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Hmmm, I don't know how to say this without upsetting anyone. I get that MJL wanted to take some sort of action. I commend you for stepping up to the plate and filling (what you thought) was a gap in the discussion. However, I have to say that the major issue with the happy hooker narratives is when the anti-sex workers employ these arguments, "If you are so happy with your job why aren't you out and proud as a sex worker?" Well there are a lot of reasons why, the main one, criminalization. As a sex worker, if you are charged with any prostitution related charges, then you will not be able to cross the border. If you are a mother and you are outed as a sex worker, you may potentially lose your children or access to your children. If you are a sex worker and are working other forms of employment, you could lose your other forms of employment. If you are a sex worker and a student, you could potentially damage your future career--yes some sex workers only do this part time and to help fund schooling. If you are a sex worker and you volunteer with certain organizations (or want to volunteer with certain organizations), sometimes those require background checks and/or a "clean" criminal record. Some sex workers are alienated from their family/friends and/or their personal/professional relationships are harmed and they are pushed further to isolation and alienation. Not everyone can be out and proud because of the risk of criminalization which contributes to stigmatization, alienation, and isolation especially for the most marginalized sex work populations. There are so many other things you could lose access to if you are out and proud as a sex worker like access to equitable health care, access to housing, access to safety and security, access to social supports--this isn't just about a few sex workers who can afford all the nice things in life, plus happiness and more. While I get that the intentions were good and that someone wanted to have their story heard, that could have been done in many ways that does not feed into these anti-sex work narratives. The antis and the government HAVE already said that if you are safe and it was criminal before, then what is the problem with sex work STILL being criminal, As quoted by Hillyer, "In the sex worker's letter...if these people are already willing to give their information during this illegal activity, I am not sure why they would not under this new legislation." The site says, "a happy hooker is a safe hooker" and if this all that is needed, then I am certain that the antis will also say, "well, you don't have to have your work decriminalized for your safety then" and they already HAVE made this argument plenty of times--they always argue, "this is for the victims!" and this is what the happy hooker site contributes to--these happy hooker/victim narratives. The site basically says that sex work doesn't need to be decriminalized and supports the intent of the Bill, which is "to protect the victims and if you aren't a victim, then you don't have to worry! The Bill doesn't worry about you!" You can be a proud sex worker/hooker/whatever but when we feed into these larger discourses, we run the risk of hurting the case for decriminalization which is access to rights not access to happiness. I hope, Jessica, you realize that nobody is attacking you personally. I also hope what I said was clear and if you have any questions/comments/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me or reply here.

Inducement or not, Genevieve does bring up an amazing point. VOTE. VOTE. VOTE. I had a conversation with a provider just last weekend, and she claimed that she was sick and tired of the way that the current government was ruining her life. I asked her how she voted in the last federal election, knowing that she was of legal age at the time of the last ballot. She claimed that she did not vote, that she thought it was stupid. I retorted that if that was the case, she had absolutely NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. If you don't cast a ballot, you can't bitch about what we get as a government. You obviously don't care. If you did care, you would do your damndest to get a government that cares about your needs. It's 15 months until October 2015, BUT.... we have the power to begin the end of this government. Find a local politician representing your views. Support them. Canvas for them. Fund parties other than the CPC. Talk to friends and colleagues about the disgust you have for the current government. Bill C36 is just one of the countless ways that the current government has disregarded the opinions and desires of the Canadian public. Research their legacy. It's BAD. In Ottawa alone they are responsible for the loss of well over 20,000 well paid jobs. They wanted to abolish the senate but filled it with their corrupt friends. They turned the cyber bullying legislation into a way to spy on EVERY ONE OF US. Joy Smith wants you to have to contact the internet companies to opt into porn. That's evangelical censorship. I am sure that you could find countless other fuck ups by the current government... from fighter jets to foreign workers, senate scandals to supreme court stacking... this is just a BAD GOVERNMENT. Sign up and support the other parties now to end the tyranny!

and that has been my point all along. That you guys couldn't see the point of the comments that were being made. I can't be more clear than that, and I really dislike when I see someone trying to downplay the intentions of those who commented prior to the changes on the site. I guess I was expecting some kind of statement with an apology or thank you to those who pointed out the flaws in it. You need to be reminded that no one is saying your intentions weren't worthy, just the execution of it was flawed enough to create debate. That alone should have gotten y'all to sit up and look it over. There was never any need to get so defensive & you all came out offensive, that's all. The only reason I am commenting, for the most part, has nothing to do with you or MFF, it is for the other readers. Whatever the topic, I feel that what was said or done is being misrepresented by various comments, obviously i will speak up. That is what people are used to seeing when I post lol I doubt if I will change. This is cerb, we don't expect attacks when we post, btw. i thought everyone was being very reasonable when they made their comments. Clearly, the main page was changed. There must have been validity in those comments, is all I'm saying.

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We had the province send our dad a notice to be retested, it was not connected to us. He failed and didn't drive again, but he ranted for years about the "stupid kid" who examined him being biased against old people. Good for you for taking this seriously! At the park yesterday saw an older woman who clearly should not have been driving. She was up on a sidewalk in an area filled with toddlers and babies in strollers. People tried to direct her and it was an uncomfortable scene, she was arguing and defensive.

It sounds like high school here. Ladies, stop attacking eachother. Lets focus. You are taking energy away from the mission at hand. Lets get back to work shakl we.......

Your feelings don't matter. How I feel about sex work, how you feel about sex work, how the antis feel about sex work--doesn't matter. You can write your letters about being happy until you're blue in the face, but they still don't matter. We can certainly feel offended and upset, but at the end of the day what matters is the laws cause harm. When you view sex work as work, feelings are irrelevant to the discussion. What matters are labour rights.

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I was biting my tongue up until this point because I didn't see the point of continuing when you were so intent on finding things to be offended about rather than considering what people were finding problematic. However, you don't see anything rude or disrespectful about what you posted? I personally took offense to your comment about "people who do sweet fuck all" -- because you have NO idea of what people have or have not contributed. Nor is it an excuse for you to dismiss their valid concerns.

I don't see anywhere I was rude or disrespectful or offensive, or defensive in fact if you read the thread again you will see that most often many of you were complaining because I allegedly "ignored" you..... I do see some seriously catty posts from others. Like this one for example... As I'm a sex worker, my feelings about sex work DO matter, but I refused to be baited and I think that frustrated people. Most recently I was politely responding to a comment by another member. It wasn't directed to you or any other poster. As clearly indicated by my quoting her specific comments. Please don't respond for her. If the preamble satisfies you then I'm not puzzled as to why you chose to keep bringing up a conflict that has been resolved.

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Really it's more a Highlight Of The Weekend...and that was a, well a romantic weekend escape with Emily Rushton. I had a wonderful time with this special lady and friend My recommenation to be forthcoming in the next few days Thanks Em for spending the weekend with me...it was definitely memorable and perfect RG

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Dear Jessica and All, I commend everyone's desire to fight Bill C36 -- but this IS NOT a strategic way to go about doing so. I understand that it is frustrating to always have your work stigmatized as 'bad', and to hear that we are all 'victims' and 'exploited'. However, instead of fighting this rhetoric, you are actually reinforcing it. Street-based and 'survival sex workers' -- the same as yourselves -- do not want or deserve to be stigmatized and criminalized in these ways. By making a distinction between 'happy' and 'unhappy' hookers, you are reinforcing the same stereotypes that we all want and need to fight against. In fact, a colleague from Stella originally thought that the website was fake, and put up by sex work prohibitionists who support Bill C36 - because it reinforces pro-C36 arguments instead of fighting against them. IT DOES SERVICE TO NO ONE to push a 'happy hooker' movement, especially at this current moment when we are fighting Bill C36. In the Bedford case, the Supreme Court of Canada struck down three key provisions of the Criminal Code - bawdy house, communication, and living on the avails - because they were found to violate the Charter rights to SAFETY AND SECURITY for sex workers. Because sex workers faced undo harm as a result of these laws, the SCC found these provisions unconstitutional. Bill C36 is supposed to be a response to the Bedford decision, and as such must ensure the safety and security of sex workers. By putting forward a "Happy Hooker" movement, those involved are actually supporting Bill C36, because you are not recognizing the harms done to ALL sex workers through this legislation. It doesn't matter whether we as sex workers are 'happy' or not, or whether we like our job or not -- WHAT MATTERS IS THAT WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAFETY AND SECURITY, and Bill C36 will only reinforce the same harms that sex workers have been facing for decades. I haven't had a chance to read through this entire thread, but I wanted to let you and others know that Maggie's DOES NOT support this 'Happy Hooker' campaign. Maggie's supports the right of ALL SEX WORKERS to live and work with safety and dignity - whether they are classified (or classify themselves) as 'high end', 'happy', 'indoor', 'having mixed feelings', 'just paying the bills', 'street-based', 'outdoor', 'combination indoor/outdoor' etc etc. WE REFUSE to throw so-called 'survival sex workers' under the bus in order to push some idealistic notion of a 'happy hooker'. Sex workers, just like any other worker, may sometimes enjoy their job, may not enjoy it, may be happy some days, and less happy others. Sex workers have been organizing for their rights and against stigma and criminalization for decades and decades in Canada. There is a strong and growing sex worker rights' movement in Canada. I encourage everyone to get involved and become educated about issues facing all different kinds of sex workers. We are stronger together. Please do not reinforce the stigma and violence that street-based and/or 'survival' sex workers face. Please take down the 'Happy Hooker' website. Maggie's has never been onside or in support of initiatives such as this which are divisive and dismissive. We believe in working towards solidarity between sex workers, and different kinds of sex workers. We believe in the right of ALL sex workers to safety and security, and will continue to work for ALL sex workers to live and work with safety and dignity. Sincerely, Jean McDonald Executive Director, Maggie's - Toronto Sex Workers' Action Project maggiestoronto.ca [email protected]

Frankly I'm tired of what Peter Mackay thinks is best for me. While I agree with the notion that there should not be any type of hierarchy where sex work is concerned, I do think that those who do this for a living and are happy with their line of work should be heard. While no job is perfect and everyone has their moments, I'm content with what I do for a living and this is about legislation, NOT moral legislation! I will be writing a letter based on the fact that I have a right to voice my opinion not just as a sex worker but a Canadian citizen. I don't believe in different sets of legislation for different types of sex workers because at the end of the day we are all providing the same service. However, I do agree that our experiences need to be told to show such people as Joy Smith that we cannot all be painted with the same brush regarding stigmatization. No two sex workers are the same but the Conservative government seems to think so. I encourage other ladies to write a letter in order to be heard. Let's not make this a debate on street workers v.s. Indoor workers rather women who make up this industry and have the right to be heard. Posted via Mobile Device

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This is never an easy discussion.... but unfortunately it is often a necessary one... one that has to be started out of love for the other person. I went through this with my father who due to illness and age slowly lost his independence. When it came to his license the final decision by the doctor while not welcome was I think somewhat welcome... dad knew intuitively he should not be driving but wanted to delay the loss of this tangible sign of loss of independence as long as he could. In dad's case it was mom who asked the doctor and yes he was mad and upset when he list his licence... but not nearly as upset as he would have been if his driving had resulted in harm to mom.. his grandchildren or anyone else. it's never easy when we as children have to start caring for our parents....thus reversal of roles is however part of life and your dad will love you for the care you show him.

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Agree they should be re-tested every year. But what they do, at least in Ontario is a joke. It's every two years, and a written test only. But a written test doesn't test reflexes, awareness and so on. My mother passes the written test but should have her licence pulled. She's run reds, stop signs, illegal left turns, she doesn't focus on the road but looks at the "scenery" like buildings around her and then the car drifts into oncoming traffic. I absolutely won't be in the same vehicle when she drives and keep expecting a phone call, "your mother has been in an accident..." Her doctor should have her licence yanked RG

Yes, but either way by then it will be too late. C-36 will be the new law, and who knows how long it will be before it is struck down?

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I do the same thing. I've seen people's emails, they see the part where they are creating the account asking for first name and last name, and automatically put in a real name, not just initials or their fake name. They aren't receiving the emails, they have no idea what the recipient sees. Letting them know asap is the right thing to do.

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In today's world and economy there are many references to the fact that throughout ones lifetime we should all be prepared to have multiple careers as a response to changing circumstances around us.. Having had only one career in my life, along with multiple summer jobs as a kid, I have been looking around and with the recent new legislation that is in the works, I have decided that in January of 2015 I will become a sex worker! It is the perfect thing and our government is encouraging these things of us - show initiative, be adaptable to laws and changing times and they love small business creation. I wonder if I can access a government grant. Let's see. 1. I shall be a one person business, working solely for myself and can advertise and communicate to my hearts content. 2. As a sex worker, then by government definition I am obviously suffering from childhood abuse, and/or drug abuse, and/or am a victim of trafficking, and since I am a victim I will be immune from being responsible for my actions and therefore immune from arrest and prosecution. 3. As a measure of protecting my personal safety I shall only book appointments from other established sex workers that can provide references. 4. If this career move does not work out then there is a lovely pot of $20 million that I can access to get out! Sweet! The thing is that I am not very intelligent, as government completely understands when it comes to sex workers, so I shall only ask for a donation of $X for my time but am willing to pay $2X to book an appointment with another sex worker at the very same time! Talk about time efficiency for both of us! I will even be able to claim a business losses deduction on my income tax! My calendar is filling up quickly! PM to book an appointment.

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Congrat's Meaghan on the 2000 post count....

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Originally on the site, and in notices like this one: These were always the points of contention, plus for some it was the name of the organization. My point is that just because someone is 'survival' doesn't mean that they aren't consenting, or that the laws need to be different for them versus 'us'. If no one else had an issue with these specific points, we wouldn't already be on page 5, and we wouldn't have seen them brought up on at least 3 different sites so far. And that is the end of my most unwelcome contribution to this topic, as I have no more interest in having someone reply to me claiming i am talking about shutting down the whole concept of organized input from sex workers. Other than to say, where was everyone before C36 was introduced, when there were 'say no to the nordic model' polls that they could have distributed, campaigned for, and signed. Where were they in June, when the bill was presented, and the various advocacy groups were out there looking for support? Now they want to rally the troops in time for the Senate. This may be debated in Senate, and parliament, but the war is most likely to be one in the media, imo.

Jessica, A variety of perspectives in this industry is a wonderful thing. Your initiative to collect letters from both sps and clients is also a fantastic idea. However, I fear that its the name that people will remember, not the good work behind the initiative. In my opinion, all advocates in the industry, whether they represent small segments or an entire group, have only one responsibility: to progress the debate in a positive manner. Do you think that terminology such as "hooker" elevates the debate in respectful, public discourse? Anyway, good luck to you on your initiative. My offer still stands regarding assistance with writing should you so desire. I am only a private message away. All the best, Erica.

Hey everyone. My good friend Tuulia Law is conducting research for her PhD. The call for participants is copied below. If you're a dancer who's worked at least twice per week for at least a year, please please consider participating. Seeking Research Participants Are you a woman with experience working regularly as an exotic dancer (at least twice per week for at least one year) in strip clubs in Ottawa or/and Toronto, as of the year 2000? Are you interested in discussing your experience at work, and in particular with management (including managers, DJs, owners and others) in a study that will help people understand how the exotic dance industry works? Would you be able to take part in a 2-3 hour interview? Your anonymity is assured and a $100 honorarium is offered. The research will: Shed light on the work of people who organize, supervise, manage, or coordinate the work of erotic dancers, what they do, and their relationships with dancers. Explore the relationships between managers, dancers, and the other people involved in organizing, supervising, managing, or coordinating the work of dancers (for example bouncers, DJs, drivers, agents, etc). Examine myths surrounding the exotic dance industry and the sex industry. Identify how laws and policies influence your work. Research conducted by: Tuulia Law, University of Ottawa Research supervisor: Dr. Chris Bruckert, University of Ottawa To participate in an interview or for more information contact: [email protected]

Thank you all, After taking your advice I've just come back from Nico (from Kangnam Lady) and I've had to share the great experience with you. A lot of times you hear GFE thrown around, but this was beyond that, this was a King Experience.. Imagine how a king would be served and this is what you get. Nico is super sweet and caring, she has a 8-9 face, and an almost perfect body with natural big tits (if she lost 3-4 kg, she would be perfect in my eyes I think). This girl is not disgusted by anything, and will do things to you that 99.99% of girls would not do. Well it's mostly assplay and rimming, but still - she is amazing at it. A BBBJ and CIM (that I think she swallowed) finished me off. All in all an amazing experience that I've never had before and I've been around the world with many SP's... :bowdown:

I can recommend Niko, you will leave with an absolute smile on your face

Ah Dads. He started off as my hero. Bacame my worst enemy for years. Than as I matured he became my best friend. Never understood why he always seemed to ride my ass so hard until I became a father myself. He only wanted the best for me and to prepare me for the world. I would be lost without him. Even at thirty five he still is the best source of information in the world for me. Just hope I can be half the dad to my boys as he is to me.

I've heard from several sources, especially the successful ones, that they are experiencing a lot of No Shows and Trolls of late. Why is this happening and what can we respectable guys do about it? These MPs/SPs work very hard to market their skills and make preparations to meet clients. When someone just doesn't show up for their appointment, these girls loose valuable time and money as they could have scheduled someone else in if they had some kind of warning. Everyone knows that things can happen that require a cancellation but why on earth would you not let the girl know you can't make it. You'd call your Doctor, Dentist, and even your Mom so why not them. Even if you only had a 20 minute notice yourself. Some of these girls may have even turned down some other clients that could have replaced you at a moments notice. A quick call from her to one of them, could possibly save her that session time if the client is only a few minutes away. You are disrespecting our MPs/SPs and not giving them the level of attention that you will with other professionals. You cancel a cab at the last minute because you don't want him to show up at your door and you don't come out. Understandably, the cabby will be upset so how do you think your MP/SP will feel while she waits patiently for your arrival and you don't show up. I have never had a last minute cancellation for any photo shoots but if I ever get one, I'm pretty sure my client would give me a heads up as soon as they know they can't make it. Why are these hard working girls treated any differently. Some of the girls believe that most of these no shows are just trolls. Usually fake profiles set up to make appointments just so they don't show up. So why are these so popular with a successful MP/SP? I believe they are created by certain recruiting establishments that want this successful girl to go work for them. They feel if she looses enough money from no show clients, she'll move on. Hopefully she'll accept their earlier offer this time. Some believe these trolls are other competitors, perhaps even working in the same establishment. They're trying to make them want to get a different job because all their clients keep canceling and they make no money. They may just want to make them look unorganized and unsuccessful so the establishment boss will fire them. If anyone has any ideas how these MPs/Sps can avoid these no shows and trolls more effectively, please post it here. The regular communication options like PMs, text, and e-mail don't seem to be working. There should be some kind of fall back system so the girls can report these no shows and trolls so they can be instantly banned. Possibly even an IP collecting database so these Trolls can be tracked down later. I don't know. Just a thought I guess.

kinda shitty to say, but i believe it will have to go to a deposit situation if you want to almost guarantee an appointment. something like 30-50% of the fee upfront at time of booking then the rest in person. its sad that it may actually come to this. remember being about to leave the gas station without paying so you could go home and get your wallet? guess its a bit different but almost the same