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My grand mother aka Mami is on last days of leaving..2or3days max He reason I posted in here is she was one if the few that Tap me on the shoulder and said " good for you" she accept what I do regardless of her generation which is now 90years old.. I'm upset but I think at the point she is she must go She saw her mom on some in time she wasn't" there" and was told it will be okay I know it's the best for my Gand Ma aka Mami but I have an hard time to wrap my head around it

Bill C-36 is many things. It is an imposition by government of their morality agenda. It criminalizes sexual behavior between consenting adults. As we pause to celebrate Labor Day, we see that what Bill C-36 really is however is the antithesis of what we are choosing to celebrate on Monday. Many sex workers choose this work. It is real work and as with any other paid employee they deserve legal protection under the law. They should have the right to work in a safe work environment. They should have the right to personal safety. They should have the right to work together. They should have the right to advertise freely and openly. Despite the ruling of the Supreme Court of Canada whose unanimous decision was based on providing for the safety of sex workers, all of these rights are being withheld and removed by this government. This segment of Canada's work force is being consciously and with forethought and I argue even with malice, sacrificed at the whim of a minority group who have put their moral agenda ahead of the lives of women. On this Labor Day when you hear Members of Parliament applaud our Canadian landscape, recognize that not all Canadians have cause to celebrate this day.

My reason to refer to the negotiating thread is because first, there is going to be overlap between bartering and negotiating, and some points in that thread would be appropriate to consider in bartering. And second, Summer posted (copied/pasted) I believe this discussion was brought up before and mod would not approve it Which was in reference to negotiating. I stated that the lady determines her rate, and it is up to her to determine if bartering is an acceptable form of payment. If a client/prospective client brings it up, then it starts reeking, IMHO of negotiating. I didn't say no to bartering, just it should be up to the lady to suggest it as an option, and there are risks to a mutually beneficial arrangement of barter (an encounter versus reciprocal services) Just my opinion RG

Dear Cerb members, I am visiting Halifax this week and wanted to address a concern I have with another provider that has been spreading negative rumors about me and attacking my character wherever she goes, to almost every gentleman she meets. Even though to me, this is completely not the attitude a GFE provider should have, as she should be focused on the satisfaction of her client and on providing the best experience he could dream of, I feel this becomes a problem to me when visiting a city like Halifax where I haven't been often. I do not want to name her or bad mouth her in any ways, this is not my intention here. I do know her, and we do have a history together, but I hold no grudge against her. All I would like to ask for is your advice on this situation, and also clear my name, as these allegations are absolutely not true and uncalled for. thank you in advance Lola xox

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*are you available now? NOW is never good *asking my fees after you have book *laziness I have a menu on my website..Visit my website stop asking me to just tell you *the ones that want to know which hotels I'm staying without an app because they need to be discrete If I tell anyone it won't be private and discrete anymore *the ones that inquire for an app but avoid to answer my simple questions such as your name and cell *the one that text me every single visit and each time tell me they don't have access to computer to check my website ..I mean every single time *the ones that feel THAT comfortable to go to the bathroom doing number2 with the door open and strike me a conversation *a tornado in my bathroom There a thing call curtain please close it and refrain from using 3towels for 1h app * bitting my nipples after I told you I'm not into pain I think that is all :)

......agree completely.. which is why a bartering site like ITEX would be perfect for these arrangements. I'm absolutely sold on the idea, just waiting for the new year to institute it. If I'm able to shop for products that I pay for anyways it's a sweet deal. When you're actually dealing with an individual it's a whole other kettle of fish... .....or mussels..........or lobster.... sorry distracted ............

So far I have been getting a "Special" on my birthdays....it's a DUO with my favourite and her Duo partner....nice...my birthday is in 3 months..cant wait! I dont know about the rate...(dont care), but wine, party hats, cake, bumps and kisses are all part of a very frisky time...Couldn't really ask for more.

You are correct and I apologize to the OP for responding in such a passionate way. I guess I never understood the gentlemen who shop for specials before looking for a lady that truly pique their interest first, especially on such a special occasion. Why not treat yourself to an experience with someone you truly desire (within your budget) instead of trying to save a few bucks here and there? It doesn't make any sense to me considering the highly intimate circumstances. And, I still stand by what I said in my previous post ;) with as much passion ;) OP, I hope you had a fantastic birthday! Gabby xox

Hey ladies what is a major turn off when someone is looking to book a time with you ? One thing I absolutely hate is when someone texts me and says....What's up? Like really lol that will not grab my attention First impressions mean everything and I prefer a gentlemen being respectful and courteous when inquiring about my ......... For an example; Hello how are you or Hi I am .... and I am interested in knowing more about you and your ........!......so much better

Hi Cerbie Some new girls have asked me my opinion on what kind of ad's get my attention and keep my attention. For me, it is a catchy title. The start of a riddle. The first part of a teasing sentence that makes need to click the ad to see the rest of the ad, or the answer to the joke or riddle :) But once in the ad, the use of colour fonts can be eye catching, but beware some colours such as yellow and lime green are hard on the eyes to read. Once the Ad is opened, sexy beautiful pictures will gain my attention, if I like the pictures, I will then read the ad, How the ad is written will depends on whether I will read more. Some Ad's are well written, with quotes and thoughts, other's are funny. The short simple one sentence ad's won't keep my attention. The ad should contain a good detailed information on the woman, as her height, weight, age and measurements. and the rates and contact info. I know some of websites, but a lot of us use smart phones, and don't like having click to see more pages on the little screen. What catches your attention in an Ad?

Where do I start. I saw Bambi for a half hour last week and a 1 hour appointment this week. She is far more beautiful then her pictures and her body is amazing, and she is very proud to show it, wearing high heels while wearing tight booty shorts and slightly bending shows you a very fit and firm figure. She made me feel very relaxed despite being a little nervous at the fact that I hadnt actually been intimate with a girl this good looking ever. Completely non rushed and absolutely awesome. Definitely recommend, you will not regret even a Half hour with her.

I have done some bartering with two clients that are/were long term. One it turn up to be horrible. The other one is still a good regular of mine, he once paid for a trip for me (solo) and I gave him x amount of sessions. Someone paid for a session for my tattoo one and got x amount of time But it's not something I would consider on a regular base and with new people.

I have never been to the establishment in question (just making that clear, i.e., I'm neither Eric nor anyone working for him). It seems to me that if you pay for a membership knowing it involves regular fees, you are paying for it regardless of the use you make of it (like any other club or a union for that matter). If you did not let them know you were travelling (for how long?) or that you later became ill, how should they know this and why should they give you a pass on your fees after the fact? Same as when you hire someone to shovel your walk, you don't refuse payment just because it did not snow last month. The person you hired was on call for a whole month and expects to get paid. If you refuse to pay what you owe, you reap what you sow. If you think about it from their point of view you'll see it's so.

Going out for a long bike ride in a few minutes. This has been an epic summer, got a lot to reflect on. Have a great day everyone!

Definitely a grower...significant difference in size when aroused, thankfully! Additional Comments: To tell you the truth I assumed everyone would be a grower....but apparently that's not necessarily the case. Live and learn I guess. Lol.

Neither! Hahaha. Posted via Mobile Device

Hello Gentlemen, My name is Sasha, I'm a young fit and playful MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic massage will relieve your tension & leave you more than satisfied. I'm very fun, open minded and comfortable to be around so let's make this experience as enjoyable and naughty as your fantasies.. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, nice round booty, brunette, golden tan, seductive lips, exotic hazel eyes, 100% natural beauty.. Services: Non-rushed service Full erotic body massage Reverse massage Slippery body slides reverse body slides Shower for 2 Hot tub fun Relaxing MUSIC Fresh towels & linens Duos Some fetishes ATM available on site Schedule: Sunday @ Paradise: 10am-9pm Monday @ Angels: 9am-11pm Tuesday @ Paradise: 9am-11pm Wednesday @ Angels: 3:30pm-11pm Friday @ Paradise: 4pm-11pm Saturday @ Paradise: 9am-11pm http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=146238 Join me for some hot steamy fun an experience to never forget, come have the very best!! call: (Angels): 613-274-7073 or (Paradise): 613-820-8887 Incall location only! -Sasha xxx

Yes I did not word that properly at all! :whipping:

In this instance, MsSarah, "outing" refers to an SPs working identity being linked with her personal one, and her being "outed" as a sex worker in her personal life.

I think if two consenting adults come up with an agreement, then no one else needs to concern themselves with it. The same sort of logic for cash would apply here obviously - an SP/MA can set their requirement, and it would be up to the client to decide if he/she wants to engage in that agreement.

I don't offer birthday specials but once I have established regulars and they tell me it's their birthday, I will do something nice for them within our session. I think this is only appropriate if you know the person. How is an SP going to know it's someone's birthday? Are they going to show her their driver's license? I'm thinking probably not. Many people ask for discounts.. I'm a student.. okay, good for you but I charge equally to all my clients. A lot of entitlement these days imo. I hate to poo poo this idea and ruin the fantasy but this is our job and how we make our living. I've noticed lately that a lot of guys calling are expecting way less for than what we offer. We also have bills to pay. Would clients go to work for less than they want to be paid for? I highly doubt it. If I gave everyone a discount for whatever reason, I wouldn't be able to pay my bills.

The OP is asking if a provider has birthday specials. He's not asking for a freebie. He has only 4 posts to his credit, so some allowance could be considered for the "newbie" factor. The beauty of this industry, is that each provider can choose to run his / her business exactly as it best suits him / her. Be it rates, screening requirements, services provided...or anything else. Consider for a moment, that the OP has perused the ads from our wonderful ladies, and is simply looking to save himself some time...because after all: We have ladies with long weekend specials http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191654&highlight=special We have ladies with special allowances for later bookings or overnight rendezvous http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191648&highlight=special We have ladies with specials of the day http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191639&highlight=special We have early bird specials, and specials for bringing wine http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191629&highlight=special We have month end specials http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191629&highlight=special We have specials to help pay for taxes http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191446&highlight=special We have pre-booking specials http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=191045&highlight=special We have specials for "$50 reduction for a rendez-vous confirmed before " deadline http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=190144 Clearly, specials are a common thing. So my question is this...why is it ok for providers to have specials, but frowned upon when men inquire about specials? IMO, the OP is not looking to negotiate a ladies rates, he is inquiring if a provider has a birthday special...nothing more. Either a lady has one, or she doesn't. I don't see why it needs to be more complicated than that. After all, cut him some slack...it's his birthday ;)

Is it considered outing to refer to people's different handles on various forums? Example - if a SP is 'Jane' on cerb and 'funnylady' on t*rb.

I think the OP's original request/suggestion is not to 'wait til tomorrow' but to simply move on.

I'm with you guys on the title reeling me in to look further. Then my biggest thing is the wording the lady uses. I absolutely love a well thought out bit of prose or poetry that shows an intelligent witty sophisticated person behind the beautiful picture. The alternative to that is one that is very cleverly humorous and makes you think this girl can make you laugh all day. The pictures are important only to the point of helping with the visual. We are, after all, visual creatures but a lady could have the most stunning, sexy pics in the world and if her wording was too generic or came across as a vapid 80's "valley girl", I would have no interest.

Whatever your field is, I would be curious to know how many times other professionals have been asked this very question. Dear gas attendant, it is my birthday today, can you charge me less per liter or in total? Dear mechanic, it is my birthday today, can I get a discount on your time and/or car parts? Dear dentist, it is my birthday today... Dear cashier at the grocery store... Dear psychologist... Dear landscaper... Dear babysitter... ... ... ... Would you ask those people for a discount for your birthday? Why not? So why does it always seem acceptable to ask this famous question to SPs aka sex workers? Because restaurants give you a cake with a candle on it for your birthday? The best way to "have your cake and eat it too" is to go to a restaurant and then go see an SP! Additional Comments: I almost forgot... Happy Birthday to the OP!

No! Titcoin!

I don't think the intention of this thread and that are the same. Sure some negotiation would be involved with a barter system, but not in the way the other question was asked. That had to do with haggling down prices, which is down right insulting in my book. That implies a hobbiest looked at a posted rate and asking for a lesser price. Bartering simply implies alternative means of compensation than money that is agreed upon by both parties. So what if an sp posted in an ad saying: my rate is x $, however "if you're a mechanic, I'm having trouble getting my engine revving", or "if you know about roofing, I'm getting wet in all the wrong places", would there be an issue with that? Obviously it would have to be agreed upon by both. Showing up with a vase that you figure is worth a certain amount would not be cool if she is expecting cash. But otherwise, why not? Modern currency is merely a means to standardize transactions and ultimately, make them fairly taxable. I don't see an issue if it is good for both and agreed upon. It may however open doors for the other type of haggling mentioned above. Edit: sorry, meant to quote rg's original post. Stupid smart phones. ;)

Incidentally, part of my premise was that the SP was interested in doing this in the first place (which Layah seemed to be saying). As you and RG touch upon, no client should be introducing barter as a negotiating tactic. (Or negotiating at all.) "Hey, I got this '79 Ford Pinto..." "I'm really ace with a Bedazzler; I could add studs and rhinestones to change your wardrobe from dull to daring!" Ew. Stay classy, my friends! ;)

I would just add to MightyPen's comment that since it is the lady who determines what her rate is, it is up to her to offer bartering as an option for paying the donation. It isn't up to a client/prospective client to offer to pay via bartering, it reeks of negotiating. And most ladies have it in their websites no negotiating. It would be tricky to, pardon the pun, negotiate a bartering arrangement where both parties have a mutually benefited. The simplest thing is to pay the lady's rate. If the lady needs a certain service she has the money from paid encounters to pay for the service. My barter arrangement then would be I'll provide you with X amount of dollars for Y amount of your time LOL A rambling RG

I think it's one of those ideas that is good and fine in theory (MightyPen as usual summed it up well) but I would say likely to be bad in actual practice. I think the can of worms it would open is that it would encourage too many guys to start offering services in return instead of the requested donation amount. It's all too easy to picture a fellow telling one lady how "the other lady agreed if I washed her dishes and walked her dog I'd get 30 minutes!" Or "you let my friend have time with you for court-side tickets, why can't I??" It's my opinion that it's a lady's right to decide what her time is worth--be that a $ amount or some other good or service. And if the only time such an exchange happened was a when a lady specifically advertised for such, then it may not be too bad. But as I say, doing so comes with the risk that it will increase how often guys try such negotiations when it's not appropriate or wanted.

What interest me to read is what the title says, example: "Look at my new pictures", "You should see my sexy bum", "Swallow", "I need you cum", "I want you in me", etc... I will tend to look at an ad if the lady is from my area, but I will also read it if I like reading her replies to any post on Cerb. Keep writing sexy titles and I will keep reading them.

Very bad for me, being rough. I think because I am very fit and toned men assume I am some sort of toy. When I tell you to stop squeezing by breasts so hard and you don't stop not only is this a turn off but guaranteed you will not get to visit again. Lack of respect in any way is my biggest turn off and its very sad when people don't respect people . It's important to recognize this in the CERB world and the civilian one.

Very catchy original unique ad titles...they draw the reader to the ad They set the tone for the rest of the ad and tell the reader who is the lady writing Some are so unique the title is almost synonymous with the lady's name...you can just see the ad title and know without looking any further who wrote it A lady's writings should reflect who she is And when the lady includes a photo from her album in her ad post that just adds (pardon the pun) to the ad A rambling RG

I will honestly say wow! She is amazing. Friendly, hot, sweet, very very naughty and adventurous, well worth whatever she asks for in return. Blows away every experience I have ever had. Not the tastiest girl which bothered me at first but she made up for it big time in a big way. Definitely plan to see her. There are only two other locals I would put in the same class. Good luck.

she used to go by name Kelly and was hosting in town and in odessa. i had talked to her a few times and had booked her but each time i would txt before heading over she would never answer and kept saying she fell asleep. i believed her but the third time was enough lol.

Come and experience what you've been longing for. Im back from another amazing vacation and I'm missing sharing my intimate time with you... There are many things that make me different from the rest You will always be greeted with a warm hug and a smile because I'm always happy to have your company. I take my time and you will never be rushed, I always leave myself lots of time to regenerate my energy so I am able to give you the best experience you deserve. Never be left feeling like youre next in line. I take pride in my clean,upscale environment so you will always feel confident in partaking in a relaxing, sensual journey and never worry about interruptions. I don't hide anything in my pictures, they are real, no photoshop and no surprises on our first meeting. See how wonderfully beauty and brains can collide. I'm never late for our time, I believe that your time is just as valuable as mine and if I can't make it, be sure I'll let you know well ahead of time. When you're in my company I am focused on you 110%, come get into my zone and feel ultimately spoiled I am offering sensual massage for gentlemen and couples Incall and outcall available Duos also available please pm for details My hours vary Monday, Wednesday, Friday 1-9 Tuesday, Thursday by appointment

Recently I have been thinking about how the amazing Ladies of CERB go about screening prospective clients. I have been around long enough now to know and respect that the SP's take screening seriously and have all developed their approach to screening that meets their individual needs. Many SP's require certain information, or references, or that initial contacts be made thought email or by phone. But when I stop and think about it these wonderful ladies really don't have much info on which to base a decision that affects their personal safety. Obviously guys lie about their name and other personal information... cell phones are a dime a dozen and references can't be a deal breaker all the time because all of us had to start with none at some point. For the last few weeks I will admit it i have trolled the various SP ad sections and then looked at some of the SP profile visitors post history. While I did not see anything strange or surprising in fact I saw a lot of posts very similar to my own post history I was struck by the fact that many of these posts (mine included) did not, for me anyway, scream wow I can't wait to meet this person. I kinda think if I was going to invite this person into my life I might need more. Lololol Anyway.... I think this might just be my long way of saying Thank You to all you wonderful ladies who make the choice to invite us into your life. I guess the fact that you do that based on very little information says something about your faith and trust in others and your ability to assess the essence of our character. For me personally I have benefited greatly because you have. THANK YOU

The way I screen is almost entirely on my intuition but I do not accept blocked calls. I screen clients and they don't even know I'm doing it. It's called my sixth sense and it's very well honed. I pick on so many different things when I speak to someone for a few minutes. They could be so polite to me but my radar is always on alert. I may pick up on something they say and it will bring up a red flag. I've very good at reading people and this is the way I screen. I am established and reputable enough and I think if this bill becomes law, many men will be looking for established ladies and not risk the fly by nights or unknown ones you see on other sites. Other hobbyists will wait it out to see what the outcome will be in terms of how law enforcement will handle these new laws. Do you really think LE has the budget to set up clients regularily? I'm sure there will a few men who will be made examples of by LE intially but I'm sure most hobbyists will set out and do their research first instead of calling any unknown Jane Smith from BP for example. That is a site where you will see a big change especially with explicit advertising. My advice to hobbyists is to get a secret hobby phone and not in your real name. Chatr wireless does not require you to give your real name or provide identification. Say it's a gift for someone and tell them you want to put it in their name with a fake address. This is probably the best way to do it. I do not book from blocked calls or payphones and always to check to see if someone is trying to hide their number. I'm aware of all of that. If a client wants to play secret agent, forget it. It's a two way street and it's a give and take. I will not be going to hotels or anybody's home. I rarely do that now anyways unless I know the person. I prefer my own surroundings.

There are tattoos and there are tattoos. Some are art. Some are graffiti. It's impossible to generalize. Even with well done artistic tattoos, I prefer a sense of proportion, symmetry and consistency. I don't like the skin to be overwhelmed with multiple tattoos. For me the body is the work of art. The tattoo is just an embellishment.

I am almost entirely incall based. I don't take on many clients, but I want to feel confident with the ones that I do. I found that other methods don't always work. For example, other providers are not always straightforward or forthcoming about their clients - at least, in this city! :icon_biggrin: Cell phones are untraceable, you know the drill. I link my postings back to Linked In where possible. Most of my clients have postings on Linked In. You can spot the dodgy ones - no photo, few connections, ridiculous job. And of course, you can expand your screening research from there. If the guy at the door doesn't look like Mr. Linked In, you know what to do. Of course, this is not for everybody. And it won't tell you about temprament or behaviour. But he will know that you know who he is, and that couts for something. I like the comment earlier about trust. If he is forthcoming and not the kind to mock screening, the trust element goes up. After all. we wouldn't be in business long if we violated it, would we?

Well from reading another thread, and just common sense and common courtesy, I would imagine a client/potential client asking for services not offered must be a turn off. Read the lady's website, it'll let you know what a lady's boundaries are A rambling RG

I do prefer calling over text of course and will Not book and.confirm.through text but if texting me please at least be respectful especially when making first contact It's funny not.long after I posted this a had a young guy text me ...hey Wats up girl! Lolol no thanks

I find this thread very interesting going forward with possible changes to prositution laws coming up. Screening will be huge, as I find more and more ladies are using a preferred method,their own site, or other sites that assist ladies for clients to be screened for their sole protection. Regardless of what method the lady uses currently, I can see more requirement for stricter screening than it is now, that is just my opinion. I have absolutely no issue with giving proper screening methods from a provider, as it only makes the transition between both go so much smoother. I use currently P411 for here in Canada and also used for the USA, I have a good number of "okays" on P411 and it works so well well when booking with a VIP courtesan may it be here in our country or in that fact another country. If things change going forward, and guys don't want to give that information to a provider, guys could be SOL. Just my take on it.

When I screen, I can be particular. I find that hotels here ask for the name of the person you are trying to connect to (the upscale ones), so I do ask for the name the room is booked under, otherwise I can't verify your actually there. Safety is a huge concern to me, I use discretion, I'm not going to call your cell phone unless you ask me to, and I'm not going to get into random conversations with you, but providers have to give out lots of details, yet we don't get a lot of answers back to our questions. I'm inviting you into my home sometimes, I want to know who's coming to me.

The ladies do deserve our thanks, gratitude and appreciation. I remember every lady and encounter I've had since embarking on this lifestyle. It isn't every lady who can be a professional companion, so for those ladies who are, and provide a intimate escape, yes, a thank you is well deserved. I know seeing companions has brought a certain joy to my life. And for a lady agreeing to see us after we initiate contact to her to have an encounter, her need for screening is understandable. Until we meet in person for the very first time, irrespective of emails, pm's etc, we are strangers. Screening is a case of the lady's safety and well being versus a man's privacy...well safety and well being trump privacy IMHO. And if privacy is an issue for a man, then contact and see a companion who requires less information from a potential client. Also screening allows a lady to determine if she and a potential client will be compatible or not The lady wants as much as the potential client to have a good encounter and that will happen if both lady and gentleman are compatible But for what the ladies do for us, again, they deserve our thanks, gratitude and appreciation So I'll sign off here with a THANK YOU :-) RG

@Emily Rushton: you wrote:" I never altered my rate and it was never a problem, so don't go telling these girls that they should change their donation to reflect the lower economic standing in a city, that is complete bullshit." First, no insults. Second, where did I write about "lower economic standing in a city"? Third, you clearly misunderstood my point - when I specifically ask a lady to drop all she is doing and come see me in Kingston from another city, negotiating is unavoidable. Additional Comments: It appears that the word "negotiate" elicits feelings of horror in some people. Negotiate need not be a "dirty" word. Let us consult Merriam-Webster for its definition: Definition of NEGOTIATE intransitive verb : to confer with another so as to arrive at the settlement of some matter transitive verb : to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty> Examples of NEGOTIATE 1. The customer wanted to negotiate over the price. 2. We negotiated a fair price. I have chosen those definitions and examples that are pertinent to our debate. Now, is there an inherent negativity residing in any of the definitions and examples given above? I must emphasise that I am talking of a situation where a lady in a city different from mine packs a certain anatomical feature that attracts me so powerfully that I can hardly contain myself(lol). I therefore respectfully ask her to drop everything she is doing and come see me in Kingston. Under such a condition, negotiating( in a TRUE sense of the word) is unavoidable.