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its out of control ... some anti c36er accused me of promoting child sex work after my recent interview for the NP. She actually tweeted that she had attended a workshop I did promoting youth sex work.... like wtf??? I immediately told her she must be mistaken, that I had never spoken in public. She did apologize and retract her statement but how many people saw it before that happened? Turns out she was falsely accusing another young lady who works with aboriginal youth. Pretty disgusting behaviour.

There is someone with a pro-C36 agenda. His/her method of attack has been to cherry pick the worst of whats said and display it as being representative of what happens in this industry. Recently, through some digging, she/he released the name of someone (a member of another forum) on twitter. This person has been getting cheered on by the other antis. Be especially careful now. I feel comfortable here posting more information about myself, but I have started being extremely selective on what I share. I know most are, but this just gives me the creeps.

You are not the only one who feels this way. You are not being picky or unreasonable because ultimately you have to do what is best for you. If it doesn't feel right then it means it's not for you. Always trust your instincts in this business. They never fail you. I feel the same way. Most here know of my dislike for BP. I've tried advertising there a few times and didn't like the clientele. Mostly low ballers, students who not want but expect a deal for 10 minutes. I have 20 year olds telling me my rates are too high and they can go get service for x amount as if they know everything.. Well why are they still talking to me? lol. I'm offering an experience, not a 5 minute bj that they seem to so desperately want. Then if I quote a rate for whatever length of time, they want to know the rate for a particular act. I'm an established SP. Granted, I'm not 20 years old but I believe that experience counts for something and some people appreciate that I take the time and effort for my clients. I'm sure there are some good SPs on BP but it's just not for me and I haven't had luck with it. The business has changed and while I have great regulars who appreciate spending quality time with me, I won't lie and say the thought of semi- retiring comes to mind. I don't like the direction the business has taken and I don't like being treated as though I'm someone who is a revolving door who just performs specific acts all day long. I see 1-2 clients a day since I have other things that pre-occupy my time. I have also moved over more into massage than escorting and it's something that I enjoy and that I'm good at. I am considering approaching that avenue in a professional manner. BP strikes me as one of those sites where some of the men (not all) who use the site as a get in and get out type transaction with minimal except for finishing to completion. Fast, quick and easy. What happened to the experience of being with an SP? It's just not there anymore and I'm not going to change how I conduct my business because people expect me to do 15 minute appts because other ladies are. That's their perogative and that's how they run their business. However, it doesn't mean that I have to just because someone else is doing it. The customer is not always right. For every 10 callers on BP, there was one decent client but in my experience that was also a long shot. I don't want to pay $12 USD EVERY SINGLE DAY to deal with some people who have no regard for me, that are rude, don't care for what I offer and only what is best for them. I've even had pimps try to contact me and other shady people trying to solicit their illegal business through the ladies on BP under the guise of being a client. I didn't sign up for that. There has to be a mutual respect and I certainly wasn't getting that vibe. I'd rather get a root canal 10 times over than deal with that. I can't tell you how many times I advertised on BP and wanted to rip my hair out that day. I have met many great clients on Cerb and there is more of an appreciation towards the service provider. And it's sad because most of what has been negatively said about sex workers regarding the new proposed legislation is in relation to sites like BP where it doesn't take much for someone to take a few pictures, with a cell phone number and call themselves a service provider. They don't take into consideration the community that is here and not some site where names and faces change on a regular basis.

Disclaimer: I realize that the majority of you are paying for a sexual service and that your needs should be met within the boundaries of the escort in question. That is the service I am providing. However, that being said, I would like to call attention to what I like to refer to as "jack-hammering." This is basically extended penetrative sex and nothing else. You may be convinced that good sex requires only penetration and stamina--as well all know, women want a man who can last (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there), or perhaps it is purely selfish on your part, you do want to get your money's worth after all. So you pound your paid sex partner, over and over, squeezing in every possible available second. In which case, I am not a blow-up doll. I am not an object solely for your use. Keep in mind, I do not think it is a problem, for example, if you would like to simply pay to receive a blowjob, provided you realize the skill and time involved in administering a good blowjob. And I do not think penetrative sex itself is bad. But if you are interested in engaging in a full range of sexual behaviour, please realize that "sex" does not simply equal penetration for as long as humanly possible. After awhile it is painful, un-stimulating and rather boring. If a woman is not turned on, she doesn't create those delicious lubricating fluids that can make penetrative sex so wonderful. So take the time to pay attention to things like kissing and groping and licking and nibbling and so on. If the first thing you're going for is penetration, you have skipped so many amazing, naughty fun things to do to one another. While we are providing a very intimate service, aimed at generating your pleasure and satisfaction, we have emotions, and physical limits. So keep that in mind the next time you're with your favourite lady. Happy pooning!

I'm not a ridiculously experienced hobbyist but man when you find a really good SP that is professional, courteous and just a great time it really makes it an awesome experience

Well although single, I'll offer a quick comment. Take it for what it's worth. When one enters into a relationship be it bf/gf or CL or marriage, something serious, not casual, something that implies exclusivity and monogamy, there is, or should be an understanding by both the man and woman that part of that relationship includes sexual intimacy. I for one believe that all women, including those in a marriage, are free to decline to have sex. But those women who have the right to choose celibacy for themselves IMHO are not free to impose celibacy on their husband. Put another way, the term cheating is bandied about for those who see other women. But really, how can seeing another woman for sex be cheating when sex is denied at home. What exactly is the man cheating on? If he received sex at home with the woman he completely (sex included) committed to, he wouldn't seek it elsewhere. And a sexless marriage where the woman is denying sex, she also isn't completely committed to the marriage Show me a marriage without sex and I'll show you a marriage where someone is seeking it elsewhere A rambling RG

I am so happy beautiful Berlin is discussing this issue! I wish some of you knew this: The female body it is made for multiple orgasmic experiences thus if you care to make us come and have an eletric session with you. All you have to do is ask us: How do you prefer? Where and how can i pleasure your body, breasts, thights? How can i perform date on you, to arouse you? We are in the age of the Godess, thus most sexually confident female knows what she likes and dislikes in bed. Some of you even get mad at me when i try to give you tips on my sexual likes and dislikes. And some of you are all about been generous and sensual according to my personal sexual preferences in order to make the best of our encounter and the result it is hot sex mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Some guy even told me it is "natural to penetrate a lady hard". I would say the word natural it is a dangerous word to use in sexuality and aesthetics. It is natural to allow gas to flow freely, should i fart on your face during sex because it is natural? No right? I prefer gentle and slow sex, but once i am more warm up i will ask for more action. I think desire and lust should lead in bed, not the strength of your male hips. I would prefer that you touch my arms, my legs and my back and my waist and my back before you touch any sexual part of my body, and please be gentle and please warm up your hands before touching us. The beauty is: Some of you already aim to please, but you are rare and you know who you are;). When you penetrate us hard without any care to increase our pleasure we just want to make you come asap, because it hurts.

I've been meaning to write this and get it out for a while but never had the courage to do it before now. We all have our reasons behind our hobbying. Some are lonely, others are in a stale relationships, other like the variety of meeting new people. I was in a hedonistic/open relationship before meeting my wife. My ex and I had a mutual agreement that we could venture outside of our couple, and that worked well for 7-8 years until eventually my ex fell in love with someone else. So, at that fateful day in Spring 2000, we parted our own separate ways. A year later, I met a wonderful woman. We got married, had kids. She is my best friend and we share lots of things in common, but sex isn't really one of them. While she has always had a rather low sex drive, I am the total opposite! For year, I have tried to make her try new things, but to no avail. Knowing how "traditional" she is, I have simply given up on that and based on my past relationship, I seek the company of lovely SPs from time to time without feeling remorse when I get back home. I love women of all shapes and nationalities and cannot imagine having sex with the same person the rest of my life. I have too many fantasies I want to live, I love black women, I love BBW, I love latinas, I love tall, blonde, spinner types, I love punk/goth/tattoed chick with piercings and coloured hair. Heck, I'd even be inclined to meet a nice trans SP one day. But dammit, I want to go out there and meet beautiful ladies, get to know them and spend an intimate moment with them. Yet, I love my wife and kids and cherish what we've built as a family and cannot even think of one day leaving my wife. Since I have no one to talk about this, I sometimes feel like the "lonely married man", as I have no one to talk about it than myself. So, kindred CERB members, do this make me hypocritical? Am I living a lie or can I truly have my cake and eat it too?

Is it just me or have other ladies notice the difference between BP and EC / cerb/perb? As a few gentlemen that I have opened up to a little as well as a few SP's know about some big life changes I have been making and the circumstances regarding that. Hence I rarely partake in this endeavor , but when I do i usually just find it easy to poat a quick ad on BP. Most of the time it turns out to be a huge mistake and i usually get un desirable people that i would like to avoid. Basically it is not a good idea for me to post on there. I have however found a few great guys on there, but they are also guys that are from the boards. Im feeling like i should just go back to posting on here ans leave BP alone. I dont know ? Am i just being to picky or un reasonable? Additional Comments: Also I apologize for the horrible spelling. Its my phone.

Again, I am commenting a little off topic but since this point is being discussed... Ryan, I think it is important not to generalize here; not all SPs offer (unprotected) Daty because of the "market demand". Some of us actually enjoy it and enjoy it a LOT. The same can be said about other sexual activities...

I've been lurking for a little while on cerb since my first encounter back in November of last year and appreciate all the great info and reviews that everyone on here contributes, figured I would give something back to the community :) I made the arrangement to go and see Tiffany Sunday early afternoon after seeing her ad on EC and reading the great review Pedro gave and was glad I did. Setting up the appointment was quick and easy through text and I was all booked within minutes. I arrived at her condo downtown and was blown away when she opened the door. I was greeted by a smoking hot tanned little blonde wearing pearls a bikini and heels just like I requested... I knew I was going to be in for some fun. After the initial kisses and hellos I took my shoes off and made my way in. The entire place was spotless and had a nice relaxed vibe to it with light music playing and candles lit everywhere. I made my way to the bathroom.. again spotless and had everything laid out neatly. We sat on the couches for a bit each enjoying some wine and conversation/teasing.. I'm usually a bit nervous and don't have much to say but this girl was fun and easy to talk to, really laid back and intelligent had me laughing quite a bit :P We made our way to the bedroom where the real fun began... this girl had everything I like... nice perky titties, sexy face, toned body and an ass I couldn't stop grabbing lol. bbbj was the best I've had yet but after seeing that tight little kitty I knew what I wanted more.. the view from behind was amazing and cowgirl was something straight out of a rodeo. This girl loves getting vocal and has quite the dirty little mouth on her which turned me on even more haha. After all the fun I grabbed a shower and shared another glass of wine before departing.... very satisfied :P would repeat and will.

People who use bad grammar and spelling all the time drive me insane.... That and mini vans....

I have the luck of working at VIP and I get to eat delicious pho at least once a week si vd we are on top of a pho restaurant hehe... their soup is really good... favourite #20 with BBQ pork.. yummi i am feeling hungry now lol

I GET TO MEET YOU! Yay!

I guess this qualifies as a skirt:

When the money is given to the Provider it becomes Her money. When it is taken back after the fact it is considered stealing. Humiliated and robbed. Wow.

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The ad posting as just what you need (spelled with really silly letters) with the phone number 587-3-2-3-1573 is asking for a 25 dollar cam show before meeting, I am sure that will end well.

Upon arriving in Fredericton, I realized I had forgotten my dressy shoes, so I didn't sweat it too much because my appointments thus far have been in-calls. So for my first out-call appointment, I wore my fishnets and dressy flip flops and guess what - he didn't notice. Is it just me or do most gents not really notice everything we are wearing? I was going to go buy some new shoes tomorrow, but now I'm thinking, I'll just stick to what has worked so far. What do you think?

whenever I meet a gentlemen "gem" from bp, I make a point of telling them about the boards and ec. So many don't know that recommendation boards exist!

In my opinion, if this is a concern: 1. Ask "is it safe?" (This can actually sound a little playful) 2. Don't do it (DATY that is) For those like me who enjoy it (tremendously), this is not a major issue. If you happen to get the timing wrong, there is usually very little chance of getting a surprise (so to speak) if she is laying on her back. You will likely see it on your fingers (if that's part of it) and you just switch places!! Everyone gets a turn in my world!! ;) All this of course...my humble opinion.

Reread the second paragraph of my post closely. I qualify every statement I make. I'm not saying women don't enjoy daty, I'm saying that it isn't a required service in our work unless the gent indicates an interest. I also didn't say that providers don't enjoy daty in an appointment ever, I simply gave some general parameters to having that happen organically. Talk about twisting words... What amazes me with this industry is willingness of the participants; both provider and client to tow the balloons and streamers party line at all costs, engage in behaviour then vent publicly or semi-privately when it goes wrong. In this business there are some great aspects, some less than great and some aspects that are truly gross. Sex is messy tho it can be fun if the parties are willing to be adults. I'm not advocating providers not disclose, I'm trying to bring a dose of reality to the discussion that honestly indicates the transient and unregulated nature of this industry and the potential impact that has on the participants health and safety. I think if someone is unwilling to take precautions then they don't have the right to complain. If the OP had used a dental dam, the risk would have been negligible and we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Instead, he chose to engage in an unsafe service. The new to the industry provider was obviously in a difficult position given she was seeing her first client in spite of her monthly and when the mishap occurred, the OP took her fee back then her agency didn't have the decency to back her up. To me, the prevailing attitudes and the entire situation is a travesty... cat

Thanks Gabriella...I did not quote originally, but I was referring to Cat's post: Daty is performed for the client, not the provider Which I believe is where the generalization began. I am relieved to hear that some providers may actually enjoy this activity.

Thanks for ruining daty for me... :). I am joking of course (partly), but I did not realize that most SP's have no interest in that activity whatsoever and do it mostly due to market demand, thanks for enlightening me. I do understand that you are interested in promoting the use of dental dams as I seem to remember other threads where that drum had been banged before. As for having cake and eating it too...you are obviously entitled to your perspective, but I see it a bit differently. If risk is changed from the baseline (which you admitted that a menstrual cycle does) a provider has a choice to accept the risk and hope nothing goes wrong or disclose the situation to their clients (or of course not work on those days). I would of course prefer the latter and you seem to prefer the former. I see the latter as open and honest communcation, whereas you seem to prefer a "datyer beware" approach. As I said earlier in this thread...this has been useful and educational.

I love love love it!!! Funny we both started a food thread almost same time hahaha, Yes I would suggest if in Fredericton NB, to get Pho at a placed called Saigon Noodles! Fresh, yummy and well Pho!

I worked in "china town" or little Vietnam for 15 years. My favorite place was a on Booth St in the basement of a building. Looked sketchy but the kitchen was the cleanest in the area. I would clean out all their hood fans. It was New Me Fung. Loved the shedder pork with vermicelli. The spring rolls were fantastic as well

I won't comment on all of your reply since we appear to agree to disagree on most points, which is totally fine of course. But I think my point on secrecy is black and white, if a provider does not disclose her cycle and engages in vaginal activities...she is keeping it a secret, not sure how you can argue that. I agree with your preaching on the use of dental dams, but as I have been told on numerous occasions that I "most likely have had a session with an SP during her cycle", it has never been suggested "you should use a dental dam, I am having my cycle". Agree that each party needs to manage their own risks and be responsible for their own health, which we all know can only be guaranteed by not participating in this industry. Informed clients and providers perform research and weigh the risks, they do that with the knowledge available, keeping some information from them skews the risk assessment process and yes...I see it as secretive, I think most would.

No one can be responsible for anyone else's sexual health but their own... cat

I refuse to use BP as I have had several unfavourable experiences, the only time I will use it is if there is a very well reviewed lady on there but I am sure it's 100 times worse for you ladies.

It's a good thing he reached the 5 post mark to do so. Go on nik11 share the story or give her a nice recommendation. Make sure to pass it by her before posting it!

It's tough when you have found your soul mate and there is only one little thing that does not work well. I have the same thing going on in my life and I share your feeling SolidSnake. I could never see the day that I would leave my wife, she completes me. I fell in love with her many years ago, I had no control over that. I'm hoping that in time she will want to have more sex. I was told that a woman after a certain age will get horny and she will need it more often, that is my question. True or false?

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Especially when it's PEI

Sitting on the aisle on an airplane and getting bump every 2 min without any apologies...grrrrrrrrr my blood pressure was hitting the roof! There is absolutely no good seat in a plane...window seat you are stuck and you often freeze...middle...oh no not in between...and aisle...well you know... Which one do you prefer?

If someone is unhappy about something they bought at a store they sure don't grab money out of the till to compensate. Additional Comments: Too many guys think every encounter has to be perfect. But we all wear seatbelts, we all have house insurance, we accept things can go wrong in everyday life. Intimacy is no different, hey it wasn't perfect that time but you just carry on.

Sent you a PM, Mr.T - need to know where I'm sending cash to. Lemme know!

Roasted rosemary potatoes and bacon, cheddar sausage.

I'm super excited! My first Ottawa social. I've heard many great things about them ;)

I had so much fun last night! Thanks for coming to say hi, it really made the night feel special. No idea when I'll be back but you guys certainly reminded me why I dancing is my first love. Xx

Well there has been alot of criticism, judgement and jumping to conclusions here. Admittedly i have been part of the problem. As disturbing as most of this thread is, part of me is glad its here as i had no idea providers would continue to work, let alone offer vaginal services while menstruating. Its been enlightening to me to learn of the integrity (and lack there of it) of some providers. I contacted a public health nurse and asked about sexual activity during menstruation. I was told this increases risk for BOTH partners. BOTH! Not only because of the chance of the presence of blood but the increase in bodily fluids. IMO the risks are high enough already in this business without needlessly increasing them. Someone asked what should the protocol be. From a clients prospective i would not be comfortable with any vaginal services at this time. I would however be fine with companionship, erotic massage ect. My suggestion would be 1 - Dont work. Take some days off. Have fun, enjoy yourself, have a "me" day. Whatever you want to call it. 2 - Be upfront when someone calls to book an appointment. Maybe they are willing to take on the extra risk, or comfortable with a less intimate encounter, or reschedule. 3 - If for some reason you don't think you can do either of those, please restrict your menu. As far as the question "what would you do". Thats hard to say for sure and i hope i never find out. Unlike the OP ive had some time to think about this. If i was thrown into a similar situation where i was meeting a sp for the first time, new nothing about her, she let me go down on her, with no heads up on what lies ahead and i found my mouth touching a bloody sponge, i would probably wash myself throughly, leave and never come back. I would have to wonder if she is trying to hide this, what else isn't she telling me? For all i know she might have just been diagnosed with HIV, mad at the world and out for revenge. If it was someone i knew and trusted or if she started her period as we were together thats a totally different scenario. As far as the donation is concerned i wont even go there as i would never be so inconsiderate as to put a price on someones heath and well being. The bottom line is use some common sense. I would never knowingly sacrifice the heath and safety of another human being and would expect the same in return. I don't think thats to much to ask. JMHO

So I'm going to suggest this again because I like to bug you mr.t Can you please please please make naniomo bars please!! I've been crazing them all year *insert puppy dog eyes and quivering lower lip*

There have been a few. Angelina and Holly, Jazlyn and Kelly, and at least one other set at Nevada and bw . Angelina and Jazlyn were to of my all time favourites. Who have I missed.

. "The Lancet is a weekly peer-reviewed general medical journal. It is one of the world's oldest and best known general medical journals,[1] and has been described as one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world..." http://www.thelancet.com/series/HIV-and-sex-workers Executive summary: With heightened risks of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections, sex workers face substantial barriers in accessing prevention, treatment, and care services, largely because of stigma, discrimination, and criminalisation in the societies in which they live. These social, legal, and economic injustices contribute to their high risk of acquiring HIV. Often driven underground by fear, sex workers encounter or face the direct risk of violence and abuse daily. Sex workers remain underserved by the global HIV response. This Series of seven papers aims to investigate the complex issues faced by sex workers worldwide, and calls for the decriminilisation of sex work, in the global effort to tackle the HIV/AIDS epidemic. HIV and sex workers Published July 22, 2014 Bringing sex workers to the centre of the HIV response Pamela Das, Richard Horton Full Text | PDF Dispelling myths about sex workers and HIV Steffanie A Strathdee and others Full Text | PDF Trafficking, sex work, and HIV: efforts to resolve conflicts Richard Steen, Smarajit Jana, Sushena Reza-Paul, Marlise Richter Full Text | PDF Responses to HIV in sexually exploited children or adolescents who sell sex Craig McClure, Caitlin Chandler, Susan Bissell Full Text | PDF Why are sex workers who use substances at risk for HIV? Maia Rusakova, Aliya Rakhmetova, Steffanie A Strathdee Full Text | PDF Register for free to view the full articles, it takes 2 seconds!

Saw her last night and she was great and really cool