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Um... Like I said, I didn't want to assume to understand your intentions so I asked. Your explanation has come across that you've written lots of threads and posts and are trying to figure out what makes people click thank or nominate a post, and if they don't because they don't like the OP. I will speak only for myself - I am an adult, who has no time for drama or childish behavior. Therefore I don't have the time to had select which threads or posts I'm going to thank or nominate based on a like it dislike system. If it resonates with me and who I am, then I thank it. If it's considerate and touching, then I thank it. If it really touches me deeply, or makes so much sense to me it's awe inspiring, then I nominate it. And when the mood strikes I respond. Or start my own thread. I am still not clear what thanking posts and nominating posts has to do with supporting others within this industry. Yes, there are those who have formed bonded friendships. But that's not the point. I, for example, am a person who truly believes we get what we give. I believe in mutual respect and acceptance, regardless of differences. The golden rule: Do unto others... I have dignity and confidence in who I am. I encourage safe experiences equally among the sex workers I am associated with. I make recommendations to valued clients so they may have safe, pleasurable experiences too. I don't waste my time or energy on competition or ownership. I am me. Those who choose to see me do so at their own free will. Those who choose to associate with me (or not) do so at their own free will. In short, so I support SP's and hobbiests having a safe, pleasureable and mutually beneficial time in this industry? Of course I do. Do I think it has anything to do with thanking or nominating posts, or replying to threads? Not for me it doesn't!

Unfortunately, he jumped the gun out of impatience and not only on CERB. He started this thread at 05:13 PM today with the title "Would you be worried about being scammed" and an hour later, started another thread, on a different board named "Scammed by my regular girl". I really hope nothing serious has happened to this lady and I hope for you, the OP, that she is not scamming you. IF she was only unable to get back to you before your deadline (or today/tonight), with what you posted on the two boards, unfortunately, I highly doubt an apology (and retraction--if at all possible) will be able to repair what has already been done. To the OP, I hope things work out for you.

I had a delicious dinner tonight at Turtle Jacks Mississauga. I ate every morsel. When the server came to clear my plate she asked how my meal was and I responded ... "ya that was awful!" She could see I pretty much licked my plate. I'm pretty sure I didn't offend her :D And I'm 100% sure my comment had nothing to do with my self esteem.. or trying to make myself feel better :) I'm harmlessly sarcastic all the time! People better not start taking me seriously or I'm in big trouble lmfao ....

I'm not entirely sure I understand the point of this thread - so instead of assuming I'm going to ask for clarification... Are you suggesting that there are members of this board, primarily women (given what you've written here) that only "thank" or "nominate" their friends posts, and not just anyones? Please clear that up for me, as I am unsure of your meaning :)

When you are in a session and getting multiple texts from the same person and they start to get really rude and irate esp if I'm on an hour or appt or longer. I don't answer the phone when I'm with someone and I'm only one person. I wish that I could have a secretary but I don't. When you tell someone you don't negotiate or give discounts and they act self entitled. I don't want to hear about financial sitations either. It's none of my business and I don't wish to have someone put that on me. People serial texting or calling. I had someone text me 58 times the other day when I was visiting in the hospital! No joke! Picture texts of a person's junk. And..."How much for just a bj?"... "I'm young and hung". Sorry that doesn't pay my bills. lol.

just a note ... it might just be me (it often is lol) but I find the excessive use of smilies to be very sarcastic, especially if the comment preceding the smilie is up for interpretation. A smilie in the wrong place can totally change the meaning of your post. A smilie doesn't always mean your smiling. :D

Speaking for me, I support this board, this community, and consequently it's members (I hope) by my posts, and also by the use of "Thanks" "Comments/Rep Points" and/or "Nominate Post" I don't use any of these, including my own posts for any hidden agenda. My posts are my own opinions. And the use of "Thanks" "Comments/Rep Points" and /or Nominations, I use if someone's posts rubs me the right way (guess a bad way of putting it on a board like this LOL) But whether issued or not, they have nothing to do with like/dislike of a person. And I have been generous with a few people some days (they all rubbed me the right way LOL) that I had no more love to hand out, not for 24 hours at least Also, general comment, don't worry too much about "Thanks", "Rep Ponts" "Nominations". I've sometimes written what I think (my thinking may be wayyy off btw) a Pulitzer Prize winning post, and yet nothing...then a two line off the cuff comment, and lots of thanks. All I'm saying, don't read too much into "Thanks" "Rep Points" and or "Nominations"...I appreciate them when given but it isn't my reason for posting nor do I read any hidden meaning in not getting them And I give them when I think due, to another CERB member. BTW sometimes quoting and getting a agreeing post is another way to be acknowledged, and sometimes PM's and Visitor Messages too Anyhow, a rambling RG

I am closing this thread as it falls into the airing dirty laundry in public. I also dont like how this is escalating and is against the nature of this site

I have always tolerated requests for cbj but I'd much rather perform oral without a barrier. If someone tried to tell me I'd have to give up daty or kissing I'd retire.

Quote-The term support means different things to people at different times. It is not a one size fits all experience. Often a descriptive adjective preceding the word support is required, e.g., emotional support, financial support, physical support, psychological support.-unquote But lets speak to it as it as it relates to this thread and this online community:)Lets assume if you are a supportive member that you'd then give encouragement to all members, offer helpful advice, want to see them gain clients, friends or both, want them to succeed, have fun, have positive experiences, be productive and learn and if need be you'd correct them but in a positive and non-condescending manner, you'd want them to gain knowledge and experience not be embarrassed or to look silly. Many here have formed bonded friendships outside of this forum, beyond their business or hobby life, they are true friends. Many here only know others from their online voices and personas. Are you supportive to both? Do you thank and nominate threads and posts because of their authors, because of your relationship with the author, because they have said something to which you agree, because you feel they added value to this community, because you want to favor someone or do you avoid some altogether? Lets face it it's never easy to agree with someone you may not favor but as Voltaire said I may not agree with your word but I won't disagree with your right to say it, or something like that;) I guess my point is if someone is a supportive member that shouldn't start or end with who you like or dislike, if being supportive means you want a member(sp or hobbyist):) to flourish:)

I'm going to be blunt. My apologies in advance if I offend anyone, that isn't my intention. I thank those I agree with. I don't thank those I don't agree with. I nominate those I agree very strongly with and those that make a point so damn fine. That's a pretty simple way of putting it. I think, with all due respect, the OP needs to understand that in life..... shit happens, and people you thought would support you through thick and thin sometimes let you down. That's because they don't feel the same way as you. That's because they are as unique as you. It's very rare to have everyone in any given community agree with you or support you all the time. Learning this is a part of growing up.

Today (and the last few), crossing off a number of things on my To Do list that have been lingering for well over a year. I'm on a freakin' roll now....

From bottom to top: - It's definitely true that being part of a supportive community means not just hanging out in a corner with your best buddies, but moving through the room and listening to everyone's voice. Folks who are insecure in any community tend to build a fortress of allies, hide behind the walls of their clique, and from there hurl little barbed arrows of disdain and insult. That can be reassuring if you need it, but doesn't make a better community and wastes all of the potential to be found in diversity. It's easy to find reasons to dislike others. It's more work to find the reasons to like other people, especially people who aren't your usual crowd. But it's one of the ways we grow, and helps keep a community strong and healthy. - I use Thanks to acknowledge things that make me smile or laugh, or that say something I already feel. I Nominate posts that make me stop and think, teach me something, or do an especially good job expressing a view that I share. In all cases I click the button primarily for the content and not the author. But it's also true that I'm well-disposed to some familiar faces here on CERB, and that may sometimes tip the balance. But it's never the whole reason.

Hmmmmm.... a smiley conspiracy. Those emoji bastards. Just when you thought it was safe to trust them, they screw you.

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Sarcasm, when best practiced, is an art form. There is nothing more amusing than seeing words turned ever so subtly into a humorous dig, especially when the words are meant not to harm, but to lighten the tension in a heated debate. The problem? When written, it takes a concerted effort to discern whether the words were meant in a hurtful sense or as probably intended, in a light hearted manner. As Gabriella has so eloquently put it, the use of smilies, emoticons or a well place LOL or hehehehehe enables the reader to take the written word not at face value, but as they were originally intended, as a bit of fun. This of course works with all sexes, races, and religions except for people of Saskatchewan and nationals of Latvia, Zimbabwe and Bosnia Hercegovina. Those fuckers have no sense of humour. ;)

They were charged with human trafficking, proof that current laws are adequate

When I post the hours I work and I always put I require 30-60 minute prep time and they expect me to be ready in 5 minutes...I am so sorry but I like to take a shower put on something sexy and prepare my room before inviting you over(candles music and clean linen) I unfortunately do not sit around in my lingerie waiting for my phone to ring(I would go mad) that is why I request pre booked appointments or notice Also if we had already discussed my dos and donts please do not request something I had already told you I do not do during our session(for instance I do.not.offer bbbj so why.see me if that is what you want...makes no sense to me) because I will not do something I.do not feel comfortable with

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Maybe it's just me .... but my first assumption in this case would be that they were not ok, that something serious must have happened to prevent them from getting in touch. I would not first assume that someone I am this familiar and comfortable with has "scammed" me. But then I'm a glass-half-full kinda girl ...

If she is a lady you know and have a regular "relationship" with, you both have discussed ahead of time and want to go on the trip together, then yes, prepay her and book the trip If you haven't discussed the trip or committed to it, yet then don't make any financial commitments, either in booking the trip or paying her I have to say though, if I saw a companion that pre paying was not an issue, I wouldn't after the fact be posting "Would you be worried about being scammed" Your relationship isn't that trusting if you post publically especially phrasing as a scam JMO this should have been handled more discretly between you and the lady, and even if she's late (in your mind), like for example one day, would that be a problem as long as trip is booked and you both go You should have had more faith in her before thinking the worst, or if she deserves thinking the worse, why would you want a trip with her JMHO from a guy who pre pays encounters most of the time, and never assumes the worst, because I know I'm not the only one with a life, the ladies have lives too RG

I am still here but haven't been on Cerb much as my Father is very sick right now. :(

Glad to see you were able to see a distinction between the two. But I still have to disagree with you that sarcasm is ONLY meant to "put down" others. I will give you two concrete examples (should have done that in my original post. It might have helped provide a clearer understanding): 1. My sister and I have a very close relationship. She is more than a sister to me. She is also a best friend. One day, we were cooking at her house and she asked me to take out the milk from the fridge. I grab the milk and, what do you know, the container slipped through my fingers and it spilled all over the floor. Instead of getting mad and annoyed, she used sarcasm to make a joke. She said: "Nice job! I couldn't have done a better job myself!". She gave me a wink and started laughing. Instead of me getting upset and hurt (seems to be the appropriate reaction to sarcasm, according to you), believe it or not, I laughed with her. We finally cleaned up, finished cooking and shared a great meal together and that was the end of it. My feelings weren't hurt and there was absolutely NO ill intentions with her words. It was all in good fun. 2. An example related to this industry... A genleman and I were in bed talking and enjoying a glass of nice champagne. I asked him if he would like me to refill his glass. He says "yes, of course" so I grabbed the bottle sitting in the ice bucket from the night stand. I filled up his glass half way and then did mine. While filling up mine, by accident, the gentleman "hit" my arm and champagne spilled on me. It's at that point he decided to use a sarcastic comment: "Ahhhhh, Gabby, you are so clumsy. What am I going to do with you. I guess I'm going to have to help you fix this mess and lick it off your body". My gentleman had a huge smile and grin on his face and started laughing. Again, was I supposed to get upset at his comment and take it in a way that was the opposite of his intention because his used sarcasm??? I have a great sense of humor. I don't take myself too seriously neither do I take others too seriously all the time. I think taking the blinders off, being able to see multiple sides of something, keeping an open-minded about possibilities, etc. is a choice and way of life. It might be more difficult at times but, in the end, well worth it, at least for me. Life is not always so black or white; it holds many shades of greys in between.

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Thank you to everyone who gave me advice yesterday. Despite getting some nasty comments and PMs I also received many PMs and comments of sympathy. I was looking for a shoulder to cry on yesterday and I got it. Yes, I got worried and yes it may seem fast for some of you, but this event had been planned for a long time and suddenly an uncharacteristic silence silence from her and no way of making contact and time ran out. I was criticized for not booking before, but her new job created uncertainty so we decided to wait until the last minute. Those you you who expressed your concern and wishes for a positive resolution, you were the voices of reason and kept me from really freaking out. This morning, at 11 am, the girl in question texted me. She had broken her phone yesterday and was leaving the store with a new phone. I was the first person she texted. I told her about my previous post and apologized profusely. She laughed and said it was her fault because she knows how high maintenance I am (that's an inside joke between me and her but it is true). I contacted the event planners and got our trip back on with only a very minor late fee. So a happy ending. This has restored my faith because I was feeling like such a loser yesterday when it seemed like maybe I had been played. I know i was wrong. Feel free to rub it in. Thank you everyone for helping me out. Thank you mod for letting me get away with airing dirty laundry. It won't happen again. But this is what makes cerb great as the community can help someone in crisis (me) even if not everyone believes it was a crisis to begin with. Sorry for the drama. Tomorrow I am meeting her for lunch and I plan on sucking up big time. And she knows it and told me she doesn't expect it. I hope this post is seen positively. If not, well, I'm getting used to apologizing.

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Well said and I agree completely! I use thoughtful sarcasm as a humorous tool all the time and have only rarely had it miss interpreted.

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Dude. We agreed to the trip back in March. The trip is related to my work and therefore I need to register to an event to get reimbursed. She started a new day job and I was worried that it would keep her from being able to go, so I waited to register to the event. I told her a few times that I wanted a 100% confirmation by today, otherwise we could make other arrangements. But she chose to ignore me completely rather than acknowledge my text. And this is someone who I have texted 1000s of times with and she never ignores me for long periods like this. I trust her enough that we both know each others' real names, addresses, etc. And a few weeks ago I loaned her money. And now she disappears. Maybe she finds me too difficult as a friend and a client, and I'll admit I have my times. Living with MS is difficult but she knows about it, but not necessarily how bad it is, and she knows that I can get impatient when I'm in pain. I'm suspecting it's this that made her decide to bolt, but she decided to bolt at a time when she owes me quite a deal of money. So I thought I'd put it out there. I haven't named her and it's not anyone I have written a recommendation about on here.

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The spilled milk story reminded me of me letting the milk jug slip out of my hand one time and pretty much drenching the whole kitchen floor. My roommate at the time says "hey you missed a spot over there". We both laughed. I guess the expression "no use crying over spilled milk" makes sense. No use getting upset or angry about it and if there is an opportunity to make a joke, I'm there with bells on. Also, it's not so much what the person says, it's how they say it, and most importantly how WE choose to take it. I like to roll with the punches whenever possible. Life is too short to get hung up on trying to find hidden meanings in things or automatically assuming another person has an agenda.

I requested, once in my early days, for a lady to show up dress and high heels. She never said no, but when she showed up she was wearing sweats (btw sweats are very sexy) and not a dress. She explained to me that the hotel I selected (I wasn't a local, and it looked good in the website, and it was clean comfortable) was well known for hookers (her word) hence why she dressed discretely. But what she wore, sexy Then another lady I saw, at her incall, I asked her to wear a dress, one she wore in her website. It looked really good in her website, and on her in person. But she found it a bit uncomfortable I guess is the word. Anyhow no more clothing requests for me, whatever the lady wears, she looks GREAT!!!!!...and a lady showing up dressed comfortably, well that is the important thing. And two people comfortable together GREAT And apologies to the ladies who show up and see me, looking like an unmade bed LOL A rambling, with a lot of pleasant flashbacks as I wrote RG

I was reluctant to respond to this as then we go into more details about individual business models but I will try and do it in a way so as not to put anyone in an awkward position. You are quite right there is case law regarding a lower court ruling that an HJ received in a licensed body rub was not a sexual service. The famous Bill Clinton defense, which in my mind is absolutely stupid and illogical, but regardless the ruling was made. And you are right it has not been appealed, probably because of the Bedford case and they want to fight one war at a time. Regardless that ruling was a criminal ruling on a specific event that took place in a Licensed body rub and much was made about the policeman's conduct in that case as well. It had nothing to do with local regulation of body rubs. Cities still have the right to limit the number of spas and the activities that take place in a body rub. In many jurisdictions in Ontario they explicitly rule out touching the genitals, breasts or anal area of customers. And that is well within their rights. That is not in the Ottawa by-law but it does state that attendants must be dressed in clean clothing at all times. It also regulates lighting levels etc. So showers together, nude attendants, body slides etc are reasons for having your licensed pulled and being shut down even if the only release offered is manual. That is if you have a license. If you are unlicensed then the city could shut you down at anytime. That is if you are offering a body rub. If you are using some other legal loophole such as the SCC ruling on "swing clubs" you might be safe. However if someone made the case that one of the parties in the private club was not a member but actually paid, then that is a whole different ball of wax, and could lead to problems. So that being said, I will say one more time, no spa that I know of in Ottawa, licensed or unlicensed complies with the regulations regarding the activities that go on within the spas. They all advertise activities that are not allowed. So to perpetuate the myth that HJ's are OK, but anything else is not, is false. Why does LE or bylaw leave them alone? Most likely because as long as they operate as they do now, and the authorities receive no third-party complaints it is not worth their effort. Much the same as Strip Clubs where by requlation there must be a sign posted that warns of no touching between customer and dancers, and advising that sexually transmitted infections can be transmitted through unprotected physical contact. But we all know that contact goes on, it is expected. By-law and LE will not take action until they get a complaint.

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My breasts are big and natural. They have hang, are sensitive and fun to play with (I know because I do). If some exclude me because they're not perky and whatever... to each their own. My breasts are fair game to those who see their value.

One of the elements that brought me to this profession is the sheer number of UNhappily married men. Many men are married to women that they love, or did love. But the pressure of both working, not having time for each other, mortgages, naughty children, aging parents, and long commutes take their toll. A man faces the back half of his life wondering if it were all worth it. They probably haven't had sex in years. He wants to feel like a man again. But if he has an affair, he is going to lose half of everything. This is where the courtesan/mistress comes in. Compensation is the best thing ever. It keeps the lines drawn succinctly in their relationship. I didn't say that love won't creep into it! We are all human. But cash helps. True story: if the man left his wife, he'd lose the house - so he slept in a bath tub for over 2 years. A man sneaks downstairs when his wife is asleep to get on the net and "talk" to a woman with blood in her veins. Sneaking around in their own homes! And if they are busted, they are called monsters. We all need love, affection, and a damn good badabingbadaboom. Life is very good; lets enjoy!

I absolutely agree! While I often say with tongue in cheek "I love HMOPH's!" it is completely truthful. Happily Married Other Peoples Husbands make up my favourite guests for so many reasons. It's a perfect fit for my preferred business model, the ME (mistress experience). It means I never deal with the bad habits, annoying idiosyncrasies and daily grind; that is left for the woman who will inherit his estate and I get to enjoy all the delights without the trials and tribulations of day to day routine. I never have to worry they are going to arrive in a mood, never deal with him not pulling his weight around the house and he'll never steal my covers in the middle of the night, every night. I don't have to pick up his dirty laundry, deal with his family or struggle with keeping the passion alive. These parts are non existent in the relationships I indulge in. HMOPH's will never assume to be a part of my life outside of the negotiated parameters, never arriving in the middle of night thinking I will welcome him in, never assume an invite out for dinner off the clock is an acceptable thing to do. They seldom see blurred lines when paint is neon yellow clear. In my privileged experience, HMOPH's is always positive, he's always happy to be here, I'm always glad he is here. Our time together is focused, we ONLY do the important stuff like touch, talk and feel in an honest, nonjudgemental way. We spend time together knowing how truly precious that time is; we both savour every moment and when it's over we are grateful to have experienced it. We look forward to the next visit without it being a painful yearning or need. It's having all the best parts of a relationship without any of the head aches or heartbreaks. So yes Delilah, I LOVE married men... cat

This is a very helpful thread. I've steered clear of most of the hazards here but I think I could improve my initial contact conversation (primarily related to texts). I'm pretty sure I always at least started with a greeting. However, I had figured that you probably get a lot of texts (mostly time-wasters) and much back-and-forth would get annoying fast. Thanks for educating me. :)

I gave a very patient man $50 back last night. I arrived late for an outcall, we had plenty of time and weren't rushed, and he offered the full amount but I offered him a reduction for his patience. I'm sure he appreciated it although he certainly didn't expect it. What a sweetheart he was :p

Boneless, skinless chicken seasoned with Mrs. Dash Red potato Green beans, carrots, corn Brussel sprouts Large glass of water Cup of tea Two slices of raisin bread

I've been a long time member and worth it in my opinion. CMJ provides great sensual massage in nice facilities with pretty hosteses. You just need to clearly understand that there is no FS or similar extras at CMJ.

The initial membership fee at CMJ is $200, which includes a complimentary 30 minute appointment, which can be upgraded to a 60 minute appointment with an additional contribution of $50. So the net cost for membership is a one-time fee of $70. For this, you sign up, and are a known member of CMJ, which I am sure is a comfort for the people of CMJ, and therefore for you. There is a also a negligible annual fee of $10 for CMJ to keep their records current. CMJ and ALO Spas are well-respected for providing wonderful times and safe experiences :)