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Gentlemen, Not to be a stick in the mud, but it might be better to invite private responses to this type of question from one of the providers. No one has expressed public shock, but some, if not all, providers may not appreciate having their most intimate physical details discussed in a public forum. If you have information that you wish to share, you might also contact the OP by PM and disseminate that in a more discrete manner. Remember gents, we are talking about human beings with feeling, emotions and personalities, not a collection of random body parts that have been assembled for your amusement.

...has CERB been able to maintain such a positive and respectful vibe? I have been a member for very short time, but every time I come to the board and read ANY thread, it is always comforting and refreshing to know that there are a lot of good people in this industry (from both sides) who are genuine and caring. It is a breath of fresh air to get such a positive energy from people who I don't even know, and who are thousands of miles away from me. It is nice to see a lot of men have a deeper level of compassion and understanding for SPs; to see that tolerance and respect can really make a difference in the industry, it's truly inspiriting. Seeing the dynamics n this board make me see a bigger picture... If every human being could follow very simple and basic rules the world could be a better place, and that we don't always have to agree, but we can also agree to disagree respectfully. Anyway, I just wanted to acknowledge CERB, and all its members especially, the mods who are the ones keeping the order and integrity of the board. Thank you!

:) it is not (and has not been) easy to do. It does take a lot of moderation and a lot of really great members.

She was also a sex worker and brothel manager, and not ashamed of either. RIP Phenomenal Woman.

Being single after years of marriage has allowed me to be me once again. I am not modifying who I am to conform with the expectations of someone else - and I don't have to put up a facade to impress. If you know me, you know what I am about. The beauty of that? My opinions are my own. I am not bound to follow the expectations of spouse or the politically correct society in my own home.... and darn it, I really like the company I keep. My best friends? NOT the folks from work. I have seen the true colours of my comrades in the struggle to preserve democracy. When I got sick, THEY weren't there. When I got sick, my CERB family came to my side and have stayed there. In a way, I can truly say that I really do put the "ho" in home... and I love it!!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/maya-angelou-poet-author-and-activist-dead-at-86-1.2656694 A great lady has passed. I loved hearing her speak. May she rest in Peace.

Its really a sad loss to the world.... Such a wonderful inspiring woman....

Thinking of my dad....just hoping he will find peace....

Chickens. GrrrrRRRRRrrrrrRRRRR. Pretending they can make bacon. Preposterous! And they were crossing MY road.... damn chickens. MY road is meant for me, piggies and my friends. GGGGrrrRRRRRRRrrrrrrr

I get what you're saying. But there are three reasons why I'm cool with lobbing some cash outside our own borders: a) Bang for buck. When people are crushingly poor, even small and cheap improvements can make an enormous difference. Just clean water and a little education, some bags of rice. Maybe a little micro-credit to help people get small self-helping projects off the ground. Relatively tiny sums of money can make a big difference to the lives of a half-dozen, tens, or hundreds of people at a time. b) Budget allocations. I certainly agree we should spend most of Canadians' money taking care of Canadians; but if you've allocated (just making up figures here) 95% of your budget to Canada and its mothers and children, putting 5% aside for the desperate outside our borders seems totally cool to me. We don't have to keep every single crumb of our pie for ourselves. c) Self-interest: Moral and (less compellingly) security and economic payoffs. It makes Canada a good global citizen to help the less fortunate members of our vast human family. I'm not much into absolute "us" and "them"; we're all just lucky to have been born here instead of there. Plus, if we help improve the conditions and prospects for the desperate, then they're less likely to turn to violence to secure any kind of future for themselves. Economic disparity carries real risk. Finally, way down the road, the stable and growing nations that could result from aid make better markets for our stuff than millions of starving people locked in civil wars and food riots. Those last two are my weakest points: to get from subsistence aid to the desperate all the way to stable and peaceful market-nations is a long stretch. But I think it can't hurt to nudge the arc in that direction.

In rmt circles, the 'house' and RMT split the price of the appointment and the RMT pays the house for use and cleaning of the linens (towels, sheets, etc.) This is pretty standard practice with the split varying (50/50, 60/40, 70/30) and is why some RMT's go independent. I can imagine something similar in the MA industry, with the exception that the House fee is paid up front and the MA accepts donations and tips from appreciated clients. The house fee is to cover costs of taxes, electricity, water, etc. Some also charge a fee for cleaning the linens. That's is expected and proven to be fair for all. Now, I am not so naive to believe that there are not those who will take advantage of another. Make illegal or unfair demands. Enforce controls on acceptable donations/tips. Personally for this reason, I am very selective of where and with whom I am a regular visitor. <I may have gotten a little side tracked from the OP. Oops.>

I remember when my father put her book "I know why the caged bird sings" in my nine year old hands, and how transformed I was by it. Dr. Angelou lives on in many of us.

She truly left the world in better condition then she found it! She did so much for us as a humanity and as women! R.I.P

If I can precis all of this, it's quite simple. Treat every encounter as if it was a first date with a woman with whom you wish to share intimacy. Be: Clean, punctual, deodorized, groomed, generous, modest, polite and accurate with your funds. Don't Be: A dick. Accurate?

This is where it gets silly.. "not allowed" ?? By who?? is there some super-secret Federal Department of BlowJobs? The bottom line is this. If you feel comfortable providing a BBBJ then do it. If you don't feel comfortable providing one, then do a CBJ. You need to do what is comfortable for you. But getting on here and whining about feeling pressure or competition is a non-starter. How can anyone on this board believe that some of this is not a way to eliminate competition. This debate has gone on ad nauseum. If you don't feel comfortable with a BBBJ then don't do it. But again, don't try and constrain other providers with your ideas. If you think a CBJ protects you and prevents disease transmission, then there is no validity in the argument that those who give BBJ's are putting you at risk. A CBJ only policy should protect you from that if your arguments are true.

There is truth to this because I am one of I'm sure many who began to provide bbbj from feeling pressured, the need to be a so called "genuine" gfe and because more than not demanded it. But in saying that I could not justify allowing daty and then expecting the man to be covered. Joining cerb was an eye opener because years before, when I was involved with services, offering that service would get you fired, it wasn't allowed, ever! Now everyone, or it seems like everyone is doing it.To be honest I'd prefer it not be allowed, but who listens to me, lol!

Rude is very easy to decipher. The post itself however, is completely unintelligible. :icon_wink: I assumed you were drunk. (I still kinda do.) :icon_wink: :icon_wink: :icon_wink: Clearly you don't want to discuss anything, you wanted to make a speech. So, job done. Goodnight Christy, Kim EDIT: (To the topic at hand, I "thank" posts I find funny, bright, helpful or interesting. Who the poster is has no bearing on it.)

As many of you know, I have been a long time / original client of both Paradise Spa and Angel's Touch. I have been more than happy with the total environs and extremely overjoyed with the Ladies employed. However, today I was completely blown over by the extent, class, fit and finish that Marc and Angie have completed with the new rooms, the new entry, all of it! From really big showers that easily accommodate my big ass to the mirrors, lighting, water jets, new fluffy towels! As usual, very, very clean and comfortable. An absolutely outstanding accomplishment! In my humble opinion, there is not doubt in my mind that this experience is THE BEST massage experience in Ottawa and possibly Ontario!!!

You've lost me, I have no idea what this post even means? The above is needlessly rude. imo Starting a thread doesn't allow you dictate who can post or what opinion they may have. You asked a question but whenever given an answer you don't agree with you attack the post/er. When you repeatedly post passive aggressively about what you perceive "others" are doing wrong, eventually someone will point out it's best to worry about your own posts/business rather than harp on what everyone else is up to. kwim? As evidenced by a few of your recent threads, if you seek out drama you will find it. Kim

Maybe I'm off the mark here, but I thought agencies (real agencies) were so called because they were acting as agents (ie representatives) for the ladies, not as their boss. As agents they did their bookings, screening, driver, security and so on for the lady The model used, where an agency is considered the employer and the SP an employee and the lady has to do what the employer says...sounds more like a pimp, and that already is illegal....not to mention as for being a pimp, since already illegal, do you really think then laws banning bbbj are going to deter him. As for enforcing this no bbbj law, how is that going to be done. Having a law is one thing, enforcing it is completely another A rambling RG

I believe a boatless fisherman was unable to ferry her back across the road - but then why would he want to?

They hide the phone #, that is probably so no one sees this: http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/escort-service-hiring-18/1740405 The name of the agency is also hidden, Barely Legal is the name. But that term is usually blocked on most sites. they don't have a problem showing the number probably in the hiring ad. I do think that anyone promoting "Barely Legal' to be the agency name is a problem. You've got one seriously unhappy sp in this ad https://cityxguide.com/diamond-and-starr-18/ You also have an agency who has no problem using face pics for these new sps. I do not feel this agency has the best interests of these sps in mind. They are advertising for 18 to 21, petite build, and my guess is all the ads will say the sp is 18, barely legal, or new. Which will end up attracting some clientele who like to push boundaries.

I think the problems come in the fact you have to rely on the country's organizations to distribute this help. As we well know, often what was meant to be free ends up in the market, for sale, and not always helps the ones in need. Recently i read a story about what happened to an orphan in India, when she was 17, just hanging out with friends, before she became an sp later in life. One of the anti trafficking groups actually picked them up, and locked them up at their building, in order to fill out a report about them, as more numbers of 'rescued child sex workers". When donors came to visit, they were trotted out and introduced, her as being 12, her 23 year old friend being 17. They were not allowed to leave, and had to actually bribe the guard with sexual favours, even tho they were not sex workers, in order to get what they need to call home, which for her was an orphanage. Eventually they were able to escape the Rescue organization, of all things. maggie macneils blog has the story of Molli Desi, I had the link somewhere, but faster to just post here, and let you google it. It's very revealing.

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I really don't think anybody intended to offend anyone personally I think he was just looking for info on a certain thing that he likes although he could phrased it differently. Posted via Mobile Device

A wonderful role model for all of us... she took the challenges life placed in front of her and overcame them to show that we can in fact be a positive impact in our world and that our problems do not define us. I wish I had half her strength of character.

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Me too, but perhaps that's why I am single;), lol! I love being single, my life is busy and I wouldn't have the time to devote to nurturing and maintaining a relationship. I love my freedoms and the ability to "date" whomever I please, when ever I choose and in whatever manner I deem needed. I love the single and married men I meet and would hope for those who are single or attached, that it is the relationship they want and is best for them.

Come & Meet Your Favorite MA's and Socialize & Let Loose @ our Private Party! Theme: Victoria Secret Lingerie Date: Friday May 30th, 2014 Location: Paradise Spa (Use Side Entrance) 1902 Robertson Road Bells Corners, Ottawa Time: 11 pm-late 11pm-2am (Use of Spa Rooms for Massage sessions with your favorite MA) Maximum 30 min session Door Fee Regular Room $0 (Savings of $55.) Limit 1 per client....any additional sessions with another MA $25. (Savings of $30.) Hot Tub Room $40. (Savings of $30.) Bring your own beverages This is a private party event.....anyone interested in attending please send me a PM to pre-register! Couples Welcome :smile: We will also be handing out a $20 OFF card to every guest that attends that they can use in a future visit! We are looking forward to a fun night with all of you that chose to come J Ladies who have pre-registered to come: Scarlett ***Surprise visitor :smile: Kimber Chasity Ashley-NEW Sasha Hannah Tia Melody April Kandice Sabrina R Summer Lexi Holly-NEW Nina Salina Sabrina Samantha Riley Bianca If you have any questions please free to PM! Best Regards, Angie & Marc Thursday's Cuties Holly 9-4 NEW aka "Holly91" April 9-4 Salina 9-4 aka "SalinaFlower" Riley 10-11 aka "Riley Parks" Avah 11-5 aka "Avah" Cherry 12-6 aka "Cherry Blossom" Amanda 2-11 aka "Triple Delight" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Kendraa 3:30-11 NEW Victoria 3:30-11 aka "victoriascrt" Hannah 3:30-11 aka "Hannahxo" Bianca 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Bianca" Kendraa-NEW Holly-NEW "Reflection" Room

You had me Red at "cute perky waitress" ;) Yummy

Glad to be back on Cerb after dealing with family related things.

Having my baby sister to talk too....so precious! Bianca

Yep, and I was with her! :) Sorry to have missed you, curmudgeon. A beer next time, OK?

That has to be one of the silliest comments I've read on here in ages. You obviously have no idea how CVD works or how many Canadians are affected by it. If you don't care about your own health, that's all fine and well, but don't confuse your old age for medical wisdom. Incidentally, stress and lack of sleep also contribute to CVD. Additional Comments: Erectile dysfunction: The leading indicator of heart disease in men http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/17/erectile-dysfunction-the-leading-indicator-of-heart-disease-in-men/

is Really Gabriella Laurence? the above quote "subjective interpretation" is yours. Now is this only to be considered when I read your posts? The fact that you assumed I was sending a message is your interpretation, your issue not mine. Should you explain your intent behind every post/ thread you write? I'm not going to. Read into it what you will! As you said we all can interpret what we read as we see fit, so fill your boots. Now you say that some people consider you sarcastic because of the FULL quote Kim provided in her post? lol Yes lol!! What? You haven't gotten my sarcasm? my sense of humor, sorry if it went over your head? I'd say I'm sarcastic a lot of times and I do agree with the article and the definition of sarcasm, even when I use it! Again, you are believing and reading into this what you see fit. Are you for real or was it just a sarcastic comment? Or perhaps a witty and intelligent comment? Maybe a clarification would be helpful so there are no misunderstandings (adding a :) just in case). Remember it was you as well who commented about wearing rosy colored glasses and not taking everything so literally all the time, or does this also just work for you? So which one is it, cristycurves? Not sure Gabriella Laurence which do you think it is? Did I say I never used sarcasm? Have I mentioned that I thought I was better than you or anyone else? Where does it say I'm excluding myself? Are you above sarcasm or are you not like everyone else who uses sarcasm from time to time (whether it'd be ironic sarcasm, witty sarcasm, funny sarcasm, ill intended sarcasm, etc.)?? From reading your posts-lately, I can tell you, you are not above anything (should I add a ;) here?). You sure are making a mountain out of a mole hill;) If you need concrete examples, I can easily provide you with quotes of what you wrote, within context... especially to me when I dared to disagree with you (would a :( be appropriate here?). You sure do get offended easily:) Imagine the usage of emoticons causing such hostility:( I am aware of what I write, I think you should concentrate on your writings and I on mine, or is this also a lesson that I am only needing? Yes, those smilies are mostly being over-used to (try to) disguise insults. Those smilies don't change the meaning the message being sent, at all. And this is nothing new either. I don't use smiles to disguise insults, I use them to show I'm joking but interpret them as you see fit. Sometimes, there is room for interpretation and sometimes, the message is loud and clear. Dare to disagree with Miss CC and you will be on the receiving end of passive aggressive (and sarcastic) comments. Is it, lol, Once again I guess interpretation is only used appropriately when GL says so! cristycurves, you say you like bluntness? This one was all for you. Sarcasm excluded. Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time. P.S. How many smilies did I use in my post? Maybe I should just add a few more because, well, I am allowed to and have not reached the limit yet... ;) :biggrin: :icon_razz: :icon_cool: I think you were okay as you'd have gotten a message to tell you other wise!!

Well this thread has certainly stirred the pot. I didn't comment earlier as I was busy but lets all take a breath here. When I first quickly read this to me it simply a question of do you thank, not thank ,or nominate a post and why do we do it? I'm much the same as others that have replied if its something interesting to me, I will comment or thank. Nothing really to do with who started the thread or those involved in the discussion. We all have an opinion. I have gotten myself in hot water here a few times and have sometimes felt supported and sometimes not. We are all grown ups here, make mistakes and have to live with our words and move on. Maybe its time to do that now and sleep on this!

What a wonderful thread designed to get me out of myself and have me set out on a dream journey to the land that fires my imagination...SPAIN. Nowhere on earth seems to hold the strange fascination and attraction for me that sunny Iberian Peninsula does. I want to fly to Paris take a super fast train to Madrid and spend endless days just investigating the city and all its Cultural and Art offerings a visit to the Prado Museum to soak in the works of Velazquez, Goya, Murillo, Ribera and others would be the ultimate in a visual experience for me and to follow that up with a visit south to the old capital of Toledo and El Greco this is a place I have dreamed about for a long time and an absolute must when the great day comes. I shall wait just a little longer, late summer if all goes well and nothing interferes in the meantime. Thank you for reminding me of a pleasant journey awaiting me. ngate

2014 seems to be the year of the Magician, I posted some of my fanatsies in an earlier post where one was to experience the company of two sexy ladies who I felt would rock my world giving me something to remember for a long time. My fantasy became reality about a week ago when Katherine and Sophia decided to entertain PEI gents with the possibility of having a threesome here in Charlottetown. Katherine teased us with first with a post and the next day Sophia announced the good news, with the privilege of visiting both ladies over the past year I felt they would be perfect couple to have some sexual fun with so I booked a hour and a half immediately. I had always wondered would the ladies entertain me as much as I hoped to entertain them, wow I could not have written a better script to describe how my time was with these two ladies from getting a dual massage to pleasing one lady while getting pleased myself at the same time. In another post I also mentioned the journey of getting to the finish was just as important to me as the finish itself, I think Katherine and Sophia must of read this post because they each took me on a trip where I was so happy to succumb to their pleasures. Note first time also for the Magician for msog in a hour and a half thanks ladies. For the details in how this all happened you will have to hope these two sexy ladies decide to work together again so you will get to experience it yourself. Sophia, Katherine thank you both again for an experience of a lifetime, It's being ten days and I am still smiling:) Magician

Thank you for that, Roaming Guy. Delilah, thank you for this post! Some escorts actively invite mistress scenarios, be it for an hour, or for months on end. Some non-pro gals do the same. The men promise to leave their wives. Fortunately, most of us know the score. Play the tape through: if he really DID leave his wife, first thing you know, you are stuck with His Lordship 24/7, someone else's divorce, social ostracism, hostile offspring, and his laundry. Run! Hide! You pay a very high price for love. Compensation says that you are a professional. If he stops paying, you are not a professional, and your boundaries are shattered. You are having an affair, and we all know where that ends up. Your mom wasn't joking. Escorts/courtesans/mistresses have existed for at least a thousand years because they are compensated to have an expiry date. Some did very well, and some made history, but all had a strong sense of self preservation and self integrity. Cheers!

Besides the major and obvious turn-offs that have been covered on this thread (poor hygiene, lack of communication, bad manners, negotiation, etc), one of my biggest turn off is the client that you have to constantly remind that this is a no string attached escort/client relationship that works BOTH ways. There is a minority of men who cannot just take our "relationship" for what is it, and won't hesitate to pronounce the "L" word. They soon will develop a sense of entitlement and even become jealous, possessive and intrusive. They will constantly try to push your emotional boundaries. They are used to conquer in order to get what they want. You will give them a inch, and they will immediately ask you - or take - the mile. Not a second it would cross their mind that you may already be in a solid relationship or even married. I find that quite disappointing because it actually usually starts with a great chemistry...However their perception of the escort-client relationship will soon get distorted. Personally I find this to be extremely emotional draining. If I find myself in the obligation to burst the client's bubble more than 2 times regarding the nature of our arrangement, I will unfortunately have to fire him. I understand that this is a sensitive service and that as human beings we cannot always control our emotions - and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. What may turn wrong is how those emotions are handled.

Your next lesson, Grasshopper, is this. If it's not fun and you can't dance to it don't do it. :)

Realizing that I've finally "grown up" and don't give a flying f__k what people think of the choices I've made and will continue to make. It's liberating.

Re opening my account on CERB! Missed you guys a bunch! Happy to be back ;) :boobies:

After saying a cruel goodbye to hundreds of physical books in my library on Saturday, I jumped out of bed Sunday, buckled down, and figured out how to recover hundreds more ebooks that I'd lost because they were DRM protected and in PDB format (for Palm OS). I've got them all back now, and I can email them to my iPhone to read in my Kindle app any time I like. Yippee!!

I find these kinds of threads about BBBJ really irritating. Not because conversation about shared intimacies and health matters shouldn't be had, but because of how talk about sucking dick quickly shifts into the 'politic of the ick' (a term coined by sexologist Carol Queen). I will speak for myself. I love making out, I love having my pussy licked, I love sucking cock, alot of the time BBBJs and CIM (oh yeah baby), and, yet I do not identify as a PSE at all. Not a meaningful term to me. I'm GFE all the way. I do not make clients wear a dental dam to give me oral, and I do not put saran on my face when playing tonsil hockey. There are plenty of service providers, including popular and highly reviewed SPs who do not do BBBJ (understandable, and a very personal decision), but the idea of being concerned over providers 'being compelled' to provide BBBJs, and then omitting the way we normalize and by and large broadly accept DFK and DATY as meaningful and commonly provided services inherent to the work, (providing GFE), is problematic. Assessing the risks, negotiating the fun to be had, and getting regular health checks including throat swabs is a must. Let's not turn all SPs into victims of risky clients, and let's focus on empowering workers to enjoy working conditions where they can refuse work they deem unsafe....not to mention increasing access to non-stigmatizing STI health screening, and ongoing education. Signed, Cum lover