, Nat xox

Zoro, I hope this doesn't count as backlash, but in this my sympathies are with the lady. Now, I too will sometimes send a hello or good wish to a lady I have seen, but if they have the time and interest to reply back I consider that a bonus, not an expectation. You ask "is it so hard to reply back with a hi"....well, yes, for some maybe it is. You point out that you are busy but still have time to chat with friends on Facebook. But surely you must see for the that the relationship the ladies have with us gents here is not in any way the same as your buddies on Facebook? Now, I'm not saying some don't become friends in a way, and it's not like there aren't conversations that happen. But again, that's a bonus when it does! It seems to me that a lot of grief and hurt that happens is when people have expectations that don't get met. You asked an honest question, but the answer I think is that, in this case, the expectation may be unrealistic. To be frank, when a lady shares her time with us we are not buying the right to her friendship. And if a lady doesn't have time to carry on pleasantries with every past client that is her right. And consider this, if they do give a quick hello back, does that not just encourage future messages? If there is no time or interest in such, isn't it better just to make that clear early? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong to offer the occasional hello or see if someone wants to have a conversation. But they are not wrong or even rude if they don't want to take you up on it. Best.

Well I realize this is a Winnipeg thread ....and I do live outside the perimeter of Winnipeg. Country boy and all ......... But I shall chime in anyways. From coast to coast : Winnipeg is becoming well known for no shows. Winnipeg is becoming well known for double bookings. Winnipeg is becoming well known for trying to lower rates. Winnipeg is becoming well known for being unnecessarily being rude to the ladies. Winnipeg is becoming well known for ladies requiring deposits. Out of necessity. Winnipeg is becoming well known for the BP growing list of scammers because the fellas are looking for cheaper rates. Not sure how that is working out ? .... A downward spiral that has created a situation that has decreasing reputable locals in business, at least advertising for new clients and participating on the boards. Verrrry hard for someone new to develop a good reputation in Wpg right now. And travelling gals that won't come to the city near as often if at all and many require deposits which seems to be balked at as well. Word gets out and some of the new travelling women bypass Wpg. Too bad really. Ie. Lost Interest from hobbyists as the thread indicates. Lost income for the ladies. Compliments of our very own pooners. On a side note.....it doesn't seem to be realized sometimes that a post of this nature will be responded to possibly from every province on this board and any board. Most trying to help and offer opinions and advise. Heed the advise....or ignore it .... your choice. If you are asking about "so and so" on Ellice then you probably will keep it to "Winnipeg"

There should be no backlash, you are asking a legitimate question and stating an experience. My answer-When we are with you we are your friend and lover, you are paying us to be, sorry to be blunt, but that's the way it is and when we leave it's done-you are paying for that as well:) But I do think it's only polite to respond to a pm, especially a quick hi, hello or nice to hear from you, etc. I respond to all my pm's, even phone conversations from past clients and send out greetings on holidays, although my friend list has grown so much sometimes I'll make a post to wish all happy holidays,etc:) Sometimes expecting someone to chat may be to much for some though. Imagine if every client we saw wanted to have a conversation? I feel bad that you're feeling blown off, none of us should want a one time or repeat client to have those feelings. Perhaps there were or are unknown reasons for the no replies, or short ones, since I don't know anything about your exchanges I can't make an opinion. You shouldn't take it personally though, hugs:) Something I've learned-never expect anything from anyone and you'll never be disappointed:) but always stay true to yourself. If it makes you feel better to reach out to someone then do so, just don't be disappointed with their response, that's on them:)

As has been stated chemistry is huge. So if you have met the 2 ladies prior and you are relaxed and comfortable with each other and have chemistry...... and the ladies know each other it is soooooooooooooo much fun Gentleman 11 !! The key is to just relax .... don't envision a whole bunch of expectations..... keep an open mind and let things flow naturally ..... and then just enjoy :) All parties are there to have fun . and that it is ;)

I been in this hobby for about five years since I turned 18 I cannot think on how many ladies I have seen in my life. I would say about 90 percent of them have been nice and friendly during our time spent together but after out session if I want to message them days or weeks later just for a quick hi how are you or a chat I get blown off or just ignored. Yes I understand some ladies are busy but is it so hard to reply back with a hi?. Even though I am getting my ged doing homework plus doing what else I do with my life I still have time to chat to friends on facebook. Sorry I had to get this off my chest

WOW! Some strong words on you "gottarocker" Please remember everyone has their own personal opinions wants and needs and can find true beauty in even the most disgusting of women. I am sure you could have been a little gentler with your the way you expressed your feelings. May I suggest private messaging or an idea- You could say something like - Yes I have met her she was not to my liking however you may enjoy her company. Then you could invite anyone interested to p.m you for more information. That is when you can express any and all concerns. That way you are giving the sp a fighting chance and the gentleman the opportunity to make his own decision. Cerb is a "friendly" recommendation bored. Not for nasty reviews. I am not one to stick my nose where it does not belong but I do believe outing someone on a public form is un called for. Note To All- All persons have feelings Xox Selena

service providers are, indeed, wonderful. And they provide a lot of things we might be missing in our lives, including both physical and emotional intimacy. Over time, if you build a relationship with a regular, they may even become a friend. Even there, the boundaries and parameters of that friendship may be different than other friendships. It is a hard line to travel, for both the lady and client. Don't be surprised that the occasional "hello" message doesn't get replied to. As Nat rightly says, there can be lots of reasons why this might be. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with you, whether you were nice or not. Don't interpret it as a negative commentary on you, but you may want to reassess your expectations of what you want from seeing providers.

I couldn't agree more ;) Chemistry is very important to me, which is why I will only offer duos with ladies I have met before; that way, we know that we are compatible so that everyone gets to have a fun time!

I'll disagree with you. This isn't a problem it's a discussion thread. One that was added to by multiple gentlemen sharing a similar sentiment about the industry as a whole. The OP also indicated many potential reasons for his boredom, his new relationship etc.... Our replies are to the thread as a whole and to the many people who have voiced opinions and asked questions. I don't see that the thread has gone off topic as the discussion was about the OP losing interest in his hobbying, not the state of affairs in Winnipeg for adult companionship. Kelly

When posts are made on the public forum that ALL CERBite's can read and reply to, you are bound to get input from across Canada, not just from Winnipeg SP/Clients Might I suggest if you want to keep Winnipeg issues exclusive to only Winnipeg SP/Clients, start a Social Group on CERB and restrict it's membership to only Winnipeg CERBite's, and you all can discuss to your hearts content in private without reading anything from the rest of us and we in turn won't comment because we won't be reading posts about Winnipeg RG

I wonder if it is boredom or is it that it is easy to take things for granted when they come too easily? There is something lost when you can fulfill all of your sexual desires and fantasies without the art of seduction. Much of the excitement doesn't come from the sexual acts it comes from the anticipation and the dance to get there. An experienced provider will ensure the dance of seduction is a part of your session. Its seems the limits in this industry are fading or are shifting. It's imperative that the girls have boundaries. Not just to protect themselves but to protect the mystique of the provider. If it becomes just about the items on a pick list of services the excitement will fade quickly. If you know how every session will play out and everything that will happen there is no seduction that occurs. The excitement of mutual touching and teasing is missing. The need to seduce a woman with your charm and personality is unnessecary if you have already picked your menu. Even though this is a service, we are humans and without maintaining the art of seduction something is lost. A percentage of guys want something a little more than drive-thru sex. Maybe you are one of those guys and just have been looking for something a little more cerebral. Less is often more! Kelly xo

I think you mean transgender, rather than transsexual. It's a little more inclusive, and less medicalized. https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender Additional Comments: Well, firstly, let's not make assumptions about what the "majority" wants. What you find completely normal may seem strange to someone else, so let's not be judgypants about sexual partners or activities. Secondly, the gender of the person is being revealed; they identify as a woman, and their gender identity is female. Gender and sex are two different things. Someone's sex is their classification at birth, generally based on their genetic makeup and internal/external reproductive organs. And thirdly... what is a "real" woman? What is a "real" man? Is it our sexual organs? Our genetic makeup? Whether we act in a way that conforms to society's ideas about what is feminine and what is masculine? I'll stop with the rambling, here's some fun pictures :)

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Yeah, I'm late. But thanks to MisterT and Loneskater for their hard work organizing the party... and thanks to everyone for showing up and generally being fantastic! Lots of fun... as usual!

I haven't been on here that long and have had nothing but positive interactions, but I guess this forum is the same as society as a whole, overall good people, but a few a$$es who are intent on bringing others down. Don't let it get you down, the good will always outnumber the bad.

Like a few others in this thread, I've never had the pleasure of a duo but the thought appeals to me big time. I'm enjoying listening to the tone of the posts here which all see to have a common "be genuine be real" feel to them. I've had the fortune of spending time with few of the SP's here and have really enjoyed it. I guess its time to think about stepping up my game and trying the duo.

My first duo was with Carrie Moon and wow what a lady :) It was my first duo experience as a provider and yes we were fully interactive as I think its a must in a menage a trois :) Thank you Carrie for taking my Virgin duo cherry lol... Eva Pearl is also an amazing duo Partner... we were asked for a duo from a cerb member who had seen both of us separately...the chemistry was...oufff :D Another great threesome I had was with my reg from the state...he knew the other lady( not a provider) for a good 10yrs and suggested we get together...omg I some point I was forgetting the gent hihi...thats wow intense the connection was... my client never complained ;) Oh my...never thought I would love licking pussysssss that much! :D IMO, if you know the ladies separately and they mention that they would be fully interactive in a threesome...I doubt you would be disappointed ;) BJ xxx

I have found that if you can get the right combination with two ladies that there is nothing better! It is heaven, especially if one of them is Cleo, or Zoe from Kingston! Both amazing women!

The subject of child abuse and spousal abuse brings great concern to me. I grew up witnessing both. In Ontario, The Child and Family Services Act recognizes that each and everyone of us holds a responsibility for the protection of children. It does not matter if your facts are accurate or just mere suspicions - You must report them to the Children's Aid Society (CAS). They have tried to make reporting as easy as possible. In most major cities (Ontario) you can call "4-1-1". That is a very easy number to remember. http://www.oacas.org/childwelfare/report.htm http://www.children.gov.on.ca/htdocs/English/topics/childrensaid/reportingabuse/abuseandneglect/abuseandneglect.aspx

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Note to self. Don't leave here for awhile and then come back to this thread....it's a long one. Chin up, everyone. Life's tough for all of us at times. Life's tribulations suck at times, but they define who we are. If they didn't bother us, there's something wrong. If our troubles didn't bother our friends, there's something wrong with our friends. We're a good bunch on here, over all.

Everything can become mundane if done to much, to often or doesn't hold it's excitement or challenges any longer. The reasons may be many and varied, only you know. Nothing wrong with moving on, taking a break or just waiting. We all have to do what's right for us, but do it without blame and be happy:) Additional Comments: This doesn't sound like boredom, more fed up, or frustration. Yes our prices rise, they have to, as everything else does. As far as asking for pictures, if this occurs a lot then there are reasons. Remember we have to feel secure and safe with whom we meet, we also need to know we are meeting you-the person you say you are. With disposable phones and one use emails etc it's gets easier and easier for the game players. If I can't verify a gents info then I'll ask for an emailed copy of his license. I'm a professional, my job is discretion so to question my trust or another pro's isn't necessary. I apologize if services are being cut, this I don't understand unless there are issues at hand, hygiene or something else for example. In the end this is as exciting as YOU want it to be. The key is finding YOUR right girl/girls and I hope you do:)

Yeh it is too bad some people are just so pissed with their lives they need to be mean to others. Report it, ignore it, and then surround yourself with those who care about you and are positive. You'll find lots of that on CERB. Big virtual bear hugs from afar! Cub

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You're right! I did notice Ariel - but since Cato hasn't been around, I forgot to mention it. :-) Audrey looked particularly inviting as well and deserves a mention.

Well my two cents. If you see a lady once, and that's it, I personally think expecting on going emails/PM's/texts is unreasonable. Possibly a thank you email (either from you to her or vice versa) for a good encounter and maybe sending a copy of the recommendation (if you wrote one) to her for her preview first, but that's it. Now in the case of a lady who you have gone beyond seeing just once, a different matter. She is a lady who, well you are a regular client of hers. In fact your encounters seem less SP/Client and more like friends getting together. In such cases you may very well have regular emails beyond just scheduling an encounter. Emails just connect you two between encounters so to speak What has to be kept in mind, are your emails going to be viewed by the lady in the same light as "tire kicker" type emails? Or are they emails from a regular client/friend who she will see again. If the former, don't expect a lot of replies. But if the latter, it is very possible that the lady will email back. Anyhow, a rambling RG

Unfortunately there are dishonest, unrespectful men out there. I imagine every single lady out there has a horror story or two to share. What is happening in Winnipeg isn't exclusive to this industry. Winnipeg is riddled with poverty, unemployment, crime, violence, drugs, you name it. It is one of the poorest, least maintained cities in the country. Many of the girls that advertise are scammers, crackheads, or even nonexistent ( ads being placed by men). Even some of the so called professionals are well known to cancel or no show on a far too often basis. I've been cautious enough to carefully select who I visit. I do name searches, photo searches, use boards such as this, tineye, etc.. I feel I have become quite good at choosing the correct lady. Even then, I would estimate the no show rate to be in the 20-25% range. Absolutely unacceptable in any other profession. The only one I can say has been 100% as expected is VIPOTG, but I also know others have had issues there. Even CERB is a problem. Remember it is a recommendation board, not a review board. Well that helps the ladies more than it does the men. I would love to be on here posting names and dates of no shows, bad experiences, sketchy situations. Then we could quickly see patterns emerge and know exactly who are the unreliable SPs .Unfortunately that is not allowed. So we see the all too common " can't comment" or pm me. Like I stated before, for myself I'm watching for the well known, well reviewed travelling ladies and will continue on that path until I see an improvement in this city.

I was writing a deep and thought provoking thread and my computer crashed. By the time my computer re-booted and I logged back into CERB. I forgot what it was that I was writing about. :( I guess that is a clue I should call it quits for tonight.

Don't forget Ariel! Her hair colour totally threw me off. I didn't realize it was her until it was time to go (due to empty wallet syndrome).

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Hearty congratulations for another great Social. The Socials have become an integral part of what makes the CERB community a community. I thoroughly enjoyed the brief time I could be there. I was called away with every intention of returning but I got a call on the way back that precluded my return. Looking forward to the next one!

Well this was my first and def not my last :) I had a blast me the lovely ladies and getting too know them. Thanks gentleman for doing a fine job, and too all the girls I just want too say WOW!!! Can't wait for the next

Why is it Canadians are always disappointed on the first day of Spring? Most of us have lived here all our lives and know that Spring generally arrives one month later than the calendar states. On a related rant... Why is it we forget how to drive in the snow at the start of every winter? Why is it we get surprised by the first snowfall and scramble to get snow tires installed? Why is it we tend to complain about the cold in winter and complain equally about the heat in summer? We should all live in a mall where everyday is nice, warm and dry.

I would like to very politely disagree that hobbyists are at any significant risks. Most reputable providers take great care to ensure that there would never be any unpleasant souvenirs of your time. Really I must say and I am sure I will be echoed here , you stand a much higher chance of contracting a STD my meeting someone downtown. Fact, reputable ladies are tested regularly and are very careful about their sexual health. Personally speaking if you were to visit me with " sprays or ointments " I would not be receptive to this . I'm not sure if any ladies I know would enjoy being sprayed or have ointments rubbed on them. But perhaps there is something out there that I have not yet heard of . But be sure to warn any date if you plan to spray her with anything.

Sure, some others are losing interest. Some aren't. The trick right now is to look inside yourself and ask: why exactly are YOU losing interest? You've noticed a change in yourself; now pick up that thread, and follow where it leads inside yourself. Do that, and you'll learn something unique about YOU that nobody else can tell you. Additional Comments: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Hissssssssss. :)

I see there are some very nice ladies visiting Moncton this weekend--I wish I could meet them, but not this time--so, I thought I'd stand up and shout: "Treat 'em well!" I'm fairly new around the board, but I've been disappointed reading about Moncton's reputation and the fact that some great ladies just will not come here any longer. Not good for the rest of us. You've heard it before, but I haven't put my two cents in...until now. ;)

I hear ya. And I believe there's an expiry date. Peace MG

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I think this is something that can be easily addressed in a private exchange (email or PM) with at least one of the ladies if you are interested in spending time with them in a menage a trois. Personally, I do not publically reveal the details of what I do on my own time; if I decide to meet with another companion in a social context and XYZ happens between us and we discover that have great chemistry together, I/we might just announce that we decided to become a duo team based on the desire to spend more intimate time together in a menage a trois setting. As professionals, we want to offer our gentlemen a fantastic and memorable experience therefore the key ingredients (and then some) need to be present in order for all of us to fully enjoy each other! Without those, you are just spending time with 2 ladies who are available to meet with you on the same date, time and location. Bisexuality and full interaction in a menage a trois rocks!

Of course it does (;)) and it works wonders! Add a sensual prostate massage in the mix at the same time and... I've been told on many occasions that it's one of the most ultimate feeling a man can ever experience!

For me, there is only one definition of a duo, AKA a three-way. That is to have the pleasure equally shared by all three people. Good sex is about sharing pleasure, not about only receiving it. Great sex (at least great 3-way sex) is about enjoying the the giving, receiving, and active participation of all three people, the gender of who is pleasuring who is unimportant. BTW, the same applies for great 2-way sex!