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I will carry on as I have always done. The sooner the bill is challenged the better. I doubt that it will be me involved but I will be supportive. If it is to be me: Bring it on!

Yup...

I expect apartment buildings to have a locked door with an intercom system. I also assume I am on camera in the lobby. (Nothing illegal is taking place in the lobby.) This is standard and I have no issue with this. If you are talking about a doorman (doorperson?) and having to indicate the person you are visiting, that would likely make me uncomfortable, (and would likely cause suspicion for the SP after a while) but intercoms are standard and safer for all involved. No issue there for me.

The same holds true of companions and prospective clients in this lifestyle. Yes, the client is ALWAYS right, but the companion decides who will be her clients. Just seemed appropriate for this thread RG :-)

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I suspect that if she had behaved "like a lady" she would never have made the news. I might not agree with her methods that day, however without her the law would not have been struck down. I found the senators were in fact the idiots. Thank you Ms Bedford.

Terri Jean Bedford has caused a stir and issued a threat as may be seen HERE, and isn`t it of interest that the hearings are back on the news again. I sincerely and respectfully disagree with the comments that were written about that article arguing that her action is wrong and unprofessional and unethical. I gave this opinion once before when the topic was in the news and the silence was understandably deafening, but I shall repeat it. IF someone truly believes that Bill C-36 will cause physical harm and or death to even one sex worker, then I argue that taking whatever legal action is required to prevent that from happening is not only acceptable but also a responsibility. If that includes naming a client then so be it. If I threatened a sex worker with physical harm then the fact that I had been a paying client should NOT give me immunity. Threatening to release the names of clients who are planning an action that will kill women is not enough. Doing it after the bill is passed is irresponsible. I argue that if her statements are true then the information should be released immediately to the press before the law is passed and then let the press do the job that they have thus far chosen not to do. Their are ways to do it. In 1974 Deep Throat, whoever he is is unknown to this day, along with press investigation brought down a presidency. I do believe that the hypocrisy of some of these government members, NOT their use of legal sex workers, could cause this government to fall, and this bill along with it. I am writing a totally politically incorrect comment that most will disagree with. I know that. There is no way that any sex worker or perhaps any client should publicly agree with this. All I ask is that all sex workers ask themselves where does client privilege stop and protecting your own life and lives of fellow sex workers begin. Sorry if I made anyone feel uncomfortable. I don`t think that this is just a game if lives are on the line. MN2 (who apparently is not such a nice guy.)

Rude people. Technology has created a ton of them! How did hello how are you become "cost?"

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Next Senate meeting on bill C-36: 17 September http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenCommitteeBusiness/Notice.aspx?parl=41&ses=2&comm_id=11&Language=E&meeting_id=15415

I have a high level of discretion I work to protect. So appreciate the question Mareana. Here is how I feel about it. - I have no problems with a simple buzz in and/or camera system at the front door of an apartment/condo. I usually try to enter at a time when no one else is standing there. The lady is expecting me, probably because we just texted, and so it is a quick enter the number, buzz and I'm in. - I've also been to a ladies incall where it was self-buzz in but they also had a concierge. I was a little more nervous but they didn't interact with me. I kind of view it like walking into a hotel and you see people in the lobby/front desk. The key is just try to be confident or look like you belong. - I've never experienced it at an incall but perhaps the more nervous scenario might be where I had to interact with someone and sign in. I think you're considering more 'option 1', which for me would be no problem. In fact some security to protect the ladies is completely understandable. You are worth protecting! XO Cub

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If you are on Rogers, be aware that the Rogers' DNS system lies. Your system saves (caches) the wrong answer, and that can confuse it. I doubt the HP diagnostics are getting the right solution, just tripping up on the Roger's system violating specification. Use the google 8.8.8.8 resolver. (Trash the PC for the hobby. Mac or Linux if you care about your privacy) As for the modem, I haven't a clue what is wrong.

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How does C36 relate to this? A secure building is always a good idea. It won't stop a surprise visit from the po-po if that's what you are wondering.

Would need to know more details about your environment but this link may be of use to you, in particular method 2 (problem persists) http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-networking/i-keep-getting-this-message-your-computer-appears/7b1f225b-5936 -495e-be3d-9ec1d074d3b5

It really doesn't matter how elaborate or simple an ad or website is...the fact is some guys just either don't read or don't care...lol they will ask the same questions anyway. Some dudes just look at the pics...C'est la vie. I either answer or don't..depends on my mood.

Yesterday went to the bank to transfer some money out of a TFSA. Only tellers there, no one there who could do it. But told it could be done over the phone and was provided the number to call. Called it today, and after going through the voice mail crap, finally got a customer service representative. Then after giving all information to ID myself, and telling them what I want, after about fifteen minutes they come back with "we can't do that over the phone, go to your local branch" WTF my local branch told me to call you, and no one was there the day I went to help me do this. Not too impressed. RG

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I sell stuff for my job. Sometimes i give a good customer a deal. A better deal than i should. Sometimes i have had those customers talk to much about that deal to the wrong people. They basically screw themselves from getting any deals ever again. If a girl ever bent rules of the establishment for me special like. Then i should keep quit about it. Even on an anonymous forum.

There's more to a guy's likeability than his wallet. I know millionaires who are great guys and millionaires who are complete jerks. Additional Comments: Yes, risk avoidance may be conjoined with "nice" and risk acceptance with "bad boy". A nice guy will stick in his decent job, a bad boy will accept the risk of quitting and looking for a better job, or going to night school to get a trade. The one with the better job will attract the better mate, that's the Selfish Gene 101. Pairing with a better caregiver not only secures the success of the female's offspring but the success of the offspring's offspring. There was an interesting Star Trek The Next Generation episode about this. Picard went back in time and re-lived his life. He tried to avoid all his mistakes and always played it safe. He ends up back on the Enterprise but Riker is Captain. Picard is an anonymous science worker. All those risks and mistakes made him the man he was because he learned from them. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I've made bigger mistakes than you can imagine but I would not change my life one bit.

Agree with this 100%. If someone doesn't take the time to read anything on my page or ads and my auto response to their email, I assume they aren't serious and I don't take their requests seriously. It's just blatant ignorance and disrespect. I can't stand either.

The stereotype is that sex workers are victims and need to be save. What Bedford did was the exact opposite of that stereotype. But her title as dominatrix, this may be the only time a non-sex worker sees a dominatrix in the media act this way and it may leave that impression they are people who don't play by the rules: those rules being, "act like a lady" (as per Plett's comments). Even she said it herself, "I told myself I would act like a woman and not a dominatrix." That's the message being sent: there are women and then there are whores. This Bill, the politicians and the abolitionists re-enforce that message. Not Terri Jean--she is defying normative standards of what it means to "act like a lady" and CPCers don't like that.

I will say that I am a grower, not much to be seen lol till arousal sets in. Then it is more than adequate, so I have been told. :-)

I find myself agreeing with MN2. This wrong headed and dangerous legislation, I think, changes the game and may require some drastic action. If the hypocrites are outed (as RG alluded - we could only hope) it won't be because some provider is being unprofessional but because this legislation is a dangerous and thoughtless attack on innocent people. I don't think there are many people on this board who consider C-36 and the process it is following to be 'professional' in any way.

This is a tricky subject to discuss. Clients' anonymity and discretion is always sex workers Number 1 priority in their lives...it's their livelihood! But this whole debate is NOT about clients. Yes, clients experience bad things too sometimes. Bedford isn't about clients though. It's about sex workers' safety. I think her reacting like this is very reasonable for how politicians are treating not only her but *all* sex workers/allies/orgs at these meetings. Bedford isn't about clients though and if a Bill is to respond to Bedford, it also needs to shift it's focus. This isn't about clients: the politicians are making it about clients, the abolitionists are making it about clients and the Bill is about the clients. Politicians are not playing nice. The abolitionists are not playing nice. The Bill and everything that comes with it just makes me angry. Grrr. :whip: Note: I don't agree with outing anyone. Like ever. But her anger? Very reasonable for how sex workers are being treated and the Bill isn't even law.

The Canadian HIV/AIDS Legal Network has posted on its website its brief to Senate: http://www.aidslaw.ca/publications/interfaces/downloadFile.php?ref=2297 Brief to the Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs regarding Bill C-36, the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act This brief compares the Criminal Code provisions proposed by Bill C-36 against the Criminal Code provisions struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada in R v. Bedford. It explains how the new law, if enacted, will replicate the effects of the old law on the security of sex workers and, as such, reproduce the harms the Supreme Court of Canada found to be unconstitutional. It further explains how these harms also constitute violations of international human rights law and how criminalization of sex work undermines the global response to the HIV/AIDS epidemics. Finally, it issues a recommendation for Bill C-36 to be rejected in its entirety.

Another illustration of the utter pointlessness of attempts to prevent people from getting it on with other people, even when there's money involved. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/sex-marathon TLDR version: Porn star wants implants, fucks 25 guys in a night (on film) to fund it. Usual suspects try to shut it down, and fail due to some fairly simple "paying for X, not Y" arrangements. I really wonder when people in various positions of power and influence are going to work out that this kind of thing will happen, has always happened, and won't stop just because they disapprove? As far as I can see, their efforts to prevent this event had only two results: it was moved from an RV to an apartment (which doesn't strike me as a bad thing) and it resulted in a lot of free publicity.

References tend to be a US thing because US law is different from Canadian law so providers want to be sure that a client who shows up is a real client and a safe client. With the new law possibly coming into effect in Canada, it is likely that both providers and clients may want references to make sure that when an escort shows up she really is an escort and not a police officer in disguise and the same goes for clients being real clients. References are a part of life in this job and are likely to be a bigger part of life in the future. There is nothing with asking for one but please inform the person providing the reference that she or he will be hearing from such and such.

Definitely, that's why I said to contact the lady you are asking to give you a reference. She won't be contacted out of the blue about you, and (yes, you'll know if she'll provide a reference for you too ;-) ) And one thing to remember about this lifestyle. It is poly amorous. We all know everyone sees others, be it clients seeing other ladies, and ladies see other clients. Don't worry if the lady knows you see other ladies, she expects you to see other ladies A rambling RG

Liquor, I have been reading your posts for a while and although I have never met you, I would like to tell you how much I respect you and feel inspired by you for your positive attitude, your courage and strength. Lots of people here love you and think about you often. :) So yes, enjoy yourself, have fun and keep creating beautiful memories. ;) Cheers

Under the Dome on Global. I really enjoyed the book.

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I've created a good backup plan. Been making some good contacts knowing there was a possibility of this happening, so now I have some phone numbers of those I can trust to keep things hush, hush. As Old Dog said in another thread, this is just a bill and the Conservatives are taking loads of heat over this. It may be a popular bill in Alberta with their bible thumping voters, but in the rest of the country people are disgusted by this. Considering you need to win Ontario and Quebec to win the election, they are pissing off the wrong voter base. Either way, if I get fed up with all of this, I can just pack up and move either home or somewhere else.

Well, the criminal record part doesn't worry me too much. But that's just me. I think the big thing here is what some have already mentioned. The enforcement of the law. The government will toss a little money at it and in the short term, police will step up the presence on the street side and at questionable agencies where under age girls could be involved. The "Johns" will get busted and the Tories and religious right wing will be singing the praises and twisting their arms patting themselves on the back. Over some time, however, the resources won't be there for L.E. and prostitution in this country will be like everywhere else in the world. Supposedly illegal to buy sex but most cops just looking the other way other than in circumstances where it is blatantly being exposed to the general public. All these "morality" laws are just made to appease the do-gooders who don't want to see it. Honestly, I truly believe if you were to sit down privately with most cops, they probably aren't too much in favor of this legislation. It just creates extra work on an already heavy workload. That's just the way I see this going. Sex has been "for sale" since the dawn of human history. I doubt this will have a great impact in the long term. I also doubt the cops will be targetting touring or discreet SP's and their clients as much as the guys picking girls up off the street corner. Having said that, any decision I make about continuing this hobby or not will be based on many other factors, not this one.

I have always start off with tea and cookies for outcalls like Suite Escapes suggests. The donation envelope is always on the hall table by the front door. So there is no visible transaction. We socialise over tea/coffee and a lite snack. Some casual conversation and never about sex. Although there can be some lite flirting... Who knows what that will lead to... ;)

You are correct, however if you noticed in my other posts on the subject, IF YOU DO NOT ENQUIRE ABOUT SEXUAL ACTIVITES, THEN CHARGES CAN NOT STICK. This is the main point in all my post so far. Ladies: Even though we CAN advertise as INDY, if your ad is " sexual services" then in a way you are incriminating your client who merely responded to your ad. If your ad was for TIME AND COMPAIONSHIP/REALAXATION, well then any LE that could moderate either email, txt, conversations, then they still will have no clear charge to lay. Gent: Do not ask what the rate for GFE or BBBJ etc, as this also shows intent for purchase "sexual services" You simply ask what the donation for her time or relaxation massage. You now will book blindly not knowing ALL the activities on your first date. As others mentioned, we all did in call even though was illegal but not enforced. At least now it is legal to work in call, lol...just come over for tea and cookies...lol...