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A special..it's a fake ad..My fees are on my website and in my ads here Since this morning I have received a lot of texts and emails for " my special at 80/hh 160/h for newfies" I have requested the admin to remove that fake ad without any success at this time Again this is a fake ad posted by a lady..My fees on my ads here and website is what is accurate plus I would never use the word newfies Again my apologies for anyone that got mislead by that fake ad VJ

1. You don't 2. Like you want to pay for the (free) test available to everyone? how's that going to work. You understand it takes a week for results, during which time sps are seeing other clients? Or are you saying you are willing to take her out of the work place, paying for her entire week's income while you both wait for the results. And when you do get them/see them, what is the kind of services you expect now that you 'know'. Oh and, what are you doing during all this wait time?? Got your results in hand, and a guarantee of not doing or seeing anyone? 3. NO, no amount of advice on how to 'get it done' will replace my answer #2 lol 4. I hope not. It is a very manipulative thing for any client to require, and a very useless thing for an sp to present anyway (see #2) When was your last test, and what is your sexual history since then btw, and going back to #2 what kind of services are you expecting from this sp with the clean test results?

Absolutely inappropriate and insulting if you asked a lady for her test results, or if she is D&D free. Just as it would be equally inappropriate and insulting for her to ask you for your test results and if you are D&D free YOUR SEXUAL HEALTH IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY Up to you to get yourself tested But asking a lady about her test results and health status will likely end up in you being declined a date RG

I may have missed the point of this thread but I kinda thought that no one was saying there should be a forced set price that everyone had to follow just sort of suggesting that it was probably in the interest of all SP'S that rates remain high and that people don't just start under cutting each other. I don't think any set rate would ever work and there is way to many reasons why people set the rates they do to expect uniformity... i fully agree that each SP has to set their own rate but reminding oneself that the rate you set may affect others is not necessarily a bad thing either. Just my opinion.

That would be a very, very good idea. Not to set or enforce prices; but to provide support to every single provider, so that they can be informed and market-savvy and each set the highest price that works for them.

Hmmm. A visit to the doctor for blood tests every 3-6 months could potentially result in a 3-6 month backlog of people that the Health Department has to call on your behalf. This will not look good on a resume. In Vegas. England, etc. the trip to the doctor is made once a month, if not more often (I have heard of once a week). My MD is very supportive, and once a month - or less - is no problem. I personally would be very cautious about a new client demanding BBBJ's during the first few visits. It's not the only fun with your gun. I want to have a limited number of clients and let things evolve. Besides, there are some very creative and salacious activities one can enjoy with a covered cap......but that's another thread! Cheers, Ann

Lots of great advice on this thread. If you have a good, sex positive doctor then absolutely, talk to them about STI risks. Just be aware that not all doctors are sex positive and many of them are woefully misinformed about sexual health (70 years old, hasn't read a damned thing about sexual health since med school), and so your doctor might actually not be the best source of info when it comes to sexual health. I would suggest going down to Nine Circles for testing and having a chat with an STI nurse about your concerns. You an also call the Sexual Health Info Line, which is staffed by Health Educators. It's confidential and they'll answer any sexual health questions you might have. (I can't get their site to load right now, but the number can be found at ninecircles.ca) I really think there's a lot of value in talking to a sex positive health professional, in addition to doing your own reading on the internet. Because written information is usually presented in isolation, and risk are talked about in percentages or even worse, vague terms ("high"... "low"... what do those actually mean?) it can be really hard to put things in perspective and figure out how to view risks around sexual health in a reality centred way. I very often see people either dismissing risks or getting far more stressed out and fearful about them than they need to be.

:boobeyes:So yeah...naughty sites so my own fault. Got a popup that looked exactly like a legit Microsoft box. It said a program wanted to change Windows file run dot dll. Strangely it said the author was certified to be Microsoft. Good thing I did not click "Yes"!!! The window would not go away even though I clicked "No" and tried closing the box. suddenly up pops a new page...the notorious spoof police page that says your computer is now locked and you need to pay a fine of $100 to unlock it. It looks fairly official and might scare some into sending the money. Lots of police logos and Criminal Code quotes about forbidden content etc. There is no way to close the page. Your comp IS locked. I unplugged my internet connection PHYSICALLY and turned of the computer with the on/off switch. Turned on and ran every antivirus onboard, no sign of any threat. Machine is running fine now, or so it seems. Takeaway from this is: 1: if you get a popup about making changes to run dot dll immediately disconnect your machine from the net. 2: never use wifi for any dodgy sites. NEVER. If I had been using wifi I would not have been able to disconnect because the computer was locked. 3: have another comp you can use to change all your passwords to accounts. If mine is still hacked I can at least reformat. I am a bit worried that the virus might catch my passwords so will reformat. When I started up I got a box saying that the crd dot dll file could not be found, another box that the crd program could not start. These are the programs the hackers use to collect your money. So hopefully their program was not fully installed. Effin hackers. :spank:

Just to chime in here for a quick second. I normally will exchange numbers to text and book an appointment, my latest arrangements were through email only, and I can honestly say, it has been a first in the longest time. It worked out perfectly, even right to the 5 minute mark before the appointment to get proper instructions for room number etc etc. In today's world everyone has a smart phone, probably with email, so it works just as efficient as texting. I have never had an issue, furthermore, I won't get uptight if there is no response after my first sent email, as some or most ladies have other jobs/school OR that they are busy with their own life. The key is to be polite, word your words properly, and things always work out if you act like a gentleman by your first impressions.

Call me naive if you want but I would think that if there was any health issues that could be passed along to the gentleman, I would hope the lady would bring it up. The same for the gentleman visiting... If he had any issues I would hope that he let the lady know about it. STD, hepatitis etc.... I believe that we trust each other enough without having to see any health certificate or other health form.... Just saying!

I personally, as a cbj provider, a cbj advertiser, and giving a cbj on first visits, resent being asked this before, during or after a session, or even as a prelude to booking a 2nd appt, like when someone calls to see if i'm available, sets up an appt, and while on the phone might ask this. It is a clear case, to me, of carrot dangling, a lure that this guy is not going to show up or book another appt unless they get that bbbj. if you see someone who advertises cbj, and provided it in session, without the pressure of someone asking for more and possibly doing it out of concern for losing the appt, don't ever ask for more. An sp who makes exceptions will let you know. If you expect or need more than what is freely provided, just do not book the appt in the first place if you expect that her advertised restrictions are not restrictions at all.

Another tech tip for you... ALT+F4 will close the current window. Most of those pop up viruses/malware will run whether you click yes, no or the X. So don't do any of the above. Press Alt-F4 and voila. Window gone. You're welcome. Happy porn-ing!!!!

Absolutely ask! It is indeed down to scheduling: she may have other bookings or she may be able to spend more time with you. Don't know if you don't ask! :)

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Hmm, in a way I could say it also doesn't matter, but I don't think I'd mean it in the same way others have said. For me I don't have a preference between tall or short because I find each very attractive in different ways. I'm on the lean side but quite tall myself, and having a lady that actually comes close to my height is a thrill. There's something nice about not having to hunch over to enjoy a kiss, to wrap your arms around someone and feel them pressing along your whole body, and who wouldn't want a little extra leg to explore? But there's also something I find alluring about shorter ladies as well that I can't quite put my finger on. It's just a different sort of appeal but just as strong. In any event, I wouldn't say height is the prime factor in my attraction. I've found, for me, that whatever a person's body type there is invariably something (or somethings!) appealing and desirable, and each can be so much fun. And at the end of the day there's no one thing that makes a person more attractive and sexy than the right attitude (though I'm shallow enough to admit that I don't mind if that good personality happens to be matched by nice breasts... :redface:).

I had the pleasure visiting Delilah, again. The passion, lust, the erotic pleasure, that we had the first time, quickly grew into a very hot, raw session this second time around. I had a dream, a fantasy of sorts about us, I told Delilah through email, that dream,fantasy. It was played out, I kinda caught her off guard when I told her to go ahead and open some small gifts and a Easter card. My fantasy,dream had so much sexual desire, there is nothing like playing out a scene that you have in your head, and it becomes reality especially with a beautiful looking woman. Small hint, as I pushed her up against the wall, and ripped down her panties... :) I will leave the rest to your imagination, all I know is this, I will and have a smile on my face, and Im sure that it will remain for the long week-end. I look forward to our next time together as apparently Delilah has something planned for myself. ;) Thanks again Delilah, it was pure pleasure.

I was going to write something about compassion and this industry, above and beyond free market theory, and then MigthyPen said it more eloquently than I could ever do. I, too, believe compassion should be a part of this industry and our topics of discussion.

We are independent contractors. Unless you are with an agency or a pimp. Other independent contractors have similar issues with undercutting prices.. Ask anyone who works in a trade. Be it painting houses, paving driveways, building a deck... Even holistic practitioners, massage therapists, hair dressers... I'm quite sure there's no union or industry minimum for those and several other independent contractor jobs. The proposition of an industry standard is the pipe dream.. very unrealistic in my opinion. One of the best parts of my job is that I'm completely my own boss.... I do not want anyone dictating to me that I can't work for my own set price that I decide I am choosing. While I have chosen a minimum time that I will book for a client of 30 min.. I have in the past done 15 min appts. I even have had one regular who after booking his initial time for my min came back to see me several times.. but since he was a minimum wage worker and literally was in and out in one song I didn't have the heart to charge him more than $50.. In a set price model would I have to charge him more now? or do this behind the back of whomever is telling me the price I can charge? THAT right there takes away my freedom to be my own boss. No thanks!

For me, there are a couple different angles to this question. First, there are circumstances that can impact erections and ejaculation. This is more of a norm now than an anomaly. Unfortunately, it depends on the gentleman in question. For me, a session can be about far more than whether you get off or not. Again, this can depend on the gentleman. Some are here to have a great time and get off, some are in it for the connection, snuggles, kisses and the whole gamut of pleasures. If the gentleman is not comfortable with whatever issue might be happening whether medical, age, lack of sleep, stress etc. and make it about cumming, then if it is not achieved, it does make me feel less than stellar. Especially when I know they are disappointed whether it is stated or not. If the gentleman goes with the flow and is comfortable with it and it becomes about more than an orgasm, then as long as he leaves with a smile, I feel good. There are also those who know and/or push their own limits. IE: just one more. If this happens, great but again, if it becomes a case of trying too hard and not achieving then I do feel badly because they are not leaving with a smile. The bottom line is leaving and feeling good. If someone allows an orgasm to impact this then there is a chance they are not leaving happy. I am not going to delude myself that many times, the lady is blamed for that. I know there are ladies who feel they are instruments of pleasure and there to facilitate but not to be responsible for, yet in the situation, it is difficult not to be impacted by normal human emotions. Personally, if someone is comfortable in their own body and the good and bad that comes with that, whether you can or can't has no impact on my view of them. People and sex are about more than an orgasm.

One thing that really shocks me is that when I get tested every 3 months if not more if I feel there might have been a risk, I put the results of my test on the bed for a while and the gentlemen cumming at my place don't even take a look at it and put the paper aside!!!!!!!!!! Now that strucked me!!!! Anyway as some ladies R saying one day U can be cleaned and the other U catch something that will take time to show up. But SPs R definitely the cleanest ladies U can find darling! We care about our bodies very much since our profession depends on being clean to be able to work again and keep our clientèle wether it be regulars or new cummers chéri. Wishing U lots of safe fun babe!

A clean bbbj is an oxymoron. Mouths are notoriously full of all kinds of microscopic wigglies. There are many providers to choose from who offer the service; many of them will be std/sti free but you can't tell who is and who isn't. There is no "on the spot" test to see if at this moment something lurks in her throat. Christy is right, this is something you have to educate yourself on. Speak with your doctor, read the public health information and then think on the best choice for your situation. What I will suggest is that when you find the provider, don't ask "Are you clean?". It's not a good way to start off an experience. My second suggestion is that when the "Oh my God, what have I done?" wave hits you afterwards, don't contact your provider asking if you should go get tested... cat

wish I knew how to do it but Melodie's pics are more than worthy of noting as a spectacular booty. yummy and oh so tempting. Spank-a-licious

Actually there are lists like that all over the place. There's probably dozens of them just on this site! You know what would be great? If guys would READ those lists and follow them!

In my business I need/test all browsers on all platforms for web design, I prefer Firefox latest updates over any other and yes although IE has made huge improvements I can't get my head around how the designers at MS rush to push a product out to please shareholders instead of consumers. I use ESET Smart security 7 in my opinion is one of the best all-in-one virus protection software's (yearly $$ for updates) but reasonable, it even has Anti-Theft software to track a stolen laptop. I use 8.1 and with some patience I have been able to make it run like WIN7, turn off all the snazzy win8 functions and download the free classic menu app to make your start button function like win7. good luck, my 2 cents.

the problem with the minimum is that it would be set real low. too high or even average price and the less popular SPs (maybe because of a non-preferred bodytype or age or options etc) would be getting less than what they would get if they were to set their own prices to reflect actual market value. as for protecting new, clueless SPs, that's a problem of not having the information, which is why sites like this can be a good source of info. it would be like starting a business without knowing what to do - not very prudent. if you set up some body that would act as an information provider, it would be hard to access every newbie out there due to the nature of the business

I've been reading this thread closely and, while the discussion has been frank, sometimes blunt, and there are strong and conflicting opinions, it's been pretty civil. It's been valuable to me to read these different yet honest views of real, live women who do sex work for a living and each know what they're talking about. Although I can see how this might make some people (especially consumers) uncomfortable, I disagree that the discussion is un-CERB-y. A thread whose premise was "Sally X is charging way too little! Let's confront her!" would be bad. A general thread about "hey, how are prices set? How should they be set?" strikes me as smack-bang on topic for the board -- provided it's civil. I think as long as there are informed and respectful viewpoints to share, those inclined to contribute something meaningful should be allowed to do so. For my part: I don't know anything about the experience of being a sex worker so I only have vague concepts to go on. My uninformed feeling is that "enforcement" of prices is bad in principle for a bunch of reasons. But... what about a hypothetical voluntary sex workers' association that reaches out to SPs, invites them to work with their fellow providers, and keeps newbies informed about their options in the business? One that just invites everyone to cooperate to help maximize revenue from a very human and intimate service? I'd be cool with that. It would have problems and failings of its own, but it would have a lot of human merit, too. Open, free markets are sometimes efficient... but they're never, ever wise or compassionate, and some of that is necessary too.

I think a more important question is: how would the mandatory minimum be enforced? It's a scary thought. I do echo Kathryn's concerns, as well.

Hey everyone! I've been lurking under a different name for a few years now, but finally decided to get more... involved. I'd post my own "hey I'm new" thread rather than responding here, but ... I gotta admit, I'm a bit shy! I gotta shake that off soon. :)

Thank you for this response! I could not agree more with all you have said.

Personally, I'd prefer to see a client who chooses the ladies he sees because his interest was piqued by them and not based on the cheapest price. I've been asked more times than I care to count if I'd lower my rate or if I offer specials/discounts for this or that. I understand quite well that money is often tight for most people but if you can't afford a lady's requested donation, either save up until you can, opt for less time or shop for a more economical encounter. While undercutting can have an affect on other ladies (myself included), the positive side is that it creates options for hobbyists who can't afford the higher priced SPs. There is a silver lining in every shit storm ladies and gents. You just have to look for it. :-)

At the end of the day, if a client doesn't like a lady's preferred method of communication, or response times, they should simply move on. There are lots of providers, and lots of different business models. If a lady has a particular model, and it works for her, well that really is the end of it. I assume if it wasn't working for her, she would change it. Porthos

You can't look at this business as a by-the-hour salary. We don't work eight hours a day, five days a week. The time and money that goes into replying to message boards, replying to emails, posting ads, taking phone calls, self-care/hygiene, photo shoots, the cost of maintaining an incall or transportation to outcalls, website upkeep, travel costs for touring etc. eats into that "per hour" figure as well. This business also ebbs and flows, and there are downtimes that balance out busy periods. We don't have sick time or vacation pay. Yes, this can be a very touchy subject, especially when there are assumptions made. Additional Comments: 1. They're not "selling themselves". We sell a service, not our bodies. Let's not use the same language abolitionist groups use when creating moral panic and conflating human trafficking with sex work. 2. "Too cheap" -- according to whom? There are many reasons why someone chooses to set their rates at what they are, and quite honestly, it's not up to us to judge. There is no regulatory board that oversees our industry. To some people, my rates can be "too high" or "too low". To that, I say that is none of your business. It's MY business. My rates have increased since I started in this business, as I figured out what my expenses were and how often I wanted to work. They are at a price-point which allows me to see the clients I want to see while maintaining a modest lifestyle and going to school. It has afforded me some opportunities I wouldn't ordinarily have, like buying my first car, but at the same time, I don't feel I am living an extravagant lifestyle (it was a great deal on a used car). There is always going to be someone with lower rates or higher rates than you. That is how this business, and all businesses work. Stop looking at other providers and comparing yourself to them; concentrate on your own self. It's not a matter of "s/he's stealing clients from me", IMHO, but rather "what am *I* doing to attract and retain clients?" 3. Let's not make assumptions about what a "lower" price-point implies, especially when it's making potentially stigmatizing and dangerous statements about having a pimp or drug addiction. We don't know their situation. I'm honestly quite surprised that this thread is still going on, just as I was surprised to see in another thread a provider pose the question of someone she had never met being underage. Statements like the ones in this thread have the possibility of impacting someone else's business and well-being, and not in a good way.

I agree with Ann Gallerie on this, PayPal utilizes user fees plus a transaction fee, therefore 1) a reason I don't use it, and 2) PayPal won't let anyone use their services if it is adult based (such as this). I took the time to set up an actual merchant account, and I have a 'register terminal' directly on my phone, just like restaurants that have mobile transaction machines. I can swipe your card directly on my phone, and you sign directly on my phone screen. I do prefer to use this method for booking to take deposits, but I can also take debit cards, and there is always the trusted interac services which are highly popular. Having a gentleman utilize this booking method ensures his time is committed to by me, and that he is dedicated to actually showing up. We all know there are some unscrupulous ones out there that love to 'book' and don't show. I find this a great way to offer more choice to gentlemen, yes there is a paper trail, just like any other transactions, but there are ways to remedy this. My transactions are set up with sku codes and detailed information that makes sense if an SO happens to check the CC bills. If a gentleman is unsure if he wants to use a CC, I offer debit, interac transfer, but there is always the great standby of cash. I do pay a small fee for having this convenience, but to me it's worth it. I also pay taxes on all the income, but I do get advantages from that also. The choice is always up to the gentleman, but having the ability to give a choice of method of payment to him is awesome.

I spent some very, very sexy time with Sofia last night. Sensuous touch, fantastic massage combined with smooth & soft skin made for an amazing hour. The time went by so fast, I definitely did not want it to end. Sofia is a beautiful, tall and smart Spanish beauty.

Regarding the label of cheap... If you went to a restaurant with friends and your bill came out to 36 dollars. If you handed two 20's and sat at the table waiting for your server to get you your two toonies every one of your friends would call you cheap, regardless of what you needed those toonies for. Your server would be standing there with an internal monologue of what did i do to upset this person, or wow this guys is cheap. The question isn't whether you need to pay more or whether anyone can question how you spend your money. If you don't want to pay that extra 5 or 10 then dont give it to her in the first place. Society is full of judgements and expectations, and this would qualify as cheap in most service industries. If you don't want to or cant afford to tip then take the extra diligence to not draw attention to the payment process.

Point taken. I myself used the term 'mortified' in my post. However, that wasn't based on my own judgment of people necessarily, but rather, my own discomfort at having to discuss finances explicitly with clients when we are face-to-face. I have no right to judge anyone. Conversely, many clients do try to get 'deals', or cheaper appointments if they are having financial difficulties. Unfortunately, I can't take responsibility if one of my clients can't afford to see me... It's hard not to get judgmental in this industry when I think of someone asking for change. As others have said, I do think it's the responsibility of the client him or herself to insure they have the appropriate amount. It has never happened to me (thank goodness) and I'm sure I would handle the situation gracefully. But I would be lying if I said it wouldn't throw me off. I'm just being completely honest here. Nat xox Additional Comments: Totally agree re: the labels! I need to park my judgment!

Of course they do. It is definitely a case-by-case basis. I also have clients with disabilities (both visible and invisible) and their disposable income is limited. Some of my clients save for upwards of a year to be able to afford to come and see me. Never has one of these clients asked for change, or come unprepared for our meeting. In fact, there is quite a lot of preparation that goes into these encounters (both on my part, and on the part of my client). I'm sorry you feel a lot of the generalizations in this thread are judgmental and unkind. I can definitely see how that could come across but I don't agree that the judgments are necessarily negative. Feeling uncomfortable in these situations is a very real feeling, and we all have knee-jerk reactions to the intersections of intimacy and money which may or may not be rational. Of course, if I knew one of my clients was in dire financial situations I would not judge him or her for asking for their $10. I would, however, take offense to someone who was not in dire financial need who did the same. These are all case-by-case situations, of course, and the OPs initial question was, after all, asking for a general idea of what peoples reactions would be (not specifics). I think Porthos' post gets at the core of the issue quite well, and so I won't repeat it.

I would be slightly mortified if someone asked me for change for a multitude of reasons. Not because it's wrong per se, but mainly because 1) I probably wouldn't have any change to offer 2) it brings finances to the forefront of the encounter which isn't desirable and 3) it would be awkward. I have to admit that I would judge someone who asked. It would seem cheap. I also agree that it's the responsibility of the gentlemen (or woman, or couple) in question to have the appropriate amount... Cool thoughts for a Sunday morning. It's really unfortunate how professionalizing the experience makes it less desirable somehow. I wonder what the world would look like if we could ask for change like this and NOT have it be awkward or somehow 'cheap'. Again, it's the whole intersection of money and intimacy that makes all of this complicated, eh?

I will just clarify my rep comment for PP's post: get yourself tested before you see any sps. You could be a carrier, and if you go to see one of these mythical unicorn's called the 'std free guarantee card holding sp" don't be the guy who transmits something to her because you spent so much time searching for her you couldn't be bothered to check yourself out first. The first guy with an untreated std who walks in to see one of these sps (who provides those bbbjs) is putting her at risk. You can decide if he came to see her an hour before you did, a week, or an hour or a week after you did. You can decide if you were the one leaving her with an std, and gave it to him because you didn't get yourself checked out first. :D

Cleaner than the rest? No one is going to show anyone health records and realistically after having a clean test the next one might not be and in that time a man might have been with 4-6-10 girls, so how would he know which one was guilty? As Lee Richards said maintain your own health, learn all you need to know and play as safe as you see fit, or don't play at all. Life is full of risks, you'll never be 100% assured of anything other than you're going to die at some point and your taxes are due by end of April yearly;), lol.

It's not an issue of supply and demand, that is a mistake that far too many people make in this business. Supply and demand would apply if we were selling widgets but we are not, we are far more comparable to knowledge workers, this business is all about the individual provider, their particular skill set, 'value added services' and of course relationship selling. Almost every lady has a different business and profit model, see three different ladies and you'll discover three different areas they focus their attention as well as different plans for success. Clients select ladies based on their individual needs and interests, cost is actually a very small factor compared to value. Yes there is a limit to what any individual client will spend but you only have to look at the various business models to know that there are clients in all price ranges and certainly enough to keep any one individual in a price bracket busy. If you feel like you are being undercut then you need to evaluate your own business, see what is comparable in your particular market segment and what sets you apart and focus on that. If you compare yourself to businesses outside of your market then you will always feel like you are on the losing end simply because it's not your market and not your business model. As always I'll use myself as an example, if I compare myself to ladies with rates less than my own I often notice they have a larger client base, work more frequently and have less overhead. There are also a huge number of clients that will see them and will not see me, some because they see no value in the particular date I offer and others because my consideration is simply out of their price range. If I compared my own business to these ladies I would appear to come up lacking in several specific areas, this does not however mean that I am not successful or running an effective business. If I compare myself to the ladies that charge more than I do I find that often they are travelling more (by request) and have a smaller but more loyal client base. Depending on their individual model often their overhead is a little higher and they tend to require far more flexibility in their personal lives - something I do not have. So again on a one to one comparison of any particular area I appear come up lacking but that doesn't take the entire business model into account. What truly matters is does my model work for me? I have enough clients that I am happy, my current model integrates well with my 'outside life' and it allows me both the freedom to pursue other interests without compromising on the things that are important to me when going in to an individual date. You have to compare with other ladies that are in your market, evaluate how your business is working for you and if there are areas you need to improve on. There is always some cross-over in clientele, some people will see me, you and another lady with a consideration that is either higher or lower than ours or perhaps simply has a longer (or shorter) date minimum. That part of the market isn't nearly as big as the people that 'shop' within a particular interest or business model and it's those clients that you focus on, the others will come and go anyway and you generally won't build a loyal clientele out of them.

I think it's up to everyone to set their own rates. It's a personal decision, and one based on a lot of factors that we might not necessarily know about. "Do 'they' even know the cost of living in Canada?" I'm assuming you're talking about recent immigrants of migrant laborers? I'm sure they do know the cost of living here, but need to make a certain amount of money to make ends meet. I have no idea, we aren't walking in their shoes after all... Ultimately we can't judge. We don't know anything about their lives or what determined their rates, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with self-respect or fairplay either... it's just people trying to make a living in ways they see fit. These things have a tendency of working themselves out. I'm really sorry it's making life difficult for you, Eve. I think that the really good clients, clients who are respectful and kind, will continue to see the ladies they want, regardless of the cost. I don't think it will drive your prices down at all. People are always transitioning in and out of the industry... Those that stick around (like you) and have good reputations (like you) will be successful in the long run. We need to hold our judgment and be in solidarity with one another. It's a tough industry! Just my two cents, Nat xox

It can be frustrating but I have booked many appts by text and they liked the way I sounded through that conversation. They booked right away and then I made sure they called to confirm. Sometimes people want to have a sense of who the SP through a real life back and forth exchange. Same thing by talking on the phone. I would say it takes about 5 texts to securely book an appt. I've had people ask where I'm located. I tell them and then they say it's too far. It was in the title of the ad!! That is a clear cut case of when an SP gets annoyed. Then they try to make you feel guilty about it. lol. With those types of guys, I cut them off quick. I don't like email exchanges and never have. To me, it's a waste of time because ultimately I'm going to need to speak to them by phone. At least with texting, it's real time and don't have to wait around for a response. Most texters text because they want a quick response which is what I offer. I don't mind answering questions but if the exchange seems never ending is when I tend to get annoyed. One person said to me the other day that they love to chat. I told them that's great but I only text to book appts and if they're interested, great but I don't have time to chat all day. I have to do it in a diplomatic way instead of not sounding rude even if I want to rip my hair out at the time. lol. He got the message. You can tell within a matter of minutes when someone begins to be a pain in the ass. I try to give as much info up front with a standard text I have saved in my phone. If it's one liners one after another with "Do you do this?" Next text, "Do you do that?". It's all included in that standard text and if they start up with that, I tell them I have to go. In fact, answering questions and giving info is a large part of my daily routine as long as the conversation is on the straight and narrow. It it diverts into an attempt for sexting then I cut them off. Texting pretty much takes up a lot of my time other than seeing clients but I don't mind because I'm building a rapport with people and when you are selling your services, people begin to form their opinion of you. So how you come off sounding is very important.

Good Morning everyone and welcome to CERB. It is what you make out of it which means there are a lot of great people here to chat with and be friendly and learn plus a lot of sexy ladies to communicate with and explore. Any questions, feel free to ask in a new post, a thread already going or even a PM to another member. Most are happy to help. You can post and advertise in shout box however you have to have 5 posts before doing so. Wonderful to have new voices on board. Enjoy your experience!! :boobies:

I'm up front about my height, and, it has never really been an issue. If anything, being somewhat taller seems to bring novel advantages...Given that I almost always greet my clients at the door in 3.5 or 4 inch heels, which bring me to around 6 feet tall, if there have been any comments about my height, it is usually about how turned on these gents feel by my stature....and likely all the much closer my breasts come to their face ;P ...and that goes for clients I have had of all heights. Here and there, I've had a client express relief at my eventually removing my heels, which is also sweet. Recently I did an outcall to visit a gent at his hotel who was around 5 foot 6. at the end of our session, he remarked that, even though he knew he'd be receiving a tallish woman at his door, he found himself astounded at the feeling of my stature in front of him...as he put it, a bit intimidated, but at the same time exhilarated. I adore and can be turned on by men of all heights...and shapes and sizes for that matter.

It's the first day of kindergarten and the teacher decides to do taste association. I'll blindfold you and give you a lifesaver and you tell me what flavor it is, she tells the children. So she gives them all a cherry flavour and says What flavor is that? The whole class answers Mmmm that's cherry. Very good the teacher replies. So she gives them all a grape and they reply Mmm that's grape. Very good she says again. Then she gives them all a honey flavor. The whole class sits perplexed by the strange taste, so the teacher says OK I'll give you a hint it's something your mom might call your dad. Billy spits his out on the floor and yells Spit 'em out everyone they're ASSHOLES!'