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When you are paying for an intimate encounter that involves sharing both your and someone elses' body, you are in fact negotiating and haggling over the value of a PERSON which is not the same as haggling a better price on an air conditioner or lawn rake. Inanimate objects bought and sold have a cost associated and most have mark up's. This is not the same as a person who is taking the time to clean and straighten, shower, do hair and make up, chose clothing and give the best experience possible. Never reduce a person to an inanimate object. Buy a blow up doll or fleshlight instead if that is the value you have for another person, including yourself.

I am one to plan ahead and as I have been touring for a long time the more notice the better. These days far too many ladies plan trips on short notice and give no account of the ones that plan in advance and it causes bad blood. I personally have zero respect for the ladies that can't be bothered to give at least a few weeks notice on a tour, especially after the majority of us plan for weeks. Book in advance and advertise and you trip will be successful, book on short notice and your trip will probably take a loss - just a personal perspective.

I have asked this question before and the answer is definitely no there is no way to block a specific person from viewing your profile without completely crippling the access to it for everyone else and losing the visibility to potential clients. I am not sure of the complexity to make this happen but it really would be a feature I would love to see added. With the nature of this site and of this industry I have attracted on occasion creepy messages from members that made me very uncomfortable. It would be great to be able to filter them out to feel that one notch safer. Xoxo Kelly

Ramble on RG, it's all good, lol. Seriously though, it is so true. To the guys who do this, some things to remember. YOU called her, YOU requested the service, YOU are the one looking for this. She did not initiate contact or try to hard sell (pun very much intended) you. Trying to haggle is rude, disrespectful and utterly pointless. Go back to where ever it is that you get that "better deal" or go home. When you have contacted a lady that offers a much better experience than you are obvious accustomed to, expect to compensate her accordingly. As a matter of fact, bring extra for the tip you should need to give for this wonderful experience. They might not want to come work in the oil patch if they don't like inflation. As for generalizing, it's usually not a good idea but, in this case, it seems to be a trend. ps. My guess is the ones who haggle are the ones who can afford it anyway. That seems to be my experience in all walks of life. I get it with my work as a plumber too.

I tried a 30 min one time and found it was over way too fast so no, 15 mins for me would never happen. I rarely, if ever , book 60 mins anymore. It is usually 90 or 120 or longer. I find myself wanting more than the wham, bam thank you maam. I'm talking about something more than just getting off. There has to be some connection. A mutual feeling that comes from both parties involved. I don't mean some love thing here. After all, we know what this is, but there is an emotional, sensual connection that comes with a good sexual encounter. It's human nature and to deny that makes this all meaningless so why spend the money. I see many providers' ads that talk of an experience that encompasses body, mind and soul so it seems there is more to this for you ladies out there too. Most times I've talked to a provider about encounters, they seem to be put off by guys coming in just for quick sex, getting off and leaving. Cumming and going, as it were. It's probably why some ladies prefer to see 40-50-60's guys, (besides them being financially secure). Making money is the goal for most of you, obviously, but enjoyment in what you are doing has to be important. Believe me, if you don't enjoy it, we can tell (despite what you may think of us horndawgs).

Things that will make me cranky if you contact me and do them: 1. one word texts. e.g. hi 2. using terms of endearment when we've never met. e.g. hun, sweetie, baby 3. trying to negotiate the rate after I've said it's not negotiable 4. asking if I do bareback full service 5. Via email, asking if I'm available now Things that will make me cranky in person: 1. bad breath 2. dirty hands 3. body odour 4. cheese dick (this one will get you kicked right out of my incall because it is honestly the grossest thing ever and an affront to my senses, not to mention disrespectful) 5. asking for bareback sex 6. asking for my real name 7. asking for future discounts because "you'll be my regular" 8. washing your dick in the sink and getting water everywhere. If you're that dirty, just get in the shower. 9. sucking on my clit like you're some sort of sexual vacuum cleaner. 10. talking shit and/or gossiping about other providers

I think that right there is the whole key to this conversation. Really well said, Ms. Nicolette. There is no such thing as perfection and people have to realize that. I never go into this expecting some fantasy that is, frankly, unattainable. I do, however, understand (and appreciate) that you ladies have to put your best "side" out there because you are obviously trying to attract potential customers. We, as clients, just have to realize this and understand the dynamic of advertising. I think we do but sometimes forget when it comes to this particular industry. (little brain fogs big brain and our idiot asses go off half-cocked into lala land)

While professional pictures are nice to present, they are extremely hard to live up even if you are already an attractive by regular standards..without the makeup, lighting, etc. You cannot carry photographer's lighting to create the same look. To expect a person to look the exact same way in the picture is ridiculous. However, using pictures like that often times can produce too many high expectations. I've been using pictures I have taken myself for the last few years and people tell me I look better in person. There isn't as much pressure and I can look like myself. The only thing that changes with me from time to time is the blonde shade of my hair and the length. As for only capturing the positive side in a picture, isn't that the point? Afterall, there is a level of professionalism that we need to aspire to. I'm certainly nowhere near perfect yet I know I'm attractive but that doesn't mean I should deny catching the beautiful aspects of myself. Don't expect the exact same picture. Small things such as different hairstyles or varying shades of color change in the course of 3- 6 months but that certainly doesn't qualify as a bait and switch. The key is to have realistic expectations and understand that we're not magazine cover models. If a person is building the SP up to be a fantasy and then disappointed by the outcome, the SP should not entirely be at fault unless of course she's using fake pictures or ones she knows she can't live up to.

Since I am from Montreal (born and raised) and since I've been a companion for a few years and have experienced different markets (local, out of town, out of province markets), I can tell you this: - The Montreal adult/SP industry is over saturated and has been for quite a long time - To stay competitive, a lot of ladies (but not all) and agencies will drop their price and offer more "services". This is where the supposed VFM (value for money) comes in. A fair amount of the guys all want the "best", the most beautiful (whatever that is), the most reviewed, the most popular, the most (insert whatever you'd like here), the most services included in the price and that, for the cheapest rate possible. The mentality is: If I can have sex with (insert lady's name here) that is highly reviewed and is (insert her qualities here) and provides (insert all the services here), why should I pay a penny more for someone else? If the lady they are contacting doesn't fit that "perfect" standard and doesn't hold that same "status", then they think they should be paying less for her. Not for her time but for her (yeah, lovely). Just read some other boards and you'll see what I'm talking about. My general observation is that these guys are just looking to "get off" with someone who they think is "hot" (and not much else), for as little as possible.. Are Montreal men cheap? No, not at all but when it comes to the SP industry, some will pick according to perceived VFM and some will pick the actual lady they are truly interested in spending time with. I guess this is true and can be said about many other large cities too.

This type of bargaining is not limited to the Quebecois or people from Montreal or Gatineau or la belle province period. When guys talk like this, I say to them that perhaps they best wait until they are back in their home town to see a lady and bid them a nice day. Likewise I have had gentlemen from Montreal who drove 2 hours to see me and not once tried to bargain my rate. So I personally don't tend to generalize about clients from Montreal or Quebec period. I have had plenty of guys from right here in Ottawa say the same thing to me. Well so and so only charges this. Or I can get it in Montreal for this. Same response - then go see them. Bargain hunters are everywhere and it has nothing to do with the "supposed going rate" (which in my opinion does not exist). But yes, if you peruse the ads for Montreal, rates vary according to provider and services just like anywhere else.

Everyone does -clients and providers want to be seen in the best light, so we ALL have to realize no one is as described or pictured. As it's impossible to see all in pics and a verbal description is different for everyone. No one minds eye sees the same thing:) Clients are guilty of describing and pushing their best attributes as well and in my experience many over sell themselves. I've met more than a few men that did not match the description they provided me. Some were much older, younger, some that described being muscular were thin and normal, others said to be "carrying a few extra pounds" were obese, some eyes weren't as described, heights different and some who described themselves as business men looked more blue collar. I am accepting of all types and appreciate all looks but an awful lot of men tend to verbally airbrush themselves:( I'm not sure if this would be a simple case of we all see things differently or arrogance of thinking you are more than you are, or perhaps both:) Mind you it is easier for women to enhance their looks giving an impression that we are more than we actually are. Many here wear hair extensions, have had breast enhancements, wear heels, lol,, I've had men tell me I was shorter without them, duhh!!! Obviously when you take off 4-5 inch heels you are going to be 4-5 inches shorter, lol. A lot where makeup and a lot of making out is going to remove that so your girl won't look as "neat" after a playtime, sometimes better, sometimes worse. Some where padded bras, corsets that cinch in waists, some change their hair color. In the end, as it's supposed to be, or so it's said it's supposed to be, we are all attracted to one another beyond the physical, if there has been some conversing and chemistry developed that is;) If someone is going to see someone solely based on a picture and verbal description, solely because of their looks, or one or the other, in most cases be prepared to be disappointed or happily surprised, but never expect what you expect:).

Educate me please-can you block SPECIFIC individuals from visiting profile pages and if so how? If I block it seems to block all and if I put them on my ignore list it just blocks me from seeing their posts . I want to be able to block only those who seem to want to visit me but not allow the same courtesy, so I'd appreciate some help, I've searched but can't find anything. Now remember, you are talking to a computer idiot!

Now before I open my mouth I want to say that I love Montreal and the Quebecquois and that this isn't a put down but a sincere question and observation and that there are exceptions, but in general it's my experience independently and when I was involved with services, that Quebec men, especially Montreal men never want to pay "the going rate" for an encounter, they seem to expect more for less when here.... why? A typical response I've always gotten was I can get it in Montreal for $$ so... But if that were the only reason then I'd think that the many other well travelled gents that call and can get it for $$ in Thailand, Germany, N.B or where ever would be saying the same thing?

I don't get in to much discussion but it is so obvious and simple, I had to add my 2 cents (taken form RG)... Why even have a debate on this. If I make a 'Rendez-Vous' for 14:00, I will be there for 14:00... Not 13:55, not 14:05... Arriving early is not being a Gentleman and arriving late you are on your own time... It's that simple. Spare me the 'my watch says'.... or 'the hotel room clock'... most people have a cell phone. The time on my cell will be the same as the Lady. If she decides for some reasons to have you staying longer, BONUS!!!! Stop complaining people... Enjoy, life is too short for always complaining. It's a give and take! Smile and love! Just saying!!!!!

Your next lesson, Grasshopper, is this. If it's not fun and you can't dance to it don't do it. :)

I believe it is best to arrive just at the appointment time. That 'five minutes' early is also the lady's 'freshen up' time. Follow the lady's lead - they'll usually give you an indication. waterat

Just a reminder that we're not supposed to discuss rates on cerb, but just so you know, my hourly incall Ottawa rate less than what you have quoted in your opinion as "the going rate". I suggest you tread lightly with this topic because you will never get everyone to agree with that the "going rate" is, in Ottawa, Halifax or anywhere else. My last word on a very delicate subject.

In User CP -> Profile Privacy In the pulldown for each group, there's an option for "Registered members". It's what I'm using for everything except for "profile picture".

I think that would be a good idea. Then only registered users are are looking at profiles. If people aren't willing to sign on, why have the privilege of being able to browse? As for the blocking thing, I don't quite understand why we would register, create a profile, post on a message board and then not allow others to view said profile but yet expect to view their profile. It doesn't seem right and I agree with Cristy, there should be a way to do the same to those.

Very well stated Cristy. I agree completely. Never expect exactly what you see. There are too many factors that go into the photos. Especially if the shots seem to be professional ones. For face pics, top notch makeup people will often do a makeover that the woman can never recreate for herself. And photographers can often get just the perfect angles and shots that hide even the smallest imperfections. Honestly, the photos aren't the thing that gets me when looking for an encounter. It's the wording and the sincerity that comes through. I look for wit, intelligence and confidence. I don't need the generic " hot babe" "will rock your world" drivel that many ads seem to have in them. There is an art to the spoken or written word that I find attractive. If you can capture that art, you can capture our attention and even the guys who are more visual will subconsciously feel that. For example, I read Cristycurves webpage and was blown away before even looking at the gallery. Trust me, these things are a huge turn-on.

Hi Roaminguy, I do have some clients (819 clients as we call them as a matter of fact) that do live paycheque to paycheque and struggle but have never asked me lo lower my wages but rather tell me I am saving my money to cum and see U. Of course, they don't cum see me every week but I admire them and when they cum and see me I really do give them the experience of a lifetime until they cum and see me again!

Getting flashbacks to the negotiating thread. Just because in life some businesses and services are open to negotiating DOESN'T mean every business and service is open to negotiating. And especially in this lifestyle, the ladies operate a business and provide a very unique service, unlike any other. So SP's do not nor should not get compared to other businesses, theirs is a very unique business and profession. The ladies who let a "man" haggle with him so he can have an encounter as cheap as possible are likely those who live paycheque to paycheque, and need the money to make rent, pay bills, put food on the table and so on. Those ladies aren't financially in a position to refuse the haggler. They are economically forced to put up with the hagglers, and the hagglers exploit, yes exploit these ladies Gentlemen in this lifestyle should be paying the lady's rate in full. If they can't afford her rate, then don't call the lady. That way she is free to book another client, one who will pay in full, no haggling. Haggling is akin to shortchanging the lady. How would any of these hagglers like it if they were shortchanged by their employers and they had problems paying the bills because of it Whether just unique to Montreal or not I don't know. But if the lady charges a going rate, that is what is paid. It's not complicated, not rocket science, just respect, common sense and common decency. A morning rambling from someone who doesn't haggle RG

But this isn't any business and negotiating in THIS business is frowned upon, considered rude and not wanted. Because a person gets a lot of negotiators doesn't necessarily mean their rates are to high, it simply means they get contacted by a lot of ill mannered, cheap men. I won't say dumb because smart men negotiate as well:)

I honestly don't understand how guys can text the "hey baby" thing. It's so disrespectful, imo. I could see an opening conversation starting with that being a total turnoff for you ladies. Most of the turn-offs I read in this thread are pretty obvious ones and a guy would have to be pretty stupid not to realize that.

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That this site is geared towards keeping things positive. That the majority of us can have discussions on matters with completely different point of views-in a civilized manner. And that we also have the opportunity to get to learn and know more about other members on this site :)

Re opening my account on CERB! Missed you guys a bunch! Happy to be back ;) :boobies:

At the end of the day, no matter what type of business people are involved in, self employed or not, we all go to work because we want to earn a paycheck/make money so we can meet our weekly/monthly obligations (and then some). We all have the same motivations; I do not know of anyone who would gladly go to work 4-5-6 days a week for free (unless they are volunteering for something). BUT and here's my big BUT, some people are happy with only looking at the bottom line as long as it pays their bills while others care about much more than that: looking forward to going to work, loving what we do, feeling happy and comfortable and actually enjoying ourselves while earning that paycheck. In the SP context, some ladies will be happy to provide a quick, straight forward service to whomever. On the other hand, some of us rather offer an unrushed experience where a connection (and compatibility) is present. It's not just about the money. It's about much more than that. Two different extremes, two different worlds. There is no wrong or right here. We all have our reasons for doing what we do and how we get there is also very personal. As always, to each their own (and yes, I mean it just in case someone decides to insinuate otherwise). It's great that you have found what works for you and your clients. You (and them) seem to be on the same page and that's awesome! :) Many of the gentlemen who look for that connection are married or are in a relationship (and yes, some are single too) but it doesn't mean they are looking to get divorced or find a new girlfriend or a new best friend. They are simply looking for more than the exchange of fluids or sexual acts during an encounter ;) From a companion that finds one hour appointments too rushed and stressful and loves to establish that connection with her future patrons and cultivate the current one :) xox

I'm always amazed that wearing a condom for oral is even an issue anymore. Seldom does a client even realize I've put the condom on him until things get serious. I can't count the number of men who have stopped me and asked me to put one on when I straddle for little cowgirl. It's fun to watch them reach down for a feel to ensure it's there because they didn't feel it during the oral. A little planning ahead and voila! If a CoB finish has been requested then it disappears without them seeing or feeling it come off as well. I couldn't imagine a playdate without oral. It's the jump off point where I do my initial inspection and decide what's on the menu for the visit then roll into other activities. It's the perfect opportunity to get him suited up so no matter what our next activity is, we are ready to rumble with no time wasted fumbling with the wrapper or figuring out which side is up! My routine is so pat that I can feel the right side of the condom with my tongue but can't see it without my glasses on and fumbling for readers just doesn't keep my juices flowing... cat

I am 62 years old and have limited experience but I can tell you Cristy Curves & Sierra make you feel like you are in your 20s.

Oh well, as I said, it was just my interpretation looking for thoughts., so I guess my 5 mins plus or minus was out o'line and yield to the victors.

Just a reminder, not all SP's appreciate an early arriver! My last 5 mins is the finishing touches; candles, music and beverages. Early arrivals mess with my juju and throw things off... Depending on the lady one chooses, the start time will vary. I don't penalize clients for showering but my guests book 2 hours. A provider that caters to shorter appointments usually has a business model that is a little more irratic and that would mean prompt start times and starting on time is essential. She may only have 2 appointments that day but Murphy dictates that they will usually start less than 15 minutes apart. Be on time and leave on time... cat

Lmao, I love that answer. And no, I don't think Alaska really counts, lol. To be serious though, I truly believe that all ladies, everywhere are beautiful in their own way. I think the true attraction comes from inside, not the outer shell. As I've said in other threads, intelligence, wit and sophistication are all huge turn-ons for me and those qualities can be found in women the world over.

I was reading another thread in which the comment was made that the gentleman booked an appointment, arrived and while the SP was the lady in the pictures, they were taken in a way that "left out" certain aspects. Now my first comment is that every SP, no matter who they are, takes pictures in a way that plays up their best features and downplays others. Honestly, we as people have a good side and a bad side and features that look better certain ways. When a picture is presented, it is to entice people to delve deeper into the "who" and stir the senses to the point of wanting to meet. I'll use myself as an example, I advertise as a voluptuous woman, a BBW, rubenesque etc. I use those terms consistently and throughout. When it comes to my pictures, I focus more on my face than other areas because I believe the face is very expressive of both inner and outer nature (where in many cases it's the body that is the focus and not the face). Would this be viewed as misleading because you don't see the whole package even though the body type is very much presented? Or is it that perhaps with all the labels bandied about that BBW, Curvy, voluptuous etc. have a certain mental image and reality can sometimes be outside this? This is just an aspect I hadn't thought of and would like insight from those who are showing up at doors unknown about what constitutes "misleading"

I saw Jessie last week.

We all know that providers will show off their best attributes, so understanding that, we the clients have to take responsibility for our own choices. Sometimes I view an album and get a sense of the lady by the photos and poses she doesn't post. If she won't show her midrift she probably has a little bit of tummy, so use all the clues, e.g. height and weight, and unless the photos are false use your judgement.

For me travel notices from ladies don't work. But I don't live in the big city where the ladies tour to. I live in a small town and I need to book ahead of time to free up a date from my end, plus travel and hotel arrangements. Not to mention time for screening/verification if the lady requires it. I guess you could say I'm a touring gentleman, and have logistical concerns from my end This has added complications when the lady I want to see tours too. Then it means both the lady and I have to co-ordinate our schedules to meet at the same time in the same city. Hi Riley Just from a touring gentleman's perspective, well this touring gentleman's perspective advance bookings are needed to see a lady, whether she tours or not. Seriously, my first encounter with a touring lady took seven months to plan and schedule. That was back 2010-2011. She and I now see each other regularly. She took a leap of faith in me, and I met a beautiful lady who I can't say enough good things about And I also met two other touring ladies, dates also planned far in advance Because they too took a leap of faith, and I can't say enough good things about them too. And all three ladies are very well known So maybe take a leap of faith in a potential client who plans far ahead. You could ask for a non refundable deposit, not to mention confirmation of the date ahead of time too. Your apprehension is understandable. But the flip side is you may meet a diamond in the rough for a client too Ramblings from a Touring Gentleman Good Luck RG

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It's all marketing, and while there are no formal rules for it, the terms, like in any advertisement, should be relatively clear: The ad is going to absolutely emphasize the positives and minimize those things that may be viewed as negatives by some, while highlighting features they feel are unique/special. I think that the only expectation beyond this would be that the ad doesn't actively lie - dramatic Photoshop, different person, etc. If someone is expecting anyone to be without imperfections of any sort, simply because they did not specifically state them in their ad, they are being unrealistic. No one puts "I like to take long lunches and occasionally check the internet for sports scores" on their resume. Yet, I think that may describe more than one or two people that I know.

I think it would behoove all concerned to remember that almost no one appears in real life as they do in photographs and videos. In other areas of life such as with those in the public eye they often use this to their advantage. I've encountered very public people when they were "off duty" and, were I not told who to expect, would never have recognized them. In the area of interest of this board no person has exactly matched my mind's image which is formed from their posted images, blogs, posts and emails. But they've been close enough! Misleading to me would be posting 15 year old pictures and trying to pass yourself off as a 20 year old or describing yourself as a "true spinner" and posting pics that intentionally do not display your prodigious bubble butt (not that I'm knocking large asses). Midnight's point is well taken that in any situation we will present ourselves as favourably as possible. We as the clients need to keep this in mind.

Now that is just a lovely tale of what could be a good start to a great friendship . It also sounds like you did everything just right . That advisor you have sounds smart . Just remember most women love flowers and hate wrenches and you will be fine . I'd say have her over often to see all your beautiful flowers . Dinner in your dining room surrounded by beauty . MN2 it may not take long to show her the walk in closet !

This poem, I have used numerous times it is of course for us to try and live by, I try to do my best each day....to give a smile...have a read, Inspirational Poem "A Smile" by Unknown Author A smile costs nothing, but gives much- It takes but a moment, but the memory of it usually lasts forever. None are so rich that can get along without it- And none are so poor but that can be made rich by it. It enriches those who receive, without making poor those who give- It creates sunshine in the home, Fosters good will in business, And is the best antidote for trouble- And yet it cannot be begged, borrowed, or stolen, for it is of no value Unless it is given away. Some people are too busy to give you a smile- Give them one of yours- For the good Lord knows that no one needs a smile so badly As he or she who has no more smiles left to give.

I myself have a couple of reasons, but one is similar to the above. I want to know who I am talking to, and who i am giving the info to. This is also why i won't 'put it in writing' so to speak, so not in pms, texts or emails. Gender, sobriety, and sincerity are far more obvious in a phone conversation, to me, and is how i screen. If the person doesn't sound right, there is no need to proceed. Not having $$ in the ads means they have to call, and that gives me insight into them. Also, many many many ad posting sites prohibit posting services, therefore there is no point in posting rates that are based on those services. Maybe the sp can post 'rates start at 100" but typically, according to the rules of the majority of ad sites out there, they can't post rates for FS, bjs, half hour FS GFE, or whatever combination of things. The fact that some sps do post all that info is neither here nor there if the sp in question is a rule follower, and/or has had ads deleted (paid for ads) due to breaking the rules. she is unlikely to continue to break the rules, she would rather have the ad up, and risk someone being too nervous to contact her for the info. And if you are too nervous to contact just to ask about a rate, then are you going to be too nervous to show up after booking an appt? Because skittish clients are not fun if they don't show up lol. So don't dismiss the ones who don't post a rate. Let's face it, there are a lot of rates posted in ads. Rates do NOT vary significantly, not enough that it matters that much if someone you call is not going to be more than 20-50 different than the ad rates you've already seen. Don't let a price decide for you who to see either, there are a lot of factors that make one sp more attractive than another, but personally to me if someone is only choosing me because my rate is 20 less than the other 10 sps ads he's seen, then that is not the guy I want to see. I want the guy who sees the ad, talks to me, and then decides that even tho my rate is 20 higher than the other 10 ads he saw, he still wants to take a chance on coming to see me. Based on who i am and what i offer, and our conversation.

Some sps are very strict about that start and end time, as in if the appt is 4pm, for half hour, they must leave at 4:30 even if they arrive at 4:15. It depends on how accurate you are with your own timing, tho to pull that off. And that is for sps who have prebooked appts, and times, and they must stay on schedule without deviation. There really aren't too many sps who work on that firm schedule, but i think the majority of us will say arrival at the door time to end time has to be within that 30 minute range. Half hour guys are only taking showers if they already know they aren't using or needing 30 minute activity time. maybe a quick rinse, or cleanup the area, hands, mouthwash, bathroom break (not in that order) a couple of minutes, no sp minds that, but dilly dallying around first, then saying they are taking a shower, if we;ve spent 5 minutes on chit chat or canoodling and then he tells me now he wants a shower, I am not feeling quite so generous with my half hour of time. now everything is going to be cut shorter than i would like because instead of 2-3 minutes prior to starting, we are looking at a full 10 minutes into the half hour for 'everything'. Is that always possible? Not without rushing thru something, no. And if you don't this is a guy who will not be in and out within the time he paid for. Sure 5 minutes here or there, no one minds that, especially if that time is in the shower lol. But 4pm to 4:40, and he still isn't gone let alone done, or wants to argue about the amount of time left? No. And that is because i offer a 45 minutes option. This is a 45 minute guy. He wants to chat, take a shower, then get started and needs 30 minute activity time, tell him next time the best option for him is to take 45 minutes, which you do at XX $. His option for the half hour is to understand the half hour doesn't come with an unrushed session of going overtime. No half hour sessions are for guys who need or want more time than that. It is often for the guys who want to be in and out within 30 minutes because they need to be somewhere else, it isn't supposed to be for the guy who wants or needs 45 minutes but too cheap to pay the hour rate to get it.

Hi, I just came across your post. I can not imagine how hard it must be. I lost a family member who I was very closed to, and I still feel like a part of me is missing and it will never be the same. It's sad, so sad. I admire your courage and your ability to ask for guidance and help! I assume that it was me you were referring to. I must say that as special as this can make me feel, I agree with those who said it was better to forget that idea. I don't feel like I could be able to help you in any way, and to me it seems like this situation can just make things harder for you. As its been said before I am not her, I am probably completely different, and I am afraid that there is nothing I could do or say that could comfort you... I do think that you should try and maybe go on a date, or even book time with an SP (I would be happy to recommend someone if I know them). It would ease you into the idea of moving on with your heart, because I am sure you wife is by your side and would be sad to see you aching and lonely. She will always hold a place in your heart and getting close to someone else is just about you, taking care of you. I really wish you the best! I thought it was important to write you and show my support... Love, Lola xox

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