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I will give my opinion on this topic. I am one of the ladies who prefer not use explicit language in my advertising and in my posts because is not in my personality so I would be using what some like to read to attract readers and/or potential guests who would come see someone I'm not however I have always respected ladies who have a different approach than mine. There has been in the past one or two ads that I thought were a bit too explicit, or what you call vulgar and I admit to have made in my mind an idea of what the posters were like and with time through posts they started making that weren't ads, I realized that wording in ads didn't define the person they are, and definitely does not make them unclassy, there's also ladies who never use explicit language in their ads and even use the word classy in them and in my opinion (based on things I saw) they are not. Class is not in what you wear or the words one use in an ad or post but in how you (the real you) carry yourself so I don't think an ad defines if a lady is or isn't classy. As for the way some men refer to ladies here, I agree with you than some should be more respectful but is the same as with ladies, I have had a not so great almost encounter with a member here who in many of his threads comment how he is a gentleman and with me he didn't act like one which is why I think that words are just that and don't make us who we are. There was also a time with one of the most respected members here (don't think he is active anymore) was in the general chat room giving very intimate details of his time with a lady and using language that I wouldn't like to be used when talking about me so I asked to please stop referring to her like that and to take his conversation to a private chat, he told me that this is an adult forum and that I needed to grow up so I guess what I'm trying to say is that is not about the words used but the respect or lack of it behind them. Hope I am making sense :)

I don't see it as hypocritical (or that that is a fair assessment of risk level, to promote doing bbbjs, for example, i am not isolating your comment, just that it is often used as an attack on sps who say cbj only, but allow kissing and daty) because the risk LEVEL is not at all the same. There is still risk, but you compare two low risk activity with one high risk activity, and it isn't comparable. I also note the talking to the doctor, but my advice is to talk to the experts at an std clinic. Drs. are great at general info, but they are not experts in everything. They will either greatly exagerate or underestimate your personal risk activity. The std clinic professionals are the only ones, when i went in for testing at my regular clinic and std clinic, to ask me about throat swab or how i did oral sex, and pointed out that if bbbjs are done, then they go for the throat (so to speak). I don't think we can underestimate the risk to the sp, not necessarily the client, in a bbbj. She is the recipient, not he. I do think it is a moderate risk for clients, tho, not high risk but not no risk or low risk either. On the topic, tho, i doubt if it will change how many sps give or do not give bbbjs. I think the ones that do not now are mainly the ones who don't do it because they won't accept the risks, and the ones who do it the vast majority don't know the risks, they are allowing someone else to tell them, whether they are foreign workers or just younger workers, they aren't finding out for themselves the std facts. What is the most common thing available at an agency? bbbj. Is this service a condition of employment? Is it a condition of getting bookings or recommendations when sp is new to the agency? Some agencies have been reported that some services are mandatory, including high risk services. The only thing that this report will help is if the industry was regulated by Occupation Health and Safety lol I wouldn't call this an 'end' to bbbjs, but a 'return' to how things used to be. bbbjs are only common now that everyone thinks that there is a cure for HIV and/or that it isn't transmitted that way. as the OP points out, HIV is not the issue when it comes to oral sex, everything else is, and those things, untreated are evey bit as life or health threatening as HIV.

I can live with CFS and CBJ. I have never had a BBBJ so I don't know what I am missing there. But I could not go without daty. Even the concept of protected daty seems like - whats the point. To give up kissing - not going to happen. Practice good hygiene several times a day, and talk openly with your doctor on a regular basis. Stay educated, play safe, choose SPs and other sexual partners wisely, and decide what risks are acceptable for yourself. IMO. Final word - respect the other persons boundaries and limitations. Do not question their choices or push them where they do not want to go.

I think if you are going to question bbbj's then you have to question daty and even kissing. apparently kissing can also spread this. It's passed in the saliva, as the article I've included attests. I fully agree here. We all take precautions and are very aware our own hygiene. But with this strain of bacteria, it really does make us all take a look at who we are with and what we are doing. Due diligence on all sides would be useful here. Making sure that we all keep ourselves free from any forms of bacteria should be a part of daily living, but one never knows who the other person has been with. It will be up to providers to figure out what levels they are going to give in to when it comes to seeing gentlemen.

I reread the article wrong so my apologies. I've erased my first comment In the end and it's been said thousands of times, multiple partners will cause risks, no matter what type of sex you are having. We all have to be proactive about our health and bodies. Everything we do involves risk and most is choice so liked or not, risky or not I'm sure it'll continue with favor:)In the end, what you choose is your business what I choose is mine and I don't think much is going to change that. http://jezebel.com/5946480/rethinking-the-blow-job-condoms-or-gonorrhea-take-your-pick

Well I thought about an avatar change and was close to changing it but this guy started yelling at me Saying if I changed my avatar he would bring his brothers, one with a baseball bat and the other who has delusions of being a soldier and the third who thinks he's an assassin Soooo, after weighing my choices, after being yelled at, and running the risk of being shot by an assassin, or ambushed by a soldier, or my knees being the baseball in a ball game, if I upgraded my avatar, I decided to let sleeping dogs lie and keep my avatar the same So that's why this client doesn't upgrade his avatar LOL RG :-)

Last night, CBC's "The National" aired a disturbing story regarding how various strains of bacteria are now becoming resistant to antibiotics including strains of gonorrhea. The World Health Organization is becoming quite alarmed by this and are cautioning health professionals to not over prescribe antibiotics, but it appears the damage has all ready been done as strains of bacteria are becoming known as "super-bacteria's." So, in light of this, could it be possible that BBBJ's by Sp's may become a thing of the past as it could be too dangerous for them to offer this service especially if there isn't a cure for a super strain of gonorrhea? I know there are some Sp's who are not comfortable providing this service to begin with, but feel they must do so in order to remain competitive. So, what do you think CERB community about this?

Am I the only one who feels that the general level of dialogue in the forums has degenerated over the last year or so? I mean, I know we're all adults here, and all here to discuss very adult things, but it seems as though there has been a slide towards coarser and more vulgar language, to the point of it being almost offensive. I'm definitely not some kind od shrinking violet, and I have no problem with a certain degree of vulgarity. My favorite authors are some of the most disgusting writers, in a strangely eloquent way (Warren Ellis). But frequently reading customers referring to dancers and SPs as "pussy," and reading more and more ads titled along the lines of "cum let me stroke your fat cock until you soak my tits and pussy like a cum canvas" make me wonder if this is really how we would want the industry represented to outsiders. Just a thought.

I always say that nerves, anxiousness and those butterflies kicking around in the belly show that something is really important. I know that when I am meeting someone new or reconnecting with someone I have seen a dozen times, nerves mean that I want to do right by them, ya know what I am saying?

Yes :) both sides are responsible, but I think it hypocritical, but yet their choice;) for anyone to allow one and not the other/others. But that's just how I see it. My next doctors appt is next week and I'll be taking my docs advice on how I should and will approach this. I personally believe it is best to not allow any exchange of saliva when providing to be as safe as possible. That's not to say that's how I provide or will provide, that is between me and my partner at the time:)

This isn't actually true. If you're HIV+ it can take 10 years for AIDS to develop, but the window period for HIV testing is much, much shorter than that. With modern HIV testing, EIA gen 4 which includes p24 antigen and antibody testing, or NAT which tests for HIV RNA, the window period is 14 days. Gen 3 EIA testing, which only tests for antibodies (this includes point of care/rapid tests that give you your results in 5 minutes) has a window period of 34 days for 95% of people, and 3 months for the rest. The window period might be as long as 6 months for an antibody test if you are immunocompromised or if you've been on pre- or post-exposure prophyaxis, but these are unusual circumstances. Being aware of window periods is important but you definitely do not need to worry about HIV infection being undetectable by tests for years. http://www.catie.ca/en/hiv-canada/5 http://smartsexresource.com/health-providers/blog/201308/understanding-window-periods-hiv-tests

You could always omit using a word to describe "it" and just say you are a lover of oral and a pleaser ;) Her are some suggestions. Some sweeter than others: Pink swell Lotus Love flower Love tulip, Flower bud Marisopa (butterfly) Moist tenderness Fountain of pleasure Pleasure portal Fleshy secret Honey well Sugar basin Velvet glove Curve of her thighs Jewel between her legs Naughty bits Miss Kitty Juicy Jane Pink bunny Yoni Wha-gee-na Lower cleavage Snake charmer Rocket pocket ;)

http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/girl-next-doordynamic-encounter-24/1726374 She defiantly does not match the pictures posted in her add.

For me, anyone that i can recognize when calling. I remember everyone i see, so even one repeat doesn't really count. I see some people once a year. Or they come back after working out of town/country for 2 years, or whatever. Still a regular even at once a year, or 3 time a year even. to me anyway.

I hear ya! I think I am probably the "prudest" hooker on site! LMAO... No for real, I hear ya! I consider myself a lady while at work or not ( NO insult for the ladies who are R rated!) . In my personal life I am extremely conservative and even in my professional persona, I am still conservative in my advertising style, pics and communication. BUT once we meet me, then all goes wild! Never sure if this helps my cause or hurts it, but either way... I am just me! And will not change what I feel is comfortable for a trend... But the ones who pull it off, WOW you do it well!!! xoxoox THANKS FOR THIS THREAD!

Great thread again Delilah... And you're absolutely right...I still get those jitters myself. Specially touring to a knew place and knowing I will be meeting new gents. I want to make a good impression and make sure they wear a smile from the moment they walk in to the moment we exchange goodbye kisses! So gentlemen...you are not alone :) I just want to had a special note here to Delilah :) Thank you for your beautiful well written posts! Everyone of them are a real delight to read...always well spoken with a hint of sexyness... Thanks again! Bianca xxx

I'm all for BBBJ's, Daty, specially kissing, I also accept and respect whichever SP I'm with decision to be covered or not. Not to insult any party either SP or Patron but the old saying goes, Buyer Beware. Again no insult meant as I am one as well. Do you wash your hands after going to the washroom, I do. It is just one step in personal hygiene.

I wanted to add-I think a man referring to a woman as "pussy" is quite different than a provider writing a graphic ad. Calling a woman "pussy" is disrespectful and rude and does define ones character, imo. Where writing a graphic ad to sell sex is a way to attract business and a certain type of clientele. Some will like it some won't. Some will find it arousing, some won't. I certainly don't think it shines a bad light on the business though. Talking dirty isn't a sign of having or not having, class, intelligence or any other ability, nor does it define ones character. I think those who are opposed to this industry aren't going to swayed more if the ad above read: I invite you to relish in my beauty and explore my sensual talents. Dressed up or down an ad, explicit or not, is selling the same thing:)

Since I'm not a subtle person perhaps I just don't notice:) I've been here since 2011 and I haven't noticed any changes, but then again I don't pay much attention to others ads and I only look at threads that I find interesting or ones I feel I could add to. My writings/ads/posts and threads vary from explicit to somewhat conservative. They sometimes are expressions of my moods and feelings but certainly don't define who I am or how much class I have or don't have or anyone has for that matter. This is a forum where there are a multitude of personalities selling and searching for sex so I think it should be expected to see x rated to prim and if someone is sensitive to explicit language this may not be the place for them. After all a lot of these ads are written in fun, with a desire to peek interest, arouse and stimulate, certainly not to offend:) and if they do ignore them and read the ones you like:)

Yes!!! Work completed on a property finally!! Despite weather, and delays the finished product is awesome, I think I should get into interior decorating! Plus the sun is out and it's 21 degrees Hmmm time for a beer??

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Great Thread Delilah.... i have thought about my jitters before meeting a lady before but never really thought about it from her perspective. First from my perspective I am nervous and have jitters every time I go see a lady... i am 54.... not exactly a stud.... my mind conjures up exotic activities from time to time that my physical body just can't always deliver on. For the most part I have always seen myself as an older guy meeting with beautiful sexy ladies who, in my mind anyway, will have had many sexual interludes with guys way more talented than me. So when I go to that meeting with a sexy lady that I have checked out and booked I certainly don't want to leave her less than fulfilled. Yea...i know it's a business and all that but I come from a school of thought that the best sex I will have is when it is good sex for both parties. From the ladies perspective in the past I have always felt that the first meeting with a new client must make the lady nervous.... but oddly I really only thought they would be nervous because of the risk they take in putting themselves out there to meet privately with a guy they really know very little about. I never really gave much thought to the fact that the SP might also be nervous about...will he like me.... will I meet his expectations.... will I be able to live up to the idealized vision that he may have from the ads and website and posts. Of course it makes sense that this nervousness would exist.... just that all the amazing ladies I have met from here on CERB have always far exceeded my expectations. So bottom line.... it appears we are all nervous and get the jitters all I can think is that it is a good thing.... it makes us focus.... it makes us pay attention.... it heightens our desire to please the person we are with and results in amazing meetings. So I say bring on the jitters. BTW.... i don't think this jitters thing is just related to 1st meetings.... my meetings with SP'S with whom I have long-standing frequent meetings cause me the same nervous jitters... in fact.... even greater performance anxiety... i know how amazing she i... not just imagine so the pressure is on. Finally I will just say that I am a realist.... nope can't do all the things I could do when I was 25 but i do do most of them better than I did when I was 25. in the end my only concern about performance would be if the lady I was with did not think I did everything within my power to make her happy during the session.... i will never guarantee success but i will guarantee you will get the full effort from me. As for you wonderful ladies relax.... we are going to have a great time :)

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I don't think I'll ever get over the shyness, nervousness, for first time meetings. Most of it comes from not wanting to mistakenly, and innocently, do something that would make the lady uncomfortable. Yes, things are discussed (usually) before hand, but it's still very much like a first date. :) This site helps a lot, though. Not to pick on Sophia, but since she posted I'll use her as an example. I've been wanting to meet her for quite sometime, but haven't had the pleasure as of yet. If, and when, we finally do, I'll be more relaxed than usual because we've been interacting a fair amount on here. Anyway, thanks for the thread. Nice hear thoughts "from the other side". :)

I sense a little sarcasm in your reply and that's your right. All I meant if you had a concern about her in that regard I personally would have pm'd her and asked. I say this because as we all well know certain agencies in HRM are known to be scammers , bait and switch , etc etc. I just felt your post would make some hobbiests nervous....you know guilt by association kind of thing. Anyways my post wasn't meant to criticize , just my opinion and like your right to yours I respect that.

Being indy or not is a private matter? I never knew that. Sorry boomer, wont make this mistake again. Now I know.

Hmmm sorry Ice4fun...back to OP lol... I got a few request for school girl. outfit..yep who would have known at 52 :D But mostly its lingerie, heels or...just heels in my BD suit :D BJ

Yes a flower, and nothing like helping the flower cum to a full bloom. :)

Muffin! And Do you know the muffin men, the muffin men... lol Agree flower is nice, but muffin fav ;)

Hmmmm for me all of my best sessions with service providers gave started with mental foreplay long before we meet.... those amazing exchanged texts that say nothing but also say everything.... that sexy picture sent preceeding the meeting.... the few words shared over the phone as we finalize the details of the encounter...the tweets or pms that explore our thoughts... our wishes.... our passion.... yea the foreplay fir me starts early Just my opinion

In my personal life, foreplay begins with words... I love reading erotic stories and poetry. An individual who can get me wet with a text message far exceeds the cunnilingus expert, in my books. The brain is the most powerful sex organ, and as such, the person who can tickle my imagination is the one who will ignite the fire in my nether regions. I find that often, foreplay is akin to that first bite of a great meal. The taste lingers on your palate for the entire duration and colours your perception from that moment on. Foreplay is as potent as the silence before a standing ovation, auspicious as the 'pop' of a lid of fresh jam on a summer's morning, fleeting as the warmth on your cheek from a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. I live for those great, vivid, detailed descriptions of someone's fantasy, and I in turn relish in the thought of someone becoming aroused simply by reading my words. My best and most memorable sexual experiences are those that have been preceded by an extended exchange of messages depicting our desires. The reality does not always, and in fact, rarely lives up to the expectations set in the realm of dreams, but like that first bite of food, the foreplay allows me to perceive an otherwise purely physical experience as divine and transcendent, if only in memory. (PLEASE! Don't take this as a suggestion to send me explicit PMs, they will be ignored)

Sexy! Foreplay is the delicious dance between two erotically connected very stimulated partners that eludes to many carnal pleasures. For me it can be titillating conversation with flirty glances that invite him to touch me, or giving him light sensual kisses while my hands explore and massage his inner thighs and lightly brush against his hardening cock. It can be a sensual massage allowing me to explore all of his body or whispers in his ear telling him what I want to do to him and him to me. Foreplay can last seconds, minutes or sometimes doesn't happen at all. It is different from partner to partner and when their is chemistry, foreplay is like eating dessert before the meal, it's divine and yummy.

All I can say is with the ladies on CERB, whatever they wear is sexy ;-) The ladies make the clothes special, not the other way around Whatever a lady wears to an encounter, as long as she is comfortable, I'm happy RG :-)

I am new here. I am reminded that this is an open forum. From what I have seen, there is a wide range of types and personalities on both sides. Conservative may work for one, raunchy with the other, and sometimes opposites attract! I find the "p" term revolting. While we are at it, as a new person, "hobbyist" is better suited to pimply teenage boys building model airplanes. "Provider" sounds like they're selling tv/internet bundles in the mall. Who dreams this stuff up, anyway? :smile:

I am not sure I have recognized any major shift in the tone of the threads here on CERB Over the last year. I have seen some ads that have tended to be more blunt ( Some might say vulgar) but i have to think that these SP'S are doing whatever seems to work for them. On the flip side I have seen some amazing ads written by people like Nathalie and Delilah and others that are just written master pieces from my perspective. Bottom line it's an open forum so people will express themselves in many ways and use language that best meets their needs.... there will be an ebb and flow... flow along with he things you like and ignore the rest there is room for all of us I think. Just my opinion.

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I'm wearing my devilish business attire today. Black suit, blood red dress shirt, no tie.

Wishing you a very Happy Birthday Cleo!

I would prefer that members with question marks would change their avatar, but members that already have a personal avatar keep them. I identify active members by their avatar and my small brain may become confuse by any change. I acquired mine from the darebear and changed it up a bit. I use to give a little darebear to girlfriends to snuggle with when I was away. There is a little twist in the name.

first of all I think Amanda 32g has been on bp forever...and i'm pretty sure I have already read a post on her before.I don't see how posting every single name on bp asking whos seen her is of any use.If u don't wanna be in a "bad situation" there tons of ladies to choose from with positive reviews. People who play the "keyboard toughguy" I will never respect.Real men don't deal with problems by name calling.just that simple!! enjoy the hobbying!!

Hopefully this does not sound rude . I only grant 30 minute appointments to gents that I am very familiar with and we both understand that there is a very good reason for this. That's all good and fair, we all have circumstances and its every lady's prerogative to meet this or not. I am very generous with my time especially at home when time permits but a big light goes off in my head when a 30 minute appointment is requested. As a new SP I accepted this but quickly realized this was just a way for some to pay for 30 minutes and try to stay for more. Sorry unless you are a very established and regular friend I bet a lot of lades feel the same. If you are granted a 30 minute visit I suggest you are ready to leave at the end of the agreed time. Just my opinion of course .

Best wishes sweetness. Have a purrfectly wonderful day. xxxO

Happy birthday beautiful.

Happy birthday, Cleo, and best wishes!

This is just me -- I am sure some people may be into that sort of thing. I prefer focusing on the lady with little or no distractions. After all, she is the one I am there to see. Porn is very expensive when you consider everyone has different tastes. Perhaps investing in sexy outfits or soft cuffs, or blindfold, or feather duster, or small vibrating toy, might be a better choice. Good vibrations and all that... Just an idea....

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday Sexy girl :) xoxoxox Hope your day is going great :)

Making and confirming an 3hr date for 4am the day before. Getting up showering and preparing and traveling to Halifax. Texting for the sp location once downtown. Calling after receiving no reply. Realizing you have been stood up. Priceless!! Please don't pm me. Not planning on releasing any names. Things happen for a reason. Like working hard and falling asleep. Good thing is I'm at work 4 hours early. .... lol Editing: 0520hrs..... relizing that last night wasn't Tuesday (as I look at my calender). Last night I made two appointments, one for "morning" & one for "Thursday" evening. Today is Thursday! ! .... I double booked my days. Again this has turned into a good thing. It seems I'm posting in the wrong post!! .... lol. ... Although being stood up does suck! !

Opinion of a guy - what Erin and cmj are posting is the way things always have been and will be unfortunately. But it really is a parallel to life outside the massage service world. Guys that are rude , creepy and gross that don't know how to treat women in the 9-5 world never get laid or have a happy partner either. A key word is respect too. If guys would figure out that the girls workings as MAs don't look at a dude and say..oh I want him sticking his fingers in me right now. Ha. You pay for fantasy but these girls are real people too. Treat them like the beautiful hard working ladies they are. They have to protect their hygiene and bodies too as it is their livelihood and they need a comfort factor. Erin and cmj keep up the high standards as I have personal experience with both. When I'm done a session I know I feel fantastic and the girl feels she met a decent , clean guy that made her day better not worse. That's my two cents... jerks like that and others I think MAs should just give me a swift kick in the balls. What will they do...go home and tell their wives.