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Hey all Cerbies, How I have been missing this wonderful place called Cerb. I have been getting PM and messages and emails from friends on here and it is heart warming to see how some people I have never met miss me on here. Hope everyone is doing well and that I will be returning to this place more frequently soon. For everyone that I have missed a birthday or a congrats this is my chance to do so for now, hope you all enjoy your summer, if it can get here. Hugs and kisses to all the ladies, NJ

A great big hug! Awesome way to break the ice! Besides...aren't all of those butterflies one of the great parts of meeting new people?

My initial thought to the question was 'of course she should be herself!'. But I don't think it's as simple as that. I think her online presence should be true to herself. I literally saw someone just because of a very different approach to how she advertised, and I liked that about her. I think that being someone else might attract people you wouldn't normally like to be with, even in a professional capacity (but I say this without any experience on the other side). But in person, it's a bit harder. In a different field that I work in, I have my own set of clients, some that I absolutely love, and some that I'm not that fond of. I do feel myself going through the motions (smiling, complimenting, etc) when my client is not someone I probably wouldn't get along with outside work, and to those clients, they deserve that version of me. It would be hypocritical for me to say that all SPs should only be themselves with a client, and not put on a show, because in the end of the day, this is a method of income, and to risk it for some idealized notion is not realistic in my opinion.

Am I the only one who feels that the general level of dialogue in the forums has degenerated over the last year or so? I mean, I know we're all adults here, and all here to discuss very adult things, but it seems as though there has been a slide towards coarser and more vulgar language, to the point of it being almost offensive. I'm definitely not some kind od shrinking violet, and I have no problem with a certain degree of vulgarity. My favorite authors are some of the most disgusting writers, in a strangely eloquent way (Warren Ellis). But frequently reading customers referring to dancers and SPs as "pussy," and reading more and more ads titled along the lines of "cum let me stroke your fat cock until you soak my tits and pussy like a cum canvas" make me wonder if this is really how we would want the industry represented to outsiders. Just a thought.

Well maybe I will go see her guys but I'm not permitted to write a recco so someone better move on this.... :biggrin:

I only really have one wish... to have back someone Iost 6 years ago... don't need anything else.

I have a lot of foot fetish clients. I really enjoy it. I find foot massages intensely pleasurable, and licking and sucking also feels very nice. The power dynamics can also be lots of psychological fun too.

First, let me say that everyboby can run their business as they see fit; each lady can represent themselves in the way she chooses and do what works for her. On the other hand, this might not be a popular opinion and has the potential to offend some (not my intention) and I will try to do my best to explain my feelings in the most eloquent way posssible--in English; I do feel like these types of very explicit ads only add to the stigma and many stereotypes this industry (and the ladies themselves) have to face on a day-to-day basis and does nothing to cast a positve light on SPs and simply reinforces what is already perceived as a negative. Take this with a grain of salt because this is just MY opinion and I'll say it again, to each their own.

I agree with Scribbles completely!! I have seen many pictures of girls, and then when I see them in person they don't look any thing like their photo's... Most of us girls get our pictures professionally done, and the photographer and the lady both focus on the best attributes; which is completely understandable but it can be a bit of a let down when the client comes in expecting what he saw in the pictures and the lady looks nothing like that.... That's why I always try to make sure that my pictures are a true glimpse of what I look like, I have small boobs but Im not afraid to show that in my pictures; that way no one is surprised when they come in to see me and see that my boobs are smaller...

I agree 100% about the Hug.... and not just a quick squeeze... a firm embrace where for that first few minutes our bodies connect and there is an instant feeling of being welcome..... it's one of my favorite moments of an encounter. Just my opinion

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A hug and a great kiss is always a good start, and end :) Nervousness is great for both, the anticipation of what is going to happen next is certainly a thrill for me, even when it's the 5th time that I have been together with the gentleman. You never really get to know someone totally even after many get-togethers, so for me, a kiss and a hug always is a great ice-breaker.

I agree with Jafo here, if we at least know which province you are in, it may help narrow down the parameters a little more. When you give a message to general discussion - all of Canada, no one knows where you are located, and may recommend someone to you that is across the country from you. Lots of ladies will have listed on their websites what their passions are, all you have to do is look into your local area to find ladies that enjoy what your passions are. happy hunting (oops, I have an 'unfriendly smiley on this, and it shouldn't be there and have no idea on how to remove it, my apologies)

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Actually that initial meeting with a new service provider and the inherent nervous awkwardness can heighten the experience in my opinion... for me it is not a negative. As for what to do... just power through.. when that do opens step in and hug that amazing lady who has welcome you in to her world... a long hug and a passionate kiss is all i usually need to settle in for the session. Just my opinion

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I myself have a couple of reasons, but one is similar to the above. I want to know who I am talking to, and who i am giving the info to. This is also why i won't 'put it in writing' so to speak, so not in pms, texts or emails. Gender, sobriety, and sincerity are far more obvious in a phone conversation, to me, and is how i screen. If the person doesn't sound right, there is no need to proceed. Not having $$ in the ads means they have to call, and that gives me insight into them. Also, many many many ad posting sites prohibit posting services, therefore there is no point in posting rates that are based on those services. Maybe the sp can post 'rates start at 100" but typically, according to the rules of the majority of ad sites out there, they can't post rates for FS, bjs, half hour FS GFE, or whatever combination of things. The fact that some sps do post all that info is neither here nor there if the sp in question is a rule follower, and/or has had ads deleted (paid for ads) due to breaking the rules. she is unlikely to continue to break the rules, she would rather have the ad up, and risk someone being too nervous to contact her for the info. And if you are too nervous to contact just to ask about a rate, then are you going to be too nervous to show up after booking an appt? Because skittish clients are not fun if they don't show up lol. So don't dismiss the ones who don't post a rate. Let's face it, there are a lot of rates posted in ads. Rates do NOT vary significantly, not enough that it matters that much if someone you call is not going to be more than 20-50 different than the ad rates you've already seen. Don't let a price decide for you who to see either, there are a lot of factors that make one sp more attractive than another, but personally to me if someone is only choosing me because my rate is 20 less than the other 10 sps ads he's seen, then that is not the guy I want to see. I want the guy who sees the ad, talks to me, and then decides that even tho my rate is 20 higher than the other 10 ads he saw, he still wants to take a chance on coming to see me. Based on who i am and what i offer, and our conversation.

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I've heard several people refer to "judgment," and just want to clarify that I am in no way trying to judge anyone. As many have expressed, I don't read what doesn't interest me, for the most part, so if someone feels the need to post a highly explicit ad, fill your boots! I think why I brought up this subject was because it seems more prevalent now than a couple years ago to see explicit ads, so I am curious as to why there has been a shift in paradigms. Also, I have noticed a bit of an increase in rougher language used by clients when discussing the women or their visits with them. So, again as another has alluded, the question is whether the explicit ads have similarly attracted or brought about a change in clients. Chicken, or egg? Again, I'm not judging. To each their own. I just find, as a recent poster put it, that we predominantly want this "hobby" represented as time for money, and the language that is being used more frequently makes it hard for the abolitionist "holes to fill" propaganda to be discredited. There's nothing here being done against CERB rules, but maybe that isn't the point?

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Weekly poker tournament sound amazing. I don't know how well I'll be able to keep my poker face though lol. Another suggestion that was made in a different thread was jello/oil/pudding wrestling... I think that would be an awesome idea. My two cents :-)

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I am thinking some poor guy at Pizza Pizza is going to be asked how much is Greek, and how much is BBBJ....lol.

Angie, you have up-scaled the massage experience and your respect for the ladies speaks well. Thank you. I was going to go the other night and none of the girls I knew was working. For a split second the thought was there - be great to check things out - but realized it would feel weird for the girls and I. The pictures you have are sufficient and the recommendations help too.

Although Dorinda seems to be the only lady who actually lives in the area, there are other ladies who pass through/tour there on occasion. I plan on taking a trip to northern Ontario this summer and will most likely stop in Pembroke as I make my way to Timmins. I suggest you use the Search function to search on the word "Pembroke" and that should pick up any ads of ladies' who are touring there. Since there is no separate city listing for Pembroke, most would likely advertise under the Ottawa section. I would highly recommend you consider Dorinda Bloom who is a well reco'd courtesan. She's not only beautiful, but a real sweetie too!

The WHO's recent report isn't really talking about the same thing as the latest headline-grabbing bug. Things like SARS, H1N1 and now MERS will inevitably crop up every so often, and we just have to deal with them when they do. What the WHO is talking about is the unfortunate coincidence of two things: the gradual evolution of drug-resistant pathogens, and the fact that there's very little research into new antibiotics. The first is more-or-less inevitable, but the second isn't. it's an unfortunate consequence of the fact that pharmaceutical companies exist to make money, and these days the money is not in treating infectious disease; it's in treating the chronic diseases of the affluent West. If you invent a drug that cures MRSA then you can sell it to a patient that will take it for a few days or weeks and then stop because they're cured, but if you invent a drug that reduces cholesterol you can get decades of continuous revenue from each patient.... and so that's precisely what happens. The WHO is saying, "this needs to change, and here's why". There's no deadline... yet. There will never be a sudden moment when this becomes a huge issue. It'll just get worse and worse and worse, until we realize that we have a major problem on your hands. Of course, the real threat is of something evolving that's as deadly as HIV or ebola and as infectious as the common cold. When that happens, there's a good chance that Homo sapiens will become extinct, as so many other species have done before.

I like mine, it depicts the type of guy I am, and it's one of my "several" favourite sex positions plus I've had since inception of avatars. It will remain with me until my time is up here.;)

It is good to have an end to journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end. -- Ursula Le Guin A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving -- Lao Tzu OK, so those quotes are out of context... but nevertheless, I think they're relevant.

Right on. I have used a Mac for 25 years and have never understood why people have lived with many, many Internet Explorer insecurities over the years. If you must use a PC, get a Firefox browser.

It was very easy to change my avatar picture, 30 seconds to search google, and ten seconds to upload it. I don't see the point of not having your own avatar, it makes it easier to spot people's posts, it distinguishes you and sets you apart from other people. Who wants to be a boring question mark, when you can be anything else? you could be a celebrity, a car, a beach, a drink, favorite tv/movie/game character, anything.

Okay, good point... it's time for a change.

I kinda like mine. I do sometimes change my Cub look to coincide with the seasons. Might be time soon.

Actually, the avatar is a picture of Autoroute 50. I chose that one because I drive so much. :)

I don't ever mention donations in my ad but of course its always clear on my site. If gentleman take the time to view my website its only courteous to have my donation known. Why it could be $200 or $500 and that is a big window. As an advertiser I believe we should all have out rates clear on our websites. Some will differ but I like the straight forward approach.

Well my avatar is of John Malkovich, only because I've been told by a few ladies I look like him...don't see it myself, but who am I to argue with them I kind have taken a liking to the avatar, plus the two images on my profile page, so I guess I'm keeping them, and not updating them unless something else strikes my fancy RG

I absolutely understand the shyness and it can be a formidable challenge in the beginning. You probably won't have to ask for rates just because they aren't posted on an ad, all you have to do is initiate the contact. If a provider has chosen not to post her rates, she's prepared to share them long before you arrive at her door. I send an introduction with all the pertinent details along with my website information to every potential guest who sends an email that consists of actual words instead text abbreviations or the infamous one liner emails. What I seek in a guest is a gentleman who actually "gets" what I bring to the table which is a willingness to engage and communicate on every level with my guests. I don't expect men to read all the details of my ads because they usually focus on certain aspects while glossing over others. I want guests to ask questions so I can answer clearly; presenting what I offer that makes an experience with me unique and what I expect from a potential paramour. I appreciate the dialogue and the opportunity to find out more about a potential encounter so I can assess if we are a good fit. The most important thing to me is that we are on the same page with expectations and anticipations. For me, not posting my consideration is an invitation to engage. If I put out all the juicy bits, the only thing left is for a guest to chose a dat and time but I find guests often want an opportunity to get a feel for the woman behind the pictures. We all know this is an industry based on fantasy but the very best guests for me are the men who want a woman who is herself, comfortable in her skin and who enjoys her career. These men want the opportunity to get to know me a bit before they make their decision and being able to ask a question is an excellent way to break the ice... cat Additional Comments: Warped88, I'm so sorry, I'm not sure how that smilie got on there! I apologize, I don't think you're a wanker and I can't edit it... cat

I've not seriously considered this question from the provider's point of view. So, every reason stated here makes absolute sense. Just from my point of view as a client, I'm typically shy upon first contact and asking for rates is something still new and a little uncomfortable for me. That said, I have no issues if someone doesn't do so.: You know, I gotta be a man sometimes and just ask. ;) However, simply because of my nature, I'm VERY appreciative of those who do and even more appreciative of those who take the time to maintain a great website. It makes first contact much smoother. So, thanks. :) Anyway....

All you have to do is pm the lady for her rates and details. Some just prefer to discuss their business in private nothing.wrong with that

The reasons will probably be as varied as the providers. One reason might be because the sp feels it more discrete to discuss them one on one. I post my rates on my site but seldom do I in my ads. I want men to view my site before they book with me. After all, the point of setting up a site is to inform potential clients of my rates. services, how best to contact me and a little insight into my personality. So prior to contacting me they'll be informed. It does seem lately though an effort for a lot of men to take a minute to read , lol. In the end every sp advertises in her own special way, frustrating or not, she/he has chosen to do it for their reasons, which are important to them, so they should be respected. I have one service that I'll only give the rate via phone. I'm picky about who I offer this service to and want to speak to the potential client first. I prefer this for all my services, as talking to someone can give you much more insight than an email or text, imo. So inconvenient or not this is the way I want it:)

Penelope, you are beautiful and give of yourself. A certificate means nothing because if you look at what it says, it is limited. Learning, growing and providing a genuine service is what's important. If you approach things with pleasure and enjoyment in mind and begin to hone your techniques, the paper won't matter. I say go for it and with the same enthusiasm you do everything. It can only add to what you have already established.

I think the Conservative government would really rather not legislate on this issue. This reminds me of the hysterical reaction last year when there was a technical issue on dealing with gay divorce and all the opponents of the Conservatives jumped on the issue and claimed that the Conservatives were just itching to abolish gay marriage. Instead, the issue fizzled mere hours later when the government announced that the laws would be updated to encompass gay marriages. Harper isn't interested in promoting conservative issues, as he's shown again and again with the abortion issue, gay marriage, etc. He is interested in winning elections. Coming down with heavy legislation won't do that--it will just appeal to the Conservative base, who would vote Conservative no matter what.