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CERB isn't just a board, it's a community CERB isn't a boy's club, Ladies can come here and they feel safe. Here, we, ladies and gents alike are all opposite sides of the same coin, not us versus them RG

If you are in compliance with the lady's requirements and do not overstep boundaries (asking too many personal questions, sharing too many personal stories with her where she might not feel comfortable, insisting on off-the-clock extended conversing/texting or email, trying to stay over-time or enticing her to stay over time or meet off the clock for free, etc.) there is no reason why you should feel you are taking advantage of her. If you are getting a certain level of intimacy and other stimulation met through the time you spend with an SP without any unrealistic expectations, then I'd say you have a good arrangement. If you feel you are not totally satisfied and crave more, then you might be putting unrealistic expectations on the client/SP relationship. I understand some men do not want to pursue a dating relationship because for whatever reason they don't want the commitment that goes along with it. But you can't expect an SP no matter how gracious she is or how well you connect and get along with her, to give you access to her personal life, or her heart so to speak. Just because we are being paid does not mean we are there just for the money, but I would never want a client to think or expect it may develop into anything more. In some instances, a client and SP may click in the romance department and end up together as a couple, but it's not realistic for a client to see SPs hoping that will happen for him. I am not suggesting that is what you are doing, I'm just putting it out there, that if you think you are taking advantage of someone, ask yourself what you are doing that is perhaps making you feel guilty. I suggest you do a self-check, and if necessary, ask a provider you have been with who you trust who has the maturity to be honest and ask them if there is anything they have observed in your approach or behaviour that might be off putting. Little things that might not seem like such a big deal can something make others feel uncomfortable. Doesn't mean it can't be corrected.

MASSIVE difference. I have use all of them because I tour the country from time to time. Cerb is really friendly and SP are really accepted. But it is a recommendation not a review board which could make a difference Terb: Brutal as hell. I have to use it because I am base in Toronto and that's where I get the most of my business. People are mean like no tomorrow Merb: Not as bad as terb, but a lot of cheap people. Bitching in French and English. Perb: friendliest of the t/m/p board. Caerf: the most friendly board out there, not as active as terb, but guys seriously thanks each other for the reviews and community seem good. Business wise it doesn't seem to give me a lot of hit on my website, but heck it's free for indy SP to advertise hope this help!

Well, to be blunt, they are there because of the exchange that you do. But then, so are you. You wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the exchange, in other words this is a mutually beneficial arrangement. There is nothing wrong with mutually beneficial arrangements between consenting adults. Most sps do this because they are people who are able to be morally open minded. They wouldn't last long if they are judgmental, or if they were self judgmental for their choices. Many clients are also morally openminded, and non judgmental. It is possible to share time with people that are friendly, fun and seemingly intimate, but are really only sharing conversation in a nonthreatening environment. This is a good thing, and will benefit you in your everyday life. Take and enjoy the experiences, and the sharing, and don't try to put a label on it. I assure you that the majority of sps do not feel taken advantage of in these mutually beneficial arrangements, they will only feel that way if something changes in the agreed upon exchange.

Oh my goodness, the difference is huge. I tried with merb because I'm in Montreal but the hostility is palpable- between the men and the ladies, and between the men themselves. I never felt like a human being on there. It is very graphic and cold. Cerb is simply this: warmth in my heart. It is so lovely and encouraging and we treat each other with humanity and respect. I have to say that the men on cerb are some of the best men I've ever met, even outside the business. These are men I wish existed more in the real world :) Yay cerb! Thank you for bringing heart, happiness and fun to this industry.

I don't have a lot of experience with the other sites, but it seems to me that the main difference is that cerb is a recommendation board, not a review board. Negative comments are not welcome here. This makes for an environment that is much more welcoming to the sps themselves. Keeping the bashing away means we can have more open and meaningful discussions. Nobody wants to hang around in a crowd where there is constant bickering, or where they are getting bad mouthed by someone with an axe to grind. Just my thoughts on the subject.

I participate in 3 of them - Merb, Terb and Cerb. Of the three, I hardly visit Merb. I find that Terb is more liberal in that reviews are accepted either positive or negative. Sometimes, opinions of some terbites are aggressive and can really turn some people off. Luckily, these aggressive posts including such things as personal attacks, name callings, and accusation against the mods or the site could be removed by reporting them to the Mods. I find that cerb is better managed and the atmosphere is friendlier. It is a recommendation board and not a review board like Terb. I enjoy the discussions and community spirit here. It is more SP-friendly and you tend to see more advertisments here. Advertising is free of charge too.

I've looked at the other erb sites and will not participate on them. Too much fighting Imo. I love cerb because it's a place where providers and hobbyists can interact in a civilized and adult fashion. I have friends on this site.

Well said Angela! Took the words out of my mouth:) I can also reiterate, that perhaps you are asking too many questions of a personal nature with her? I too, get very uncomfortable with that, and it could cause a small wedge between us. Keep conversation fun and lively, with humor and yes some serious chats is intriguing as well. But if you begin to dive into her personal relationship questions, such as " well doesn't he mind that you do this? Or " how to hide it from your kids?" well it would defiantly a loss of romance and adventure for the lady. One element many men miss, is that most ladies, when preparing for our date we switch into out alter ego. Much like an actor would. I call it " Sophiafied" lol...So by getting into deep personal questions, I loose my alter ego and get into my "me" mode and then I find it difficult to jump back into the sexy, seductive creature that I created for "Sophia" It is not a lie of who we are, but a more pronounced version of our sexy side. Another aspect to be an escort, is that for the most part we are givers by nature. This means, we much rather you spill your stress and worries on us if you need to talk about things in your life that are upsetting for you. Often lending an ear and shoulder if needed. I have had many of my dear clients unload their worries on me. Some heartbroken and shed a tear. But as a professional, I would never do this to a client. Never would I unload my inner most vulnerabilities. Because, we are here for YOU, you are the center of our attention and focus during our time together. So why do we all that? Well for my ownself, I truly love my work, and although "Sophia" is an alter ego, she is still another version of who the real me is. So in staying true to my real self being a giver it is not just a façade. I have a friend, the poor guy is so sweet and nice but always becomes the "friend or just like a brother" from most ladies he meets. But you see, when he meets ladies he wants to dive into their ways of thinking. Becoming like a confidant to them, helping them threw issues.....then before you know it, he missed the mark on when to make the move on them, and now is viewed" oh your just like a brother to me". So as you can see it also can happen in the "real world" too. But in our professional mutually beneficial escort relations, it can happen much more quickly to loose that moment. And that's when you begin to feel like your being "used" or vis versa. There certainly times, even with a good provider that chemistry just doesn't seem to be there. Not much can be done about that but try to enjoy the time and move on. And certainly there are providers that will make you feel like just a wallet rather then a man, that is a live and learn scenario. Maybe think of it this way, when you book time with a lady, think of it as your "man's spa day". It is just a retreat for you to treat yourself. Nothing more then a way to relax and have that human contact.

I've seen other hobbyists make reference to sps telling authorities who their clients are and really don't understand where this is coming from. Where is the logic of this? She makes no money from this, looses her clients and can't make new clients. Why would she do this? I sure as hell would never "help" the authorities get prosecutions under this law.

just wanted to mention that i try to please and sometimes im trimmed and sometimes bald, i always take requests :) thank you for the reference

I'm going to give you all a bit of advice, been a long time member, but not an active poster. I've been seeing a lot of panic about this topic and because my other business is internet related (not in this industry) I do know a lot about internet law and how it applies to governing laws and having worked in the porn industry for numerous years, I know ways to circumvent issues of these sorts. First of all, the general police do not have access to review boards or those that contain adult/explicit content. I can not speak for that being true for EVERY police department, but I do know it's certainly true for vpd, so you may want to find out if your locale has access or not. I don't know if RCMP still does or not, because of them being busted with CP (will not post those words in full on the board) You do not need to shut down your web sites, they just need to be moved over to offshore web hosting and this board should be moved to offshore hosting. ie: http://shinjiru.com/ is a reliable host. The police have ZERO jurisdiction with an offshore host. This board should also have a head office offshore, backpage did that in case everyone hasn't noticed, so now they can't be touched by Canadian or American laws, because of backlash when some media outlets and celebrities were complaining about them having escort advertising. Easy to do, bit costly at first, but a good lawyer can help you set that up. I'd personally change the name of the board now, set up the new name as a redirect to this name until the new laws take effect. Then switch it over to the new name completely. As for we the sp's, when you think about it logically, police departments do not have the manpower to go around busting every single sp in this industry and furthermore when you think about it logically, their main targets of interest are going to be agencies, micro's and brothels with gang ties. Any place where they deem that there may be human trafficking ie: asian massage parlours, micros etc. There are literally thousands of those places across Canada, they will be busy for a VERY long time, years in fact attempting to clean that up. So my suggestion to the pooners that currently partake in those, get your fixes in now, because the abolishment agencies have made it quite clear that they want those shut down as a priority. Their next targets will be regular agencies ("pimps", if you will) possible minors and new/young ladies, anyone they feel that they can "rescue." Police aren't stupid and having had personal dealings with them, they know established sp's that have been in the industry for a long time aren't going to budge. I work in Alberta and we have some of the strictest bylaws in the industry and I've never had a problem with police, they just ask general questions (and yes they have come to my incall) and that's about it. When they've left, all they've said was, take care of yourself, be safe, type of thing. They've never asked me anything about clients, to see my phone, laptop whatever. Total of 4 dealings with them in over 20 years, they've got better things to do. What clients need to do in order to protect themselves, are not to take risks with unestablished ladies and they need to google numbers that they see in ads. Web sites are not used by vice, that was not even brought up as a means to bust "john's" and there's some type of provision in our laws that prevents them from doing so. Reviews are not used by vice either to entrap clients. So if a lady has a web site, you can find some history on her in google and she has reviews, chances are, you'll be pretty safe seeing her. I'm not changing anything on my site at all, I'm not taking down my rates or services, I'm just moving my site offshore and good luck to them trying to get rid of my site. I'm not a primary target for them to begin with, so I'm not worried about any of it in the least.

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=196668&highlight=kelsey I had seen Kelsey's ads on BP for a while and also read a few reviews - some favourable and some neutral so I contacted her on cerb (Starbright). We exchanged a number of messages and I asked her to send some real pics which she did. The pics she sent were more than enough for me to want to follow up with some personal experience. Definitely a tiny little spinner! Five feet nothing and no more than a 100 lbs. Dirty blond hair, perky little tits, very slim and tiny and a cute face. She looks young but is of legal age. After seeing her pics, we exchanged texts and lined up a visit with this little minx. Hotel location was ok and easy to get to. Entering her room, I was greeted by this little spinner dressed in stockings and lingerie that I had requested - wow I was ready! We started with some LFK and moved onto DFK. She quickly got down to just her stockings and me down down to nothing over some very easy and pleasant conversation and kissing. She immediately went down and got personal with my cock and oh how she can suck - deep throat and this little thing she does on the head in her mouth - absolutely yummy! After enjoying her skills, I dove on into partake of dinner at the Y until her nectar was running and that very little flower had opened. She really seemed to enjoy the fingering and tongue combination. Did I mention she is tiny and tight? Back and forth with DATO in doggy with some accompanying bbbj and I was ready. Dressed him up, lubed up that tiny little ass and began to fuck that tight little butthole while she rubbed her pussy and moaned and writhed with what seemed pure desire. I pounded that little butt while she pushed back and then switched to CG to see how well she could ride him in greek. She can ride! After a while I flipped her over onto her stomach and continued with the greek experience until I popped in the cover in that tight little ass. We lay there for a moment and then she began a massage sitting on my my legs while I was face down. Kelsey did loosen up my back and relaxed my body completely - she has strong hands and it was a great massage. Then she whispered in my ear that it was time to continue. I rolled over and she went to work with Mr. J again while I rubbed her pussy and clit which was wet. As soon as he was up and ready, she covered him up and moved to the edge of the bed in doggy, looked back over her shouler and asked me to fuck her pussy. I slipped into that wonderful, tight pussy while looking down on her back and that wonderful spinner ass. I pounded that little box while she pushed back and looked back with those eyes until she gasped and I exploded at the same time. Wow - she is great! Kelsey never watched the clock and never asked to hurry things along. The hour was perfect and she delivered! I'm going to repeat many times with her. Kelsey is really the typical GND and classic spinner. Tight, young body with a youthful innocence and she is enthusiastic and genuinely enjoys what she is doing! Tristan :bddog:

You would be surprised at how rude some guys are with them sometimes or how little they care...

I'm so glad to hear this! This sounds like a fun time. Let me talk with the girls and let them know about this, I'm sure they'll be excited to attend.

Cerb......fun friendly great place for information on all sorts of ladies and topics. Terb......very often a sandbox with people throwing sand at eachother, but still some good information Merb... Mostly montreal stuff Posted via Mobile Device

Sorry if this has been posted already, I did a quick scan and didn't see it. Police released the suspects image as they believe there may be other victims out there. Ladies please take a look. http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/arrest-made-in-death-of-sex-trade-worker-1.2056524

I'm a perpetual loner so I do not have issues with emotional intimacy, that and I have a really short attention span lol, so I can't offer any advice regarding that. But get over the idea that you are 'using' the provider. In any mutually beneficial arrangement, whether it be a SP encounter (with her in full control of her affairs) or a real world business deal, each side uses the other. As far as I'm concerned it's a "win-win" situation and the word 'use' really doesn't apply. Now if a lady has been forcibly coerced into this world and is being abused and exploited by a pimp or human traffickers, then yes, in that case you are using her, but in the CERB world I think such situations are few and far in between.

I'm having coffee in my greenhouse as I watched the sunrise this morning. Its happening later and later each day for sure. Making my daily "to do" list and planning to enjoy my family company that is here for the weekend.

Yes, it will become law, but the thinking and hoping is down to two things: how the courts will interpret the stupidly vague legislation, and LE's attitude to actually enforcing it. Neither of these is really knowable in advance. I don't see why. What's been criminalized is paying for sexual services, and that's not something that happens without payment. Just arranging a meeting? I don't see why that won't still be legal. As others have said, if you don't discuss particular services then nothing illegal has happened. How much of an impact this will have will vary between clients. The ones that are happy to meet someone they think they'll like and let the encounter evolve will be able to operate pretty much as they do now; the ones who are anxious to ensure that particular services are available are going to have a much harder time of it. As for sending emails or PMs now: any conversation you have now, or at any time before C36 becomes law, is just as legal as it was last week, or last month, or last year. The pre-Bedford laws are still in place for now. Nothing in C36 is retrospective, so it can't be used to prosecute anything anyone did before the day it becomes law. PM/email away! I actually think this is a very good idea: the more you can build a list of contacts and expectations and relations now, the better off you'll be later. Why would that change? A change in the law doesn't affect who the ladies are. They'll still be the same people. This is absolutely true. And I'd add: LE are answerable to the community in which they operate, and to some extent their priorities will reflect the concerns of that community. And most of the community doesn't know that the independent SP discreetly working in an apartment downtown, or the clients that see her, exist... and so LE gain little from taking action against her or her clients. The more visible sections of the industry - street workers and their clients in particular - are far more likely to be targeted. Although it should be noted that Alan Young, when testifying before the Senate last month, described C36 as "legalized entrapment". That one will go to the judges, I think. But it's fair to say that new entrants to the business will have a far harder time establishing themselves in a post-C36 world than they did beforehand, unless they can find a well-established provider to publicly vouch for them.

Lets come back to this very thread 6 months from now and see how things have been enforced. I agree with Fortunateone's comments. What if there was a rare police raid and a client was found in a bawdy house with the way the laws are on the books right now? You would still be subjected by LE, etc, maybe your wife would find out, etc. Why is it okay now but suddenly not okay by Dec 19 or whenever the deadline is? It's only now that much awareness has been given by the media that has people worried because of getting a criminal record. I understand why...don't get me wrong but to think you are safe now isn't entirely correct either yet people are still out there discussing, asking and agreeing when it comes to certain services. People associated with this industry ( SPs and clients alike) have all been breaking the law for years!! Do you know how much time, effort and money it would take for them to enforce this new law? If I were employed in a position in law enforcement, I would be so dreading the moment when this bill becomes official law. If you still want to hobby, then stick with who and what you know. There are plenty of reputable and well established SPs here with evidence to prove they are legitimate. Don't stray into unknown territories and you will be fine. I understand the worry of not wanting to get a record however the fear mongering that is happening when it isn't even law yet, is getting tiresome to be quite honest. Worrying and speculating about this when things aren't even finalized isn't good for anyone. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing all the doomsday b.s. If a person thinks that's how it's going to be then that will be the outcome. The sky isn't going to fall. Certain changes will be implemented and business will carry on but a bit differently. Yes I admit I've worried and speculated but I'm not going to let it get me down. There are many changes that I've had to adjust to while in this business and I adjusted. To me, this is just another brief period of adjusting. In some ways, it will do me a favor. No longer will I have to read "Rates, menu, location available?" I never want to see those words again! Now they will HAVE to say "Hello" to me! If a person feels out of sorts and has hesitation then it's probably best not to stay in the game. And this sort of feeling can apply towards any type of decision in a person's life. Not just this issue. Stop worrying! There are always alternatives such as established SPs who know how to be discrete!

Kimmie and I are in. In fact I have ordered the mistletoe already for the occasion!

Cancellation and no shows are never ok by either the provider or hobbyist. If there was a final confirmation was done, and then she no showed, this is unfortunate. Sorry if this happened. However, I have a concern with your comments about deposits and information. Any REPUTABLE provider would never keep a deposit if she has to cancel. She stands to loose more by doing this. Because you had a bad experience, please do not tar every provider with the same brush. Many of us strive to maintain a reputation of integrity. I once had a client who transfered the entire fee. Shortly after, I had to cancel for reasons out of my control. I immediately refunded the money back. We eventually did get to meet and had a wonderful time together. If your encounter was with someone who has no reputation, then maybe you need to explore those that strive to maintain a stellar reputation. I certainly hope this is not an attempt to air dirty laundry. Sometimes things happen, and hope she was able to make this up to you.

I don't understand this post. There's MULTIPLE threads on how this agency is nothing but a scam (or worse). Here's a 3 page post to go along with the link Gabrielle provided: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146788. I'm pretty sure there's more, if you want to go even older. Why would you think they "cleaned up their act"? Why would anyone who has done even a small amount of research ever even think of using this agency? You even said you read earlier reviews... It just doesn't make any sense to me, like, what is your thought process on this one? I think most of the photos are stolen anyway.

Just wanted to say that after being on Cerb for 4 years and meeting many SP's and MA's over the years that I have learnt a lot about the women who have chosen the is path as a career. Most of them have chosen this career because they enjoy the independence and financial freedom that it can bring. But this job is not easier. Many of them have families or kids to support. University educations that they are trying to complete. This job is demanding as it involves many hours of marketing, emailing, posting ad's answering text and PM's. Trying to get hotel, schedule appointments. The women who are most successful at this job are the one's that truly enjoy their work and like to please their clients. I've met many of these women and have truly enjoyed my time with them time and again. This can be a stressful time as they need the time to prepare the room and prepare themselves for each encounter. Some day's it can busy and other day's not. Some day's they meet some really fun gentlemen and other days, maybe some creeps. Some have been robbed, or beaten up or cheated. Sometimes there no shows or other girls that make fake appointments. This is a hard job. Sometimes it is physically demanding. They give their most intimate moments. It takes a certain kind of woman to handle the emotions and sexual activities that this job may entail. One SP, told me that it's not the physical aspect that is tiring. But the emotional aspect. To be able to pretend to enjoy themselves when they are not. She was saying that in this job she had to be the giver all the time and that most of the men were takers. Her Job was to give them pleasure and most men just used her to get as much pleasure for themselves. These women deserve more, they deserve to be treated kindly and with respect. Respect their time and their contact protocol. Be a gentlemen and be clean. Do not try to negotiate their rates, or push them for more then they are willing to offer. Give them a massage to start, make it about them in the beginning. They may have had a hard day, and appreciated a little kindness and tenderness and relaxation. Talk to them, they are people also, not just objects of your lust. Treat them well and with respect and kindness. I've been told by them, that it doesn't matter how old or what you look like. As long as you are a gentlemen and clean, you will be treated well. Remember, that they are there to make you happy and are providing a very intimate service, so you should appreciate they company they provide. If the chemistry and connection are there, you will have a great time. If the connection is real, it pays to return for repeat sessions. I have repeated many times with many of the women, and have found that each session get's better and better, as you get to know each other and are more relaxed with each other. I have had several good friendships developed over the years and have maintained them. Just wanted to say this to thank you to the women of Cerb for the fun and kindness that they have given us men over the years. I hope to meet many more of you over the next few years if I can :) Remember guys. Be a gentleman, be clean and respectful and you shall be rewarded. Oh yeah, one more thing. The woman should always cum first :)

So I had the wonderful pleasure of spending an hour with Ms. Mia Adore today (I wish it had been longer than only an hour). Mia is everything she describes herself to be in her profile and website - sensual, attentive, sexy, funny, relaxed, non-rushed etc. (but I found her to be so much more as well - almost hard to explain). Her pictures are 100% accurate, but really I felt she looked better in person. She is wonderfully European in both her voice and how she treated me even though she is as Canadian as I am and has been here for a long time. She was a true European Courtesan in every sense of the word in my opinion. She was very easy to make an intimate connection with. She was very easy to book our time with and I suggest you check her website as booking procedures, rates etc. are all very well explained there. She has a great body, excellent skills, a lovely personality and offers an affordable experience. I look forward to enjoying her special touch again very soon. Truly a wonderful find on a rainy K-town October day.

Hi Everyone. . Just wanted to wish you all the best, unfortunately some life event has changed dramatically my life and I have decided to retire I full from the massage (adult) industry. I wanted to say thank you to those who were there for me this past years... those who became my friends, anyone who supported me in many ways Love to all and may happiness be with you! Vitto

I wanted to write a post to discuss what the differences both clients and providers find with these forums. As someone who mostly has used TERB and I am relatively new to CERB, I cannot help but see that users of this site are far more active than those of TERB, and the general discussions are far more engaging. TERB has also removed their chat room, but when I did use it, it was pretty much like TER where not many people were in there and not many people chatting at all. However, the chat room on this site is quite active and enjoyable. I have not really used Perb or Merb yet, but I wanted to see what everyone else thinks of all of these sites and what differences you notice as either a client or provider.

Sometimes maybe we don't mention it but what would you find more discreet? Parking in a driveway or visitor parking or parking down the street and walking up to a house/apartment? If you park in a designated area, it looks like you belong! It looks like you are visiting and if (and I mean IF) someone approached you (highly unlikely) you could say you are visiting a friend. In my opinion, you are more likely to stand out and risk such questions if you are acting suspicious, which odd parking habits illicit! Think!!!

Since you said your experience was in Pennsylvania, the situation might have been different over there, as prostitution is totally illegal over there. So the girls are in a bit more of a wary attitude over there than here. So any sort of public communication might be a no-no, just communicate when she gets to your hotel room and that's it. I would just suggest that you try one of the ladies in town instead. And as the ladies have suggested here, they are a bit more open to communications here in town than they would've been in PA.

I'm a member on perb, terb, merb, cerb and caerf. Caerf is definitely the friendliest review board out of them all. I haven't participated much here other than to post articles on C-36 but I enjoy the friendly atmosphere here too. When I was still working as a SP in BC, perb was the best place to advertise. One positive benefit from dealing with C-36 is that perb/terb/merb are communicating and sharing info between boards instead of operating as totally separate entities.

A nice addition to this site may be an "industry reference" system. Whereas, if an established provider, trusted with reputation could verify a new lady. They would have to had met face to face, perhaps work together at least once. Then vouch for her, that she is working legally and safely.

Not exactly clear about what you are asking so I'll cover off some points. If you give a lady a deposit, and then you don't show or comply with her cancellation policy, then you should not expect a refund. If you give a lady a deposit, and then she does not show or has to cancel the appointment, she should either offer to make it up to you for another time, and if it's not possible, refund you the money. If she no shows and does not have the courtesy to contact you to correct the situation you could post in the warnings section since you have been a member for awhile, but best to run it past mod first. Most ladies I know who require deposits are travelling ladies who depend on a certain amount of bookings to make visiting a certain city worthwhile. Others may require deposits or pre-payment for other reasons (special requests, client cancelled before with short notice, etc.) If you don't give a lady a deposit, and she cancels for whatever reason, she is under no obligation to give you any kind of compensation. She has the right to cancel. If it's literally last minute that she bails, or for some reason she is unreachable and kept client waiting etc., most reputable ladies will offer to make it up to the client in some way (e.g. discount, extra time, whatever) on a future visit. I once had to turn a client away who was 3 minutes away because my dishwasher at the time was old and started to flood because the drain thingy had something stuck in it. Then there are the scams where they want you send them a deposit to verify you're over 18 or not a cop or some nonsense like that. Bottom line though is, never send a deposit to a lady who has not established herself as being reputable. And in answer to your question, this is not the place to name names.

I'm pretty sure if I tried that scenario I'd find myself making a rather quick and miraculous recovery! After all, there's been a lot of scams and snake oils throughout history that claim to cure everything, but in my experience nothing can make ya feel better regardless of what ails you quite like boobies! :)

I'm really sorry you had to go through this Hfxguy, no one lady or gentleman deserves to taken from. Ugg. I would agree with Sophia and say while I am ultra reliable, outside and uncontrollable issues can arise causing difficulties and lateness. However if this were to happen any person should strive to make things right as soon as humanly possible. In your case this does not seem to be happening and again so sorry this happened. Indeed we are not one brush or canvass so everyone needs to be careful.

I've been saying this from the get go. No extra money has gone to police for enforcement of C36. And the police aren't parked at Timmies right now having a donut just chomping at the bit waiting to enforce it. This isn't even a police driven legislation. This is a MacKay bill in response to the SCC decision on Bedford. But to the police, this is just a new law used to enforce prostitution offences...it's not some ideological/philosophical /quasi religious calling for them as it appears to be for MacKay, Joy Smith and others Some simple common sense solutions, no discussion of sex for money, ladies, call yourselves escorts, not prostitutes. Guys, don't look for a menu of services, nor ask, and ladies, don't advertise one We all know what's going on with C36. The ladies and gentlemen who can adapt will still carry on in this lifestyle. Those that don't adapt, they're the ones who may be the first C36 casualties A rambling RG

(this was directed to post # 51, btw, written and posted after 52 showed up lol) well, in reality the risk when you always do incalls has always been exactly the same sort of risk as c36 is introducing. If you were found in a bawdy house, that's when charges can be laid, names can be named, etc. That has always been the case, and that in effect is no difference from being in the incall now or being found to be paying an sp in the future. What i have a hard time following is why people seem to think that the enforcement/investigation/charging is going to somehow magically be easier for the one thing when it has rarely if ever been done for the current laws. If you go to a massage parlour, you will be at risk, just the same as when LE currently decides to investigate and do surveillance on mps now, so will they do this in the future for C36. Will they be out there every day, will every day be high risk? of course not, in the past at best some mps have been singled out for a raid, and 2 or 3 clients found in the bawdy house. In the future, some mps will be singled out and a different set of 2 or 3 clients will be found in there, but the difference is, the sps will not be chargeable for being found in a bawdy house. Another similar thing will be that the mp owner will again be chargeable, for something under c36, instead of what they are currently charged with. The reason most long time sps say it will be pretty much business as usual, and/or that all we are going to do is return to the way we used to advertise, is because we went thru this prior to the internet influx of tell all ads, and we didn't discuss rates/services in conversations before because doing that simply confirmed that our incalls were bawdy houses. Now doing that will confirm that a client can receive sexual services, so if a client is observed leaving said location, it can be presumed that sexual services were paid for and received. Instead of a bawdy house charge said client gets charged with something else. Again, do they currently charge the clients leaving or in any sp incall? nope, so why is there this huge assumption that suddenly they are going to be able to find and charge clients leaving sp's incalls all over the country, when they haven't been doing that now. No one is coming up with extra $$.

I think this may have been mentioned before, but nothing turns me off more then when the guy can clearly tell I'm enjoying myself and stops to say "you should be paying me for this!" or when they're leaving, "I'm going to see you again, but I get a discount next time!". Well thanks for killing the mood, jeez :P Also, when they send a message at about 5 or 6 in the morning, and since I'm very much not awake at that time, by the time I'm up a few hours later I've received a bunch of "???", "hello?", "did I do something wrong?". Posted via Mobile Device

Ya know what, Liquor. You really open my eyes when I read your post. Every time I think I've had a bad day, I just read this and wake up to the fact that I'm pretty lucky. Love your outlook and sense of humor and wish you all the best.

As many of you know, cancer continues to march along, treatments both here and Toronto have had a very small delaying effect and I should see the new year. However, I am grateful for: -being able to appreciate a really nice camel toe like the one on my young nurse from the last two weeks (I really wanted to drop something on the floor so I could get closer!!!! Just like in elementary school) -being able to appreciate her thong and tight uniform highlighting her C breasts and BIG nipples (how do I know they were a C, I asked, when you have cancer you can ask any stupid question! and she smiled when she answered!!!!) -the many of you who have offered support either publicly or thru pm, always appreciated and quite frankly sometimes very needed -the ability to laugh at myself when I do something stupid, like banging my head with the toilet seat last week when puking! I mean really, who does that and how stupid am I to grab onto the seat rather than the porcelain??!! -the ability to see humour, sometimes dark, like when on the way home from Toronto last Friday, pulled over to puke, standing in front of the car, bent over, OPP stops and comes up behind me, scares the shit out of me and I spray his boots as I turn around. OOPS! no harm no foul, just dirty boots. after giving me a lecture to not stand in front of the car, he started to laugh, and so did I -the ability to see the beauty, sexuality and sensuality of the many Ladies of CERB I have visited over the last couple of years, MP's and SP's alike. Many of whom I consider friends. And the many I have yet to visit, but speak to in the chat room, on private messages. Luv ya all! So not to be a downer, it is true that my tongue still works, my hands and fingers love massaging and my brain is ...... well I was never the sharpest knife in the drawer!!!! Have a good one folks. Enjoy ! And remember: get lots of SEX, it does the body good! The Liquor Tom

It's been a while since my last post, so i will mention these 4 that i seen in the past 3 weeks, except Vicki who i just seen this week. BROOKELLE: i seen this one during an out call, and it was quite short notice i was just lucky enough she was in the area near my hotel. She probably looks better all dolled up just like in her photos but because i didn't have much time, she just came over from the mall. She is shorter than i had expected, when i first met her, the rates she has posted recently did not match when i seen her, so i guess i was lucky. YMMV-although i guess she is open minded to other stuff that i don't practice, i didn't care to dive into those menu items. I just booked for HH. SADICA: Now her ad pops up here and there, i didn't see her ad this week or last, but it has been up the last 3 weeks for a while, so i decided to jump in! her in call was at a hotel near the airport, clean shaven, ymmv, i booked for HH, but it went close to an hour, i would totally repeat, but it seems her hours are earlier in the day and the latest i think i was told was 3pm. her CBJ skills were fantastic :) CASSIDY: this one is in the south end, now she works at a hotel i do not like to visit, so i booked a room further down pembina and she arrived at the time she said she would. She looks exactly like the photos except her hair is kind of different, YMMV, she is open to stuff i suggested, but she said it all depends how attracted she is to the client, the one thing i did find positive is that when her cell phone went off, she stopped and shut it down until we were done our session. i find that rare in sp.'s i meet, not all do that but its nice to see some one on one time. VICKI: i seen this gem on a lunch break, i would probably repeat but only on a weekend. just because although i don't care for people who smoke, when i got back to my office my co-workers could actually smell the smoke off my clothes, so i said ok next time, not while at work lol. Play Safe! Cheers PS69

You know make makes my heart ache?...That CERB is one of the few online spaces where workers and clients can speak openly and respectfully about sexuality, our desires, our bodies as they relate to our sexual exchanges...and also about activism. What will this do qualitatively to our online community here?...I think about that. The fact that, in a post C-36 climate, we (workers) cannot represent ourselves in any way where we could be implicate ourselves as a 'known prostitute' (there is so much hurt and stigma embedded in that piece) and belong to and advertise on CERB, pretty much means that I cannot say "I'm a sex worker"....it's actually really huge; the politics of representation and standing firm to make a claim about one's [current] work, one's body... what that means in our community...there's a symbolic anihalation that runs very deep to the core in all of that. Sure we can play semantics, change our job title and terms of service...tow the line to survive, and, of course, we will, but there's a lot of pain and psychic isolation in that... There's are no quick fix comments for these pieces; I know, folks...and I know this thread it mostly being utilized for pragmatics....but there are these other pieces too...like ragged bits in the wind with no place to fall...and, yet they blow around anyway Because we are here :)

Past posts (pre C36) shouldn't, (and I'm neither a lawyer nor do I run CERB LOL)be at issue. There were no laws broken at that time, so why the need to remove those posts? Something else that likely needs to be changed on CERB is the recommendation template, no checklist of services a lady offered/provided. And posters must ensure their reco's don't breech C36 law...maybe recos have a moderation period before getting posted Anyhow, a late night rambling before bedtime F*uck C36 Peter MacKay , Stephen Harper and the CPC suck!!! RG

going to try and make it to this one missed the last few and all the fun the socials rock

We as providers and hobbyist are under scrutiny of the outside world. Facing names like John, who** cheaters, pervs, and I am sure much more. But we are so much more than those names. We are the ones brave enough to experience life as we see fit. . At the end of the day, we have chosen our path. For some of us, perhaps life lead us down this path. Maybe we choose this despite our upbringing? Maybe we hide who we are, but also proud of who we are. But sometimes... some others are not proud and are facing difficult life decisions on how does this affect the way we think on how we as persons should be treated and viewed. Recently, I met a lady who felt that she was not suppose to be proud, not suppose to be respected and not suppose to have self respect. For she had suffered from the hands of controlling people that made her believe so. This made my heart very sad, that such a lovely spirit could ever be made to feel that. This lady is so forgiving to her oppressors, that it made no sense to me. BUT her forgiveness taught me. It taught me, that she is much stronger then I ever could imagine. It taught me that if she could find a way to forgive and move beyond that experience, and yet still remain her true self then no matter what names we are called we can rise above that! She has no wish for harm, only to move forward head strong! I believe that once she learned to be proud of who she is. Knowing that she has value in this world no matter what job she takes on, that by showing her strength her oppressors has been silenced. They are too weak themselves to take on such a strong spirit and self confidence. I wrote this story in a singular stance, but in actual fact, this story is a compilation of many amazing women I have had the pleasure or working with! With each lady that I have worked with, ( as an agent ) this was the common dominator. Once they see how wonderful they are, what life can bring when you are positive and self proclaimed! Same story applies to our treasured hobbyist, so many times I have seen so many grow and learn why they visit. Sometimes, they even return to their " normal" life after experiencing this side of the tracks. And for them I am equally happy. Some choose that this is the only way they can maintain their "normal" life and that is also respected by me. I have met men that face abuse, oppression of sexuality and finances to the point their own health becomes at risk. I guess the whole point to this post, is that I want everyone, now matter what side of the fence your on.... To know your own self worth. To know that you are relevant to those around you. You deserve respect and do not let others make you feel less than you are! Strive to be the person you want to be, not the one you are TOLD YOU ARE! So if you have a story to share, or just need to come back to this post as a reminder that you are not alone in your situation....please use this post to have that affirmation.

Welcome to CERB. There are a number of us that provide sensual massage service, it also depends on how you define sensual massage. Myself, Katherine, Lilly, Mareana (when she's visiting, I know for sure. As in anything else, find someone who attracts you and then delve into them to see if they provide what you need. Good Luck!

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