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6 pointsKeep records of all of his attempts to contact you. Keep all emails. Keep a telephone log. Keep your telephone bills. Take pictures if he shows up at your place. Document and record. The police will need the evidence.
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5 pointsI voted Classy with face. I would also go for classy with no face. I do NOT like super professional photos that look like they were from a Playboy shoot. Not many ladies are going to look as good as they do in a studio with a stylist and makeup artist fussing over them. It creates an unrealistic expectation. I like photos that give me an honest representation of what I will be getting.
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4 pointsI don't think anyone hates your guts. I don't. I will say, I did find your posts off topic and needlessly insulting. My response was in irritation/jest and an attempt to show you that opinions on what is considered "quality" varies widely. Sweeping generalizations tend to annoy people, simple as that. I think referring to women as "8's or 10's", won't ever get you the response you're hoping for. Most importantly, alluding to "sex workers" uglying up the joint, on an escort rec board doesn't seem like the best idea, no? Don't take it personally, and I'll try and do the same. ;) Happy Easter, Kim
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4 pointsIt's not just what they write in threads/ ads it is how they conduct their first introduction through email/text/ pm....I'm intrigued by their beauty but also by their brains and how they can communicate with myself. It isn't always just about the ads, there is much more to learn,get to know about women through discussions.
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3 pointsFavourite spot - underneath a woman. lol okay I know that really isn't the question haha
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3 pointsI'm including a couple things that fit my vision of a soul mate. For me, it's not just about love, it's about friendship. It's that instant recognition of someone even if you can't explain it. Being open to those feelings even if you have no clue, knowing that it's important and worth a risk. I don't believe soul mates are forever. Some are but some come into your life to show you something or to get you through a difficult time and then your paths part. They will always remain a very important part of your life but not long term. Either way, they are very good for you if you're open to them. I have been lucky enough to have experienced this first hand.
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3 pointsFav place...hmmmm...I have a few lol... I must say I love doing dirty things in a car...I know I know its not the best place or the most comfortabe one but just to think someone can be watching its a big turn on for me lol (i did lots of that years ago with SO and casual flings hehe) Outdoor on a beach is another place I love...I would make sure not to get sand all over my pussy or his cock ;) Start the foreplay sitting on a couch in a living room with wine...end up on the floor( if there is a fireplace even better)...and retreive to a big nice comfy king size bed...there is nothing like lots of comfy room to try mulyiple positions! BJ xxx
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3 pointsI had a little chat with your stalker Christy, he says he's not a stalker, it's just coincidence that he's moved into the tree next to your bedroom window...;)
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3 pointsAs Meg says, Stop seeing him, as Valerie says, record everything. Keep dates, exact times of sightings and if you can alert neighbours or someone you trust to keep their eye out and to report when they see him near you or your home/neighbourhood/property. Records are needed to have anything done by police and the courts. I had dealt with someone over a 6yr period following my every move, calling me, even moving underneath me in an apartment building. My stalker knew the law well and the boundaries to which he could push. Walking by your place for example on a public sidewalk daily even many times a day is legal. But with due diligence, recording these events, with witnesses statements you should be able to get a judge and police to act in your favor should you need a restraining order or if you feel your privacy and well being is threatented. I'm sorry you are experiencing this.
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3 pointsStop seeing him would be #1. Next, do not engage..never respond to any communications. If all of that fails....restraining order!
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2 pointsWhat is your definition and do you believe they exist? apparently the link below describes ten elements that defines a soulmate. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-carmen-harra/elements-of-a-soulmate_b_3595992.html
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2 pointsI like to entertain SP's in my home. I find it a lot less stressful for me. I serve tea or coffee and a lite snack. We chat for a bit before having some playtime. Then we socialize some more before she has to leaves. This is always a two hour session so there is little or no pressure of a clock.
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2 pointsSo many "interesting" comments and speculations made in this thread... If this keeps up, it will be that time again:
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2 pointsI like variety, so I my perfect place would be an encounter that combines several. Maybe start off with some sensual and erotic touching in the bath...then move in front of the fireplace and continue to play until we're dried off before moving to the bedroom. Since we're talking perfect, let's pretend the bedroom has a semi-private balcony overlooking the city where we stand on and gaze out as we play. I figure it's so hard to pick just one spot - so why try?! :)
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2 pointsI'm old enough to remember drive ins, what a hot time they were, I guess still are in a couple of places here in NS and one in PEI. Have also enjoyed a nautical theme over the years, on ferries, Her Majesty's Canadian Warships and regular boats - never on a canoe though!!
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2 pointsI believe that this is possible. I knew a wonderful lady many years ago. We connected on most (if not all) of those levels described by Dr. Carmen Harra. We even knew when the other was nearby without actually seeing each other. That was the most happiest time of my life. :) I have never experienced that kind of connection with any other woman since. :( Thank you for this post Cristy. It took me back to many very fond memories.
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2 pointsI got info from a very reliable source that she is a post op shemale, went by the name Paris before. I'm not judging or anything , but that info should be out there.
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2 pointsHere are some very talented Ladies: Natalie Lefabre, stunning (having a brain cramp with the spelling of her last name!!!) downtown, great spot Salina, @ Paradise Tylor @ Angels Touch Robyn @ Angels Erin, outstanding , new place in the west end Lexi @ Angels Jamie @ Paradise
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2 pointsI'm 54 so I have visited strip clubs in various city's around Canada for about 35 years.... have the changed... of course they have... like all businesses they gave adjusted their service offering to reflect the environment in which they operate. I delighted to see that I no longer go into clubs and see ladies required to wear pasties as full nudity was not allowed or that if you wanted a private dance you could not drink in the same room.... things change and people will see positives and negatives to the changes.... for the ladies who preferred no contact the move to it being the norm was seen as a negative while others saw it as a great way to bump up their revenue. one think I have missed at the clubs as they gave moved to more lapdance/contact venues us the amazing dance shows some of there ladies were able to do. As for the beauty of the ladies at the clubs then vs now.....all I can say is I have never had a problem finding a beautiful lady at the clubs. 30 years ago there was no tattoos and no body jewelry... hair styles were different.... people dressed differently...hey but before we judge.... go back and look at some pictures of yourself from the past what we think is sexy changes with time and in my opinion that is not a bad thing..... would I get a tattoo or piercing. lol... most likely not... have I met some amazing sexy beautiful women who have YES. In my opinion anything that makes a lady feel sexy about herself is ok with me. Bottom line... i can't go back to the past so the things I miss about then will remain as fond memories... there are however so many new fond memories to make. Just my opinion.
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2 pointsI'm not sure I have a favorite place but I have always thought it would be nice to Meet a beautiful lady at a really good restaurant for a meal.... it would be one of those times where you just know from looking at each other that you have to fuck...at some point during the meal she excuses herself to go to the washroom and as she walks around behind me she leads down kisses my neck and tells me she is not wearing any panties. I follow her to the washroom approach her from behind place one arm around her and push her up against the wall lift her dress over her beautiful ass and take her from behind....... after we return to the table.
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2 pointsI think you started the problem yourself, with your initial overblown absolutist statements. You didn't state why you thought one era's girls were hotter, and then claimed the current era girls looked like they were "sex workers" as if that was a bad thing. Quite obviously they are sex workers, that's by definition, and even the girls from the era you long for were also sex workers. So you showed yourself in extremely bad form: arrogance and snobbery. Only later did we find out that the reason you thought they were unattractive was because of tattoos and piercings. And even later we find out that you thought the girls from the 90's also had problems, such as rock hard fake boobs. If you start off with absolutist statements, expect absolutist statements back as responses. Additional Comments: The real reason the clubs are in bad shape is because of the Internet and porn. Why spend money on a girl you can't touch, when you can view her for free online? I think non-interactive stripclubs may well be on the downfall, and they are going to have to adapt to a new reality. It's actually happening right now, the interactivity rules are being relaxed everywhere unofficially. The stripclub replaced the topless bars of the 60's, and it wasn't as if the topless bars were closed, they just became the stripclubs, so it was an adaptation for a newer era. Now an even newer adaptation needs to be made.
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2 pointsHere's the link that Roamingguy referred to (I think): http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66258&highlight=stalker Good luck!
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2 pointsNone of the above. Smart women, as demonstrated by what they write on here and how they write.
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2 pointsGetting a email this afternoon from a good friend, and it really makes your day,makes you smile. Every year for the past 4 years having lost my mother, and also have had lost my father years ago, days like Easter,Christmas,Thanksgiving, become a littler easier to handle with their passing, but they will always will be in my heart. But getting a email today just was icing on the cake for this Easter Day. That special friend, will indeed always remain a dear friend through the expression of thoughts, words, that can make me smile. So it was a highlight of my day.
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2 pointsThat's pretty decent of you tolerating ladies who have breast implants. I wonder what the ladies have to tolerate RG
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2 pointsHmmm, kinda wondering how this thread got from opening a brothel and prostitution laws to personal body preferences.LOL
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2 pointsOkay guys.. Cause we all know the late 80's - early 90's were the golden age of beauty.. :icon_confused: ** Take note ladies: tan lines, rock in a sock boob jobs, big sprayed out crispy mullets, cocaine mustaches & the sultry sounds of - White Snake.. Are the standard we are no longer living up to...lol Kim :icon_wink:
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2 pointsA switch is a person who has both dominant/submissive qualities or can be a top/bottom depending on who they happen to be with. It is a BDsM term and used mostly in a sexual capacity. Hope this clears up some of the confusion.
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2 pointsThat's funny, you make it sound like a principled decision. The reality is, social conservatism is the ticket to a political grave in this country. Harper knows that, which is why he muzzled them as soon as he took over the party. Start talking about abortion or same sex marriage and watch the seats vanish before you can say "Stockwell Day". This issue isn't even remotely the same. You're completely mistaking support for decriminalization as a lesser evil solution for social acceptance of prostitution. People may not believe sex work should be illegal, but johns are universally despised. No one is going to go to the mat to defend our right to pay women for sex, and no one is going to care if we end up in jail for doing so. No one except for the sex workers themselves, the people the Nordic model considers to be our victims. Quite ironic, really.
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2 pointsI love dirty talk no matter the format. I will say that since starting out as an SP my written dirty talk has increased while my verbal has decreased. I know part of the reason is that when I am with someone who is not very verbal or vocal, I restrain myself. I know there have been times it has been requested of me and the person had been so quiet that I had forgotten until halfway through. The more open someone is to me, the more comfortable I feel being expressive about needs, wants and desires. I feed off others so there is a lot of giving and receiving. It IS rather difficult to talk with my mouth full however you can be almost guaranteed that as I worship you I have thoughts running through my head about the taste and hard silkiness of your cock gliding over my tongue, forcing it's way into my throat and making me moan in need. And when you react to me with words or noises I'm panting in my mind for the reactions I'm causing and my lady bits are throbbing in anticipation.
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2 pointsI don't think that there is too much to add to what's been said. I understand your concern for safety, I really do. However you need to understand that (sorry to say) my safety is more important. The good need is that this means I do everything possible to keep myself safe, keeping you safe in the process. Ladies in this profession are usually more on too of their sexual health than anyone else. Tests, condoms, education - we stay on top of it (pun intended) When you go to a bar do you ask for test results? Exactly. Guess which scenario is more risky. Keep yourself safe :)
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2 pointsThere's alot of garbage being layered onto certain sex workers in the industry. There's a dichotomy between the image of the put together worker, self-assured, autonomous, and in control...no mental health or self-esteem issues...acting as her own woman, strong as hell. And, then there's the worker with no business skills, not knowing her worth, with low self-esteem, willing to do God knows what with her body....drugged out, controlled by a pimp, and needing to be managed for her own good. Or, left to her own devices while the rest of "us" supposedly figure out what is 'truly' of benefit to our industry overall. And, then, there's statements being made about who has seen more of the 'exploited', 'messed-up', unfortunate 'ignorant' types', and how that allows one to make potentially more insightful judgement calls about the need to minimum pricing and regulatory measures....and the right to construct prostitute typologies I might add. The dichotomy (between the healthy, competent and knowing sex worker, and the screwed up, pimped druggie with no economic sense) and the prostitute typologizing are what I want to bite into here. And, I'll use personal narrative to illustrate some of these aspects, but keeping in mind the broader connections between our lives...that all of the pieces do not have to match up perfectly to provide insight....that personal stories can be applied in such a manner as to not blanket or overgeneralize a discussion, or over-personalize a debate to the point where discussion becomes impossible. These are the things I have in mind as I share. I started in this industry at 17 years old. The choices, as I experienced them, were tough and few and I was highly motivated to get out of poverty and an abusive living environment, which was obviously distressing. Within a year I found a decent agency manager to work for. I had very little business knowledge to start with: what to charge?, what was a fair cut to give to a manager?, what services to provide?, what services was I comfortable with providing?....how might my financial needs and motivations, my life immediate circumstances, trump some of these considerations over others? ...and, believe me, sometimes I have made choices that have left me feeling like shit....sometimes the choices didn't feel like fair choices....sometimes, I was layering on self-judgement that didn't need to be there about the choices...hmmm, I wonder where all of that judgement comes from? My earlier years in the industry allowed me to observe my manager and all of the tasks she carried out to run a business, many of which I was too busy to want to do myself, some of which I lacked the social and economic capital and personal organization to do, and others aspects I just needed time to think on if ever I wanted to become an independent (screening clients etc.). I experienced the work as exhausting, frustrating and stigmatizing at times, but also as stimulating and fun (always meeting new people, sharing stories, learning about the psychology of sex), and flexible in terms of how portable the work is, and being able to make larger amounts of money in shorter periods of time. In a relatively small Northern Ontario community, I gave a third of every hourly fee I made to my manager. At the time, the going rate for a bustling and established escort agency was $150 an hour. After I paid my agency fee, and my taxi fare (it was all outcall based), and based on the example of a one hour date, my take away without any other expenses considered (condoms, clothing, grooming etc.) was about $80. This is considerably less than I command now as someone who works independently, in another region, and a decade later. But, I was more than ok with those terms...accepted them and they worked just fine for me, and were highly preferable relative to the other work that was available to me at the time. Thinking back to that situation, if I could have finagled low overhead and the right incall setup, I could have charged $80 an hour and made out just as well or better (think no travel time to appointments), but goodness knows then I would have been labeled by others in the industry as a 'low end' ignoramus. Interesting. Long story short, sex work arose as a highly constrained AND also an ideal and flexible economic option for me. It took time, opportunities to connect with other workers, and reading related literature (not easy to find at the time) for me to begin to make sense of things....to carve out various options for myself, to politicize what it means to be a sex worker, and to challenge my own internalized assumptions about 'whores', while also challenging dominant social ideas about sex workers, both demonizing and infantilizing. The learning curve has been steep and complex. And, my life options, my formal education, my business savvy, my self-awareness, and my sexual development have evolved. Having made a foray back into the industry several months ago (after a long pause away, but still engaging in related activism all the while), I find myself in a different phase as a sexual labourer. I work for myself, set my own rates, and screen my own clients, and, over time, I've had more opportunities to become a part of the sex working community, to fight for our rights, and to benefit from the rich relationships it holds I also take time to remember the whole journey, the teenager that was me, and I have had moments where I've been struck by her ingenuity. Whatever I lacked in business or economic smarts, I made up for in volumes with the savvy that can only come with street smarts...off the cuff, quick thinking, and tremendous resourcefulness. Few people would take the time to fascinate over the narrative of socially and economically marginalized woman if she is working for pennies at the local Tim Horton's....with a Manager on her all the time like a fire breathing dragon...thankless customers, running her ass off, barely covering the rent, leaving little or no time for her to pursue, or dream about other life options. And, few would make so many qualifying remarks if she struggled in her sense of self, maybe even struggling with depression, or an intimate partner who abuses her physically, financially. Why? Because we gloss over that kind of marginalization: cuz she's working for the man, towing the line of normalcy....her purported "dysfunction" is a familiar, benign kind. [And, yes, I am gesturing at the role of internalized whore stigma in this thread masquerading as disinterested concern and professional rhetoric over industry standards.] So, why is it acceptable to make all kinds of qualifying remarks about sex workers who may charge less than others?....who may be following a business model that makes sense for them?...who may be working for a manager who takes a cut, maybe even an unfair cut of their earnings?...who may struggle in his or her sense of self. What about the role of decrim?...about upholding the legal rights of sex workers to switch managers or leave the industry without fear of retribution (providing legal recourse and a climate of social support for him/her to do so)....just one of a number of examples where we can make changes without fixating on the pathology of individual choice, or lack thereof. What about we make space for the understanding that there will always be sex workers who will never fit into the mould of the happy, healthy hooker, and to count these members of our community in as equally insightful and valuable. It's not too hard, considering that some of the biggest leaders in the sex workers rights movement are people who have been street involved, who are or who have been drug users, and, yes, trauma survivors. A number of these people, all women, are some of my closest friends and confidants. We do not all identity with the same struggles, with the same privileges and oppressions, or industry experiences, but we see each other as equals and colleagues nonetheless. It's also been mentioned that there are workers who really aren't wanting to do the work but have few other options. Let's fight for those increased options....while also recognizing that there are plenty of folks in the mainstream workforce who hate their shitty jobs, don't know how else they will pay their bills, and can't seem to get their foot in the door what with all of the nepotism out there. Let's advocate for their increased options too eh? When we dichotomize and qualify sex worker identity in the manner I've seen happen in this thread, there is tremendous erasure that occurs; erasure of the parts of ourselves, our private moments which are deemed unsavory, shameful, desperate; erasure of the ongoing vulnerabilities we experience in the industry(, because regardless of what we charge or where we work, we all experience a level of vulnerability); and erasure of the contributions of fellow sex workers who have and continue to fight for our rights. I love being a sex worker, and I see the work as skilled and honorable work (as my vocation), yet, sometimes, I still am left feeling like shit...sometimes I feel confused. I carry all of my life history with me, beautiful and ugly. But, hey, don't we all? Isn't this ok? What happens when, for some of us, it is not ok? ...what then is the role of totalizing statements about certain people's lives, their work?....does it not function as a mechanism for distancing?...for asserting a sense of personal entitlement and relative legitimacy? what happens when we resemble a stereotype?....what happens when we face the pain of resembling a stereotype? ...what happens to us when the person who resembles the stereotypes is held in our minds eye as a respected colleague?. Hmmm, what then?
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1 pointHi lovely, Tess and I are sending you our love, big hugs and deep kisses. I smile when I think of you. Kay
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1 pointIm ready to show you what erotic fantasies are made of. Looking for a unforgetable Hot, DDD experiance? Cum visit me today from 3-11pm tonight. available in the west end in a upscale spa. private showers,hot tub fun and much more.call me (613) 265-2505
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1 pointI've been hanging in strip clubs for decades and I just love the way things are today, sure, I kinda miss the tan lines and "gatino girl" look of the eighties dancers, but today we have exotic girls from all around the world to admire. And a girl does not have to look like a '10' for me to be attracted to her, she may have charm, wit, style,intelligence and so on..... Who am I to complain anyways ? I have been treated like a KING in these places and done nothiing to deserve it. I'm so grateful to all the dancers and staff who've made my life so much happier all this time.
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1 pointYou are invited... Come join me on a sensual adventure for 2 Who: You and me, your erotic companion What: A seduction Experience like no other When: Tuesday April 22 9 - 4 Where: Club CMJ West Why: Ill show you in person! RSVP via PM or call 613-523-6199
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1 pointI'm first influenced by the gallery, if the body type matches my liking, then it is the ad or the about me page. I'd like to be able to get a good description of what our time together will be like. I was deliberately vague because my "liking" changes now and then and I like variety. Oh yah, almost forgot it must be affordable and reasonable based on the description of our time together and the market rate. Long way of saying that everything on the website is important to me and its the overall package.
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1 pointI'm relatively new to this lifestyle although I did go to a few strip clubs in my younger days. But something I have observed in this lifestyle is ladies with tattoos and piercings, mind you I have observed this on ladies who are "civilian" for lack of a better word as well My point, and I have met some lady's with tattoos and piercings, is that those tattoos and piercings compliment a lady's beauty. It doesn't detract. Just because you aren't into tattoos and piercings is just a matter of personal taste. It shouldn't be viewed as a fact that there has been a decline since the 80's. Frankly I haven't seen a decline in beauty at all. And there are some of us gentlemen who see tattoos and piercings as complimenting a lady's beauty. An Easter rambling RG
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1 pointWell a suggestion, Savannah Lane tours to Nova Scotia and Lexy Grace is in Halifax. Just judging from their posts you have two ladies you could contact. And, while perusing websites, if there is a lady comfortable doing MFF ménage a trois, or seeing married couples then she may also be receptive to seeing a female client. Just let the companion know when you first contact her that you are a lady. Finally, after your encounter write a recommendation, I'm sure the lady would appreciate it A rambling from a guy RG
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1 pointQuestion for all you wonderful CERB ladies..... What do you think when you have a session with a client and he does not Cum. I am asking this because while I partake fairly often in this hobby and have met a number of wonderful CERB ladies who have provided me with excellent Service and I have enjoyed every minute of every session.... i don't always Cum. I have a few medical issues that I take medication for and I have always attributed the less than stellar finish to be a side effect. For me personally it has never really been an issue... like I said I have enjoyed every minute of my time with the ladies and always leave feeling happy. What I want to know is what do the ladies think.... Just looking for your opinion....
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1 pointI have visited gentlemen in there homes for the first time encounter as I only do outcalls in Montreal...I do lots of verification first, speak on the phone and use my gut feeling...it usually doesn't fail me...First time is always stressful but I always smile when they call back :D BJ
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1 pointJust finished mine. I'm going to sit on it a couple hours before submitting. 1. Do you think that purchasing sexual services from an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. No. It should not be illegal for any adult to purchase sexual services directly from a consenting adult who will be providing those services. 2. Do you think that selling sexual services by an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. No. It should not be illegal for any consenting adult to sell their own sexual services to another consenting adult. 3. If you support allowing the sale or purchase of sexual services, what limitations should there be, if any, on where or how this can be conducted? Please explain. Communities should be able to penalize those who cause real problems as the result of any type of public commercial conduct. This includes littering, lewd public behaviour, harassment, and interfering with the flow of traffic. However, if street prostitutes and customers are behaving responsibly and not causing any problems, they should not be penalized on purely ideological grounds. Independent sex workers and customers should be allowed to meet in their homes, hotel rooms or premises rented for the purpose of prostitution. Multiple prostitutes should be able to work from one residence, as long as they legally reside at that residence and there are no outward signs that the residence is being used commercially (such as a sign, display visible to those outside the residence, or other indicator), and services are provided by appointment only (not on a walk-in basis). Third party walk-in operations, such as massage parlours or brothels, should exist only in properly zoned areas, should be licensed, and should be restricted to renting premises and services to independent prostitutes (not to consumers of sex services). Private clubs should be allowed to hold adult events involving prostitution. 4. Do you think that it should be a criminal offence for a person to benefit economically from the prostitution of an adult? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. Obviously, prostitutes, like anyone else in our society, should be able to use their earnings to support their families, and spend as they please. Prostitutes should be able to hire the services of others, including drivers, agents, and housekeepers. It should be illegal for any person to employ prostitutes to provide services to third parties. The potential for exploitation is too great with this model. For example, an escort agency, where the agent provides services to the prostitute, is fine. An escort service, where the operator hires and fires prostitutes, is not. A massage parlour or brothel that rents space to prostitutes, along with providing services including advertising, reception, laundry and security is fine. A massage parlour or brothel that employs prostitutes to provide sex to customers, and takes the profits off the top, giving the prostitutes no control over who they see or how they work, is not. As long as the prostitute is the customer, and can choose from among any number of service providers, exploitation will be best checked. When the prostitute is the employee, at the mercy of one employer for her livelihood, that is a situation ripe for exploitation. 5. Are there any other comments you wish to offer to inform the Government's response to the Bedford decision? Prostitution has always happened and always will happen. There is even evidence of animals engaging in prostitution. So any attempt to criminalize prostitution in order to eradicate it is doomed to fail and cause extensive damage, both to individuals and to communities. Therefore, only those aspects of prostitution which are shown to cause a real harm, either to sex workers or communities, should be targeted by the law. Lawmakers should work closely with sex workers across Canada in the writing of any new law. As with many issues, laws based on ideology or public stigma will prove disastrous. 6. Are you writing on behalf of an organization? If so, please identify the organization and your title or role: Nope! Just me. My credentials? Independent prostitute in Canada since 1982.
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1 pointHere is the link again everybody: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cons/curr-cours/proscons-conspros/index.html#2014_02_17 And here are my answers ;) Concise I am not, but then again, I am very passionate about this topic. I will be writing to my MP as well, and to the Minister of Justice. I do sincerely encourage all of you to let the government know where you stand on these issues ;) Thank you all in advance! 1. Do you think that purchasing sexual services from an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. No please no! Lots of ordinary citizens (your fathers, brothers, fellow employees, and employers) use the services of sex workers. They do so discreetly behind closed doors in ways that do not affect other community members. Lots of ordinary citizens are in sexless relationships/marriages that would not even endure if not for the availability of sexual services. Furthermore, there are disabled individuals out there, and others with poor social skills/social anxiety, or otherwise disadvantaged in the dating market, who could get no sexual relief were it not for the services of sex workers. Consensual adult prostitution should Not be criminalized. The government does Not belong in the bedrooms of our nation. 2. Do you think that selling sexual services by an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. No again! We are autonomous individuals. The selling of sexual services is very similar to that of other therapeutic services, e.g. massage/body-work, even chiropractic treatments. Often hands, elbows, knees, and other body-parts are employed in the delivery of these personal services. Often there is full nudity of the client and/or partial nudity of the therapist. Yet we don't criminalize any of these services (nor should we!), and we should not criminalize ordinary Canadians who choose to use their hands/breast/mouth/genitalia in the delivery of erotic services. To criminalize an individual's autonomous use of their body is a huge infringement on human rights. Please do not take us back to the dark ages. 3. If you support allowing the sale or purchase of sexual services, what limitations should there be, if any, on where or how this can be conducted? Please explain. According to Toronto Police, there are currently 200+ incalls operating out of the city's many condo buildings. Additionally on any given day, individual sex workers or agencies rent out hotel rooms all over the city and the sex workers aka providers welcome clients there. This is all done discreetly. The clients of sex workers and the sex workers themselves value their privacy and most would not want to be seen walking in or out of a large known brothel. We also have massage parlours all over the city, many of which have become full-service operations. Even those offer a discreet and safe location for providers & clients. In my opinion, any limitations to sex work should be achieved through zoning by-laws. E.g. stand-alone brothels should be subject to the same types of zoning as the current massage parlours. Those operating out of hotels/condos should be left alone as they are currently tolerated. (Again, most have every interest to operate discreetly, but should there be any noise complaints, those should be dealt way the same way any noise complaint would be handled.) With regards to street-based sex work which still takes place in some cities across Canada, this could again be handled through zoning, by having the city designate certain streets as 'strolls.' If someone is caught soliciting in public outside of a designated stroll, they could be served with a public nuisance ticket similar to a parking ticket. We should Definitely Not criminalize these most vulnerable of citizens, which by the way only make up 5% of the total sex worker population. 4. Do you think that it should be a criminal offence for a person to benefit economically from the prostitution of an adult? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. No again. There are professional agencies out there that are no different than a regular talent booking agent. They provide the women or men working there with a safe working location (hotel/condo), a professional web presence, professional photographs, and advertising services. For all this, they deserve a cut of the earnings in the same way an art gallery keeps 50% of the proceeds from the sale of an artist's painting. The only time a 3rd party should be criminalized is if they can be proven to engage in coercive practices (and Canada already has criminal laws against coercion.) 5. Are there any other comments you wish to offer to inform the Government's response to the Bedford decision? Please understand that prohibition doesn't work. This industry still exists all over the US, and ordinary citizens (clients & providers) have to be extra-careful and perform additional screening just to make sure neither is dealing with LE (law enforcement.) Making criminals out of ordinary citizens for no other reasons than that they were exercising autonomy of their bodies without harming anyone or disturbing other community members is pure insanity, and no way to serve the people. The 'Nordic Model' of one-sided criminalization is just as bad. Most clients are ordinary, well-behaved citizens (fellow community members.) They just want to discreetly meet their needs without causing harm or interfering with anyone. The only clients that should be criminalized are those engaging in violence/rape or theft, and I know Canada already has criminal laws against assault, rape, and theft. Blanket criminalization of all clients as per the Nordic Model, would make criminals out of ordinary well-behaved citizens. Furthermore, to avoid being caught by LE, the activity would go further 'in the shadows' and lead to the same safety concerns for sex workers as the laws found unconstitutional by the SCC. Decriminalization is the *only* sane way to go re: consensual adult prostitution, just like we have decriminalized gay sex a long time ago. Pls. also understand that the human trafficking saga is grossly exaggerated by misguided moralistic groups. In real cases of human trafficking and coercion, we already have laws in Canada that deal with these issues. 6. Are you writing on behalf of an organization? If so, please identify the organization and your title or role: No, but I am writing from my perspective as a self-employed independent sex worker, who has been in the industry on & off for a few years. Throughout this time, I have worked out of many hotels, and out of three different condo buildings. Before working independently, I did work for a couple of escort agencies, which provided me with a condo location to work out of, a professional web presence, and professional pictures (all things I was grateful for as I wasn't in a position to pay for these things myself at the time.) I graduated university at the top of my class. I engage in sex work out of my own volition and have never been coerced by anyone. In my experience meeting many sex workers, we have been more concerned about being criminalized by misguided laws than by any perceived harms from clients or 'pimps.' I do not deserve to be made a criminal in this great country of ours, nor do my wonderful clients who are professionals and business owners from all over Canada. I beg you to listen to the voices of sex workers and clients. Studies have been done already, e.g. http://www.johnsvoice.ca. I pray that Canada continues to be a light-house of human rights throughout the world. Sex workers and their clients deserve the same human rights as any other Canadians. Thank you for reading, and for considering my opinion.
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1 pointFor me, it is all of the above, plus her attitude, personality ( could be part of the chemistry), trust and most of all - my bank account! :biggrin:
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1 pointCan't really put it into words....you might call it chemistry.But I do know from experience, even if the first visit was great.... the second or subsequent vivits will probably be better. The reason is trust, it is amazing what a difference that makes. It is amazing but, things get turned up a notch as the trust factor increases. I think it is just instinct, that sense that this is a good fit, that brings you back for more.
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