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I haven't been around much in the last 5-6 months and I have no idea who has been mentioned in this thread but here are my 2(.5) Goddesses of the day, all for their own unique individual qualities: JoyfulC Lexy Grace ... ... ... LeeRichards I know, I know. Lee is not an SP or a woman but he can be my sexy Goddess any time he wants! ;)

Since you offered to pay and she accepted and said she would make the session up to you, then give her benefit of doubt she'll keep her word. The fact that you have already seen her 5 times indicates to me you have a connection. I don't really see a problem. I think it's better she was honest with you about feeling ill rather than attempting to work when she was sick which no doubt would have left you unsatisfied. Life happens and although not pleasant just is what it is. I don't see you needing to worry about it.

I'm with Angela on this. Especially since you've seen her five times already, you two must click. Maybe she thought at the beginning of your time she could provide a massage but just turned out she wasn't feeling up to it. Book another encounter with her. She wants to give you your massage. Treat this time as one of those "life happens" That's what I'd do, especially if it was with a lady I have seen regularily My two cents RG

It has come up in this thread already but text speak really grinds my gears. When people same the word come as cum, it makes me cringe and I do not understand why people think that is okay. Just contact me using nice and proper words with a hello thrown in there and I am good to go!

Thank you. You've included it all, and for those reasons I charge what I do. But I do feel that a lot of this is not taken into account by many men when they value our rates. I believe some men think "oh she is just having sex", or "playing for an hour", how hard is that? Above all of the business there is also the physical strength and stamina needed along with the emotional where with all one needs to maintain. Staying in a profession that many frown upon and deem immoral, one that many feel is for those who are less than, is itself a challenge, even when you like/love what you do. Quite honestly all these points = priceless. But yet we price it, so to those you wrote this for please appreciate this thread and those who choose this profession and offer of themselves. Remember many of us do choose:)

I know this is a question for the guys but I did walk in to an outcall and on a few occasion porn was playing on the TV and personally I dont enjoy it...I dont mind if he watches it before i get there but prefer if he turns it off once I arrive...just my opinion...

I sometimes don't add rates to my ads and I never publish my website, on purpose. I haven't published my website url at any point, it's only available for those who email me an inquiry because it doesn't feel right to me to put it out there. I prefer to have an idea of who is looking at my site; I'm not sure why but it's worked for me so far. Most of my ads have prices now but when I don't, I receive less responses but those that do respond are a much better fit for me. It really depends on the providers intentions. I'm never looking for same day or even same week appointments and having a guest contact me that is willing to explore who I am and what I offer seems to precludes a more satisfying experience for the both of us... cat

I'm very excited to be attending my first social! Booked my rm last week!!!!! Should be great, I hear they are! Xoxo

I agree with what the others have said. I had a similar situation. Only the lady was visiting me in my home and it was our 2nd date. She insisted that she wanted to stay. It was obvious she was not up to it. I tended to her like I would any other sick friend. (Blanket, tea, flat ginger ale, soup, soda crackers, Gravol, Tylenol.) She took a nap (alone) for a couple of hours. She declined the donation but I stuck it in her coat pocket anyway. The rest is history - we saw each other (professionally) for about two years. Always treat people with dignity and respect. Expect nothing in return. When you least expect it someone will do the same for you.

Temptation never tasted so sweet. Indulge in the fruits of life and allow my sultry touch to take care of your needs and desires. Tuesday 11-8 Wednesday 11-8 Friday 1-9 xx- Miss Scarlette -xx

So sorry about your little guy, but why not take it to a vet, there are those who specialize in exotic creatures.

hmmm maybe it's just time then. ohhhh! that's so sad! he's warm .. he's cuddled up in the warm corner of his tank on the UTH and he's right under the light. He's got water and I'm misting him regularly but he just won't eat. He's a cricket fan but I think now he's too weak to catch them. He used to love to hunt! I am headed to the pet store in the morning to see if they have some small mealworms, even though he has never liked them I figure if he's hungry and I feed him with tweezers he might take them. I can't watch him starve this is awful. thanks for your help xoxo

what are turns offs for me? 1. sending 50 text messages asking the same dumb questions (to which the answers were, and always have been, in my website, and the reason I no longer accept text messages) 2. consistently cancelling the appointment without any notice at all (once someone has done this 3 times, I no longer book) 3. (agreeing with some of the other ladies here) aggressive gentlemen (and I use that phrase loosely here) that think I owe them something for them allowing themselves to contact me in the first place, but having to disappoint them because they didn't read my availability 4. no-shows, boy, aren't those fun! especially when I have taken the time to not do something for myself and fit the person into my personal schedule. 5. those that show up drunk/high/both! Needless to say the date doesn't continue 6. hygiene - need I say more here! 7. anyone that does not respect the boundaries that I set. For instance, I do not and never have provided greek services, its prevalent in my website. So when someone is disappointed in me, once they are in the date with me, when they realize that I'm not kidding about not providing that service, it makes me very uncomfortable. Don't ever assume that a service will be provided just because you request it, chances are that if an sp does not state its a service she provides, then it doesn't happen. 8. not having your donation ready in the manner requested (especially if you have arrived with not enough, or only enough to cover what YOU think would be considered 'right' for 1/2 hour(which I do not arrange) or thinking that a gift you bring covers you for an extra hour). 9. sending messages that just say, 'hi', or really bad messages like, 'hey babe, you available to party/fuck'. First they don't tell me anything about you, secondly they don't tell me what you are looking for and when, thirdly I rarely respond to messages such as these. 10. asking for a reduction! I find this completely unacceptable and rude. Rates are set and not up for negotiating. Just a little of what turns me off. But I have to say, of the gentlemen of Cerb that I have had the privilege of entertaining, I have had a wonderful time with and had no problems with.

Why do we close our eyes when we pray, cry, kiss, dream? Because the most beautiful things in life are not seen but felt only by heart.

personally, I prefer that someone go through my website to see rates, and that is just a simple click on my ad. This way you can see my pics, and services I offer, and then make a decision as to whether or not you want to make a date or not. Just having in ads leads to some looking at ads that are weeks or months old wanting the same rates, when the services could be something more than they expected or wanted. I find its always best to check websites to see rates, this way you will have a better picture of the person you wish to see.

After a lot of research, trial and error, if I need to use a product I use Bon Vital Massage Gel. It has the workability of an oil and sinks into the skin like a lotion. It's also all natural with jojoba and you can actually lick it without your tongue going numb (many massage products have an additive that does this). The product is unscented and water dispersible.

I hate that. Saw an SP in Vancouver and she had a TV and DVD player on a cart that she rolled into the bedroom. I told her I was paying money to see her not watch TV. She insisted, I think it was pure laziness on her part ie if the video entertains me, less work for her. One of the very worst sessions ever, total waste of time and money. I can see all the porn I want at home for free. Maybe if some guy gets a big thrill out of watching it, okay. But it is nothing but a distraction and an annoyance for most guys that I have spoken to about it.

Or you could pm them or try calling them to discuss rates/details if you are not comfortable with text or need to be discreet! There is always a way to work around thing Good luck

Gents this lady is gem. I would recommend seeing her. This is her 1st time in Winnipeg so treat her nice so that she would come back. Booking was real easy as always with MGF. Location is Ok as long as it's not past 11pm at night lol. Lots of parking around. Real spinner lady. Very attentive and eager to please. BBBJ, MSOG, MPOS is on the menu for 1hr. Soft skin, great view from behind and to boot there's a mirror on the foot of the bed. She is very educated and conversation is smooth with this lady. Pictures are accurate on their website. Looks:9 Service:10 Personality:10 YMMV

I agree with Angela and RG. There's obviously a connection there and a level of trust that comes along with that. Don't let the business side of things cloud the human, compassionate side. If this is her main, or important, source of income, and she's ill and unable to work, I'm sure she's extremely appreciative.

I often reply to comments on pics, and always respond to profile & private messages, but I would never find the time to thank everyone who stops by and visits my profile. Same with the birthdays and posting milestones ... how the hell do you people have time to keep up with all this stuff?? So... in keeping with my blanket "happy birthday" post to all members earlier this year, please consider all of yourselves "thanked" if you've visited my profile. hehehe ...

Two weeks ago I was in Las Vegas. But that was not the stupid part, that comes later. The day before we were scheduled to depart I noticed my credit card case was missing! Shift to high alert, worked the phones and cancelled credit and debit cards, major hassle but at least I was safe from rip off artists. Fast forward one week. Emptied our my carry-on travel bag and what did I find? Yep the aforementioned card case was hiding under a pair of used boxers. Doh! Well I guess better safe than sorry, but do I ever feel stupid!

Well it was late on a sunday night and I live in a very small town ... I figured I might get some quick tips here and I did! I have an appointment today at 3pm with a vet who knows lizards, but there is no "exotic pet" specialist in my area. oh good to know!! I did try the mealworms and he ate one right away but he did struggle a bit with it so I will squish their heads from now on. Gawd that's gross. uugghh... thanks for everyone's good wishes ... he already looks better ... maybe he just missed me!

NEW KiKi 24 year old (former exotic dancer ) 5'2 ft tall, stunning redhead, native, irish, French, Canadian mix, 100 pounds, 34C, petite,brown eyes, Bilingual. Monday Tia 9-11 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Pandora 9-4 aka "Pandora" Brooklyn 9-5 aka "brookynsfinest" Sabrina R 9-4 aka "SabrinaR" KiKi 9-11 NEW aka "Kinky-Kiki" April 10-11 NEW Avah 11-6 aka "Avah" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Amanda P. 4:30-11 aka "Triple Delight" Tuesday Tia 9-4 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Salina 9-4 aka "Salinaflower" Brooklyn 9-4 aka "brookynsfinest" Sabrina R 9-4 aka "SabrinaR" Mandy 10-7 aka "CandyMandy" Chloe 2-9 aka "XChloeX" Kandice 12-9 aka "Sweet Kandice" Kiki 2-11 NEW aka "Kinky-Kiki" Cherry 3-11 aka "Cherry Blossom" April 3:30-11 NEW Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Sasha 4-11 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Wednesday Chloe 9-4 aka "XChloeX" Robyn 9-4 aka "robynxoxo" April 9-4 NEW Brooklyn 9-4 aka "brookynsfinest" Tia 9-6 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Cherry 11-4 aka "Cherry Blossom" Mandy 11-7 aka "CandyMandy" Kandice 3:30-11 aka "Sweet Kandice" Victoria 3:30-11 aka "victoriasct" Sasha 3:30-11 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Hannah 3:30-11 aka "Hannahxo" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Thursday AJ 9-2 Chloe 9-4 aka "XChloeX" Salina 9-4 aka "Salinaflower" Chasity 9-6 aka "Chasityxox" Brooklyn 10-4 aka "brookynsfinest" Mandy 10-7 aka "CandyMandy" Avah 11-6 aka "Avah" Kiki 2-11 NEW aka "Kinky-Kiki" Victoria 3:30-11 aka "victoriasct" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" April 3:30-11 NEW Samantha 3:30-11 aka "Naughty Samantha" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Sabrina 6-11 aka "SabrinaXOX" Cherry 6-11 aka "Cherry Blossom" Friday Tia 9-4 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Kimber 10-11 NEW aka "sweetkimber" Salina 9-4 aka "Salinaflower" Pandora 9-4 aka "Pandora" Samantha 9-3 aka "Naughty Samantha" Tia 9-4 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Mandy 10-7 aka "Candy Mandy" Cherry 11-4 aka "Cherry Blossom" Avah 11-6 aka "Avah" April 2:30-11 NEW Victoria 3:30-11 aka "victoriasct" Bianca 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Bianca" Kandice 3:30-11 aka "Sweet Kandice" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Nina 5-11 aka "Nina Dream" Sabrina 6-11 aka "SabrinaXOX" Saturday Brooklyn 9-4 aka "brooklynfinest" Tia 9-4 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Kiki 9-4 NEW aka "Kinky-Kiki" Amanda 9-5 aka "Triple Delight" Nina 9-11 aka "Nina Dream" Sabrina 9-11 aka "SabrinaXOX" Bianca 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Bianca" April 3:30-11 NEW Kandice 3:30-11 aka "Sweet Kandice" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Kimber 4-11 NEW aka "sweetkimber" Sunday Tia 10-4 aka "Tiaa.Lovee.x0" Kimber 10-9 NEW aka "sweetkimber" Bianca 10-9 aka "Sexy Bianca" Nina 10-7 aka "Nina Dream" Sabrina 10-9 aka "SabrinaXOX" Kiki 11-9 NEW aka "Kinky-Kiki" Brooklyn 11-9 aka "brooklynfinest" Kandice 3:30-9 aka "Sweet Kandice"

Okay, enough of the chicken's breast, how were the dancers' breasts? ;)

All great points! I especially hate when someone calls books an appointment and then doesn't show.up...no phone call/text nothing!.just a no show I understand in life things happen and sometimes we have to cancel but its only common courtesy to at least inform the lady I personally don't sit around in my lingerie waiting for my phone to ring...I have other things going on so when I book with someone I have to make arrangements and get ready I hate having to do so for nothing argggggg a true pain in the behind(and not a good pain lol) I can honestly say I haven't really had that problem with cerb members Xoxoxoxo I love my cerbies

It is nice to be noticed, particularly after leaving a guestbook or picture comment. To me, a response signals approachability and friendliness, and definitely leaves a positive memory imprint. Sometimes it's those initial cordial responses that plant the seeds for future rendezvous.

Gentlemen... My name is Cherry. I've been in the massage industry for 6 months now, I'm loving what I do. I am 20 years young. My hair is long and Blond and my eyes are Bright Blue. I have a dark tan all over my baby soft skin with no tan lines and no tattoos. I eat right and exercise regularly which keeps me very fit and toned and flexible. My boobs are the perfect handful and you wont be able to wait to suck on my perky nipples. My bum is more than a handful and I lovvee to have it touched, massaged, spanked and crested. My Numbers.. *Height: 5"3 *Weight: 105 - 110Ibs *Feet: Size 5 - 6 *Boobs: 34B *Petite My traits.. Very outgoing, playful, sensual, erotic, naughty, classy, caring, educated, respectful, discreet and open minded. Some of the things my sessions can offer... *Showers for two *Reverse massage *Topless massage *Erotic nude massage *100% Natural Oil *Foot fetish *Outfits, Dress up (if pre-requested) *Some Fetish *Role Play/Age Play *Happy Ending I work Paradise Spa, located in the west end The most clean, classy and discreet Spa in Ottawa This week's Scheduled Tuesday 7:00pm - 11:00pm Wednesday 11:00am - 4:00pm Thursday 6:00pm - 11:00pm To book your time with me 613-820-8887 xoxoxox

Anything that reeks of entitlement or bad boundaries. Guys who leap right into grovelling or submissive behaviour from the first contact. Until we negotiate a scene, I am not your mistress or your dom. I am your equal. I don't appreciate being non-consensually pulled into a dom/sub dynamic or a potential client trying to start a scene with me over email by being all subby and expecting me to respond all domly like. Save it for when I've agreed to see you and we're in the same room. Being disingenuous about why you want certain activities when we're negotiating. If you really want a certain act or activity because it turns you on, just be honest about it. Don't try and convince me that you just want to do it for my pleasure if I've already told you that I prefer something else. I'm very happy to roleplay being really into your kink and "forcing" you to do it once we're in session, but if you can't be honest and straight forward before we start playing it's off putting. Insisting on discussing the details of our session by phone, when I've made it clear I prefer email for that. I have a detailed email form on my site for a reason, and having the specifics about your kinks, experience level, clothing preferences, fantasies etc in writing is really important for me, so that I can go back and review that information before you arrive. Everyone I see wants something different and the details are usually very important to creating a hot scene. And since I book most sessions well in advance, the odds that I'm going to remember every important detail is pretty slim if we planned everything by phone.

You're right of course. Rhinos are critically endangered. I'm just as dismayed by the killing of elephants for their ivory, particularly because of the elaborate social behaviours elephants exhibit surrounding herd-mates, death, and mourning. Let's amend and Canadian-ize my post: - To avoid an enormous caribou sprinting down my side of the street! You wouldn't believe how often this happens.

There is also the expenses associated with travel to other cities when on tour. No one has mentioned the cost of private medical and dental insurance. Lets not forget about a private pension plan. I hope that most of you ladies have these things covered? It is not easy living on just CPP alone. I am glad Cristy mentioned the physical and emotional costs. I am amazed at how well many of you ladies stay sane with some of the nonsense you have to deal with from society and some less than gentlemanly clients. I am pleased to see that some of you track your income and expenses. I am sure that Stats Canada and Revenue Canada appreciate your efforts. ;)

Hi there, This is an old story, and I like to think it's about spiritual transformation. I thought that you would like it. The Touch of the Masters Hand Twas battered and scarred, and the auctioneer thought it scarcely worth his while to waste much time on the old violin, but held it up with a smile; "What am I bidden, good folks," he cried, "Who'll start the bidding for me?" "A dollar, a dollar"; then two!" "Only two? Two dollars, and who'll make it three? Three dollars, once; three dollars twice; going for three.." But no, from the room, far back, a gray-haired man came forward and picked up the bow; Then, wiping the dust from the old violin, and tightening the loose strings, he played a melody pure and sweet as caroling angel sings. The music ceased, and the auctioneer, with a voice that was quiet and low, said; "What am I bid for the old violin?" And he held it up with the bow.A thousand dollars, and who'll make it two? Two thousand! And who'll make it three? Three thousand, once, three thousand, twice, and going and gone," said he. The people cheered, but some of them cried, "We do not quite understand what changed its worth." Swift came the reply: "The touch of a master's hand." And many a man with life out of tune, and battered and scarred with sin, Is auctioned cheap to the thoughtless crowd, much like the old violin, A"mess of pottage," a glass of wine; a game - and he travels on. "He is going" once, and "going twice, He's going and almost gone." But the Master comes, and the foolish crowd never can quite understand the worth of a soul and the change that's wrought by the touch of the Master's hand. Myra 'Brooks' Welch

My ad, allows a brief introduction to me. I then ask you view my website for additional information. Its much easier to keep all the details in one place - Donations, photos, email, booking form,etc)

Just like the other ladies mentioned...a simple click to the website and everything is there :) BJ

The reasons will probably be as varied as the providers. One reason might be because the sp feels it more discrete to discuss them one on one. I post my rates on my site but seldom do I in my ads. I want men to view my site before they book with me. After all, the point of setting up a site is to inform potential clients of my rates. services, how best to contact me and a little insight into my personality. So prior to contacting me they'll be informed. It does seem lately though an effort for a lot of men to take a minute to read , lol. In the end every sp advertises in her own special way, frustrating or not, she/he has chosen to do it for their reasons, which are important to them, so they should be respected. I have one service that I'll only give the rate via phone. I'm picky about who I offer this service to and want to speak to the potential client first. I prefer this for all my services, as talking to someone can give you much more insight than an email or text, imo. So inconvenient or not this is the way I want it:)

I believe the Bio tone oil has the ingredient that numbs the tongue making it highly undesirable if the massage is going further.

Interesting thread, thank you for starting it! :) As someone who has recently started offering massage services, I am very interested to hear what massage lovers prefer. I've been using a high quality cold pressed organic virgin coconut oil. It has wonderful properties, texture and consistency, and the scent is super mild and barely there, because it's totally natural. I also warm it up on the stove before using it, to make it even more enjoyable. I just love it, and I've had great feedback so far. I keep a few other various options on hand, and am open to suggestions, but so far the coconut oil has been a hit. It's amazing for the skin, including mine, after using my body to rub it all over my subject. ;) It's also totally edible (wink wink) and actually even good for you.

I think I've had all the stuff out there used on me and my preference is a good quality Massage Oil like Biotone. The stuff is about $13 for 8 oz or $54 a gallon and is available locally. Their lotion is also good. A number of MAs use baby oil and I hate it !! Some even use the scented stuff which smells like hell for the rest of the day! Although the unscented stuff doesn't smell, you still can't get rid of it unless you have 2 showers. I also get a rash from baby oil for some reason !! If you figure out the price of a gallon of baby oil you may find that good massage oil, or lotion if you prefer, is probably around the same price !! The massage oil is very slippery and is water soluble so cleanup is a breeze. It just plain gives a better massage. I don't mind unscented baby oil for the finish if that's what the MA prefers but not for the massage. If I visit an MA that I enjoy and she uses baby oil I will bring a bottle of Biotone on my second visit. Some switch and others just save the bottle of massage oil for my future visits :) My 2 cents, from a customer's perspective.

I am always complimented on my massage with which I only use a lotion. The one I have been using and like is KERI intense hydration, unscented. My experiences leads me to believe that most gentlemen prefer unscented products . I have very sensitive skin that seems to react to most oils and a lot of creams and lotions but this lotion works well for my personal use as well..

So I took one for the team... 24/7 agency? I was assured prior to the appointment by a man on the phone that it would not be a bait and switch situation after I warned him I would leave if it was. Well it was a bait and switch but whats worse is this girl was obviously not in a good place. She tried to make small talk and stuff and it was just really bad. I could tell she was struggling with addiction. She had that emptiness about her. The apartment was filled with smoke. There was weed out on the table. It was a truly Disgusting scene. I turned and left. Makes me sick how people can be exploited this way. 24/7 agency = very bad. Stay away.

Lol ok thanks.everyone was just curious!

Are you ready for a fun time? maybe just need a relaxing massage to calm your nerves. either way, im your lady:) All my picture are true to image, you won't be disappointed. Blonde, Polish Canadian and tight curves. Working from Paradise in Bells tonight until 4

It happened to me a few times yes :) but I refrain myself...why? Coz a lot of them are married so I just hope they will come back to see me :) I'm single and have feelings so yes it can be challenging to not reach out... When they get in touch with me telling me that they wrote a review and ask me if it's ok and if I approve :) I do love to see a reco that I did not expect...kind of a nice suprise :) I never ask that but would presume they would want to know that it's you calling...good thing I'm sure :) Just tell the sp before and go with the flow...most ladies here would know how to make you feel at ease...for me I would start with a conversation to break the ice...usually it does wonders :) I would absolutely love to hold hands and walk arm in arm :) that would be the real gfe. I'm sure they're important to a certain point...when you start it helps get you established...for me now... I appreciate a gent who takes time to write a reco, it's flattering and it makes my day :) I've done it before but never took pic snd never will... Additional Comments: I love receiving a gift card...it takes less room in luggages lol, I love wine too to share during encounters :) I used to show my face at the beginning but decided not too coz I don't want to be recognized in public. Yes of course :) i always enjoy seeing a repeat client...some more then others coz of the chemistry we have built together :)but seeing a new client can be very thrilling too :) BJ Additional Comments: Yes it happened to me a few times...I'd rather not know too much and find out for myself :)

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I would hope that if a lady has an advertised 3 hour rate posted on her website (or ad) that she charges exactly that. As per your example, $550 total and not $600. It has happened to me many times in the past where a gentleman reserved my time for 3 hours and inquired, before we got together, about the possibility of extending. I always told him/them to have my 3 hour donation in one envelop and the difference in a second envelop; if my donation was $850 for 3 hours and $1050 for 4, to have an extra $200 in a separate envelop. Spur of the moment extensions? Same principal regarding rates, at least for me. A discounted rate (less than what I advertise) because of a last minute extension? I don't see why...

You can't look at this business as a by-the-hour salary. We don't work eight hours a day, five days a week. The time and money that goes into replying to message boards, replying to emails, posting ads, taking phone calls, self-care/hygiene, photo shoots, the cost of maintaining an incall or transportation to outcalls, website upkeep, travel costs for touring etc. eats into that "per hour" figure as well. This business also ebbs and flows, and there are downtimes that balance out busy periods. We don't have sick time or vacation pay. Yes, this can be a very touchy subject, especially when there are assumptions made. Additional Comments: 1. They're not "selling themselves". We sell a service, not our bodies. Let's not use the same language abolitionist groups use when creating moral panic and conflating human trafficking with sex work. 2. "Too cheap" -- according to whom? There are many reasons why someone chooses to set their rates at what they are, and quite honestly, it's not up to us to judge. There is no regulatory board that oversees our industry. To some people, my rates can be "too high" or "too low". To that, I say that is none of your business. It's MY business. My rates have increased since I started in this business, as I figured out what my expenses were and how often I wanted to work. They are at a price-point which allows me to see the clients I want to see while maintaining a modest lifestyle and going to school. It has afforded me some opportunities I wouldn't ordinarily have, like buying my first car, but at the same time, I don't feel I am living an extravagant lifestyle (it was a great deal on a used car). There is always going to be someone with lower rates or higher rates than you. That is how this business, and all businesses work. Stop looking at other providers and comparing yourself to them; concentrate on your own self. It's not a matter of "s/he's stealing clients from me", IMHO, but rather "what am *I* doing to attract and retain clients?" 3. Let's not make assumptions about what a "lower" price-point implies, especially when it's making potentially stigmatizing and dangerous statements about having a pimp or drug addiction. We don't know their situation. I'm honestly quite surprised that this thread is still going on, just as I was surprised to see in another thread a provider pose the question of someone she had never met being underage. Statements like the ones in this thread have the possibility of impacting someone else's business and well-being, and not in a good way.

I'm new to all this, only being with one lady (twice) so far, but I found the final hug and kiss a little awkward. Not that I disliked it in anyway. Quite the opposite, really: I'd love a more passionate goodbye, I'm sure. :) But, as someone new to the lifestyle, I think the passion, friendliness, and genuine caring of the lady was a little bit of a surprise. One can read volumes on encounters and what to expect, but until it's actually experienced... Which is my way of saying to the ladies, don't let us awkward newbies stop you from being you and don't give up on us. ;)

awesome info I plan to visit there later this week