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I have had the pleasure of the company of several TS providers. I can say with assurance that each and every one was feminine inside and out. Yes, there are some physical differences and yes those differences vary from person to person. I also find women attractive. In fact, I consider myself pan-sexual with a strong preference for women. If the OP's intention is to pursue a strictly sexual relationship, then by (bi) all means indulge. We live in incredible times. Twenty or thirty years ago, it would have been difficult or impossible to live out a TS fantasy. Today, opportunities abound and with sites like Cerb, research is possible. If the intent is to follow a personal and emotional relationship, then do so with your eyes wide open. As previous posters have said, TS/TG face numerous daily challenges ranging from prejudice to health issues. It is important to both parties if you enter into an emotional relationship, you do so with honest intent. TS/TG members of our society deserve no less respect and care as any other member.

Eh, depends on who you ask. Some people use transgender and transsexual interchangably. Others see a conceptual difference, though may not all agree on that difference. In my experience, there's often a generational gap in how the language gets used, with older trans people identifying as transsexual and younger trans people identifying more as transgender, regardless of surgical status. People who are not interested in surgery or hormones or who identify outside the gender binary (something other than a man or a woman) often prefer transgender over transsexual. Language is a complicated and nuanced topic that's always under debate and shifting within trans communities. I would always say, don't make any assumptions about a person's body or surgeries based on how their identify, and always respect a person's self identity. Best is to ask what pronouns are appropriate to use with a person, but as a general rule, you should never call a trans woman "he" or "it", and if you're not able to ask, "she" is probably the most respectful assumption to make. This depends on so many different factors, such as your perceptiveness, what type of surgery she's had, how her healing process went, what you might believe is the normal range of variation for vulvas... Surgical techniques for constructing a vagina and vulva are very, very good these days. Often you would never be able to tell that there had been any surgery. You really can't know, unless the people you've been with have told you. A lot of people have an idea in their head of what a trans person looks like, but like with cis people, trans people run the gamut from very feminine to very masculine, and aligning very closely or not at all with mainstream standards of beauty. I know trans women who look like magazine models and I know cis women who naturally grow beards. We get a lot of narrow messages about what makes a person a woman or a man, but in reality, we are all so diverse that there is no one set of defining features that can externally define a person. (Cis just means not trans. So if when you were born they said, "It's a boy!" and you now identify as a man, you're cis. Same deal for baby girls who are now women. It's more respectful to say cis than natural born or real. :))

Since you mention pursuing a relationship, it sounds like you are interested in maybe dating this woman, and that she's not a sex worker (or at least you're not meeting her as a sex worker, and maybe you don't know what she does for a living)? So, my comments are based on that assumption - my apologies if it's incorrect, though this should be mostly relevant either way. First, I think it's really important to remember that trans women are women. They may have different bits than you're used to on women, but that doesn't make them any less real women. Like having sex with cis women (cis means not trans), sex with trans women is going to be a unique encounter each time - sex is a dynamic that's created by two people together. It's okay to feel unsure - the important thing is to communicate a lot. Ask her how she likes to be touched and what language she likes when talking about her body. Some trans people have a lot of dysphoria that can be triggered by certain words or being touched in certain ways, so just use your words. If she has a penis, it may or may not get hard. A lot of trans women who have been on estrogen for a while don't get erections any more, without the aid of Viagra or other meds. She also may or may not ejaculate still. She may be a top or a bottom or versatile - definitely something to talk about. Roles may not be quite as easy to assume as they would be with a cis woman. A lot of straight sex between two cis people often defaults to penis in vagina sex without a lot of discussion. You should expect to talk a little bit more about what kinds of sex you two will have, and maybe you'll need to have a broader idea of what counts as sex, beyond putting your cock in a hole (or maybe you won't.) I think it's also really important to think about the experiences trans women have. Like all women, there's a real risk of violence at the hands of men, but in addition to male violence against women, they also have to content with transphobic violence. Recognize that she's taking a big risk with her safety by meeting a stranger off the internet, honour any safety measures she decides to take and be extremely respectful of her boundaries. Trans women are murdered all the time simply because people are uncomfortable with their attraction to them or because people can't see them as human beings. Call her by the name she gives you and use the pronouns she uses for herself (most likely she & her). I'd recommend reading this guide and checking out some other resources, so that when you meet, you can just focus on being your best self: http://www.autostraddle.com/getting-with-girls-like-us-a-radical-guide-to-dating-trans-women-for-cis-women-160269/ Be awesome, be kind and be okay with not knowing everything (but be willing to listen and learn!) Absolutely. Trans women are women, and no matter what she has between her legs now, or in the future, doesn't change that. Dating or having sex with a trans person doesn't change your sexual orientation in any way - if you're a straight guy who's attracted to women, and you find a trans woman hot, well hey, you just met another woman that you find attractive. :)

Please join me in bidding Carrie Moon farewell as she is leaving Ottawa this week to move to the Niagara region. Carrie was one of the first escorts I met back in 2002 when I decided to get back into the business as an indy. She has been a source of inspiration and generosity. She has often gone beyond the call of duty to help me and other ladies in this industry. I will miss her. (Thank goodness for technology). Note: Some people were asking me if Carrie is retiring. Just to be perfectly clear - NO Carrie is NOT retiring, simply moving!

Hi everyone, I see many ladies here who post their traveling dates weeks, even a month to a month and a half in advance....and sometimes, only few days in advance. Personally, I like to advertise within 2 weeks or 1 week prior to my arrival. I'd like to inquire for myself and other ladies, gentlemen, how much advance notice you need when someone visits your city ? Would you prefer to be notified way in advance (to mark up your calendar and be prepared) or a short notice is enough ? Is there an ideal time for you ? Please do let me know. Thanks in advance! :) Eva

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You'll just have to go fishing instead of golfing Pete !!! This would be a good catch ? ;)

Today's weather in Ottawa.....f-ing rain!!!!!

you know what's super awesome? there is finally a subsection for "fun" threads that are completely not industry related ... I get that some of you love them but they were really clogging up the discussion section and some of us only come here to the "general discussions" area for discussions (go figure lol) ... and they were becoming increasingly difficult to find!! Thanks to whoever thought of that!! :D

I did :icon_razz: The only thing I can conclude from the single, much smaller data-point was given as a comparison is that the author wants the reader to believe the response to this one was very large. This may or may not bear any relation to where it actually stands in comparison to consultations in general... which was why I asked.

Can we please stop with the insults and assumptions? As fortunateone pointed out, stating "420 friendly" does not necessarily mean that the provider herself partakes. Personally, I find it inappropriate that one provider is commenting on another provider's ad. Whether you agree with this woman's choice or not, publicly deriding another worker on a public forum is in bad taste and comes across as trying to cut out competition. Focus on yourself, and stop with the judgmental comments.

Hello everyone, I am new to the site, but not to the industry. I live in the US and have been an avid traveler around the States. I'm now starting to expand my wings outside of the country; I was last week in Saskatchewan. I find this board to be very helpful and wish we have something like it at home; where positive reinforcement and kindness are emphasized. I am happy to be here and I hope to learn more. Thank you!

Hey ladies what is a major turn off when someone is looking to book a time with you ? One thing I absolutely hate is when someone texts me and says....What's up? Like really lol that will not grab my attention First impressions mean everything and I prefer a gentlemen being respectful and courteous when inquiring about my ......... For an example; Hello how are you or Hi I am .... and I am interested in knowing more about you and your ........!......so much better

I know what you mean, I was kinda in a friends with benefits relationship not long ago, and I have no clue what happened, but we no longer contact each other. ive been told many times that im a nice guy, and I try to be, and this is the thanks I get???

Yes you are right because a nice guy allows the woman to cum first;)

Give Felina a shout she likes that:butt:

My great grandmother's life seemed to embarrass my grandmother to the point that we don't know much about it. I'd be more interested to find out more about what she went thru: left husband and family, moved to Canada. returned to pick up her youngest, my grandmother, left the rest with the Dad. Those kids and their kids barely knew who she was, and that includes my grandmother. Discrepancy over the marriage certificate date and the birth certificate of her youngest children (as in they thought they were 2 years younger than they really were lol), and then what happened to that guy, their Dad? And who was the last husband, not their Dad, and where did he go?

That sound like it could be Fibromyalgia. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Fibromyalgia/Pages/Symptoms.aspx I know what you mean about waking up to a migraine. I have been having them for a few decades now. The ones that start later in the day are a little easier to deal with and treat. than the one you wake up with. Ugh... I think I speak for most of us when I say, Your online family is here for you when you need us, RG.

Bracing myself for the onset of major things that suck Began last weekend with Mother's Day, visiting a mother and brother (and sister in law) who are now just mother and brother (and sister in law) in name only And while it's a long weekend, Sunday is the one year anniversary of Dad's last birthday...he passed away shortly thereafter Right now I really feel sort of family less RG :-(

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While I generally agree and I do post reviews... not all SP'S like the whole review process so i always ask 1st....i have been surprised at the number who have not had an interest. Just my opinion.

You're making the assumption that the client or the provider are smoking in the room. Stating 420-friendly does not necessarily imply that the provider is in contact with someone smoking pot; it may be that if someone shows up under the influence of marijuana, that is okay with her. I don't know this lady. I am not going to make assumptions or pass judgment. Whether I agree with her personal choices or not, it's not my place to make those comments publicly.

...and I think for sure that I am gonna get bothered for something.. that I had nothing to do with. Little did I know that my boss was all about finding out what i did on my spare time... So as I was rubbing my huge natural boobs of mine all over his leg, I could feel his dick getting harder and harder by the second... So when I decided to pull his pants down.. COME IN TO SEE ME ANY TIME TODAY 3:30 - 11 PM SCHEDULE (PARADISE) WED MAY 14TH - 9 -4 (PARADISE) (ANGELS) THURSDAY MAY 15TH - 3:30-11 (ANGELS) (ANGELS) FRIDAY MAY 16 - 12-11 (ANGELS) 613-274-7073 TO BOOK OR PRIVATE MESSAGE ME MY SPECIALTY IS ENTERTAINING EVEN THE MOST DISCRIMINATING GENTLEMEN..AND I HAVE AN UNSTOPPABLE DESIRE TO GIVE AFFECTION I LOVE TO SHOW OFF MY HEAVENLY BODY..AND MAYBE YOU ARE IN THE MOOD TO ADMIRE ME.. BUT WHY STOP AT JUST THAT WHEN YOU CAN MEET ME IN PERSON, UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND SEE EVERY DETAIL IN REAL LIFE AND EXPERIENCE ME IN A WAY THAT YOU JUST CAN'T IMAGINE.. I CAN'T PROMISE YOU ANYTHING. ITS WHAT I CAN SHOW YOU THAT MATTERS. BY THE TIME WE MEET, MY PLAYFUL, CAREFREE, ATTITUDE WILL ALREADY HAVE WON YOU OVER. I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT HOW YOUNG AND TIGHT MY ENTIRE BODY IS, BUT SHOWING YOU WOULD BE BETTER. I AM IN FACT OFFERING YOU GREAT ADULT STYLE ENTERTAINMENT. CRAZY HOT WOULD BE THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE CENTURY! WHETHER YOU ARE THE GENT WHO WANTS A LITTLE TENDERNESS OR THE BIRTHDAY BOY WHO WANTS TO CELEBRATE ANOTHER GREAT YEAR OF BEING ALIVE, OR PERHAPS YOU YOU THRIVE ON NEW EXCITEMENT. I COULD TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT, BUT SHOWING YOU WOULD BE THE BEST! SCHEDULE (PARADISE) WED MAY 14TH - 9 -4 (PARADISE) (ANGELS) THURSDAY MAY 15TH - 3:30-11 (ANGELS) (ANGELS) FRIDAY MAY 16 - 12-11 (ANGELS) 613-274-7073 TO BOOK OR PRIVATE MESSAGE ME ENTERTAINMENT IN A RELAXED ENVIRONMENT

Just my opinion. But I think it is the perception that there are "too many eyes" In reality you are really just another face in the crowd, and not someone standing out. And how can room service interrupt unless room service has been called for. As for hassle getting into a hotel, could you say which one. Because that has never been my experience. BTW I've had both incalls and outcalls at major downtown Kingston hotels, four to be exact, not to mention one incall on a well known Princess Street hotel, and then two others in relatively less known hotels/motels back in my newbie days...so I draw from seven Kingston encounters from seven different companions. I add that I used to live in Kingston (I grew up there in the 70's, and worked there in the mid 80's), people I used to work with know me and my current co-workers, I have family and friends of family who live there, so I guess I could be seen by those "too many eyes" The reality is, and again, my opinion, based on my Kingston experience, well hotel experience no matter what city, is that there is more a matter of perception than reality going into a hotel...the reality is your just another client, you only stand out if you make yourself stand out. Anyhow, just my opinion RG

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Let's work backwards with what you wrote. You don't want to come across as completely ignorant. Treat her with the grace and respect you would any other woman and you're good there. Is the relationship worth pursuing? Like you said, you won't know for sure until you meet her so let's put that question on par with your chances when you meet anyone new to you. You're straight and attracted to women. Well, to put it delicately, work with what you know. And you already know what to do with a lot of her. And a lot of the experience will be just like being with another woman. Okay, enough with dancing around the elephant in the discussion. Yup, she comes with a difference (no pun intended). You can, within reason, make of that difference what you will. You may go into the evening thinking you won't really be up for dealing too much with that. As things progress, things will get hard. I mean, you might find it hard not to play there a little bit. Or a lotta bit. In my experience no woman is going to force you out of your comfort level. And in my experience, I've found the boundaries of my comfort level in this situation greatly expand as the evening progresses. All of which is a long way of saying this. You have an interest in this as demonstrated by you posing the question. Explore that interest. You might find that you actually don't have an interest worth pursuing. You might have an excellent mind blowing experience that you will thank yourself for in the morning. But most of all, you will have the satisfaction of knowing you gave it a try. There are no points awarded for that which you meant to do but never did. Good luck and enjoy!

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Just my two cents ....and i'm not an SP so i may have no idea what I am talking about but I'm not sure ths is a Quebec thing.... I think there are disrespectful guys in all parts of Canada who would never think to haggle with other service providers but think it's ok for sex industry workers... Just my opinion

Man.....it is a great ride.....and i mean that! I have met a few in my days and Lucy Bisset is one if the top ladies in the business. Go for it......you only live once Posted via Mobile Device

Well I did it. She is legit. Very petite. You can tell she is rather in experienced and shy and i would suggest out call or wait till she has a hotel room.

Here I was thinking that all the sexy CERB ladies were accepting my booking requests because of my dazzling wit, charm and personality to say nothing of my rugged handsome "Buddha like" looks but it turns out it's just because I am OLD..... lol.... sorry just could not help myself

Seen her once. Nice and friendly very attractive but not a fan my self. Pm me if you want details

"Drop the Pistol, Pete." Things were royally fun until a few moments ago. It started over something as silly as a joke over a white man and an old dog. In today's post Jabba world, after the evil Solo and his goons killed the beloved potato like creature, everyone was tense. "Put the pistol down and I'll give you a back rub man!" shouted some guy in the crowd. Cristy's curved her Excaliber over Pete. "I'll have you know that my sword is spongy and full of short cake!" Pete would've listened if he only knew that short cake was like regular cake, except it had the liquor that he hated as an ingredient. As Lady luck would have it, a cat ran in, and it was cute as a button. Both of them loved cats. All was forgotten. "Kiss, kiss, kiss!", yelled out someone watching the whole thing "Oh really mature Angela" - replied Phaedrus sarcastically.

I just absolutely hate disrespect and there is a lot of that in this Just because one person may work.a certain way doesn't mean someone else will work the same way What may be right for you may not be right and work for.someone else We all do what we feel is comfortable for us and should never be made to feel less because of what someone else may want or feel I.enjoy what I do and absolutely love.spending time with kind respectful gentlemen

Well don't know about hourly rates but some hotels near airports sometimes offer daily rates I would just check some of the hotels near the airport And just me but I would be leery of any hotel offering a hourly rate...who knows how clean it really is RG

Eva Pearl was amazing Based in mtrl i think, but comes to ottawa

Would help if you let us know where u saw the ad

what are turns offs for me? 1. sending 50 text messages asking the same dumb questions (to which the answers were, and always have been, in my website, and the reason I no longer accept text messages) 2. consistently cancelling the appointment without any notice at all (once someone has done this 3 times, I no longer book) 3. (agreeing with some of the other ladies here) aggressive gentlemen (and I use that phrase loosely here) that think I owe them something for them allowing themselves to contact me in the first place, but having to disappoint them because they didn't read my availability 4. no-shows, boy, aren't those fun! especially when I have taken the time to not do something for myself and fit the person into my personal schedule. 5. those that show up drunk/high/both! Needless to say the date doesn't continue 6. hygiene - need I say more here! 7. anyone that does not respect the boundaries that I set. For instance, I do not and never have provided greek services, its prevalent in my website. So when someone is disappointed in me, once they are in the date with me, when they realize that I'm not kidding about not providing that service, it makes me very uncomfortable. Don't ever assume that a service will be provided just because you request it, chances are that if an sp does not state its a service she provides, then it doesn't happen. 8. not having your donation ready in the manner requested (especially if you have arrived with not enough, or only enough to cover what YOU think would be considered 'right' for 1/2 hour(which I do not arrange) or thinking that a gift you bring covers you for an extra hour). 9. sending messages that just say, 'hi', or really bad messages like, 'hey babe, you available to party/fuck'. First they don't tell me anything about you, secondly they don't tell me what you are looking for and when, thirdly I rarely respond to messages such as these. 10. asking for a reduction! I find this completely unacceptable and rude. Rates are set and not up for negotiating. Just a little of what turns me off. But I have to say, of the gentlemen of Cerb that I have had the privilege of entertaining, I have had a wonderful time with and had no problems with.

As a person that is new to using a SP, and also having the disadvantage of being very shy, I find it very difficult to make initial contact. It may be very impersonal but I find it much easier to either email or text for initial contact. If I can't find the SP website I would want to ask for it to learn a much as I can before going any further. To compound matters worse I don't have a smart phone so texting is even more difficult. Don't get me wrong, I understand perfectly what is being said, but for some new customers it can be a daunting experience trying to meet an experienced SP.

Hey everyone! I've been lurking under a different name for a few years now, but finally decided to get more... involved. I'd post my own "hey I'm new" thread rather than responding here, but ... I gotta admit, I'm a bit shy! I gotta shake that off soon. :)

Spots for the gents are secured through ticket sales (covers snacks, a drink for the ladies and other related goodies). I still have a few details to finalize on my side as i'm toying with a few ideas in making the June 12th event different/better than the previous ones. I'll make an official announcement by the end of this week, or very early next week. So, keep an eye on this thread.

I agree with what the other ladies have already posted. Please understand that how you have a preference on whom you would like to visit with - WE (companions) have a preference on who we would like to spend time with. For me, I prefer 40+ I find I have a much better connection visiting with company slightly older than myself. I have personally found that the majority of younger men don't have a clue what they want and are more into a date that Im not into offering. As well I find I don't have much in common with a younger man and it leaves little to talk about, which leads to a not so much fun date. Don't get me wrong there are people I have spent time with that have been younger than that - however they have had impeccable references from ladies I know and that was the deciding factor on whether I visited with them. Keep in mind this is my opinion and no one else's. There are ladies who have no issue with age of whom they may visit with and maybe that is the route you need to go. Once you can gain some credibility from a lady who can vouch for you(with you being a gentleman and a wonderful client), that may help with getting an encounter with another lady you want to see. (please note it may not as some ladies are firm on their age requirements) Its nothing against you personally, its just what works for both parties involved. I mean do you really want to spend time with a lady who does not want to visit with you as you don't meet her requirements? That would not be a fun date.

You telling us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner only shows us that you can tell us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner. Which has nothing to do with seeing a lady. BTW encounters aren't about handling yourself Encounters are about a gentleman meeting a lady for a mutually beneficial time together Yes, in a perfect world generalizations aren't good, but ladies make their profession based on their experience dealing with people. And their experience shows them this age demographic isn't good for their business. It isn't about right or wrong, it's about the ladies do what is right for them So you have to show the lady you are a mature gentlemen, a man the lady would like to have as a client if you want to see her A rambling RG

Your asked for feedback, and started a thread which is going to elicit honest discussion and comments about the themes many of us providing sexual services experience with men seeking our services. Those themes inevitably result in generalizations to achieve a very particular task, which in this case was to unpack the various reasons why some SPs choose not to see men under a certain age. I don't see any disrespect happening here. And, if you truly feel that you exude respect and maturity, consider taking the advice graciously given here about how to tactfully approach service providers in seeking their company. Good luck! Anna

Yes, you are correct and I'm sorry if I offended any SPs who offer these appts as it was not my intent. I should have worded it differently yet my emotions got the best of me as I've had to deal with people who want them but don't bother to read my ad or tell me they only have X amount and want 15 mins.. Rest assured, I'm not someone who looks down on other providers or make them feel bad for offering 15 minute appts. To each their own,.

I really like what you posted here Cleo. I personally just can't and won't do short encounters like this , but, I don't think that's what these threads about short versus longer encounters end up about anyway (that is the direction this thread has taken); that is, personal preference and mere discussion about the ins and outs of such service offerings. They clearly take on a tone of debasement and abjection and we should all know by now who the stigma largely clings to. To be clear, this statement is not about reducing any one particular comment made by my fellow members to a sum total judgement, but rather, reflects an observation about the overall character such discussion has taken on....and, tends to take on... I was contacted recently by a man who wanted a half hour session with me. When I informed him it was a one hour minimum, he became irate and disrespectful and continued on trying to negotiate obtaining my services anyway...as though I was some sort of irritating pylon to get by to get by to reach his single-minded end-goal. When I told him it was clear to me we were not a good fit due to the hostility I was sensing, he proceeded to tell me I was essentially a 'fat cum dump anyway'. I was astonished. Some say I shouldn't be; that such qualifying, hateful remarks are all around and to be expected here and there if I'm going to remain in the industry. It doesn't matter if it was transparent and pathetic; after all, he'd been interested and turned on enough to contact me! It still hurt, and went to the core of my being. I agree with you, Nicolette (Vaughn), that it is truly upsetting when men seeking our services do not respect our boundaries.....who assert an automatic sense of entitlement to access our time and our bodies without respect for the business model we are going by and the parameters we have set. There is a word for what underpins this; misogyny. This hateful phone call and the length of session of offer, while seemingly a crux of the conflict, was not the problem. So, again, and this is not directed at anyone in particular (at all!), the tone of this kind of discussion so often ends up stigmatizing (mainly) Service Providers while doing little else... Like folks such as Cleo & Kathryn Bardot have highlighted: seek out the services you wish to access, and take the time to inform yourself in advance via ads and personal websites about what is on offer. And, be prepared to accept our answers! And, at the level of our participation on the forum, let's be mindful of how our words and ideas transform themselves from mere subject content and 'free' and 'open' discussion to qualifying value judgments about the relative value of our colleagues, and the customers they bring pleasure to. Service Providers have their reasons for doing things the way they do. It is a highly competitive industry out there. Socio-economic privilege and access to certain markets play a huge role here, as do the personal motivations and short and long term economic goals and needs of SPs in making such determinations about how to run their businesses. Service Providers need our thoughtful care, affirmation and concern. Let's start more threads about that! My two cents! :-) Peace, Anna Additional Comments: p.s. my reference to the helpful commentary offered by Kathryn Bardot on this kind of topic comes from a similarly themed thread entitled "How about 20 or 40 minutes option?"...just wanted to clarify :-)

As an SP, I offer an "experience" not to be a "cum bucket" for someone's release for lack of better words. No thanks. If I'm going to be just a release for somone, they are going to be paying for it. I'm not a machine and a 15 min appt is not worth it to me since it takes the same amount of time to set up and get ready. Then there is the aspect of those trying to get more time for free and then there is the volume where how many clients are coming and going in a day. I am a very discrete person and would never allow this to happen when I can make more on a single appt alone. I'm not an avid clock watcher but when someone texts me with a laundry lists of specific acts they want for $60 for 15 mins or expect what they would get in a 30 or 60 min appt, do yourself a favor a favor and go to a street corner. I take time and pride in what I do and myself and my surroundings reflect that as well. I have no interest in doing these types of appts and contrary to men who are fans of 15 min service, you get what you pay for. In a fantasy world, if I did one of these 15 mins appts, it would be the bare minimum. Why should I go out of my way when someone is attempting to negotiate my rates? Why should I go the extra mile? I had someone text me once and said they only needed 5 mins of my time for $20. DELETE! If you're looking for a 15 min session then more power to you but don't expect the world for $60. Last year a 15 min appt was $100. Then it went to $80 and now guys are demanding $60. The reason this is happening because women let them. They get into this business with no training from an agency. They have a cell phone, put up a BP ad and call themselves an escort. Then some men bully them into giving them service for $60 -$80 and often times let manipulate them into staying overtime for the same rate. Some of these women don't know any better. The real sense of having an experience with an escort is long forgotten such as when I first started as an SP. That whole aspect has been thrown out the window and it's all about how a man can get off in the shortest amount of time with the lowest amount of cash to offer. Thankfully there are men out there who appreciate SPs and the time together.

nice review snowman, do you mind telling me how much was the tip worth?