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Undercutting and competition should never be allowed in any industry. Collusion is the only way we can all be happy.

Since the OP is looking for advice at the beginning of his journey, perhaps it would be better to advise him to take a woman's word at face value. Asking an SP for something she clearly states is a no-go is not a good way to begin. Everyone's experience is different but for me, SPs that advertise CBJ are quite handy at getting that hoodie on there before the fun begins. YMMV

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I think it's up to everyone to set their own rates. It's a personal decision, and one based on a lot of factors that we might not necessarily know about. "Do 'they' even know the cost of living in Canada?" I'm assuming you're talking about recent immigrants of migrant laborers? I'm sure they do know the cost of living here, but need to make a certain amount of money to make ends meet. I have no idea, we aren't walking in their shoes after all... Ultimately we can't judge. We don't know anything about their lives or what determined their rates, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with self-respect or fairplay either... it's just people trying to make a living in ways they see fit. These things have a tendency of working themselves out. I'm really sorry it's making life difficult for you, Eve. I think that the really good clients, clients who are respectful and kind, will continue to see the ladies they want, regardless of the cost. I don't think it will drive your prices down at all. People are always transitioning in and out of the industry... Those that stick around (like you) and have good reputations (like you) will be successful in the long run. We need to hold our judgment and be in solidarity with one another. It's a tough industry! Just my two cents, Nat xox

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It's all in the connection for me, which has been stated several times. Time and finances don't allow me to hobby too often and I love to window shop, but when I do find the opportunity to visit a lady, I tend to avoid the price extremes. However, those price extremes too often do not reflect the experience. There's a true gem or 10 at every price level for me. I have met ladies in very humble surroundings (not dirty.....just humble) that I really fell for......genuine human beings. I have met the mid-range ladies that I felt soooo comfortable with. I have met the odd slightly more expensive lady that were the most down-to-earth people you'd ever want to meet and never regretted the extra money. Like another poster said, I'm not cheap, but I am frugal. If we enjoy ourselves- at whatever price point- you've made me happy. So far, the ladies I have met have either been incredibly good actresses or we have both just been normal human beings who have enjoyed each others' company. The ladies I enjoy are the same ones I would enjoy regardless of circumstances and price is not the determining factor.

Summer, even though we have not met, I can certainly understand why you had lower pricing to start your SP career. To me, a lady is not "undercutting" others when she first starts out with lower prices, but she is simply gauging her (or his) level of companionship. After a while, with recommendations and experience, adjusting her pricing to what she feels is appropriate; in effect, EARNING her justification. New providers will always draw attention from established ones, that's just the nature of the business.

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As i retired "older gent" hobbiest on a ever declining fixed income let me say that price does matter. Not that I'm a Walmart shopper,but after surveying a ladies web page, and I admit to being a visual person, and find an SP (there are many) that appeal to me I turn to the Donations section. If a the time my "piggy bank" can stand the intrusion I pursue the inclination. However if it cant stand the run on the bank I put my urges on hold for a time, and even may double up on my contributions to the "discretionary" expenditure so that I can eventually spend quality time with a desired companion. Should someone appeal to me with a low price it in no way diminishes my desire to to contact them,as I will be ready to TOFTT This said i find myself drawn to the SPs that are in the "normal" to "low end high" range for CERB members, who have always provided a most relaxing and enjoyable encounter and am not sure that the additional wait time (for the bank to fill) to obtain a high end priced companion would provide an experience any more satisfying than my "budget allows. This said i'm not cheap but am a frugal spender.

FunValerie hit the nail on the head here with this quote. We are selling exactly that. A gentleman will look for who he is attracted to, chemistry clicks, services he wants, and makes his decision from there. those that 'undercut`tend to do it for quantity rather than quality sometimes, which is a shame. Albeit, there are circumstances that we don`t know about in why some do this. I have advertised `special rate`for a certain day, and had someone contact me three weeks later asking for the service for THAT particular rate, just because someone else is offering it. I may have placed 5 or 6 ads since that particular rate, and the gentleman has said, `well then, let me know when your going to offer it again at that price`. First of all, its not up to me to let you know when I am offering special rates, its up to you to look for what you are seeking. Hence the reason for advertising. It`s potential clients like this that make the undercut girls have a lot of business sometimes. Those gentleman are only looking at getting their rocks off at the lowest price. Not someone that I want to see. I would rather have a gentleman that wants to see me for me, and the services that I offer. A few have stated the same thing here in this thread, that rates are not a local thing, it is up to the particular SP what he or she is going to rate specific services at, and why. Base your rates on your services, how you feel you present yourself and if you have something that you offer that no one else does, or few do offer. Services are going to be different all over the place, so are rates, gentlemen are looking for what is attractive to them, so I wouldn`t worry about the 'ùndercutters`, when someone says to me, `'oh, so and so does this for $xx', I just tell that person to go to them then, as I am not reducing my rate just because someone else does. Most of us have non-negotiable rates, so why bother even asking for a reduction, I consider it rude for anyone to ask for a reduced rate. Have your rates as to what you feel your services and you are worth.

I have just come to realize that my touring rates are lower than most providers similar to me. Its not something I ever consciously noticed until I was reference checking for my current tour and noticed than some of the ladies I was contacting have rates substantially higher than mine. I had a gent book a four hour date and when he provided his reference and I checked her site I noticed that she's getting the same donation for 3 hours as I'm getting for four. So I started checking others and I'm substantially below the other touring ladies rates. NOT INTENTIONAL!! I might increase my rates next tour to keep me more in line with others so I'm not undercutting and offending or annoying anyone.

I am a very positive, spiritual person and I support everyone for what they want to do and I try my best not to judge anyone based on ANYthing. I charge $XXX/hr inclusive and that by no means indicates how I value myself. I am NOT a stupid woman nor am I blind to the market where I am. I am also open to my limitations with hours, looks, wardrobe etc. No one knows my situation nor do they know me or what I deal with on a daily basis. I am a quality provider who cares, who has amazing skills and I try to connect with my clients. I shun many of the industry "norms" because I don't agree with them. I give pleasure because I love it and I want to do it. To have someone comment there are no quality providers at my price point or that I am not attractive because of my price point or that I am not a serious provider or in it for the long haul, to that I say piss on you...I am amazing. I may not be for everyone but for those who see what I am and what I give.. I am NOT my price point. I get very tired of these threads. The bottom line is do what you want. Do what makes you happy. Do what makes you feel good about you and fuck everyone else. If someone does it different say "you go girl". There are enough people against us in this industry without driving it home amongst ourselves. Enough already. Everyone has a place no matter rates, menu, looks, age, sex, or any other factor involved. We are all in this together and we are all important. One year in the making...I hope I said it in a positive manner.

I'm with Nat on this one.... the rate a lady chooses is up to her, and her only. There is no set local price. We don't know the reasons behind why someone decides on a rate to charge, and we have no right to pass judgement on them for what they decide. Charging a lower rate doesn't mean the person has no self-respect. It could mean they are comfortable providing their services at that rate. Or it could mean they need the money. Or it could mean many things. Similar things have been said about providers who choose to offer 15-minute specials, and I firmly believe none of us has the right to look down our noses at the girls who choose to do so, and I belive the same about the rate issue. What other girls charge has no effect on my business. My clients come to see ME, and I believe most of them would no matter what I charged. I am not concerned about 'losing' clients to lower-priced providers. Clients don't 'belong' to us anyway.

Of course not being a man I don't have any final word . However I think the best blow job is the one you are presently enjoying . I had great fun last night entertaining a lovely man with my duo partner . Clearly this gentleman was so happy I'm not sure if he noticed when we moved and changed positions . I personally believe a man receives the best blow job when he looks dazed and totally confused and is not even aware exactly where he is . This is what I saw last night and again I'm not sure if he knew exactly what was going on where !

Letting a fart out that I've been holding way too long after I'm well out of sight, sound and smell of any ladies.

Had an occasion a few years back where I arrived at the lady's location, went in and there was a child sitting on the couch watching television. I asked "what gives" and she said, "it's okay, he won't disturb us, he'll sit and watch cartoons". The whole situation creeped me out and I handed the lady a twenty for her troubles said "sorry" and walked out. Perhaps I was wrong but it felt right at the time, and I'd probably do exactly the same thing if the situation ever repeated itself.

Not only do you share your insights, thoughts and playful nature but you support those within our community whether through greetings, banter or recommendations. Thanks for all you do and looking forward to more...although I get you mixed up with peachy a lot (sorry peachy). lol

Okay, here it goes. I became a CERB member a good long while ago and have yet to post (until now I guess), and was hoping to get some feedback. I have never before availed myself of any services available in this industry, but I've learned a fair bit about it by joining CERB and reading some absolutely terrific commentary. I'm 53 years old (6'0", 165 lbs), I've been divorced for about 18 years now, and there is absolutely nothing I regret about my life. Answering to nobody and doing what I want, when I want, are things I could no longer give up. I've had a small handful of brief flings along the way, but none I would have cared to pursue. Quite frankly (and at the risk of sounding like a dirty old man), I'm no longer interested in any experiences with the type of women I'm capable of attracting in real life. Is this just plain wrong? Or am I on to something here? I guess the biggest issue for me (and excuse my naivety) would be being sure I'd be hiring someone in the industry who LOVES being in the industry. That would be important to me.

The girls have weekly sched. so calling to see who is working when you are planning to visit is all good. You do run the risk of showing up and learning she isn't their or is busy. They have a membership program there. I can't remember exactly but I believe it's if you pay for 4 sessions upfront you get the 5th one free. This membership gives you "booking privledge" So you can call in advance and reserve the girl of your choice. (awesome if your girl of choice is often busy) For better info I would just call and ask during the day when management is around. (am an ex employee of e.b.)

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Congratulations Peachka on your 500th post! :D

Congrats my friend! Always enjoy your contributions :) Cheers!! as here is to many more!

Congratulations Peachka on this milestone! I'm sure all will agree with me that we look forward to seeing another 500 posts from you!

I know that A is on the smaller side of things, and D is on the larger. E onwards is very big. In the end, I don't care, I like them all. Don't care for size.

Wow! How do you do that? Hmmm, I only have 495 to lol Good job Peachka

Absolutely! Congrats, Peachka!

Congrats Peachka!

I am a hobbiest. I firmly believe that in most cases, you get what you pay for. Quality comes with a price. This is not always the case, there are "good deals" in all walks of consumerism. That being said, the question here seems to be "should I be looking out for myself and set whatever price will attract clients or should I be conscious of the greater good of the collective group of SP's and be consistent with local pricing?" This is a difficult decision and is likely based on many factors which, we as a whole without knowing all the facts can judge. I would certainly have doubts about a provider offering ridiculously low prices as compared to the regional norm. I understand that we are talking about people's livelihood's here, so I can see why some of the comments have been heated. My advice is the cream will always rise to the top and those that provide consistently good service will be reviewed positively and recommended to others and that ultimately will benefit their business and their bottom line.

Congrats Peachka on your first 500.... Looking forward to reading many more posts in the future....

Lower rate does not mean lower quality, lack of companionship or giving. Rate does not determine the chemistry you can have with someone. This said by Midnite is so true. I experience all this a few tears ago with a SP who now lives in Vancouver. I didn't even know she had the lowest rates in Ottawa at the time because the connection was so strong that I never tried anyone else. This was before cerb.

I'm not sure why some determined the op was speaking about migrant workers or making judgements, she was just stating the obvious. Some that charge less do, do so to try and take clients, some do it out of necessity, some do it because they know no better and some do it for many other reasons and to those they are entitled. Pricing is personal but, it also can be a tactic.The reasons why some charge more are also many and varied. But, I'm not sure why some of the gents feel they shouldn't have an opinion to offer or why they feel they shouldn't speak on the subject, after all it really is the gents that determine our prices. Yes we set them, for whatever our reasons and choices, but without the gents paying them where would we be? So whether we chose to set them high or low or in between if there are no clients then what difference does it make what we charge. Invariably, what anyone of us does can set a standard if not, then where did all the acronyms( gfe, pse, etc) and what's involved in them come from and start? Some one or a few decided that a girl friend experience involved bbbj, kissing, passion, a non committal date, it caught on and the rest followed and set their pricing based on that type of intimacy. Someone set a standard. Changes start with one and sometimes take time but when enough start then the rest have no choice but to follow. That's business and although many have said companionship is invaluable we all still put a price on it and pay for it. So again, I feel the op had a valid point and shouldn't be criticized for bringing it up or questioning why some are doing it( undercutting).

Chances are they are undercutting, but as it's been said no one really knows. But undercutting is common, it's a way some draw quick business, quick cash. It's been done by services for ever. A lot of times they'll advertise a low rate to draw in clients then charge x for this x for that and by the end of the service the client has spent as much as he would have with a "normal" priced girl. In the end it's the clients that allow it to go on by frequenting the providers that offer these low prices. But since we can't control what anyone does, it's best to just concentrate on our own business, as frustrating as this issue is. Fair is a theory not a reality, so I'm learning, lol.

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Plagiarism (Coping text from another provider to post as your own) is NOT acceptable on cerb. Copying someone's text is the SAME as stealing someones photos. Stealing someone's text (even off another website to post it here) will get you in HOT WATER with the mods and members here on cerb. It could get you suspended or banned from cerb as well. So don't do it please. It's not nice... and I hate having my pm flooded with people telling me someone is copying someones text.

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Congratulations to Claire Heavens on being the first cerb member to have more than 100,000 visits to her profile page! That's an awesome record, and in just over two years! Well done, Claire!

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Claire also has 19 pages of recommendations, top recommended MA in Ottawa, and over a 100k views on her profile. I think that says it all, she is a class act,a genuine great lady, with personality and charm to boot, and so much fun to be with. Congratulations Claire!