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I believe, tho, that we are saying the same thing: that some agencies make certain services a condition of employment, which was my point. Not all sps, however, really have that many options, shall we say, as to going independent or being hired by another agency. And I also have to include the asian micros, of which we have many here, and are cloaked within the guise of agencies in Ontario. They do not have a choice as to services, there is a SOPAM (standard operating procedure asian micros), where specific services are trained, required, advertised, expected, and to the point any sp who did not provide all (some exceptions would be greek, rimming, bbfs for example are not required, but clients may be requesting), would simply not get the appointments. If someone else is in charge of the bookings, and the employed sp is not providing the services the agency required, she does not get the booking, which to me means not at liberty to decide. If your decision is based on working or not working, that isn't really a choice. For myself, and others, the cbj is simply the boundary, i have no problem providing that only, as my health is more important than anything else to me. There are other things i also choose not to do that would probably make me more money, like 50 buck sessions lol. There is an agency nearby to me that is supposed to be a shared work place, but the 'manager' posts ads requiring back to back appts, 15 minute sessions, and so on. A requirement of not having one's own incall space, and needing a place to work out of, with limited options, is to hand over the booking process to someone who really does not care that much about your personal boundaries. And to the ones who don't want to see/read/comment on the tired old topic, the title for this thread is self explanatory. No need to click on it lol re: enforcement of the uncovered oral sex in NZ? I have to say, I doubt if you would get many sps voluntarily providing bbbjs if the result could be getting caught and facing a fine, but my first impression is that because they'd rather stay healthy and safe, they will be all over this as a regulation, you won't get too many complaining about it lol. One of the issues we have today can be linked to a lack of education about stds, transmission, testing, etc, for some groups of providers. Younger ones may have that immortal illusion that is typical of some younger people, meaning they take more risks even knowing the dangers. In NZ, education and information is a key part of disseminating the necessary information to sps and clients in brothels at least, by requiring health and safety information pamphlets, posters, and employment requirements. If the employer/manager is saying these are the conditions of employment here, these are the conditions of being a client here, it takes the unsafe options out of the hands of both sp and client.

FO, I have read most of the thread so far and both sides have very valid points. Where I have an issue with (always will) is when someone mentions that SPs don't have the liberty to choose, independent or not. We are all free to choose what works best for us and choose to do what makes us feel comfortable, what makes us feel safer and what makes us feel happier! I remember before I first started in this industry. I googled "Montreal escorts", did extensive reading and contacted quite a few agencies. I learn about terms like SAFE GFE, GFE, GFE+ and PSE and what they meant according to Montreal standars. Long story short, some agencies told me I HAD to be willing to provide BBBJ and preferably with CIM too (with swallow optional) to join their team. At the time, I wasn't comfortable with the idea of providing BBBJ so I thanked them for their time and kept looking. I did what was best for me, personally and I believe everyone can do the same if they truly desire. The agency has "service requirements" that you don't agree with? No one is forcing those ladies to stay, and preventing them to go elsewhere (or even become independent). It is a CHOICE we make to stay or go or look for an agency that will respect our boundaries and comfort levels. *Side note: of course, I am not talking about ladies with controlling pimps and/or who are being trafficked. These ladies are victims. It only drives what they provide IF they let it! They are the ones making that decison. It is their choice. Not the industry's choice. I do not know how many requests "I lost" because I do not offer CIM and/or GREEK but I did not let that loss of income get to me because that income wasn't meant for me in the first place. I was not about to compromise on anything to get that income. I can easily play the powerless victim here, start providing those activities and blame it all on the pressure of the business but I know deep down that it would be unfair and an easy way out. I could say the same about my rates... Maybe I should lower my rates to attract the general hobbyist population but my rates are my rates and I am satisfied with them, same as to the activities I share with my patrons. We all have the power to choose!

This site ONLY allows positive comments in public posts. If you do not have anything positive to say about a SP (or anything for that matter) when someone asks please simply say nothing at all. You can PM them if you wish with PRIVATE INFO but do not post publicly. You CAN NOT POST comments like I do not recommend Info on other site don't do it! stay away not worth it etc... etc.... etc......... That is NOT what this site is for. YES we know some of you would like it to be and YES we know some of you feel it is your god given right to post whatever you want on our members only board but the truth is... our house our rules and we DO NOT want it here. If you must read negative comments or if you must post negative comments then please do so on OTHER websites... or start your own. Do not PM me after I give you a warning or infraction telling me how I should run the site either (This is especially annoying with new members) yes of course mr. 1 post guy you can tell me how we should run the site you are so helpful! (NOT!) If you don't like our rules... start your own website and let us enjoy this one.

Today the Canadian government committed to a 3.5 billion dollar funding program that I am quite confident will have two diametrically opposed views, both of which are arguable and both of which are probably correct. The funding is a Canadian commitment to global maternal, newborn and child health with the goal of ending the preventable deaths of mothers and children under the age of five. I say Canadian government as opposed to the Harper government because my guess is that it will be supported by all political parties, although I have not yet read any reaction to this initiative. My initial thought is this, however politically incorrect it may be. No one, and no government can take care of others until they first take care of themselves. Perhaps this money could allow every single Canadian woman that is pregnant, access to milk and a proper diet that would translate into a healthier child. Perhaps this funding could supplement the 1 in 7 Canadian families that live in poverty in this great country. There are so many valid and critical areas in Canada that could use Canadian government support. I really do have difficulty with the idea of helping others around the world when we have so many here in this country that need help and I also realize how callous that sounds. Over the last few years at Christmas I have given a friend a goat, and have received a goat in return, with the goats being provided to a family in a foreign country as a means of providing them both food and milk and an income. This year I shall probably look for something in Canada that will help a Canadian that is truly in need. I believe that the fact of the matter is in this, as in so many areas, that though needs are HUGE everywhere, are we spreading our gifts and money so thin that we in reality are NOT making a real difference? Food for thought.

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If I can precis all of this, it's quite simple. Treat every encounter as if it was a first date with a woman with whom you wish to share intimacy. Be: Clean, punctual, deodorized, groomed, generous, modest, polite and accurate with your funds. Don't Be: A dick. Accurate?

This is a very interesting thread with valuable information that it worth reading and remembering. Thank you everyone for your contribution. If I could add a few things (without repeating what other's have said), Firs off if you want to be memorable, one aspect of that is to never be boring or robotic. It may sounds blunt (which is not my intention)... In today's very competitive industry, you cannot allow yourself to be simply boring, if you want people to remember you, you gotta make the effort to grab your potential clients attention. This can be done using a few simple methods... - First off, make sure to have a well-written and appealing ad with nice pics - Find what makes you stand out from others, what makes you unique and use it in your marketing. It may be a special menu, a different approach, or a character that people will be attracted to. Whatever it is, use it and combine it with an environment (or location) that reflects your personnality. - Pay attention to details - Become his go-to gyal or be the producer of his favorite show (learn what he likes, what turns him on, his desires and fantasies and make it happen) Make it in a way that is fun for both parties. - Establish a relationship and get to know your partner each time (we never know enough about people, and we all evolve and there's always something new to learn about ourselves and others). - Learn to put yourself at your client's place and anticipate what would make him feel comfortable and good in your presence. - Be interesting, have nice conversation, surprise him, and most of all, enjoy yourself with him. Your potential clients is probably looking for someone genuine whom he will have good chemistry with. Someone who knows how to listen & make to his desires come true (either physical, emotional or both). And also, someone who will make him live in the present moment and feel alive again. To sum up, Never be boring, be truly captivating, be unique And... Have fun with it ! Making people feel good and making them happy is rewarding so why not enjoy it and have fun with it ! I absolutely enjoy making people feel good. For those who'd interested in seeing me, this is what you should expect. Take care my darlings Eva xoxo

Schuks, you got me , and I thought I was fooling you, darn! Lol. Additional Comments: Rg the Agencies I ran and worked for were real, I paid taxes, was registered as a business and ran it as such. You didn't have to tell ladies not to perform bbbj or bare sex it was just the norm not to. Back then bbbj was as frowned upon as bare sex was , that had nothing to do with pimping. How agencies operate today may be different. I can only speak to how I knew it. Back then the ladies also asked for tips. Times change, people change and to each their own.

I get what you're saying. But there are three reasons why I'm cool with lobbing some cash outside our own borders: a) Bang for buck. When people are crushingly poor, even small and cheap improvements can make an enormous difference. Just clean water and a little education, some bags of rice. Maybe a little micro-credit to help people get small self-helping projects off the ground. Relatively tiny sums of money can make a big difference to the lives of a half-dozen, tens, or hundreds of people at a time. b) Budget allocations. I certainly agree we should spend most of Canadians' money taking care of Canadians; but if you've allocated (just making up figures here) 95% of your budget to Canada and its mothers and children, putting 5% aside for the desperate outside our borders seems totally cool to me. We don't have to keep every single crumb of our pie for ourselves. c) Self-interest: Moral and (less compellingly) security and economic payoffs. It makes Canada a good global citizen to help the less fortunate members of our vast human family. I'm not much into absolute "us" and "them"; we're all just lucky to have been born here instead of there. Plus, if we help improve the conditions and prospects for the desperate, then they're less likely to turn to violence to secure any kind of future for themselves. Economic disparity carries real risk. Finally, way down the road, the stable and growing nations that could result from aid make better markets for our stuff than millions of starving people locked in civil wars and food riots. Those last two are my weakest points: to get from subsistence aid to the desperate all the way to stable and peaceful market-nations is a long stretch. But I think it can't hurt to nudge the arc in that direction.

Last night, CBC's "The National" aired a disturbing story regarding how various strains of bacteria are now becoming resistant to antibiotics including strains of gonorrhea. The World Health Organization is becoming quite alarmed by this and are cautioning health professionals to not over prescribe antibiotics, but it appears the damage has all ready been done as strains of bacteria are becoming known as "super-bacteria's." So, in light of this, could it be possible that BBBJ's by Sp's may become a thing of the past as it could be too dangerous for them to offer this service especially if there isn't a cure for a super strain of gonorrhea? I know there are some Sp's who are not comfortable providing this service to begin with, but feel they must do so in order to remain competitive. So, what do you think CERB community about this?

I myself do not discriminate race( not judgemental at all when it comes to your nationality)...but there are some that probably do because they only date black men so maybe they are afraid of running into someone they may know on a personal level and yes some being ignorant and racist! But then again just like it is a man's.choice of what type of woman he would like to spend time with it is our choice as SP how we would like to.conduct our business I was told I loose business because I prefer to see the older mature gentlemen and.not young.men and that may be true but at the end of the day its what I feel comfortable with Xo

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I can't add anything to Old Dog's excellent precis. And I hope Roaming Guy's recent experience being left hanging was something of an aberration for him. I just want to say that this thread is an excellent example of the service provided by CERB. The posts give us insight into the difficulties experienced by the ladies we have met and are yet to meet. They also serve to remind us of how lucky we are to have access to these intelligent, charming, compassionate, and passionate, companions.

Yes you should, no one can speak to much when it comes to helping those less fortunate, here or abroad. It is giving to charities that makes you wealthy, wealthy in spirit, which has a far greater pay off than a cheque. I don't donate to very many human charities, anymore for my own reasons , although I do volunteer. I do donate to animal charities and causes globally. I am a firm believer if you have what you need and can afford to give, then do so, that's compassion. But many North Americans appear to have the attitude I had to do it my self, I had to work hard to get where I am, so can they.

Don't mix between my attitude and personality.. because my personality is me and my attitude depends on you..

If you are a married man, you should stick to cash. You could make $20 cash withdrawals from an ATM every other day to support your hobby. If your wife becomes suspicious, you can explain away those withdrawals as being lunch money. Most men have a career or a relationship that would be ruined by the "secret life" being found out; therefore, you do not want to leave any trace of your hobby. Unless you live the life of a rock'n'roll roadie, your colleagues and family will negatively judge you for being a hobbyist. Whereas a rock'n'roll roadie is expected to live on the wild side; most of us are average men with 9 to 5 jobs that do not accommodate being a hobbyist. That is why our anonymity is crucial.

Certainly the established set of rules and the excellent work if the Mod and council are major reasons for the success of this board but I also think the people who regularly come to this site value the community that has been created and want it to continue so they support the rules and the mod.... we know what an excellent resource this is and that if we don't support it the amazing SP's will not be comfortable being open here.

It doesn't bore me, in fact it amuses me. Sorry if I assumed that everyone here was a consenting adult capable of making up their own mind. If someone coerces you into doing a BBBJ physically or with threats then it is a different issue. But if you feel the need to compete and can't stick to your guns, then I have little sympathy. Again, if someone works for an agency that has a no-BBBJ policy then that is a house rule. I have no argument with that, but I do when people start using this forum to complain against people who ask for, or offer that service. What if some provider was offering "safe' Greek as an option for no additional charge, and you feel that your chocolate starfish is exit and only and won't consider it, would you get on here and lobby and complain like so many are doing here about BJ's? Again, bottom line, and something you didn't address in your response was that if a provider offers BBBJ they are not putting you at risk if all your offer is CBJ. You can try and make up all sorts of reasons why that is not true, but they would be false. You can pretend it is not about competition, but most of us know it is.

mod is the key. There is a strict no nonsense approach to things, including slander, trolling, negative attitude, and even questionable ad titles. Anyone can come here and know they can freely post, even disagree, and not be attacked by moderators with personal vendettas, or favourtism of posters who are hostile and aggressive. Nobody who says nice things about sps gets called names or gets discredited. We see that kind of behaviour on other sites all the time, question it and the whistleblower becomes the target of abuse. Blow a whistle here, and a happy parade starts :)

A big hats off is due to the Mod and Council. Theirs is not an easy task, I think often underappreciated The positivity of this site is why I'm here, and don't use any other sites any more CERB isn't a board, it's a community RG

:) it is not (and has not been) easy to do. It does take a lot of moderation and a lot of really great members.

I think that is a great summary of the overall thread :) you are very perceptive! If I could add one final thought it's to continue the "undicklike" behaviour after the encounter. If you are going to write a review keep it classy and discrete, leave the details and the YMMV in private. Most ladies do not want to feel like you are giving a virtual high 5 to your CERB buddies, bragging about how far you got. It's not a locker room :) xoxo

Gentlemen, Not to be a stick in the mud, but it might be better to invite private responses to this type of question from one of the providers. No one has expressed public shock, but some, if not all, providers may not appreciate having their most intimate physical details discussed in a public forum. If you have information that you wish to share, you might also contact the OP by PM and disseminate that in a more discrete manner. Remember gents, we are talking about human beings with feeling, emotions and personalities, not a collection of random body parts that have been assembled for your amusement.

I can live with CFS and CBJ. I have never had a BBBJ so I don't know what I am missing there. But I could not go without daty. Even the concept of protected daty seems like - whats the point. To give up kissing - not going to happen. Practice good hygiene several times a day, and talk openly with your doctor on a regular basis. Stay educated, play safe, choose SPs and other sexual partners wisely, and decide what risks are acceptable for yourself. IMO. Final word - respect the other persons boundaries and limitations. Do not question their choices or push them where they do not want to go.

Evening Folks! After a day of treatments, chemo this morning and radiation this afternoon, with blood tests throughout the day, was sitting outside with a couple of folks having a drink. Figure, what could it hurt, could not take any pain killers until bed time. Anyway Gin and Tonic has healing qualities doesn't it?? back to the question: -as we were sitting around, here they were swatting and swearing, rubbing arms, legs and hair, trying to keep the little bastards away. However, not one mosquito, not one black fly came after me!!!! I think I will write a White Paper on this when I am not puking! Should be a grant in there somewhere, however by the time it was approved, I will be more worried about worms and such! Well actually, at that point I won't be worrying at all, will I? So, the question really is, what do you do to stop the little bastards from draining your blood?? Tom The Liquor!

...has CERB been able to maintain such a positive and respectful vibe? I have been a member for very short time, but every time I come to the board and read ANY thread, it is always comforting and refreshing to know that there are a lot of good people in this industry (from both sides) who are genuine and caring. It is a breath of fresh air to get such a positive energy from people who I don't even know, and who are thousands of miles away from me. It is nice to see a lot of men have a deeper level of compassion and understanding for SPs; to see that tolerance and respect can really make a difference in the industry, it's truly inspiriting. Seeing the dynamics n this board make me see a bigger picture... If every human being could follow very simple and basic rules the world could be a better place, and that we don't always have to agree, but we can also agree to disagree respectfully. Anyway, I just wanted to acknowledge CERB, and all its members especially, the mods who are the ones keeping the order and integrity of the board. Thank you!

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That's a shame if it's closed for good; so many good memories there. But if it is just a reno and under new ownership, then I'm game to see what it will be like!

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In rmt circles, the 'house' and RMT split the price of the appointment and the RMT pays the house for use and cleaning of the linens (towels, sheets, etc.) This is pretty standard practice with the split varying (50/50, 60/40, 70/30) and is why some RMT's go independent. I can imagine something similar in the MA industry, with the exception that the House fee is paid up front and the MA accepts donations and tips from appreciated clients. The house fee is to cover costs of taxes, electricity, water, etc. Some also charge a fee for cleaning the linens. That's is expected and proven to be fair for all. Now, I am not so naive to believe that there are not those who will take advantage of another. Make illegal or unfair demands. Enforce controls on acceptable donations/tips. Personally for this reason, I am very selective of where and with whom I am a regular visitor. <I may have gotten a little side tracked from the OP. Oops.>

An asian spa/massage parlour, a legit store front biz, would be quite different from what I am thinking that is meant by the 'asian place' where the sps live and work out of the same location. MPs are staffed by citizens or resident visa sps, even tho they are all asian, they are like any other worker, live somewhere else, commute to work etc. An asian micro for example, the sps live/work at the same place, otherwise all their income is going out the door on accomodations and food. Their low rate is cut up to half, going back to the management to cover expenses, and probably to pay off whatever debt cost to come to Canada (on tourist/student visa). They work illegally, it is unlikely they are trying to draw more attention to themselves by looking for an offsite place to live as well.

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A quick message: When you seek something specific in terms of a provider, it's always best to identify the region in which you reside or travel. There may be plenty of what you look for in Kamloops, Fredericton, Regina or Rimouski but if you are in Kitchener that's probably a bit of a logistical nightmare. Once you identify the region in which you seek your desires, it might be best to post in the discussion area covering your region. Just a handy hint from an Old Dog ;)

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There is truth to this because I am one of I'm sure many who began to provide bbbj from feeling pressured, the need to be a so called "genuine" gfe and because more than not demanded it. But in saying that I could not justify allowing daty and then expecting the man to be covered. Joining cerb was an eye opener because years before, when I was involved with services, offering that service would get you fired, it wasn't allowed, ever! Now everyone, or it seems like everyone is doing it.To be honest I'd prefer it not be allowed, but who listens to me, lol!

I'm not entirely sure I understand the point of this thread - so instead of assuming I'm going to ask for clarification... Are you suggesting that there are members of this board, primarily women (given what you've written here) that only "thank" or "nominate" their friends posts, and not just anyones? Please clear that up for me, as I am unsure of your meaning :)

I was reluctant to respond to this as then we go into more details about individual business models but I will try and do it in a way so as not to put anyone in an awkward position. You are quite right there is case law regarding a lower court ruling that an HJ received in a licensed body rub was not a sexual service. The famous Bill Clinton defense, which in my mind is absolutely stupid and illogical, but regardless the ruling was made. And you are right it has not been appealed, probably because of the Bedford case and they want to fight one war at a time. Regardless that ruling was a criminal ruling on a specific event that took place in a Licensed body rub and much was made about the policeman's conduct in that case as well. It had nothing to do with local regulation of body rubs. Cities still have the right to limit the number of spas and the activities that take place in a body rub. In many jurisdictions in Ontario they explicitly rule out touching the genitals, breasts or anal area of customers. And that is well within their rights. That is not in the Ottawa by-law but it does state that attendants must be dressed in clean clothing at all times. It also regulates lighting levels etc. So showers together, nude attendants, body slides etc are reasons for having your licensed pulled and being shut down even if the only release offered is manual. That is if you have a license. If you are unlicensed then the city could shut you down at anytime. That is if you are offering a body rub. If you are using some other legal loophole such as the SCC ruling on "swing clubs" you might be safe. However if someone made the case that one of the parties in the private club was not a member but actually paid, then that is a whole different ball of wax, and could lead to problems. So that being said, I will say one more time, no spa that I know of in Ottawa, licensed or unlicensed complies with the regulations regarding the activities that go on within the spas. They all advertise activities that are not allowed. So to perpetuate the myth that HJ's are OK, but anything else is not, is false. Why does LE or bylaw leave them alone? Most likely because as long as they operate as they do now, and the authorities receive no third-party complaints it is not worth their effort. Much the same as Strip Clubs where by requlation there must be a sign posted that warns of no touching between customer and dancers, and advising that sexually transmitted infections can be transmitted through unprotected physical contact. But we all know that contact goes on, it is expected. By-law and LE will not take action until they get a complaint.

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This is probably something that has been posted before. I don't know and am too lazy to check old threads. But it occurs to me after the last couple days that we sometimes take for granted that an escorts life is all peaches and cream. They set up a nice incall location, post an ad, the calls come in and the clients show up. They pay, play and everybody is happy. The lady tidies up and ready for the next lucky fella. Kind of a lather, rinse, repeat scenario. Or the lady goes on tour, sets herself up in a nice discreet hotel location and pretty much the same thing. Well, yesterday, I came across a few things that made me realize that this isn't always the case. I read (on a different board) a story of a touring lady running into one mishap after another and because of it all, actually barely breaking even while on her first week on tour. Another story of a lady who received a man at her door who rudely told her she wasn't as hot as her pictures and too old (although her website is clearly defined with her age, body type and well laid out photos). The loser walked and business lost. I posted something on here that cheered someone up (no names needed) who had a rough go this weekend and was feeling a little down. I didn't even realize I was doing something nice at the time but glad I did. I guess my point here is that we all need to step back sometimes and put ourselves in other peoples shoes. We say things on message boards and do things in life possibly without any ill intent but our words and actions often effect even the strongest of people. We all get our feelings hurt and lose our self confidence and it might behoove all of us to say a kind word now and then for no other reason but to just help our fellow human beings out. Most on here are pretty aware of all of this and are pretty good at keeping things positive so this isn't directed at anyone. Just a general thought is all. Okay, my rambling is over, lol. Go back to having fun y'all.

Sorry, but I believe that using a credit card will eventually come back to bite you in the ass.

Meg makes a good point. Also to the best of my knowledge, it may not be so easy for a SP to get a Merchants Account for processing credit cards and Paypal...not to mention the risk that some clients may after the encounter call the cc company and report a stolen card. I also believe Paypal won't knowingly process any Paypal transaction if discovered it is used for adult services. If someone knows otherwise I will stand corrected RG

How about email money transfers? Anonymous both ways as opposed to credit card payments. With the credit card scenario, The provider can create a name to suit the client but vice versa, not so much. Receiving credit card payments isn't that anonymous.

I find these kinds of threads about BBBJ really irritating. Not because conversation about shared intimacies and health matters shouldn't be had, but because of how talk about sucking dick quickly shifts into the 'politic of the ick' (a term coined by sexologist Carol Queen). I will speak for myself. I love making out, I love having my pussy licked, I love sucking cock, alot of the time BBBJs and CIM (oh yeah baby), and, yet I do not identify as a PSE at all. Not a meaningful term to me. I'm GFE all the way. I do not make clients wear a dental dam to give me oral, and I do not put saran on my face when playing tonsil hockey. There are plenty of service providers, including popular and highly reviewed SPs who do not do BBBJ (understandable, and a very personal decision), but the idea of being concerned over providers 'being compelled' to provide BBBJs, and then omitting the way we normalize and by and large broadly accept DFK and DATY as meaningful and commonly provided services inherent to the work, (providing GFE), is problematic. Assessing the risks, negotiating the fun to be had, and getting regular health checks including throat swabs is a must. Let's not turn all SPs into victims of risky clients, and let's focus on empowering workers to enjoy working conditions where they can refuse work they deem unsafe....not to mention increasing access to non-stigmatizing STI health screening, and ongoing education. Signed, Cum lover

I reread the article wrong so my apologies. I've erased my first comment In the end and it's been said thousands of times, multiple partners will cause risks, no matter what type of sex you are having. We all have to be proactive about our health and bodies. Everything we do involves risk and most is choice so liked or not, risky or not I'm sure it'll continue with favor:)In the end, what you choose is your business what I choose is mine and I don't think much is going to change that. http://jezebel.com/5946480/rethinking-the-blow-job-condoms-or-gonorrhea-take-your-pick

I mentionned this as a highlight of the day a few days ago... My mom is suffering from Alzeimer and she's at a stage where she needs more care...my sister called me and asked me if I could give her a bath. My younger sister is always there for my parents but it was a cry for help as she was saying that was one thing she could not do! I told her I would do it and felt pretty confident I could convince my mom... She was a bit reluctant at first but got her in the bath and joked around...she was all smiles after and thanked me many times...she doesnt have a short term memory anymore but for some reason I know she will remember that bath and ask for more...seeing her happy and my dad too as I took some weight off his shoulder...that was one HAPPY DAY!! to top it off...my 2 sisters called me to thanked me saying they knew I could pul it off :D It was a very happy moment! BJ xxx

Had an occasion a few years back where I arrived at the lady's location, went in and there was a child sitting on the couch watching television. I asked "what gives" and she said, "it's okay, he won't disturb us, he'll sit and watch cartoons". The whole situation creeped me out and I handed the lady a twenty for her troubles said "sorry" and walked out. Perhaps I was wrong but it felt right at the time, and I'd probably do exactly the same thing if the situation ever repeated itself.