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  1. 14 points
    As someone who does most of my communications, including all first-time interactions by e-mail, I would never feel comfortable answering an introductory e-mail (or any other, to be honest) with a one line response like that. For this reason, e-mails always wait until I have sufficient time to sit down and write a personal, thoughtful response. E-mail goes to my phone, but unless it's time-senstive, it won't get answered until later on when I get home, after dinner, after I'm done entertaining, or after I'm done whatever else I need to do right now. I consider my communications as part of the whole experience I offer, and so I don't half-ass it, or rush it. Good communication (on both sides) can set the whole tone of a potential encounter, and I know that my e-mails have made new clients, or nervous folks feel 100% more confident about what may come. I don't like receiving one line e-mails, so I don't send them. But while I make special time to properly answer e-mails, I may still have spare moments throughout the day, while waiting for a guest to arrive, or waiting in line at Loblaws, to send out a tweet, bump my BP ad, etc. Also, for me, I actually do my due diligence with potential client's information, including their name, e-mail, phone number, and other information I might have about them. It takes a bit of time to run it though different bad date databases, Google, and do a few other top-secret hooker tricks. So I need to sit down and pay attention to doing these things, before I can respond to the e-mail. Also, if there is a reference to check, this can bring another party into the mix, which might also extend the response time. As well, e-mails that have all the proper information, included with a friendly introduction, always get answered much sooner the other ones that I dread answering where I have to press for more info. Sometimes I also take a day or two off, when I often cut myself off from non-essential work-related communications. If I get an e-mail on Saturday, looking for an appt next Thursday, I might not answer instantaneously. At this time I might be hanging out with my family, or Tweeting online, reading and responding to threads on CERB, or whatever else I feel like doing. Then on Monday when I consider myself "back to work", I'll take the necessary time to thoughtfully respond to gentlemen's inquiries. :) I say this, but I still often reply to e-mails on my days off; I just don't feel like I am obligated to be available 24/7 to answer inquiries. Overall I think I'm a pretty good communicator, and very good with response time. The only reason I'm responding to this thread, is that I have encountered situations exactly like this, (and I know many other ladies have too), where I've had clients who I haven't even met yet, e-mail a second time questioning me because they saw me do something online before receiving a response to their initial e-mail. While I want to be reliable, accommodating, and communicate well, a while back I made a promise to myself never to be a slave to my phone, e-mail, money or clients. Because this job can sometimes be unconventional in terms of hours & scheduling etc, it's important to set personal boundaries like this. I need time for me, otherwise I'd go crazy and wouldn't be useful or fun for anyone.
  2. 11 points
    Unlike a spa location, independent and agency providers don't have a till or money box and we don't keep cash on site, I can't make change except from what the last client brought me. Honestly, the ones who need the change generally arrive with the correct donation. They've been waiting and planning for our time together; they are prepared above and beyond. During the times of my life, when $ was tight, I made sure there was no room for confusion. I do have clients that live on pension and have limited funds. They aren't the ones who ask for change. It's the men who walk in, roll off the $20's from a wad of cash that they always seem to have and then stand there expectantly waiting for a girl to go fish for the change that makes no sense to me. Funny thing, in my experience they also are the ones that seem to want to push other boundaries and ensure they "get their money's worth". A little clarification about "cheap". There is a correlation to the generousness of spirit and one's wallet that has nothing to do with a persons financial situation. It's not the act of genuinely needing the change and asking for it, it's the energy behind the ask. It's easy to feel the difference between someone who is asking out of financial necessity and one who is simply cheap by nature. Being cheap with minute amounts of cash will often reflect a miserly intention of how your share your energy and spirit. It is an anti-seducer that will dry me out faster than Mitchum applied directly to my cookie and even after adding copious amounts of lube does nothing to enhance the experience we are about to share. It's like going out to dinner where the bill is $97 and leaving $115 then waiting for the $.45 change... cat
  3. 7 points
    I think there are a couple of things going on. We tend to think of what our engagement in this hobby/lifestyle, as exactly that. Certainly, it is purchasing a lady's time and companionship, and certain services that go along with that. Asking for change drives home the commodity aspect of the transaction, rather than the "relationship" aspect of the exchange. Also, it is a luxury item, so quibbling over 5 or 10 dollars, seems cheap. I have the same reaction when people complain of having to pay for parking when they visit a service provider. If you can't afford the parking, then you shouldn't be engaging in the hobby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying the exact amount requested by the provider. But I do not think that service providers can be expected to have change on hand. If one wants to pay the exact amount, then it is incumbent on the client to make sure they've figured that out in advance. I always have my money in the envelope. I have a "tip amount" tucked away and available. There are plenty of times I've had exact change, plenty of times when I've "overpaid" by 10 bucks. But to be honest, I've rarely felt like I've actually overpaid for what I received.
  4. 5 points
    It really is as simple as "be prepared"... Or would you rather ask for change, and watch ten minutes of your session together be devoted to the provider having to get out her purse/wallet, hoping that she has the change? The awkward conversation if she doesn't? Congratulations, you just cock-blocked yourself ;)
  5. 5 points
    This week I had the pleasure of meeting a beautiful sexy CERB Lady and as is my usual practice after entering the ladies hotel room and greeting the lady I look for an appropriate table for me to discreetly place the ladies donation. On this particular day I did just that and we proceeded with a wonderful session together. When the time came to leave we kissed and hugged a few times and I was on my way back to work. Then it happened I got a text from the lovely lady politely letting me know my donation was $40.00 short.... I immediately thought no way that's not possible... how the fuck did that happen.... I had gone to the bank on the way to the session so i knew how much I should have left... I checked and sure enough... I had $40.00 more than I should have had. I texted the lady immediately and apologized and asked if I could email the money to her which I did along with a tip. I immediately thought fuck... my reputation on CERB will be shot this was a well established lady who would certainly now let it be known that I was a flake who shorted her... thankfully she did not do that she accepted my apology and was extremely professional about it. Since then we have exchanged a few texts and are looking forward to meeting again. So why post this... well two reasons: Mistakes happen but when they do and the parties involved deal with them professionally things can work out for everyone. So that I can take this opportunity to thank Bianca Jaguar for her understanding of my mistake and for her professional approach to the issue. Thanks Bianca
  6. 5 points
    Point taken. I myself used the term 'mortified' in my post. However, that wasn't based on my own judgment of people necessarily, but rather, my own discomfort at having to discuss finances explicitly with clients when we are face-to-face. I have no right to judge anyone. Conversely, many clients do try to get 'deals', or cheaper appointments if they are having financial difficulties. Unfortunately, I can't take responsibility if one of my clients can't afford to see me... It's hard not to get judgmental in this industry when I think of someone asking for change. As others have said, I do think it's the responsibility of the client him or herself to insure they have the appropriate amount. It has never happened to me (thank goodness) and I'm sure I would handle the situation gracefully. But I would be lying if I said it wouldn't throw me off. I'm just being completely honest here. Nat xox Additional Comments: Totally agree re: the labels! I need to park my judgment!
  7. 5 points
    Of course they do. It is definitely a case-by-case basis. I also have clients with disabilities (both visible and invisible) and their disposable income is limited. Some of my clients save for upwards of a year to be able to afford to come and see me. Never has one of these clients asked for change, or come unprepared for our meeting. In fact, there is quite a lot of preparation that goes into these encounters (both on my part, and on the part of my client). I'm sorry you feel a lot of the generalizations in this thread are judgmental and unkind. I can definitely see how that could come across but I don't agree that the judgments are necessarily negative. Feeling uncomfortable in these situations is a very real feeling, and we all have knee-jerk reactions to the intersections of intimacy and money which may or may not be rational. Of course, if I knew one of my clients was in dire financial situations I would not judge him or her for asking for their $10. I would, however, take offense to someone who was not in dire financial need who did the same. These are all case-by-case situations, of course, and the OPs initial question was, after all, asking for a general idea of what peoples reactions would be (not specifics). I think Porthos' post gets at the core of the issue quite well, and so I won't repeat it.
  8. 4 points
    I just saw Jamie Lee Curtis and spoke with her in the hotel coffee shop....She is just stunning....
  9. 4 points
    You forgot sexy Mister! Beauty, brains and a dirty mind! I love this community and the variety of people here. So many different thoughts, perspectives, kinks, vanillas, support, love (and the not so great stuff too). Can I be a flagpole instead of a cornerstone? I like poles! :icon_twisted:
  10. 4 points
    Regarding the label of cheap... If you went to a restaurant with friends and your bill came out to 36 dollars. If you handed two 20's and sat at the table waiting for your server to get you your two toonies every one of your friends would call you cheap, regardless of what you needed those toonies for. Your server would be standing there with an internal monologue of what did i do to upset this person, or wow this guys is cheap. The question isn't whether you need to pay more or whether anyone can question how you spend your money. If you don't want to pay that extra 5 or 10 then dont give it to her in the first place. Society is full of judgements and expectations, and this would qualify as cheap in most service industries. If you don't want to or cant afford to tip then take the extra diligence to not draw attention to the payment process.
  11. 4 points
    You might want to check out the bait and switch section here http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125521 ....and she used a different name as early as last week
  12. 3 points
    With respect, I really don't understand what the first part of your post has to do with this thread. Yes, sadly, there exists exploitation and harms within the industry; however, there exists the same within any other industry. I don't see why this was brought into the conversation.
  13. 3 points
    While I would not consider someone asking me for change cheap as he is totally entitled to it, I agree with what many had pointed out here, most of us providers post our fees in ads, websites or/and profiles so is not like the client who walks somewhere not knowing how much he will spend. Now, if I were the kind of provider who is a clock watcher and as soon as I see the hour or two are almost over start rushing things then I would understand clients being as careful with their money as I am with my time but with me not working like that then I think someone asking me for a $5 or $10 back would be as awkward and inappropriate as me saying 'Time is up' please leave besides, for safety purposes I do not keep cash on me other than a $20 and maybe some spare change but I would find it awkward to have to go get my purse and that to give someone change back and having to count dimes, quarters. etc. to give someone change back. However IF an exceptional situation presented with someone I had previously met and let's say he knows he only has $100 bills and would need $80 back but will have no time to stop by a bank or ATM or for discretion purposes can't take money out from ATM, then as long as I'm giving enough notice I wouldn't mind having the change ready for him in an envelope same way my fee is given to me and would give it to him upon arrival after getting my envelope and as usual not mention anything about it during our time together but as I said this would be an exception and would only do it for someone I consider reliable.
  14. 3 points
    I actually do see your point. And think it is great you have change available for those who don't have the exact amount. In such cases as you cite yes I wouldn't see needing change as cheap. But quoting myself, second last line in my post "Now there may be some who do need that change, but my feeling is most of the men asking for change, the same sort of guys who complain about clock watchers" I'm not talking about those who really are in need of the change, but my guess, the vast majority of clients aren't really in need of the change. I also think it is great that you do offer change. But I guess no matter which side someone cites, either now it is coming down on the side of clients having the correct amount ready, or on the side that the lady should have change available for those clients who bring too much money Personally, I am of the opinion that clients should have the correct amount available and they should not expect, nor should it be required of the lady to have change. RG
  15. 3 points
    From my perspective.... If a lady says your visit is valued at $370, you put $370 in the envelope and that's it. Period. You knew up front - there was no "guesstimate" involved. I suspect you will travel past a store or bank or gas station or ?? and be able to break a $20 (or get the correct change) if it's an issue for you between your location, and the lady's. Generally speaking, you enter the lady's location, hug/kiss and place the envelope with your previously agreed amount in clear view. You enjoy your encounter and leave. Simple. For the most part, the ladies I have met rarely touch the envelope until I leave. Perhaps they peek when I go to clean up, which is fine, but it usually, is right where I placed it when I came in, throughout the encounter and when I leave. In my opinion, asking for change is just plain tacky. But, that's just this man's opinion :)
  16. 3 points
    For me this issue is not about right or wrong or a guy being cheap.... i just think a guy should come prepared and not expect the lady to make change. If I did not have correct change I would consider it a tip as financially I can afford that if I could not I would understand that if I don't arrive with correct change I can't expect the lady to solve my problem. If you can plan ahead for the visit this should not be a problem. Just my opinion.
  17. 3 points
    This is funny, sorry but I find it comical truly I do. :) I can't understand someone asking for change especially looking for 5/10 bucks back, lol. I recall a couple of visits where the ladies actually said " you gave me too much" wanted to hand it back, I smiled and said " you're cute, but no, that's yours,grab some lunch or dinner for yourself,enjoy"
  18. 2 points
    Hoping I can make it this time...
  19. 2 points
    There is only one swinging/ couples club left in Ottawa. It's open to pre registered couples and single women. Bashful and bold. It's in a industrial park and it's BYOB. I've been a couple of times and had a lot of fun actually. As for parties. There is a meet and greet held every couple of months by this couple. Last time was at a Irish pub. 350 ppl attended. No play at the pub of course but you can network and organize to meet couples in whatever way you want. Again you need to pre register with this couple directly. AFF might be a better site for you to try with your significant other. Of course if you're a single guy just looking to bang other peoples wives in an orgy setting?....... Keep dreaming. Lol
  20. 2 points
    As a Habs fan, it's heartwarming to see Leafs and Sens fans consoling each other on an early golfing season, arguing only which team had the most disastrous year. Was it the one that was never very good from the start, or the one that gave their fans hope, only to collapse tremendously and thoroughly at year's end? All kidding aside, I applaud those who set petty rivalry aside long enough to cheer for the only team representing Canada this year. We're not going to win the cup, but let's give em hell, at least. ;)
  21. 2 points
    Hey, great pics on bac pages so I was interested too. Found conflicting adds where she goes by Jessica. also recent adds that had pics that were in an add from 2008. All big ol red flags to me. Glad to have joined Cerb and think I am going to stick here for SP.
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  23. 2 points
    I think it's perfectly fine if $5 or $10 bucks does mean a lot to a person, and that this hobby should not just be for the wealthy. A lot of folks have to spend a fair bit of time saving up for the pleasure of an encounter. But, while it's OK to be in a situation where each dollar matters, it simply makes a lot more sense to have the exact change arranged ahead of time, rather than putting the onus on the lady and assuming she'll be able to provide it, and deal with the potential awkwardness of that conversation. I mean, I certainly understand that not everyone has the same level of disposable income, but I'd just hate to turn the friendly hug goodbye moment into a situation where the lady is digging through her couch cushions trying to find a few more quarters. :)
  24. 2 points
    This was my first time with either of these two ladies. They were very welcoming and down to earth. The both of them were very friendly and respectful, while being charming and very sexy. They both worked well together to make my experience one to remember. Without going into detail, I would highly recommend either of these two ladies, and if you are up for a real challenge then have a Duo with the two of them, but beware they will wear you out with their high energy. I'm tired and going to bed now after 1.5 hours of fun with two lovely ladies.
  25. 2 points
    I've seen four different sps, and in making our initial contacts, three of them have taken longer to respond to email than I would prefer. Sometimes to the point that I (without basis) would think that they were ignoring me. Point being prompt email response is not the be all end all. To say that the lady would lose your business because of this is short sighted. As Savannah stated above, we all have our lives outside of work. One doesn't know someone else's situation, so it isn't fair to criticize. In each of my sp experiences, including those that took some time to get a response, I have been rewarded for waiting patiently for them to get back to me. And in one case, I have found a relationship that I treasure more than many in my life. I can't imagine giving that up for the sake of a few days.
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  27. 2 points
    When I first started to read this thread this morning, I grabbed my Sister and was reading it to her and I thought it was quite funny and asked her "what do I need buy now, a register or go to the bank and get rolls of loonies and toonies?". My Sister and I thought it was quite funny and knew there would be some interesting responses, I don't recall ever being asked for change in NS..... Does it make the person asking seem cheap? Yes, IMHO but if you do need it back ask and I do think it takes a big person to admit they need the change and there is no shame in that and as a quality provider you would make an effort to just look past it and move on (ya'll know you just can't book an encounter at a department store with rolled backed prices, quality paid companionship costs) or on the other hand they are just one of them cheapskate people you see on TLC, then what? you can't tell either way in most cases, give the change if you have it or give them back a 20$ to go run and get change but the onus is on them to come/have with correct amount. Provider's are not ATM's or coin dispensing machines. As we have read/heard Hobbyist's never wanted or should be treated like an ATM either.
  28. 2 points
    I just wanted to add something to what I have already said.. why would it be cheap for someone to ask for change? Not every gentleman that partakes on this life style has the same disposable income... what if for what ever reason this gentleman has a very restricted budget... and what if this gentlemen for what ever reason has no other way to have intimacy with a lady... We all have responsibilities and in a way we all have a budget for our regular day to day expenses.., and Fun expenses... some people has more than others but this does NOT make the Person CHEAP or a BAD Client... and yes what if For this person in particular the 10$ can be his bus fare to get to work.., or who knows... Yes I know that as providers (MAs or SPs) we are a luxury service... I much rather some one asks me for change than have someone barganing rates... I find trying to negociate much more insulting than asking for change... And to be honest os not that 5 or 10$ what is going to make a difference for me...
  29. 2 points
    Just popped in my head, but I wonder if those guys that ask for change back are the same type of guys that would complain if the lady is a clock watcher and he only got the time he paid for Just wondering out loud RG
  30. 2 points
    Gentlemen would be astounded by the number of men who ask for change back but in my experience it's usually for the lower priced encounters. When I worked for an agency in Atlanta, they had appointments priced at 15 minute increments. Almost without fail, the client would arrive with $20's and want the $10/$5 change. At first I would scramble to give it, sometimes counting out quarters to ensure they got it; then the agency owner clued me in that it wasn't my responsibility to ensure they have the correct change. The clients knew the agency policy and were told on the phone to arrive with the exact amount but because I was new, they took advantage of my inexperience. I remember thinking to myself while giving it to them "If you can't afford to tip me 5/10$ then you can't afford to be paying for pussy; get your priorities straight!". Some peoples children... cat
  31. 2 points
    No, never. It is embarrassing and sounds cheap to ask for change. I will rather make the effort to stop at a corner store and break it or give less tips at the end. I will not do anything to cause any uneasiness ( by asking for change) with the potential to ruin the fun.
  32. 1 point
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  35. 1 point
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  37. 1 point
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  38. 1 point
    That by far is the best comment I have read in a long time... what a great way with words.
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    Nathalie as said it well...it makes it akward to say the least..and it happened to me when i started less then a year ago...maybe 2 or 3 times..ugh. I did have the change and I gave it on 2 occasions, the 3rd one I had no change! but it felt really akward....and yes I thought to myself...hmmm why not have the correct amount!!! BJ
  42. 1 point
    Oh man, I ask for change all the time... Can you help me change out of my clothes... Shall we change positions... Should I change my technique... In fact, the best encounters leave me a very changed man, indeed! Er...but no, I haven't asked anyone if could change a twenty.
  43. 1 point
    If my service is lets say 210 and you give me 220-you are entitled to your 10$ back, but I will be offended if you ask and yes I'll think you are cheap, just being honest. It is your responsibility to have the correct amount just as it is my responsibility to have all my necessities. Tips aren't to be asked for nor expected but being gracious and gentlemanly is:)
  44. 1 point
    Never have asked for change. First I book multi hour encounters where that situation would end up working out. Second, since I plan ahead if I needed to break some money down to a five or ten I would do it before the encounter. Third, I tip, so if needing change a problem it also would balance out in the tip. And finally, for most of my encounters now, I use email money transfer so I can pay the exact amount Finally, if it is five or ten dollars, I couldn't be bothered worrying about it. My two cents (now that might be valuable with no pennies LOL) RG :-)
  45. 1 point
    Wow... Really? Clearly you took nothing from the other thread you said this on last year. You seem to think that we just answer an email, lay on our backs and make a boat load of money - that we shouldn't be so ungrateful as to not rush to answer your email as we need to respect your money and time... And yet you cannot respect our time!?? Whether a lady does this full time or part time, it's a full time job. Answering emails, maintaining ads, keeping up their web presence, texting clients, making appointment arrangements, booking hotels, booking travel, making plans, upkeeping their blog, twitter account and website, arranging for new photos, I could go on. Oh right, and in addition to all of this, she's also building and maintaining relationships with her clients... Friendship, trust, etc. Then there's the "working days" themselves. And by the way? Outside of this industry, they are REAL PEOPLE!!! Some mothers, some wives, some girlfriends, some students, all homeowners or renters who have dishes to wash, laundry to do, and meals to prepare. Never mind a little something called downtime!!! I don't think you realize for a second how mentally, emotionally and physically taxing this profession is. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade it for the world. I LOVE it. But it is not "EASY MONEY". If you want the respect of an SP, and want her to be eager to reply to your emails, try showing a little respect yourself.
  46. 1 point
    Based on the comments received so far, i'm making it official! Our next social gathering will be on June 12th!!! So mark your calanders, and more details to come on this very thread.
  47. 1 point
    I have been doing foot fetishes for over 2 years now and have even introduced the fetish to a few of my sp friends.. You know who you are lol. Once a month pedicure is an absolute requirement
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    Many of us have not worried during our first thousand but check the other erb site for a number of opinions stated about this very enjoyable practice.
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    Gentlemen... My name is Cherry. I've been in the massage industry for 5 months now, I'm loving what I do. I am 20 years young. My hair is long and Blond and my eyes are Bright Blue. I have a dark tan all over my baby soft skin with no tan lines and no tattoos. I eat right and exercise regularly which keeps me very fit and toned and flexible. My boobs are the perfect handful and you wont be able to wait to suck on my perky nipples. My bum is more than a handful and I lovvee to have it touched, massaged, spanked and crested. My Numbers.. *Height: 5"3 *Weight: 105 - 110Ibs *Feet: Size 5 - 6 *Boobs: 34B *Petite My traits.. Very outgoing, playful, sensual, erotic, naughty, classy, caring, educated, respectful, discreet and open minded. Some of the things my sessions can offer... *Showers for two *Reverse massage *Topless massage *Erotic nude massage *100% Natural Oil *Foot fetish *Outfits, Dress up (if pre-requested) *Some Fetish *Role Play/Age Play *Happy Ending I work Paradise Spa, located in the west end The most clean, classy and discreet Spa in Ottawa This week's Scheduled Wednesday April 2d 11:00am - 4:00pm Thursday April 3d 7:00pm - 11:00pm Friday April 4th 11:00am - 5:00pm To book your time with me 613-820-8887 xoxoxox
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