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We will not be able to allow any known fs prostitutes to advertise here once this changes to law. This means that any ladies who wish to post on cerb can not be fs prostitutes or offer sexual services. We can still allow massage, dancers, fetish providers and escorts but only escorts who do not provide sexual services. Anyone offering services on websites off cerb that advertises fs activities will not be permitted to post here either. Any known fs prostitute will not be permitted to advertise on cerb so anyone thinking they will just send guys to their website for fs details sorry but those ladies will not be permitted to use cerb either. under this new law. Only non fs escorts, massage, fetish, etc will be able to be here. Same deal as the usa has in most areas. We would not be able to offer advertising or membership here to anyone who offers sex for money. If you are a know prostitute i am afraid this law would make it illegal for us to allow you to post ads here. I suggest you look at offering massage, non sexual fetishes, exotic dancing, escort services that do not include anything beyond time and companionship in a non sexual way. Anyone currently offering these services should consider a change in career to make all the conservative suits who bullied this law in happy and proud they stopped you from doing what you want to do. I say throw in the towel and just switch careers so you can continue to advertise here but just stop offering sex as part of your services. becoming non fs escorts will allow the guys to continue to see you legally (you cant have sex with them for money but at least you can spend some nice time withe them .... talking and playing board games... I here rummy is fun) I am sure many guys would like to just spend some private time with you behind closed doors or out on the town. Your time is still valuable so whatever you choose to do other then sex you can still advertise here. Sorry but anyone who wishes to remain a prostitute can no longer be part of the site and if you wish i can close your account for you if you wish. The law does say if we (site managers) are aware of any prostitutes who are advertising the we would be breaking the law. I dont know any of you personally or know what you do behind closed doors, the only way i will know is if you advertise it. Any one who advertises prostitution services on or off cerb will not be able to advertise here (including profile). It will be the law and i must follow it. Also who told the government that they have any right in policing the internet? The internet is not a physical place (and in our case our servers are in another country). I cant imagine they have any right to tell us what we can and can not do is cyberspace. If your doing something like downloading or uploading illegal movies, music or pornography that is a different story as those files are being downloaded to a persons personal computer or distributed from a persons computer but looking at text on the internet from a server located in another country.... Better go after google and all other search engines as they will still be advertising escorts too. Sorry but i cant see the government or law having any right to tell me what i can discuss view or post on a website (especially one located in another country). Sorry i dont think any judge in any canadian court of law would be ok with this. Lets just try to take more freedoms from canadians... democratic.. conservative majority? communist ? Please tell me whats the difference and why did we fight for our freedoms to have so many taken from us? Hmmm... I see a revolution if the future of canada cause us canadians will take it to a certain point (as we are pretty passive) but we have a point where you push too far. Sorry ladies, the government says i wont be able to advertise prostitution here so anyone who wishes to offer such things once this law passes must not advertise here anymore... If you want to offer massage, fetish, dancing or just escort (date people) and be compensated for your time (no sex please) then i guess its ok to post here but please no fs advertisers once the law passes so if you dont want to change your career then we will have to part ways. :( Cerb will remain as a discussion site for non fs escorts, massage, fetish, and exotic dancers and clubs. The sp section will remain open for non fs escorts cause if your still going out on non fs dates with customers then you still need a way to help protect yourselves and each other from any bad people. The fs advertising ares will be closed and we will open a escort section for those offering escorting (paid companionship that does not include sex services) We must comply with the laws i guess. Welcome to america!

I agree, noting anyone does is going to stop it at this point. It's time to make preparations and I think the best thing to do is all come together and challenge the law in court like they did the first time as this new law is just as unconstitutional as the previous.

She seemed to me to be fairly contemptuous of people in general, not just clients. I'm not sure that she represents escorts any more than she represents the rest of humanity.

Past posts (pre C36) shouldn't, (and I'm neither a lawyer nor do I run CERB LOL)be at issue. There were no laws broken at that time, so why the need to remove those posts? Something else that likely needs to be changed on CERB is the recommendation template, no checklist of services a lady offered/provided. And posters must ensure their reco's don't breech C36 law...maybe recos have a moderation period before getting posted Anyhow, a late night rambling before bedtime F*uck C36 Peter MacKay , Stephen Harper and the CPC suck!!! RG

An interesting read. Posted on the other erb. https://medium.com/matter/sex-is-sex-but-money-is-money-e7c10091713f Peace MG

Gents, I have entered back into the wonderful world of camming to give those an opportunity to meet that aren't able to in person. Please contact me for details... http://www.LuxeMulvari.com

This one is a scam. They want you to do a can show first using your credit card. I fell for this not once but twice. After the cam show (which in both cases was a different girl) they will not respond to a meeting. Basically it is an add for a live cam show sight.

The new law which has not come into effect yet is already causing potential clients to refuse to verify. This is the exact problem that the old law caused.

Wait a minute.... are you telling me that there are ladies on this site selling sexual services... i never new that i have met many ladies from her and spent hours and hours in their company... we have discussed sex... our wildest fantasies... things we imagine would happen in a country which allowed prostitution but god forbid we even act upon those urges... i think many of you may have misunderstood what happens... this is just a discussion board... bookings with cerb ladies are just field trips for more discussion... not for sex... after all we are not perverts. Like the other upstanding law abiding moral countries that provide leadership in the world we don't have prostitution in canda... you know similar to the way Iran and Russia don't have gay people. Now if you will excuse me i have to leave and go to my optician to get fitted for my rose coloured glasses. Just my opinion

This is precisely my approach. Ladies who operate discreetly and professionally have never been on LE's radar. Especially in certain areas of the country where the municipalities take a much more liberal and friendly view of ladies in the industry. We will see the most adversity in our advertising venues. Those will be restricted, but as Meaghan pointed out: this gives ladies the advantage of no longer catering to the clients who insist on a menu list and is a great opportunity for all of us to up the class level of the industry. Ladies will advertise as ladies, not a McMenu and clients will have to have a bit more tact and eloquence when contacting ladies. Many will dislike this shift as some are more focused on specific services and ladies will be much more reluctant or outright refuse to discuss any particulars of what happens during their time with a client, but I think overall this could be a very good shift. And I like to think of it this way: by removing the menu, we are reducing the probability of a client having a sort of script in his head of how he envisions his encounter to play out. While it's natural to have a scenario of how we hope things will be in our heads, it can actually hinder a great time. Not always, but you know the saying that expectations are preconceived resentments. There rings some truth in that.

Sps in the US have been linking their client's 'fictionalized accounts of the time they spent together" for years, and these 'fantasy' stories are not used as evidence against clients, or sps, so I don't feel there would be any need to remove links to such things.

I don't see why. I'm not aware that there's anything in C36 that's retrospective, so it can't be used to prosecute anything that happened before it became law. That includes ads and recos dating from before then.

If he agrees he will not have "plausible deniability" lololl

I can appreciate the sentiment Lady Sophia, and it's generous of you to give someone the benefit of the doubt. It's possible the person is completely complicit, and yes, it's certainly possible their situation is more complex than that. Either way, however, it may be that the only way to help protect other people from being victimized by the scam is by sharing the information of who did the scamming. It's why, unfortunately, there is a warning section to the forums after all.

I don't understand this post. There's MULTIPLE threads on how this agency is nothing but a scam (or worse). Here's a 3 page post to go along with the link Gabrielle provided: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146788. I'm pretty sure there's more, if you want to go even older. Why would you think they "cleaned up their act"? Why would anyone who has done even a small amount of research ever even think of using this agency? You even said you read earlier reviews... It just doesn't make any sense to me, like, what is your thought process on this one? I think most of the photos are stolen anyway.

To give a bit of advice that is included in many other discussions at the moment, it would be in your best interest NOT to use a menu or a list of acronyms. Writing and maintaining a website takes a lot of time and energy and right now, we are in a flux point between what we are used to and Bill C36. no one knows who is gathering what information at this point to use at a further point so it is best to create your website in a way that doesn't outright describe sexual services at all. This way you are covered now and when things settle out later, you can look at making changes once you know for sure what is good and legal. Rate is for time and companionship only but many like to see the listed rate. Some SP's chose to discuss that only by phone conversation. As for the rest, it's all about you. Be yourself, determine your business model and create around that. Be aware of who you're wanting to attract as a client. Most of all, have fun!

Firstly I'd like to say, I hope I'm posting in the proper area. Many of you have noticed I have been gone since the end of August and I want to thank those who sent emails/PM's/text messages of concern and care. I had to leave NS very quickly to get to my eldest Sister's side once I received a call that she was in hospital and passed 10 days after I arrived. She passed from cancer at the rare tender young age of 37. I really don't want to get in to all the details in the general forum or the type of cancer it was but I will say it was spread through her entire lady area regions and untreatable. My message to the ladies and gents, please don't just brush weird pains and symptoms off, get checked regardless if it is a false alarm. I'm taking it one day at a time and I have suffered much lose due to this evil disease in many forms over the years and for me it doesn't get better only easier to deal with each day. I'm happy to be back and I have missed you all greatly. All My Love and Hugs, Lexy

I was reading that once a bill receives Royal Assent, there is a 30 day grave period in which to adjust and adapt before it is full force. There is still time for people to find their balls and their conscience and not vote for this. The Governor General can withhold assent. It has never been done but there is still a chance. If a few cons get sick/busy and all the Liberals and NDP show up... I'm just saying there is still hope, still chances to sway this, still things we can do. It is not a done deal yet no matter how discouraging it seems. Directing energy to it in the form of "it's already a done deal, nothing can be done, when will it be in effect" only serves to promote it. Have a plan, talk about it...that's fine. What isn't fine is giving up, embracing it before it happens and dismissing all hope.

Peachy's stunning new album - http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9581 A couple of samples -

Unfortunately the chances of C36 having any significant negative impact on the election outcomes for the Conservatives is slim. More likely the bill will feed their right wing base and those it upsets were probably never going to vote, conservative. Unfortunate but true. Just my opinion.

We have to remember, America didn't abolish prostitution. It is still thriving. So on one hand it isn't a bad thing. In the states, clients do abide by the reference/screening process. I recommend clients join verification sites ASAP. I like preferred 411. On the other hand, it does create a huge hassle for providers and clients alike. As per your comments regarding full service providers, the definition of a prostitute isn't someone who offers full service sex for money. In fact, the Bill doesn't even define who a prostitute is. The latest interpretation is in the DOJ's technical paper (http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/protect/p1.html). I understand where you are coming from with having to protect CERB's interests and everyone's interests. The Bill refers to the "selling of sexual services" which isn't necessarily full-service. It could mean fetish, clubs/dancers. The DOJ paper also refers to strip clubs, escort agencies, etc as participating in creating the demand for sexual services which the Bill seeks to abolish; hence, the end demand approach. So even if you discuss clubs/dancers and all other sexual services that are provided by others, then that could also be interpreted as criminal. I don't want to disagree with CERB's policies because CERB is free to choose how they operate. However, I wanted to make the above points in light of this policy change. I think that providers should be encouraged to remove all explicit materials from their websites and should seek to encourage reference/screening/verification processes.

We all are, I am taking this opportunity to upgrade the chatroom to the latest release. Because of the problems I have the chatroom company re-installing the entire system for us.

Howdy ladies and gents. I guess I didn't do a good enough job promoting the return of the diary. I simply jumped on the thread that had 3,600 views stating that the diary was down, and changed the link in my signature along with a few discrete ads on CL. In the last few days I've received numerous PMs and emails from folks that didn't know about the new diary's return and new address. Guess I should give myself a failing grade on marketing the return of the cowboy's diary. It was down for a number of weeks due to some apparent issues with the terms of service, but after all the kind support and encouragement from the many readers here from cerb and other venues I decided to setup shop at a new home on the internet... if you haven't been there yet, check it out and bookmark http://www.cowboysdiary.info, be sure to tell your friends and family too. (ok maybe not your family) pardon me for this shameless plug :)

I just want to take this time to wish every one a happy and safe long weekend. I am thankful for this site and all its wonderful members. This has been an awesome place to come and meet and share with a wonderful bunch of people. Please share here what you are thankful for this Thanksgiving weekend. Hugs to everyone. Cheers, Jeffray

My question Mod, Should FS companions remove links to our Cerb recommendations and/or other reviews on our websites so that it does not show that each FS companion was a previous FS companion and we are now just a "time and companionship" escort to ensure cerb is legal and for LE not to have any reason to accuse cerb of anything illegal? Thanks in advance, Lexy

Wishing a happy Thanksgiving weekend to all my cerb friends!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Hope your holiday weekend was fantastic. There is always a lot to be thankful for, it is good to stop and think and really appreciate all of our blessings.

It was too good to be true....but what a beautiful woman....txted her also but like you, no reply.... :( Posted via Mobile Device

May your sister be without pain and suffering. May you get the rest and care You need to be back and being the super friend and caring Lady you constantly demonstrate to us. Hugs

This is going to be a pain in the butt for all of us.

Sitting back after the dinner and the family time and thinking about what is missing in my life that I would give anything to have back.... i am thankful... but i am also very sad.

Before you buy any TV check out the 4K models. My friend got one yesterday. Wow. Brazzers in 4K.

Believe it or not, it can be nerve wracking for a stripper to walk up to a man, offer a dance only to get turned down. Especially if she sees other dancers approach a customer and being turned down. Perhaps that dancer thinks the first girl that was turned out is more attractive then her. I find that being away from the "pervert stage" as well as letting them approach you from behind helps. So, when picking a seat, try to pick one that is away from the center stage and that also allows the dancers to approach you from any direction (side, front, back). It also helps alot when you are in a high traffic area! lol my 2 cents

I read the article as well. To her, she is living the American dream but it also comes at a price. She does not represent the opinions of all escorts. Just keep that in mind. A lot of the things mentioned sound unrealistic but that's the world she lives in according to her. The lifestyle I lead is very different than hers and not in a bad way either. It was interesting to read but I've heard it all before in similar type of articles.

I've gotten to the point of not even caring what the stores do. I notice but it does nothing as far as my shopping. I'm a guy who goes in, finds what I want, pay for it and leave, regardless of the hype or advertising. I spend so much of my money on tools for work and all the day to day stuff that I keep purchases to a minimum. A little something for the grandkids and that's it other than a couple of cards. By mid December, I just want to get it over with. The stores move from one holiday to another so fast too. Hell, immediately following the "Boxing Week" specials, the Valentines Day crap goes out (phoniest holiday ever, imo). Than Easter, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Canada Day, Back-to-school and back to now with Thanksgiving/Halloween. Just a big cycle to make a buck. More power to them, not faulting the stores at all. Without profit, the doors close but I just don't get too excited or "into" it all.

I'm sorry this happened to you. There are a number of warnings, great information and people to talk to in order to stay safe. Please use everything at your disposal. This agency has taken a lot of people and it seems to be their main mode of operation.

I bumped the thread a few minutes ago so it could be visible again. I will also ask MOD to move his post and add it to the existing warning thread too (if it's even possible because of his post count and the fact that he is a new member).

You should consider this post for the Switch and bait section for HFX. But in my experience, any business that operates 24hours a day, 7 days a week, is one that I would be extra cautious of, and know that when they say " I have to go pay my driver" it is a scam. If they need cab fair or driver fee paid ( most agency drivers will wait till after the apt) even if a cab, why does the lady need 150.00? Would it not be like 20 or 30? Saying her name in a public forum may not be wisest thing to do. Did you call the agency back? The owners may not know that is happening.

Usually legit sps are always trying to send signals to the potential clients to show that they are not TGTBT. They do this in the quality of the ad, in not using graphic photos and hard to read symbols instead of real words in ad titles, in their rates, ensuring the rate is on par with other sps offering similar experiences, and so on. It is then up to the clients to learn to read the signs, and avoid the red flags. It will be no different in the future, trying to ensure that you are contacting a real sp and not a fake LE sting ad. That is pretty much the only way an incall client is going to get into any sort of trouble. But again, and posted elsewhere, you are all currently breaking the bawdy house law each and everytime you do an incall with an sp who provides incalls. Has anyone recently been arrested or victim of an LE set up and charged with this? OK, then expect the same kind of thing to happen with C36, in other words potentially absolutely nothing.

i'm just going to copy some things i've posted elsewhere. I've never posted any rates or services in any ads, I've always just made them phone me. I also will never provide any info in emails, i.e. nothing is available in writing to anyone. They do have to phone me for info, and to book appts. I find the whole email thing too anonymous, and while people can change or spoof their phone #s, the vast majority of clients are not doing that. Also, it is an obvious paper trail that they do not require a warrant to get. Recording phone conversations without a warrant, not so much, so there would be no written or recorded record of you telling people what you do. I mean what are the chances of that level of investigation into the clients of independent sps who do not work incalls out of hotel rooms, and are actually difficult to access, so their clients are equally difficult to access. Keep in mind, the sp is never ever doing anything wrong, whether it is asking for payment, or advertising a full menu of services. apparently. (Allowing people to use payphones is also helpful, since LE is not going to call you on an obvious payphone to ask about your info ) If an sp never posted rates/services, and never got into details on emails or texting or anything else, then she/he doesn't have to change anything that they currently do. If she/he always posted everything, and also got ticked off because guys call and ask questions, she/he is going to be at a bit of a disadvantage. Keep in mind most of our online advertising options are not based in Canada. We can continue to post whatever we want to post on those ads, or at least, within the limits and conditions set up by the advertising site. Reading ads will not get clients in trouble. Using the online contact and/or email options within those ads, that sets up the paper trail. I would advise sps to post phone #s, not to require email/contact from clients to get the phone #s. REquiring email contact is initiating that paper trail. Leaving it to phone calls does not, other than an untraced and unrecorded record that a call was made. proves absolutely nothing. For clients, use google extensively. When you see an ad by any sp on any site, google points from the ad in order to search the sp. You are looking for multiple ads on multiple sites. You are looking for history. You are looking for ads by that sp on that same site as well., What you do not want to see is one single ad on one single site. I am advising sps to ensure that on sites where they post multiple ads, that they ensure whatever box needs to be ticked to show all their ads they have on the site is ticked off. i'm suggesting to start telling guys who contact them to call them from a payphone. I'd go further and say go out and find out what the numbers are on the payphones and the locations so you can tell them where to go. Basically you aren't trying to avoid LE contact as an sp, you are trying to send the signals to potential clients that you are not LE. The more hoops you, as a client have to jump thru, the less likely you are contacting LE with a fake sp. LE in other words, is going to make it super easy to get all the info and the booking in one phone call. Legit sps are going to make you work for the appt, including making you call 3 times before you can knock on the door. Clients should also be looking for a website as well. Let's face it, what LE is not going to do: NOT going to create a website for their fake sp, NOT going to pay for multiple ads on one site, because they have to change up who that fake sp is. They are not going to post ads for sps over 25, or over ideal weight, or even ethnic ads. REsearch kind of shows that the most popular ads are for slender, busty, 20 year old blondes. LE is going to set up fake ads to fill that higher demand, and ensure the ads are attractive, and you know what that means. This buxom beauty does everything under the sun at 150/hr, 80 for the half. TGTBT takes on new meaning.

You are welcome peachy. For myself, I am no longer advertising any sexual services. Not because I am afraid for myself, but to protect my clients. I will also not answer any questions about my services. I will kindly explain to my inquiry that by asking me, they are on fact breaking the law. If they can't read between the lines then I can't really help them. I look at this legislation as a way of running my business the way I want to now. Clients will no longer calling the shots. I am in control now. I am relieved I no longer have to say yes I will do xxx for $xxx. Can clients really understand what it feels like to promise a service to someone I have never met before? I've never promised a service and not provided it. However, there are some that push and maybe their hygiene sucks. So no more advance promises. I will be using stories and songs to help those who want to understand the type of encounter they will experience. Currently, I am advertising as a hot mistress. No one sees a mistress as companionship alone. Sex is implied. Just not openly stated. Read between the lines. I'm still providing the same services. Just advertising it differently.

Has anyone seen Sky who started posting recently and is a member here sky2011 ? Here is the BP link http://kingston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-and-play-with-me-feel-you-soon-30/23528289 Any info on service, pics accurate, quality of location etc would be appreciated. You can PM me if you prefer. Thanks

That was my first choice too :) Second choice would be the beautiful Sharon Stone! BJ

Thanks for the clarification Dr.Sixpak.

I find this double life idea quite interesting and applcable to many other areas of life. When I used to travel on business through many continents, seeing "after hour activities" mainly married males and also the occasional female was pretty much the norm, alcohol, the great equalizer. I hobbied a bit while I was married but never as much as till I was separated / divorced. In general terms I view SP / hobbyist relationships much more honest and direct than what I saw on the business circuit with marketing staff, secretaries and government workers (to name but a few) get it on, but calling it something else - "partying, team building, hooting with the owls but up with the eagles", you get the drift. I love and respect the ladies, feel at home here on CERB and am quite comfortable in my skin. Thanks fellow CERBites!

A few close calls, one recently when my SO picked-up my laptop because hers had frozen and CERB page was still open... " So is this what you look at all day..?? I quickly reclaimed the laptop and close the tab.. " I have to keep myself entertained once in a while.. " as I laugh it off.. She didn't get the chance to look at it closely........ she doesn't say anything else and the rest of the day progresses as usual. With a certain degree of certainty, I believe she thought it was just another internet porn page, and not an actual site where I was actually signed-in.. I am beginning to think there maybe a slight "I dont want to know.." aspect to the SO...

Well I have to join those who say this is not a double life. I have been involved with SPs/MAs for many years in Canada and abroad ( some that will read this weren't born when I saw my first SP lol) and I am not ashamed of that. I might even add that I have develop some great friendships with some of the ladies I met. I actually had one SP over to visit my family last year. Sure never told them she was an sp but that's just so she could be judge for who she is not what she does to earn a living. I strongly believe in judging people by who they are not what they do. Unfortunately society in this part of the world is not there yet. Many would learn from travelling to Europe as we seem to be 30 years behind here. So although I don't talk to family about this part of my life, I cherish and am damn proud of the friendships I made over the years!!!