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One day last week I called Felina up to try and set-up a last minute appointment for that evening , but unfortunately she said she was busy , as a friend was coming over for dinner that evening. However 30 minutes later she texted back , and said her friend had to change her plans and could no longer make it so she was free and I could come for a visit if I still could, which I replied YES! 10 minutes later she texted again , and says hmmmm, would you like to come for dinner, as she had a gourmet dinner for two on , and she hated for it to go to waste....and after hearing the menu , and what was for desert I couldn't refuse. I was greeted at the door by the lovely Felina in a nice gown, soft music, soft candle lights , and a glass of wine, and table set for two, and the wonderful aroma of food!! After a nice welcoming kiss , and due to the fact dinner would not be ready for another 30 mins , we decided to start with desert and headed off to the bedroom to work up our appetite! Once desert was taken care of , we got dressed , and back to the dining room , and I was treated to some amazing food , great conversation, more wine, and plenty of teasing throughout....so much that a couple of times we almost headed back to the bedroom , but the food was so good we resisted the temptation ...my god she can be a tease, as I was hard throughout dinner!!...but the minute we finished the last bite we made our way slowly back to the bedroom kissing and groping and pulling off clothes as we went , leaving a trail of clothes in our wake!! Needless to say desert was amazing , and I enjoyed a couple of servings until I was totally exhausted and couldn't take anymore! On leaving I suggested that perhaps she start offering a session like this on a regular basis , which she said she might do, as she loves to cook , and she loves sex ! I can tell you her cooking skills are equal to her bedroom skills, and I was blown away by both! I'm not sure what she would charge for a evening like this, as she gave me a deal as it was not planned, but I gave her just over twice her hourly rate , and I was there about 2.5 hrs + , and that was a incredible deal, as the meal and wine alone were worth well over $100! Hopefully she starts to offer this on a regular basis, as I would definitely repeat this expierience. Just thought I would share!

Wow. I could not let your statements stand without challenging them. First, you made an awkward situation by ignoring the instructions given on which door to enter. Just because you don't like the front door, does not give you the right to enter through another door. If you don't like the choice they directed you too, don't go in. Go somewhere else. I know that the roving hands is a real pet peeve of many. If the ma moves away then please stop. Nothing worse then those that feel because they are paying for massage and he they ALSO have the right to try to get more services. Did you pay for the extra time and services you tried to get? I used to have 2 rates one for massage/he and one for massage/full service. I would clarify ahead of time. However those paying for he would always try to put their fingers in my kitty, try daty etc. I stopped the 2 rates because asking for access to kitty is in fact a full service. Just an FYI, for those do not provide full service, it feels a lot like sexual assault when those try for more services - especially when they have clearly indicated they want you to stop. Please consider this the next time you try a stunt like that again.

Addendum to my previous post: I mistook Maddie for another lady named Maddy. I do not know anything about Maddie's reputation. However, having said that, I do not see anything wrong with her simply asking a question to help her establish what kind of screening she wishes to implement. I have been reading some the posts here, and all I can say is give the lady a break. It takes time for someone to establish herself and build up a reputation and posting history. If some of you don't care to provide certain types of personal information, so be it, but there is no need to be condescending. Oh and not to hijack, but as for posting history on cerb, some of the nicest clients I have met from this board had (have) little or no posts.

Well if i was the one that farted i would start with scared till i was sure it was a dry one. Then i would laugh at myself for being so silly. Then if i realized it was not me that farted i would be scared because that means there is one BIG FUCKING mouse or spider that farted. Then i would laugh because a fart thst loud from something thst small would make it fly across the room like a jet. Then i would be scared as i would wonder if it survived the jet travel across the room. Then i would laugh at myself for being so silly and go back to sleep. Only never to wake up because the physco killer in the room killed me because i laughed at his fart! Posted via Mobile Device

You point about an sp providing her real name is not a valid point. The sp who is requesting a reference has already provided a wealth of information about herself, including photos, general location, email contact, phone # contact, general description including age, and references in the form of multiple reviews. You would not be asked for references or real name info from anyone with less than a solid reputation. Which means that providing a real name isn't going to make her any more reputable or reliable, or trustworthy. All of that is and has been proven many times over, in the form of her reputation thru longetivity, never seeing anything negative about her, her posts either in forums like this or on a blog or twitter, etc etc. All most sps ask from you is consistent contact information, and two names of other sps that you know of that are also reputable and reliable, and you know this because you have met them, spent time with them, and reviewed them positively. so these are the ladies you have trusted with your own time and $$, and these are the ladies who are going to confirm to another sp that you yourself are a reputable and reliable client. And what leads sps to think someone is not reputable and reliable is a person who changes his contact information, phone #, email address and even his fake name, or even his review board handle frequently (to avoid 'detection') So that and what has already been mentioned: when you contact someone who requires references, you don't just email back the names and website of those 2 sps, you first contact the 2 (or 3) and let them know you will be providing their names to be your references to,, for example, Mature Angela, who will then be contacting them to ask about you. In those emails you will remind them 'here is the email i used to contact and book you, here is the day and time of the appt, and here is the session i chose". You'll note that during that exchange i haven't mentioned that you provided the 3 sps there with your real first and last name, your home address, or your work contact information. Just whatever you used to contact the other sps, and had successful appts with them. We can debate all day about whether or not sps deserve the right to demand personal info from clients, (they do deserve that, and most have earned the right to demand it), or that they aren't giving out as much personal info as they are asking for, but at the end of the day, they've already given everything except their real first and last names, so what more could you possibly need from them. they are easy to find if you wanted to cause them trouble, you wouldn't also need their real name to do that.

I noticed you just passed this milestone. Congratulations and keep posting.

"Has hobbying created this side effect? Does any other hobbyist feel the same way?" Crickets lol....I expect this cuts a little too close to the bone for some. But there is no question in my mind. Peace MG

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Amen sister and thanks for saying what others am sure were thinking..At Phoenix there is a front entrance and the back can be for leaving but don't go through if told not to.. Also agree with this guy trying to feel up Grace,she will say what she is OK with and please respect that..if U are not sure what is OK then ask and will find out most of these providers are not in it for getting groped or trying to get their kitty rubbed..need to respect these massage providers and go elsewhere for full service.. otherwise enjoy the rest of the massage and if a HE is offered then be happy with that..

Vancouver East Liberals will host town hall meeting on Bill C-36, which criminalizes prostitution by CHARLIE SMITH on SEP 22, 2014 at 4:57 PM http://www.straight.com/news/734206/vancouver-east-liberals-will-host-town-hall-meeting-bill-c-36-which-criminalizes-prostitution MORE THAN THREE months ago, I suggested that Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau was the only hope for sex workers. It came in the wake of the Conservative government unveiling Bill C-36, which criminalizes the customers of sex workers. Some commenters on this website ripped into me for suggesting that Trudeau would do this. After all, Trudeau has previously supported the Nordic model, which also criminalizes the client. My response is that Trudeau changed his views on marijuana. There's no reason he wouldn't reverse his position on prostitution if there were sufficient public support and if evidence led the Liberals in that direction. The research by SFU's John Lowman and others is already clear. Sex workers' lives are jeopardized when the state drives their industry underground. That's why the Supreme Court of Canada concluded that Criminal Code prohibitions on soliciting clients in public, keeping a common bawdy house, and living off the avails of prostitution are unconstitutional. The government's response, Bill C-36, might as well be called the Willie Pickton Law. That's because it will make it easier for predators to kill sex workers after the Harperites have once again pushed sex workers to the margins. I'm surprised that Justice Minister Peter MacKay would countenance something like this, but who knows what's going on his brain? This week, the Vancouver East Liberals have announced that they will host a town hall meeting on Bill C-36. It suggests that the party has an open mind on this issue. Door open at 6:30 p.m. at the Strathcona Community Centre on Thursday (September 25). The panel features sex-workers' advocate Jamie Lee Hamilton, Vancouver park commissioner Sarah Blyth, and UBC researcher Becki Ross. It's taking place in the riding of NDP MP Libby Davies, who's long been an advocate for increasing sex workers' safety. In 2002, Davies introduced a motion in Parliament to review prostitution laws. That was the same year that Pickton was charged with 26 murders. Late last year, Davies issued a statement welcoming the Supreme Court of Canada's ruling striking down three sections of the Criminal Code. "The exploitation, murder and violence against sex trade workers in Canada happens at an alarming rate, and until today, the laws dealing with prostitution remained unchanged and governments remained unwilling to realistically deal with this growing public safety issue," she said. "These laws have been a failure, both from the perspective of assisting and protecting sex workers as well as in mitigating the impacts of street prostitution on local communities." Davies also spoke at a rally this year opposing Bill C-36. So why is Justin Trudeau and not NDP leader Tom Mulcair the only hope for sex workers? It's because most of Davies' colleagues in Parliament have been silent on this issue. And if the NDP forms government, there's no guarantee that it will reverse the criminalization of customers and other unconstitutional aspects of Bill C-36 until Mulcair delivers an unequivocal statement on this issue. It's fine and dandy for him to stand up in Parliament and put the government's feet to the fire with regard to Senate expenses. But Bill C-36 is legislation that will result in people dying unnecessarily. Why isn't the Opposition leader putting as much energy into this? In the meantime, the federal Liberals are seeking public input. That's the first step along the road to developing better policies. It's why I still believe that Justin Trudeau is the only hope for sex workers. Follow Charlie Smith on Twitter @csmithstraight. ***************************** May says prostitution bill is 'unfixable' http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/22/may-says-prostitution-bill-is-unfixable OTTAWA -- Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said the government prostitution Bill C-36 is "unfixable." "I couldn't find a way to amend the bill and actually fix it," she said, recommending the bill be ditched entirely. The controversial legislation was back to the House of Commons for a final review Monday, so opposition MPs from all parties had one final chance to weigh in. The Supreme Court last December ruled Canada's existing laws on the world's oldest profession were unconstitutional and ordered Parliament to come up with something new. Initiated by Justice Minister Peter MacKay, the overarching theme behind the bill is to criminalize the purchase of sex, but not its sale. Though he's been criticized for it, MacKay has stated he believes his "made-in-Canada" approach is the best step toward the "aspirational" goal of eliminating prostitution altogether.

I like Isabella's perception, whenever I can I love to run around like a dirty eight year old except I have nice ta ta's that bounce up and down and are fun to play with.

My only concern is whether I should block my nose or rush out of the room lol!

Sounds like an evening to die for. I think years ago Jade offered a session which included dinner. Its a great idea if the lady likes to cook especially for out of towners who get tired of eating alone is some hotel restaurant.

Welcome TM, there's a lot of warmth, friendship and happy hobbying to be had here.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the poll was rigged.

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1) Be Scared, somebody could be in the room and stepped on a duck, sorry, too much time on my hands this morning, back to work time......

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Well, from my childhood in a bedroom next to parent's bedroom, I would have to add a 3rd option: My dad's response: "Jesus!!!!" LOL

Remember, when an encounter is booked, it is the man (prospective client) who contacts the lady, not the other way around. The man does not set the terms for his contacting a lady. The lady sets the terms for a man contacting and booking an encounter with her. The man should know this by reading her website and board profile, plus her postings on CERB (or other boards) Finally, a booking is made to the lady's SP Persona name. That is how the man knows her, and will continue to know her. Her persona is for a man's purpose and requirements, her name, he doesn't need to know her real name. For the lady, a man, a stranger is asking her to be intimate with him. The lady isn't going out soliciting men to see her. And she has to keep her safety and security in mind. A man, if privacy is his concern about seeing a particular lady should just move on to find one he does trust with his privacy. If he is uncomfortable with this, see ladies that don't require screening Expecting the lady to give you her real name after you give her yours as some sort of quid pro quo you'll find yourself being denied a lot of dates And a prospective client insisting on personal information from a lady is going to be raising red flags for her At the end of the day, it is the man, out of the blue, who initiated contact with the lady to see her, not the other way around. Why would a woman give her personal information to a man who contacted her out of the blue RG

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Yes indeed its a beautiful thing :)

This is the only poll I ever won!!!

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Congratulations. I've enjoyed many of your posts and look forward to more. Enjoy life and thanks!

Worst. Poll. Ever. :p :p :biggrin:

Hi Rebecca, It is certainly not for the classy individuals like you appear to be to be nickel and dimming and entertain anything similar. With a full service provider, one should have more class and not try bargaining for this or that. Don't entertain such requests, and you will have a respectful clientele! Take care

Mouthwatering!!!

Congrats...

Congratulations!

Wow I love reading positive notes, live love and laugh three of my favorite things xx

Interesting Thread.... not sure I see it as clearly defined as the three options presented. I kinda think my ideal would be an ongoing connection with a lady who spans all three identified options and has the personal depth of character to go beyond these three stereotypes. If I am required to pick just one lady I want a lady who challenges me intellectually as much as she excites me sexually..... someone who will during our time together make me feel like the Centre of the universe but who is strong enough in her own personal awareness that she is not creating a fantasy world but instead allowing me for a few hours to share in her world and for her to be part of mine. I have said this many times that it is the connection I have with the lady that is without a doubt the single most desirable thing for me... but in my opinion the connection needs to be real for both people for the relationship to be ongoing and long lasting. Now before anyone jumps on the words real and relationship I should clarify that I am using those terms in the context of a SP / Client environment.... I'm not looking for a GF or a wife... I'm happily married but in an ongoing regular SP /Client relationship I am looking "real".... real chemistry.... real common interests.... real conversation.... real mutual enjoyment... if it's not real then it's time to move on. I guess I have been extremely lucky in this industry as I have met ladies who I feel I have had those "real" connections with and it has been amazing and our meeting have spanned all three of the options suggested by the OP. I have also met ladies who have been a pleasure to meet who have met a more short term need for sex or exploration lolol... It's all pretty amazing when you think about it... I'm kinda glad it does not fit into a simple model... the world and each of us are complex... how could a business relationship premised on something as intimate as this be simple.? Just my opinion

I will be visiting and I make crazy messes!! Hopefully the timing works out for you! Piper xoxo

Yes, congrats are in order. Thanks for your contributions, looking forward to the next 500... Best, toine

Congrats g11! It's great to hit that milestone.

Congrats on reaching your first 500 posts....

Congratulations. the next 500 should come a bit faster :)

Well done GM11. A milestone for sure. It was nice to have met you a while back at the very first social that I ever went to.

Congratulations Gentleman11 on the 500 post milestone Looking forward to your next 500 posts RG

I"m 112 and couldn't take the poll! LOL....actually I'm in the largest group so far but I don't feel like I'm that old. I have a young mentality and try to keep up innovations and changes. I sometimes catch my reflection in the mirror and think "Who is that old guy?" lol

I'm 54... not sure my priorities gave changed that much with my age... my ability to act on my priorities has.

Party is code for drug use in Winnipeg. And meth is rampant in the Peg. As FortunateOne says, ads with this kind of script are bad bad bad! Advertisers use them so you cannot cut and paste into search engines.

I love a woman who can squirt it is so freaking hot. I love when a woman lets me use a toy such as a G spot vibe while also going down on her to make her squirt.

I think one reason why sps dislike the 'your daughter' question is that it kind of presumes that as parents, sps failed the test if we say that we are OK with it. It also presumes that as sps, we are more likely to encourage our children to choose sex work. The reality, in some cases for some sps, we are simply more open minded about sexuality and sex activity choices, perhaps. So if we are OK with our female or male relatives choosing sex work over something else, it is because we know it can be done safely and healthily and by choice, so of course we would be OK with them choosing it. We know also that it is entirely possible to do this without coming to any harm, over many years, achieve one's goals in a short time period, and have fun along the way. If i wanted my daughter (or son) to be able to enjoy their live, not live pay cheque to paycheque, afford to go to university, afford to travel, and afford to pay their bills and not do a lot of struggling, then I am going to be OK with the type of (legal) activity that allows them to do this. now that's a lot of rambling. :)

i was about to start a thread with a similar topic, but good thing i came across this one. Generally speaking, is it required for the client to show an sp their ID when meeting them at the door? Also, when booking with agencies such as MGF, VIPOTG, jerseygirls etc, what sort of information must the client provide? can he/she use an alias?

I have notice that it happen more lately that some gents have extreme reactions to our refusal to see someone Guys bringing pictures of the sps and went to the front desk and gave her room number to get kick out,contacted the landlord of the building to give them unit and advertise lady. Info ,treaths of bad reviews,harassments,insults,try to book under other numbers names This type of behaviors have increase the past few years.. Almost like the clients has no fear and feel completely empower of not leaving us the choice..Which is scary I think it's part of any human being to dislike been decline services,intimate,well rejected however we all need to understand that in such circumstance it should be accepted and move on as it's usually for the best interest of both parties VJ