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(this was directed to post # 51, btw, written and posted after 52 showed up lol) well, in reality the risk when you always do incalls has always been exactly the same sort of risk as c36 is introducing. If you were found in a bawdy house, that's when charges can be laid, names can be named, etc. That has always been the case, and that in effect is no difference from being in the incall now or being found to be paying an sp in the future. What i have a hard time following is why people seem to think that the enforcement/investigation/charging is going to somehow magically be easier for the one thing when it has rarely if ever been done for the current laws. If you go to a massage parlour, you will be at risk, just the same as when LE currently decides to investigate and do surveillance on mps now, so will they do this in the future for C36. Will they be out there every day, will every day be high risk? of course not, in the past at best some mps have been singled out for a raid, and 2 or 3 clients found in the bawdy house. In the future, some mps will be singled out and a different set of 2 or 3 clients will be found in there, but the difference is, the sps will not be chargeable for being found in a bawdy house. Another similar thing will be that the mp owner will again be chargeable, for something under c36, instead of what they are currently charged with. The reason most long time sps say it will be pretty much business as usual, and/or that all we are going to do is return to the way we used to advertise, is because we went thru this prior to the internet influx of tell all ads, and we didn't discuss rates/services in conversations before because doing that simply confirmed that our incalls were bawdy houses. Now doing that will confirm that a client can receive sexual services, so if a client is observed leaving said location, it can be presumed that sexual services were paid for and received. Instead of a bawdy house charge said client gets charged with something else. Again, do they currently charge the clients leaving or in any sp incall? nope, so why is there this huge assumption that suddenly they are going to be able to find and charge clients leaving sp's incalls all over the country, when they haven't been doing that now. No one is coming up with extra $$.

I do understand this and in no way want you to continue outside of your comfort. But I can say, and even the Chief of police in many area's has stated that they simply do not have the funds to prosecute. The only funds they have is the " easy to catch" so in other words street level, forced, and trafficked. They can not risk the little money they have on an advertiser that is clearly stating " I do not sell sexual services" . To go after a client who enquired, or an advertiser for time, is far too much expense, therefore would be a waste of funds that could have been used for exploited and underage. The last thing that LE wants, is too go threw all of that to have a " case dismissed" from lack of supporting evidence. Also, keep in mind, every in call you visited hotel or home, has always been illegal, and they did not have the funds for that either. I have been investigated once ( and this was when illegal for in call! ), they looked around to see if I had drugs around, child in my home, to make sure I was in fact independent and not forced. Shook my hand and said " thank you Sophia, I am glad to see a proper business run around here" then left. I was happy for this, as now I know I am not on the radar for any further investigations. At the end of the day, they knew I was not a menace to my community, or in danger of any kind. They will move on to find the underage and trafficked. If you fish the ocean or a barrel of fish, and you have one chance to eat, will you choose the barrel? Yes, because that is a for sure win, not the other. As for your question email or PM? Well go ahead and enquire for the time donation, but as far as fine details, I am sure you will see more SP's asking you to voice call. There is no way that they can trace voice calls during or after. Do not enquire for sexual services plain and simple. Foe a new lady on the scene, don't even ask on voice call, wait till your behind closed doors and ask away. No entrapment is allowed in Canadian laws.

Cancellation and no shows are never ok by either the provider or hobbyist. If there was a final confirmation was done, and then she no showed, this is unfortunate. Sorry if this happened. However, I have a concern with your comments about deposits and information. Any REPUTABLE provider would never keep a deposit if she has to cancel. She stands to loose more by doing this. Because you had a bad experience, please do not tar every provider with the same brush. Many of us strive to maintain a reputation of integrity. I once had a client who transfered the entire fee. Shortly after, I had to cancel for reasons out of my control. I immediately refunded the money back. We eventually did get to meet and had a wonderful time together. If your encounter was with someone who has no reputation, then maybe you need to explore those that strive to maintain a stellar reputation. I certainly hope this is not an attempt to air dirty laundry. Sometimes things happen, and hope she was able to make this up to you.

"In Durham Region, officers interviewed 31 sex trade workers, with an average age of 26, and investigators believe nine were under some level of control. These 31 people represent the highest total for any police service during Operation Northern Spotlight II." I find that they BELIEVED 9 were under some level of control which means they can't actually prove it. What they don't factor in is the tendency for peope to default to the inaction of "it's easier to blame someone else for your actions than own it when challenged" if it's something they haven't reconciled within themselves... cat

Lets come back to this very thread 6 months from now and see how things have been enforced. I agree with Fortunateone's comments. What if there was a rare police raid and a client was found in a bawdy house with the way the laws are on the books right now? You would still be subjected by LE, etc, maybe your wife would find out, etc. Why is it okay now but suddenly not okay by Dec 19 or whenever the deadline is? It's only now that much awareness has been given by the media that has people worried because of getting a criminal record. I understand why...don't get me wrong but to think you are safe now isn't entirely correct either yet people are still out there discussing, asking and agreeing when it comes to certain services. People associated with this industry ( SPs and clients alike) have all been breaking the law for years!! Do you know how much time, effort and money it would take for them to enforce this new law? If I were employed in a position in law enforcement, I would be so dreading the moment when this bill becomes official law. If you still want to hobby, then stick with who and what you know. There are plenty of reputable and well established SPs here with evidence to prove they are legitimate. Don't stray into unknown territories and you will be fine. I understand the worry of not wanting to get a record however the fear mongering that is happening when it isn't even law yet, is getting tiresome to be quite honest. Worrying and speculating about this when things aren't even finalized isn't good for anyone. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing all the doomsday b.s. If a person thinks that's how it's going to be then that will be the outcome. The sky isn't going to fall. Certain changes will be implemented and business will carry on but a bit differently. Yes I admit I've worried and speculated but I'm not going to let it get me down. There are many changes that I've had to adjust to while in this business and I adjusted. To me, this is just another brief period of adjusting. In some ways, it will do me a favor. No longer will I have to read "Rates, menu, location available?" I never want to see those words again! Now they will HAVE to say "Hello" to me! If a person feels out of sorts and has hesitation then it's probably best not to stay in the game. And this sort of feeling can apply towards any type of decision in a person's life. Not just this issue. Stop worrying! There are always alternatives such as established SPs who know how to be discrete!

Will SP'S and clients find a way around this new law undoubtedly with this business continue...of course the problem is that the new law has just made it harder on everyone. For the most part the criminal risk will move from the SP to the client... in the past i had to worry about my wife discovering my hobby and think about the view society would have of me if it became know that i had been with an escort... in the future i will still have those things to worry about but i have to add the risk of criminal charges and the loss of my job if I am convicted. That is a significant increase in risk and will undoubtly cause' at best a short term negative impact on the market. Add to that the fact that most clients will never want to give their names to sp's and you have a huge increase in risk for SP's. Will i quit i don't think so.. will i be less likely to connect with someone new yes. Just my opinion

Sexy is all about manifesting. You think, therefore you are. Sexy is not having to prove a damn thing such as being sexy. lol. I am sexy.

I think this may have been mentioned before, but nothing turns me off more then when the guy can clearly tell I'm enjoying myself and stops to say "you should be paying me for this!" or when they're leaving, "I'm going to see you again, but I get a discount next time!". Well thanks for killing the mood, jeez :P Also, when they send a message at about 5 or 6 in the morning, and since I'm very much not awake at that time, by the time I'm up a few hours later I've received a bunch of "???", "hello?", "did I do something wrong?". Posted via Mobile Device

You will have to pass on his information...I need a good rub down!

Assuming we have no family or friends because of what we do for a living or that we're lonely ALL the time. It's how you choose to live your life and what you make of it. If you're going to be lonely and sad then that's what you're manifesting in life. If you want to be happy, then you're going to be happy. Your job is what you do and not who you are. This includes all human beings and not just SPs. This is sad that some people can think this. We eat, breathe, feel and love the same as our clients. Sometimes I wonder if some guys think we're not human. lol. Some people would be surprised how many SPs have regular lives outside of this business. However many SPs would think it's no one's business but their own which is true and only reveal the side that clients wish to see. Some things are better left unsaid. Including an SP's personal life. We are there to fulfill a fantasy that shouldn't be marred by the real world.

As many of you know, cancer continues to march along, treatments both here and Toronto have had a very small delaying effect and I should see the new year. However, I am grateful for: -being able to appreciate a really nice camel toe like the one on my young nurse from the last two weeks (I really wanted to drop something on the floor so I could get closer!!!! Just like in elementary school) -being able to appreciate her thong and tight uniform highlighting her C breasts and BIG nipples (how do I know they were a C, I asked, when you have cancer you can ask any stupid question! and she smiled when she answered!!!!) -the many of you who have offered support either publicly or thru pm, always appreciated and quite frankly sometimes very needed -the ability to laugh at myself when I do something stupid, like banging my head with the toilet seat last week when puking! I mean really, who does that and how stupid am I to grab onto the seat rather than the porcelain??!! -the ability to see humour, sometimes dark, like when on the way home from Toronto last Friday, pulled over to puke, standing in front of the car, bent over, OPP stops and comes up behind me, scares the shit out of me and I spray his boots as I turn around. OOPS! no harm no foul, just dirty boots. after giving me a lecture to not stand in front of the car, he started to laugh, and so did I -the ability to see the beauty, sexuality and sensuality of the many Ladies of CERB I have visited over the last couple of years, MP's and SP's alike. Many of whom I consider friends. And the many I have yet to visit, but speak to in the chat room, on private messages. Luv ya all! So not to be a downer, it is true that my tongue still works, my hands and fingers love massaging and my brain is ...... well I was never the sharpest knife in the drawer!!!! Have a good one folks. Enjoy ! And remember: get lots of SEX, it does the body good! The Liquor Tom

A sculpture in Paris It's inspired by the shape of a Christmas Tree, apparently. It's definitely not a 25-foot-high buttplug. Okay? Here's another one of his works...

Kimmie and I are in. In fact I have ordered the mistletoe already for the occasion!

We can only hope he does call an election

Further to Cat's point, I think they would also list any agency worker as someone they believe to be "controlled", so keep that in mind. Not everyone with an agent or a manager is coerced. I also love how the young people that legitimately are rescued through completely different operations are always lumped in with these pointless interviews. I'm sure it is done deliberately to try to make it look like these initiatives are more effective than they are. A short correction a few days later is better than nothing, but most people reading the story the first day will never see that. The police and/or media is clearly using a bit of propaganda there. It's frustrating.

I have rear parking and a rear entry, ( hey! Not that kind! lol) But often PPL will park down the street, then walk up to my front door! Like wha??? Your parking away for fears, but you come to my front door? LMAO. Not long ago, one Gent was on his way to airport, so naturally had a suitcase with him, instead of having the cab bring him straight to my driveway, he jumps out 3 houses down and is walking down the street ( residential area) with his suitcase and a suit and tie....OHHHHH DEAR!!! If he thought he was less obvious then he missed the mark on that one! I absolutely hate it when you park away, and walk up to my front door, or even up the driveway period. It looks so bad, especially when they look like they are sulking up the drive way in that paranoid way. It actually throws me for a loop and sort of ruins the excitement I had for that first moment of meeting:( Follow any instructions the lady gives you, we have this routine for a reason, cause it IS the best for you and her.

That reminds me of a response I had to a recent review I wrote of you Victoria. For the rest of you, the guy read my well-written review and proceeded to ask me who this woman was and a bunch of other nonsense. I thought my head would explode but I gathered myself and as politely as I could, explained to him that just a couple forums down was the advertising section for our particular area and all her info was right there as well as a link to her website. He posted back thanking me and then asked, "Lovely looking lady, what's her rates, menu?" Luckily, a fellow poster stepped in and set him straight. I may have been banned from the site if I had responded. Thank god for self control. As I read this thread from time to time, it seems that basic reading comprehension has to be at or near the top of the list because 99% of the things some guys do are clearly stated as "no-no's" on virtually every SPs ad and/or webpage. I seriously don't know how you ladies do it. Your patience is amazing. Kudos ladies because I think I might snap if asked some of the shit you get asked.

National ads aren't a red flag for SB's actually. They will relocate for the right SD and many SD's fly their SB's in for visits. Having some distance ensures things don't get messy... cat

I have a lovely older gentleman that needs help and I pick him up and take him home. I think there are quite a few ladies that live in more rural areas that know some clients very well and in the spirit of co operation we just help where help is needed. I totally understand that ladies in larger cities can't be trekking across town running taxi but here in my little area its easy to do . (When I am here ) :icon_smile:

Any discounts for returning customers? Why dont you just get a boyfriend with money and then you won't have to do this? What a piss off! Did it ever occur to people that I have chosen to do this and don't need to it? No one's business why I do. Why do some men think we need a man to take care of us? What? Because we cant stand on our own two feet? ive been taking care of myself since i was 19 years old. I dont need a man and frankly I don't want a bf right now. The last one was too much of a headache. I bet you say that to all the guys. Okay thanks for calling me a bullshitter. I'm not fake and as genuine as they come but I realize that it's more about themselves when they make that comment. Posted via Mobile Device

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OK so I have been a member on here for a long time, always reading up and adding my 2 cents here and there. However in the past month I have seen this sp I found in the Gatineau news paper LeDroit. she works with her friend under the name of Melissa and Naomi. First visit was the duo and man that was well worth it, second visit onwards has been solos with Melissa because I can't keep up with both. All I am going to say is I have always looked for a lady who can do everything really well from dom to sub to gfe to pse to massage, well pretty much everything and I found her, it might just be the personal connection, or it might just be that she is that much of a nympho, but she is the best I have had in 18 years. She has outfits, toys and everything you can think of. She will be joining CERB shortly, she will also be changing her location to a nicer one as soon as she saves up enough.

\ im not saying every provider....if you have a good rep clearly im not referring to you.Would it be better to name names?....lol...

Yes, it will become law, but the thinking and hoping is down to two things: how the courts will interpret the stupidly vague legislation, and LE's attitude to actually enforcing it. Neither of these is really knowable in advance. I don't see why. What's been criminalized is paying for sexual services, and that's not something that happens without payment. Just arranging a meeting? I don't see why that won't still be legal. As others have said, if you don't discuss particular services then nothing illegal has happened. How much of an impact this will have will vary between clients. The ones that are happy to meet someone they think they'll like and let the encounter evolve will be able to operate pretty much as they do now; the ones who are anxious to ensure that particular services are available are going to have a much harder time of it. As for sending emails or PMs now: any conversation you have now, or at any time before C36 becomes law, is just as legal as it was last week, or last month, or last year. The pre-Bedford laws are still in place for now. Nothing in C36 is retrospective, so it can't be used to prosecute anything anyone did before the day it becomes law. PM/email away! I actually think this is a very good idea: the more you can build a list of contacts and expectations and relations now, the better off you'll be later. Why would that change? A change in the law doesn't affect who the ladies are. They'll still be the same people. This is absolutely true. And I'd add: LE are answerable to the community in which they operate, and to some extent their priorities will reflect the concerns of that community. And most of the community doesn't know that the independent SP discreetly working in an apartment downtown, or the clients that see her, exist... and so LE gain little from taking action against her or her clients. The more visible sections of the industry - street workers and their clients in particular - are far more likely to be targeted. Although it should be noted that Alan Young, when testifying before the Senate last month, described C36 as "legalized entrapment". That one will go to the judges, I think. But it's fair to say that new entrants to the business will have a far harder time establishing themselves in a post-C36 world than they did beforehand, unless they can find a well-established provider to publicly vouch for them.

To which I have to add the acronyms "GGAJM" (which stands for Goddess, Goddess and Just Me) aka "TBTR" (which stands for Thorn Between Two Roses) Ah fond memories of a Very Special Night With Two Very Special Ladies And Friends RG

I have read through this thread in reasonably great detail, and I see a lot of, "I think that they won't....," and, "I hope that they don't ....," but underlying it all is the stark reality that barring the fall of the government in the next few days this will become law of the land. I understand the arguments made here for code words, and money for time, and as well, it seems as if the ladies are making arrangements to try to get around the advertising laws. What has not been brought up to this point is I believe, a very practical point. Assuming that ads in one form or another are still accessible to prospective clients, and assuming that police and courts will pretend that none of the code words actually refer to sexual services (which currently go undefined), there comes a point at which a client must communicate with a lady. At THAT point he becomes open to criminal charges, without even having to meet the lady or complete any financial transaction. Until a month ago I was as transparent as a client could be with an SP. My transparency has been truth that included name, phone number, email address, anything they wanted to know. However at this point I don't like those assumptions mentioned above. To get to the crux of the matter, the question is, how does one initiate a contact without incriminating oneself, while still assuming that the police are not total idiots? I have been mulling this whole thing over for a very long time, wondering what I would do when this becomes law. As it approaches reality I am looking at the very practical issues because I now think that I don't want to quit. I REFUSE to have the choice of celibacy dictated to me by a Canadian government of all things. I spent the last couple of days writing some emails to SP's, some of whom I have met and some of whom I have yet to meet, without sending a single one. My intention is to lay some groundwork, introduce myself, whatever. The question ultimately becomes how do I communicate both now and later and still feel protected. Should I send those emails or PM's now? I trust the women that I have met, utterly and completely. Is it simply the ability to continue to trust in others that I have to content myself with? I realize that this is rather disjointed and rambling, but the whole topic is composed of so many interlocking individual little parts. I'm looking for help here, maybe especially from SP's, but also from any of the many who are far smarter than I.

Hugging Cuddling

The Brass Rail is worth it. I like better than Zanzibar.

I saw Kelsey a few days ago. She does look very young but she has some serious skills. A very sexy spinner body. I would recommend seeing her while she is still in the Kingston area and I will see her again!

Gotta love "juicy".

To me, nothing is sexier than a nice shirt and tie on a man.... I use the term "tie" loosely here as I prefer to call it a "man-leash" thinking about having a woman pull you by it into the bedroom... is probably giving you a hard on as we speak! Not to mention how I could take all the rest of your clothes off, but leave the tie on so I can use it to get some extra hold while riding you :) **drool**

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a turn off when booking with a clients is when: a client asks to lower my rates. in the words of Jimmy Fallon's alter ego "sarah" it makes me feel "EW!"

stimulating !

I presume you're a gay male. I don't swing that way myself, so I can't provide any specific recommendations. However, there are several ads on CL placed by masseurs who service only male clients. These ads are under services > therapeutic and are mixed in with ads from masseuses and a few female full service providers posing as masseuses.

Please be conscious of how long it may take to be picked up, especially when at a private residence. While I won't have the alarm clock set, I will expect you to respect the time I have set aside for you! I can't very well ask you to stand on the stoop and ask you to wait for an extended period of time but I would expect that you contemplated your departure prior to the eleventh hour! Our time together is just that...our time together. If you wish to use some of that time awaiting a taxi, your choice. If you choose to wait til the last minute, and face a 30 plus minute wait, well, I should be compensated, no? I probably have plans!!!

Years ago, I tried to hide it. It got very tiring and difficult to keep my story straight. Then after one of my own family members tried to blackmail me with sending ads to my Mother, I paid this person the 1000.00 they asked and right after that I sat down with her and explained I was an adult entertainer and masseuse. I told her this, because if a blackmailer goes after you once and you pay up, rest assured they will do it again and again. I do not have the need to hide my career choice now, and I am so happy this way. Both my parents know, and they also see that I am successful and happy with my choice. I have shown them that their is a good side to this industry and they are proud of me for taking to the standards I have. My father who is elderly, depends on me in many different ways and without this job, I would not be able to be there for him in the same ways as I am now. I suppose you should ask yourself, How long do I plan to be in this? If just a short time, maybe you can hide it. But if after a year, you may decide that it really is hard to hide it. And GOD FORBID that someone wants to out you, they will not have the power. As for extended family, I am just a Masseuse, also I had been a dog groomer for many years, so as far as they know I still do groom, and also massage. Both are self employed type jobs. Out of respect, during holidays I shut my phone off. I do not discuss business with or around my family.

Imo, start replacing these acronyms with phrases such as: Greek - I will or will not travel to Greece Msog- I like to travel around the world once in a half hour or twice in an hour. DATY- I don't mind if you travel to the Netherland regions Guys you're going to have to start reading between the lines on these ones! lol. If a provider doesn't wish to discuss it in explicit terms this may be more of a creative way for them to tell you. At least then you will have an idea and not go into an appt completely blind. Technically none of the phrases I've listed above are nowhere near being sexually explicit. Anyone else have any of these phrases to add? Additional Comments: I know what you're saying. The most important thing tho is we cal all still be together. This is a community and lets not have them take us down. It will suck for sure ( no pun intended there!) but at least we haven't lost one thing and that is a sense of community.

Believe it or not, it can be nerve wracking for a stripper to walk up to a man, offer a dance only to get turned down. Especially if she sees other dancers approach a customer and being turned down. Perhaps that dancer thinks the first girl that was turned out is more attractive then her. I find that being away from the "pervert stage" as well as letting them approach you from behind helps. So, when picking a seat, try to pick one that is away from the center stage and that also allows the dancers to approach you from any direction (side, front, back). It also helps alot when you are in a high traffic area! lol my 2 cents

i'm just going to copy some things i've posted elsewhere. I've never posted any rates or services in any ads, I've always just made them phone me. I also will never provide any info in emails, i.e. nothing is available in writing to anyone. They do have to phone me for info, and to book appts. I find the whole email thing too anonymous, and while people can change or spoof their phone #s, the vast majority of clients are not doing that. Also, it is an obvious paper trail that they do not require a warrant to get. Recording phone conversations without a warrant, not so much, so there would be no written or recorded record of you telling people what you do. I mean what are the chances of that level of investigation into the clients of independent sps who do not work incalls out of hotel rooms, and are actually difficult to access, so their clients are equally difficult to access. Keep in mind, the sp is never ever doing anything wrong, whether it is asking for payment, or advertising a full menu of services. apparently. (Allowing people to use payphones is also helpful, since LE is not going to call you on an obvious payphone to ask about your info ) If an sp never posted rates/services, and never got into details on emails or texting or anything else, then she/he doesn't have to change anything that they currently do. If she/he always posted everything, and also got ticked off because guys call and ask questions, she/he is going to be at a bit of a disadvantage. Keep in mind most of our online advertising options are not based in Canada. We can continue to post whatever we want to post on those ads, or at least, within the limits and conditions set up by the advertising site. Reading ads will not get clients in trouble. Using the online contact and/or email options within those ads, that sets up the paper trail. I would advise sps to post phone #s, not to require email/contact from clients to get the phone #s. REquiring email contact is initiating that paper trail. Leaving it to phone calls does not, other than an untraced and unrecorded record that a call was made. proves absolutely nothing. For clients, use google extensively. When you see an ad by any sp on any site, google points from the ad in order to search the sp. You are looking for multiple ads on multiple sites. You are looking for history. You are looking for ads by that sp on that same site as well., What you do not want to see is one single ad on one single site. I am advising sps to ensure that on sites where they post multiple ads, that they ensure whatever box needs to be ticked to show all their ads they have on the site is ticked off. i'm suggesting to start telling guys who contact them to call them from a payphone. I'd go further and say go out and find out what the numbers are on the payphones and the locations so you can tell them where to go. Basically you aren't trying to avoid LE contact as an sp, you are trying to send the signals to potential clients that you are not LE. The more hoops you, as a client have to jump thru, the less likely you are contacting LE with a fake sp. LE in other words, is going to make it super easy to get all the info and the booking in one phone call. Legit sps are going to make you work for the appt, including making you call 3 times before you can knock on the door. Clients should also be looking for a website as well. Let's face it, what LE is not going to do: NOT going to create a website for their fake sp, NOT going to pay for multiple ads on one site, because they have to change up who that fake sp is. They are not going to post ads for sps over 25, or over ideal weight, or even ethnic ads. REsearch kind of shows that the most popular ads are for slender, busty, 20 year old blondes. LE is going to set up fake ads to fill that higher demand, and ensure the ads are attractive, and you know what that means. This buxom beauty does everything under the sun at 150/hr, 80 for the half. TGTBT takes on new meaning.

I can't wait. The ottawa socials are the bomb! Can't wait to see everyone. Kisses

Update: turns out the 12-year-old was not part of this, but was involved in an entirely separate police investigation. From this article:

As Gabriella mentioned earlier in a post we finally live one of your fantasies and another one will pop up, this is what has happened to me, I finally had the very pleasant privilege of meeting Miss Gabriella Laurence and Miss Carley Chase two very beautiful women inside and out, my new fantasy is to have these two ladies in my presence as a threesome for an extended visit, having the privilege of having these two ladies in the same room would definitely make some awesome Magicial moments.

After reading some of your remarks I would like to make a comment not sure if this the proper place hopefully it is OK, I figure this has being stated before and is definitely worth stating again as a hobbiest that tries very hard to make sure I go to your website, read everything to make sure I am doing everything correctly before and after contacting you we do appreciate the garbage and I mean garbage you have to deal with, anyone I had the privilege to visit here on Cerb has being nothing but awesome awesome, Thank you:)

I really hate to sound preachy or bitchy, but the biggest turn-off for me are clients who decline my offer for them to use my washroom to wash their hands. Or those who do, who only let the water run for a few seconds without using hot water or soap. Then later insist on digits. Sorry, not going to happen. The worst is when he replies, "no I don't need to, I just showered before coming here". Do you not realize that I am probably not interested in being fingered by hands after having touched everything en route (e.g. door handles, steering wheel, cell phone, and God knows what else). Perhaps I will start stocking latex gloves.

Not reading the profile, emails, blocked calls, texts, explict questions. Can't stress enough about reading the add or profile. Oh & the ones that try to negotiate your boundaries or for cheaper service. Very disrespectful smh...

I had met Autumn a little while ago and consider her a hidden gem in this city. She generally advertises over on BP a couple of times a week, so after texting back and forth with a few times I decided to meet up with her and glad I did. She's a very attractive young woman with a great attitude, warm smile and one outstandingly sexy body! We start off with some dfk and then the clothes fly off! Autumn has beautiful boobs. They're not huge, but the perfect size for her 5'5 frame and very responsive little nipples...great to suck on! She's not a spinner, but has a great body and was loads of fun exploring every inch of her. I had a great time playing with her, she was easy to talk to and very open minded.