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I have read the entire tread and if I have done any of those to any gents I have met and they read this..I apologize in advance(I know I have been guilty to not reply fast enough at time due to my travels) I personally do not like the babe Hun etc name when I never met someone however it seem it the new type of intro some guys do. I try in general not to use those words as I hate them... My usual reply to text like that is Hello it's Victoria ..how can I help you ? I know it may sound cold however nice introduction always help to smooth a convo

One that is a turn off for me is when the SP and I are in the "act" and she begins to tell me to "cum for me baby" right after the act has begun. I really enjoy the intimacy of two people intertwined and I like this to last a little longer than 60 secs. As I am a little older now, it ain't going to happen in 60 secs. but this can be a real turn off for me, even to the point of wilting, if you know what I mean.

They know that. They also know that any legal challenge to the laws will take a decade, more or less, before the SCC rules on it... by which time it'll be someone else's problem. This isn't an effort to solve any problems. It's just kicking the can down the road.

Gents there is a phone number posted on this ad . Why not call and ask the correct questions ? Even better stick with a recommended Cerb lady . I am not trying to say Cerb ladies are the only answers to your prayers . However as some one that does not have the opportunity to be on here as much as I should I continuously see questions about this lady or that one from another site . Guys you already have a really good idea about most of the ladies on here and if you don't I bet its pretty easy to find out via PM. It always astounds me to see you novice and senior hobbyists questioning ladies from other sites and they are sometimes sketchy with quite a low donation . More than many times I see that gents have been burned and disappointed with the time spent with these bargains. Gee on a larger scale when I was younger and wanted to travel to exotic destinations I " dreamed of a less expensive place and hoped I'd have a wonderful vacation. Alas it was usually a pipe dream. Now I book only high quality and proven resorts . These past few years have been my best vacations . I expect quality and I pay for quality . Some how I have not been able to find a " cheap bargain " Food for thought!

The Hun, dear, sweets, pet names don't bother me. They are actually quite endearing. Lack of attentiveness (seeming preoccupied), televisions blaring or cell phones ringing make me feel less than important and in some way unwelcome. Soft music, candles etc. have the opposite effect on me. A lady not seeming to be ready when I arrive - "wait, I'll only be a minute" or a messy incall are also turnoffs. To much perfume or sickly sweet air fresheners (usually used to disguise tobacco smoke) are also a turnoff.

Ladies can call me whatever works for them, it is the service that I enjoy. Biggest turn-off at the beginning, is being told to wait... and wait and wait. Not a great start. I would say the next is the absence of some basic services that I thought we agreed to. Kissing, Daty, etc. Anyway, I tried to avoid this by asking more questions, but think sometimes this might irritate the ladies. Additional Comments: Ladies can call me whatever works for them, it is the service that I enjoy. Biggest turn-off at the beginning, is being told to wait... and wait and wait. Not a great start. I would say the next is the absence of some basic services that I thought we agreed to. Kissing, Daty, etc. Anyway, I tried to avoid this by asking more questions, but think sometimes this might irritate the ladies.

This site ONLY allows positive comments in public posts. If you do not have anything positive to say about a SP (or anything for that matter) when someone asks please simply say nothing at all. You can PM them if you wish with PRIVATE INFO but do not post publicly. You CAN NOT POST comments like I do not recommend Info on other site don't do it! stay away not worth it etc... etc.... etc......... That is NOT what this site is for. YES we know some of you would like it to be and YES we know some of you feel it is your god given right to post whatever you want on our members only board but the truth is... our house our rules and we DO NOT want it here. If you must read negative comments or if you must post negative comments then please do so on OTHER websites... or start your own. Do not PM me after I give you a warning or infraction telling me how I should run the site either (This is especially annoying with new members) yes of course mr. 1 post guy you can tell me how we should run the site you are so helpful! (NOT!) If you don't like our rules... start your own website and let us enjoy this one.

By being here or writing reviews after the Nordic model comes to pass

To me, Seduction is... A powerful aphrodisiac... It is the build up of sensual tension, the anticipation of pleasure to come... Seduction is a connection between 2 souls... If you seek the right chemistry, allow yourself to be seduced first... ;-)

I just love how succulent they are :) Additional Comments: I also love hearing a woman enjoying having them licked and sucked...Plus it helps get my tongue warmed up LOL :)

As will you, apparently. I can't speak to pimping; I have not directly experienced or witnessed such a thing. However, I did know a provider who preferred not to see blue (because really, what does the specific race matter?) male clients, because she had once been assaulted by a blue man. It wasn't explicitly advertised that she wouldn't see blue men, but she could often ascertain a client's race via screening methods. She knew that she didn't want to take the risk of having a client who would remind her of her assailant. I also knew a provider who came from a small, close-knit community, and preferred not to see clients from that same community, because she didn't want to risk encountering someone who might know her in "real" life. So, let's not jump to conclusions. There are a myriad of reasons why someone might choose to exclude certain clients.

I don't think you have anything to worry about just yet. The bill has to pass through Parliament & then Senate so it's not a done deal. I think the constitutionality of a new bill (especially this one) will be under the microscope. LE probably don't make any investigative moves retroactively prior to new law being enacted. They would be chasing their tails trying to prove criminal activity before something is actually considered a criminal offense. They also have to decide how to enforce new law. Will they use this forum as a tracker tool - they probably already do but so what?.... How many Senators (remember Wilbur Keon?), Ministers, Politicians, Backroom boys are clients themselves? What do you wanna bet those guys are gonna be chewing their nails about keeping their jobs if they pass an unpopular or stupidly draconian bill.

I'm guilty of not visiting my favorite groups often but, dog lovers in particular doesn't get any attention, imo, as do many:( So I stopped going, perhaps it's time to visit more:)

The common point that people make is that sp's are more informed and vigilant - some are and some are not It's often compared against picking up women in clubs who are less informed. Anyone giving bbbjs is in contact with potentially infected tissue More often than can reasonably be assumed when u r meeting some one in a bar I also don't thjnk that wanting information is ever really an issue wanting to be informed is the best way to protect every body's health.

Yes it will take time, I agree...BUT it s also going to take time for me to make my own changes. I would see my lawyer as I need to understand and prepare to make changes for my business. I am an agency in a very small town, so if they are going through with Nordic model I need to know exactly what "benefiting off others" is going include. Not just the girls who work here that pay me their fee, but also to the person I am paying my rent to. This is not the case for INDY providers, but I strongly feel agency's can become a target for them to watch closely, whereas I am stationary and do not travel it would be much easier for LE to gather info and harass my clients. Granted, they have their hands full with looking at the agency's who cause disturbances, minors etc. Besides, should it not be expected that I would, as a business owner who have many people depending on the fact I keep myself in the know, to protect the people that surround my business and especially protecting my clients that come and go from my location? It's the whole reason I have a lawyer in the first place.

Nordic Model proponents do not really believe that it's "okay" to sell sexual services. In fact, quite the opposite. The ideology believes that all sex workers are victims of male violence, pimps, mental issues, and "the patriarchy". It's grandiose purpose is unabashedly the complete outright abolition of sex work. It's plan is to achieve this by scaring clients from buying sexual services (with criminalisation), and therefor ending all demand for sexual services. Those who want to introduce a Nordic Model style of law to Canada believe that through basic legislation and criminalisation, Canada will be the only place on earth without prostitution. Here is a simple fact sheet about why we strongly oppose the failed Nordic model: http://chezstella.org/docs/Infosheets/En/ciminalizing_the_purchase_140322.pdf And here is a fact sheet about the "New Zealand model", which we propose (full decriminalisation of sex work): http://chezstella.org/docs/Infosheets/En/new_zealand_140322.pdf And yes, post Bedford decision, a Nordic style law will be challenged, and will not pass constitutional muster. Canada will have decriminalisation of sex work, maybe soon, maybe in 15 years. Truth is, clients are already criminalised through bawdy house laws and solicitation laws. They do not stop clients from purchasing sexual services, and the SCC said those laws were unconstitutional. This kind of law would be too. I'm really waiting to see what the new legislation will be, before getting ahead of myself though. It's coming down this week.

The new legislation is being presented this week. Let's wait to see what the new legislation actually IS, before we get ahead of ourselves. I'll post again when it comes down, along with a brief from our Canadian sex worker rights legal team about what it will actually mean for all of us. Follow or check out @CDNSWAlliance for all the latest. This is an alliance of all the main sex worker advocacy and rights groups from across the country. You don't need to have a Twitter account to see their tweets or click the links they post.

All-in you are 100% correct!. Usually they are up to no good and are looking for girls to pimp. I've experience this myself so I stay away.

I must say that, even with the old established laws, I found most lawyers to be totally clueless. Let's see what shakes out, and then find and share the lawyers that actually know what they're doing.

If you find two ladies who are duo partners, to see, tell them what you want, and they may be able to assist you in finding a male for your MMFF. Of course keep in mind they have to be comfortable with the idea too Good Luck RG

In the spirit of open discussion - why with no MM touching? I see what an MFF threesome adds to the mix, and I see what would be added to the mix in an MMFF foursome with MM touching, but I don't see what's added with no MM touching - for you, that is, I see what could be added for the FFs. Welcome to CERB, by the way - this isn't a a criticism or an attack, just a friendly question.

I have to frequently (once every couple months) get blood work done for a medical condition I have. I get tested at the same time...kill two birds with one stone I get handed the lab requisition from my doctor to take with me to the lab After seeing the form it's not rocket science, any one with bare computer abilities could make up their own fake lab form and show this to a SP/Client to say they are STI/STD free. Even showing a form doesn't prove you have been tested...you have no way of knowing if the form is real or fake. BTW not a work of an active imagination. No names (legally bound :-( ) but there is a criminal, HIV positive, who told his girlfriend he was STD/STI free and showed the lab results...mind you he made the sheet up. He did this to have bareback sex with her. She got infected, has AID's and he now has AID's and at least, small comfort, but is doing time. So even the showing of a lab sheet isn't necessarily proof Best practice Everyone is responsible for their own sexual health, don't count on others to do it for you A rambling RG

She is totally worth the drive ;) lovely friendly lady. She will make sure you leave happy and relaxed!

Holy badonk a donks, picture number three:) I want those! Beautiful.

No more than a gentleman writing a recommendation now about a lady he saw at her incall which is technically illegal Or ads for escort agencies...I'm no lawyer but I believe illegal (living off the avails) Whether it's current law or new law, don't expect the police all of a sudden to be extra motivated to go after anyone in this lifestyle, be it companion or lady The new law is merely a political response to the SCC decision If it's going to be a new law enforcement priority, then expect the government (federal, provincial and municipal) to increase spending to give to police departments the resources needed to enforce the new laws. If they didn't see it as a priority before, don't count on it as a priority now Just my opinion RG

Good question, if the Nordic model were to pass and my understanding of it correct, that le will then target clients, sadly, then perhaps they could use internet trails for prosecuting . A stretch perhaps. But also a possibility? I'll be interested in the responses. Personally, no matter which way the gavel swings, I'm here if they want me, no hiding, and I won't change my ways to conform to those with sticks up their asses:)

An invitation to visit the social group area on cerb. There's been lots of new posts in many of them, and you will find something you like! :)

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Probably not, as you know we are paid for time . Its a lot of time to go to NB spend the day and return for one client, Sorry !

Are you talking about highsexdrivebabe? She's on here maybe worth it to look abd see if they are the same lady?

I'm not sure who your reply is addressing but I'll respond by saying that most of us don't define our relationships by dictionary terms and standards. Of course everyone is going to respond and see those terms differently. Your example is understandable, but we could also say the mother loves and accepts her son for being the way he is. No she doesn't condone his behavior but she understands and accepts that he has flaws, she loves him. Some of us who don't separate the two would look at it that way, neither is wrong. However those who speak professionally about these topics would probably see it differently:) We all love in our own ways, for our own needs, some more than others, some don't at all. What ever brings you happiness and peace is what you should seek:)

Then , next time reflect over what you have heard before communicating it to others. Furthermore in communicating it, do so properly in order to leave no doubt as to what is meant.

Play one other hypothetical here. The companion is married She is married to a black man Her husband is unaware of her profession (he thinks she is a MA, but not a SP) In her city it has a small black community, and her husband has relatives and friends in that community The lady doesn't want to run a real risk of running into her husband's family/friends There can be all sorts of reasons, not all necessarily racist. So don't assume the worst...you don't know To quote Oscar Wilde, "When you assume you make an ass out of u and me" A rambling RG

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The second part of my recent trip to South Asia was an encounter with Anjali at Vibe Urban Spa. My first visit - same level of ambiance / comfort I am used to from CMJ, which was nice. Another wonderful experience ( I don't seem to have that many that go south - innuendo unintended ). Again, my recent "interest" in ample breasts (see Part 1) was immediately satisfied. Anjali has glorious tits and I must say I found myself quite hot and bothered. I'm usually a bit more laid-back... an "enjoying-the-moment" kind-a-guy.. but boob play in the shower soon turned into some acrobatics that I didn't have proper time to stretch for. Yes, I'm getting old! LOL! And Anjali also has an adorable, spankable ass.. so I did. And that was fun too! : ) Hope to repeat before she leaves at the end of June.

They say with this lifestyle, YMMV. Mine varied to the very, positive right. Holy hell. This woman puts an exclamation point on service. She was a little late, but told me she would make up for it. Boy, did she ever. MSOG: check. Enthusiastic: check. Attentive: check. Newfoundland has made its mark with me through Savannah. If I ever come back, you can rest assured I will be banging on her door as hard as I can...maybe dragging her sexy friends out with us to party a little wilder. I'll be howling at the moon like a goddamned wolf. Advice: see Savannah.

It's entirely possible to live without love. The effect of such a life varies depending on the person. Human beings are herd animals by nature; our survival as a species has always depended on us working in a group, since none of us alone was faster or stronger than the predators out there. As a result, we've evolved mental processes that make us tend to herd-friendly behaviour. Most of us want the assurance that we have a place in the herd and are connected to our herd-mates. The result is a high psychological value placed on connections to others -- friendship, love, and the validation of the community we belong to. For most people, that makes having love and a connection to other people indispensable. We can be alive without it, but if we do then we sense that our life is lacking an essential quality. Most people when deprived of caring relationships fall into depression. Some people started out inclined that way but circumstances changed them so that they avoid those connections. I can think of a couple of guys I know who were so traumatized by rejections or betrayals in their 20s that they swore off relationships forever. (If you asked them, they would describe the process differently.) Their subsequent relationships with women were superficial and usually brief; they held the women in their lives at arms' length so that they couldn't be hurt. (Again, they would describe what they were doing differently.) They never did find love again, and declare they're quite happy without it. They pour that energy into other pursuits (careers of course, or various collections, cars, technology, and other safe things). They say they are happy and, while I suspect they're missing something, who am I to say their lives are being lived wrong? Just differently and in a way that now works for them. Finally, other people start out wired in such a way that they genuinely don't care about love, or don't have the modules in their brains to experience it. These can be the heavily autistic, some of the mildly autistic, or sociopaths and psychopaths, or people with other psychological makeups that don't have a name or diagnosis. This doesn't necessarily prevent them from being talented and productive. And I think that probably Newton and Tesla fall in there somewhere; people who were so deeply invested in their fields, and reaped such pleasure and other psychological rewards from its pursuit, that nothing else really mattered. Spending time pursuing romance probably would have been a waste of their time. Nothing made them happier and more fulfilled than their work. They lived without love and, overall, I think were as happy as those who do have love in their lives. Just as there are people who are completely asexual and don't miss sex that others find indispensable to happiness, I think there can be healthy people who simply aren't wired to care much about love. (I think speculation that they might have been gay makes too big a leap. I mean, maybe -- we can't know -- but it assumes they must have had some sexuality, and it leaves out the middle ground of "they were just geniuses who were very deeply preoccupied with other things"). People are SO complicated and varied. There's never one answer to what "people" can or can't do, or what they need for their unique happiness.

a turnoff for me is arriving and find that the SP or MA is either high as a kite, or drunk as a skunk. might just be me, but I don't find it professional to be doing that when your providing a service.

Jeebus. I must be part Newf. Those terms of endearment are central to my means of addressing people. I think, if taken in its purest form, the act of endearing someone by saying "hun", "sweets", "darling" or even *gasp* "babe"... is a genuine form of drawing someone closer. By doing so, you aren't trying to demean or diminish them - you are letting them know that your intention is to be inclusive, that they mean something to you. In short, they like you!!!

Pretty much all of the above but mostly faking. I don't want some generic, "oh baby, oh baby, oh god" fake orgasm crap. I would honestly prefer the lady say, "that isn't doing it for me hon, let's try this or that". And if nothing works, so be it. At least I know what not to do or what needs working on and don't go through life thinking I'm good when I'm not. Any lady I've been with, I have expressed my need for that honesty up front. The other thing is this. Enjoy what you are doing or get out of the biz, imo. When you hate your job, it comes out of you in waves for everyone to see and feel.

EMail (confirmation email) not returned in a timely manner. And no, I don't expect immediate replies to emails, but when it is coming down to the crunch, travel, leave, and hotel need to be confirmed, I need to get confirmation that the lady is going to show up Lady shows up at your hotel, providing a less than good encounter, saying "I gotta pay the bills hun, gotta pay the bills" Nothing like feeling like a wallet Another encounter, lady once she received the donation, says "now I can buy groceries" And again, nothing like feeling like your nothing but a wallet The pièce de résistance was a lady showing up, smelling of cigarette smoke, she asked to use mouthwash and all was fine...about an hour into a three hour encounter she asked if she could go out for a smoke break. Me being me, I said OK, she left with her purse, never came back...it wasn't so much losing $500.00 as it was being ripped off of an encounter All that said, my encounters overall have been terrific and recommendation worthy, and I focus on those positive memories instead of these few aberrations and am thankful to those ladies who made and make this a wonderful lifestyle and experience A rambling RG

From RHAG, our redhead social group

Gentlemen, Not to be a stick in the mud, but it might be better to invite private responses to this type of question from one of the providers. No one has expressed public shock, but some, if not all, providers may not appreciate having their most intimate physical details discussed in a public forum. If you have information that you wish to share, you might also contact the OP by PM and disseminate that in a more discrete manner. Remember gents, we are talking about human beings with feeling, emotions and personalities, not a collection of random body parts that have been assembled for your amusement.

Um... Like I said, I didn't want to assume to understand your intentions so I asked. Your explanation has come across that you've written lots of threads and posts and are trying to figure out what makes people click thank or nominate a post, and if they don't because they don't like the OP. I will speak only for myself - I am an adult, who has no time for drama or childish behavior. Therefore I don't have the time to had select which threads or posts I'm going to thank or nominate based on a like it dislike system. If it resonates with me and who I am, then I thank it. If it's considerate and touching, then I thank it. If it really touches me deeply, or makes so much sense to me it's awe inspiring, then I nominate it. And when the mood strikes I respond. Or start my own thread. I am still not clear what thanking posts and nominating posts has to do with supporting others within this industry. Yes, there are those who have formed bonded friendships. But that's not the point. I, for example, am a person who truly believes we get what we give. I believe in mutual respect and acceptance, regardless of differences. The golden rule: Do unto others... I have dignity and confidence in who I am. I encourage safe experiences equally among the sex workers I am associated with. I make recommendations to valued clients so they may have safe, pleasurable experiences too. I don't waste my time or energy on competition or ownership. I am me. Those who choose to see me do so at their own free will. Those who choose to associate with me (or not) do so at their own free will. In short, so I support SP's and hobbiests having a safe, pleasureable and mutually beneficial time in this industry? Of course I do. Do I think it has anything to do with thanking or nominating posts, or replying to threads? Not for me it doesn't!

I'm not entirely sure I understand the point of this thread - so instead of assuming I'm going to ask for clarification... Are you suggesting that there are members of this board, primarily women (given what you've written here) that only "thank" or "nominate" their friends posts, and not just anyones? Please clear that up for me, as I am unsure of your meaning :)

You should:) She has amazing boobies and I'm sure many other qualities that'll make you or any of the other gents happy men. Any of you who ask about a lady I hope would be generous enough to reco about your experience if worthy so others can also enjoy and so the lady in question can benefit that way everyone wins. Happy hobbying:)

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