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You know what I find interesting?...for as much as muff isn't talked about or praised overtly to a great degree here or on other boards, I think more men love and are more curious about natural kitties than one might deduce at first glance....the amount of views on this relatively recent thread being one interesting clue :) While shaved can be super hot, for sure, my first exposures to porn depicted women with wet, hairy pussies, so I'm hard wired for this now. Total turn on. That and big nipples and pendulous breasts. Yes, please! My kitty is graced with a soft (i.e. natural) landing strip, just so ya know ;p

Hello Cerbites, I have been having a day job since beginning September bringing me downtown Ottawa core and so I was there today and on lockdown till late in the day... Connected all day on TV with all reports and U know what being scared... We R known to be one of the best country in the world to be... will it still be the case after St-Jean-sur-Richelieu and Ottawa events.... hopefully nothing else will come out but who knows what a sick mind can think correct?? I know this is an escort recommendation site but I just felt I needed to share how I am and still am feeling now.... Sorry if U feel it it the wrong place and hey U can tell me. But I feel a little relieved. And yes Canada is a FANTASTIC country to live in!!! Thanks, merci Barbara xxxooo

Well, I'll throw my opinion in, and I hope I don't come off as bitter or rude! To touch on the part mentioned how it's so easy for women to have sex, no, I'm sorry, I completely disagree. Yes it is more easy to a certain extent, but why is that? Because there's a higher demand of men looking for sex, so the women have lots to choose from. Now why is that?! Well, to put it bluntly, we have to blame it on the patriarchy. But we'll get to that in a minute.. Men and women are taught at young ages very different things. Men are taught that they should be having sex, it's be all, end all in their lives, and they are praised for having it, lots of it! Women on the other hand(at least for the most part) are taught to save themselves, because if they sleep around, they loose a certain amount of their dignity(this is also a contributing factor as to why women selling sex is seen as so bad). We're taught not to sleep around or we'll be a whore, and who wants that?! So women are basically shamed into having the same carnal desires as men, so they decide to either supress them, or not care and live a fulfilling sexual life. Either way, they don't usually go looking for sex quite as much as men, since there still is that stigma and shame in the back of their mind. Another reason(not sure if I'm right or wrong with these, just spewing my ideas!) is this: for the most part, when men are choosing a provider, they at least usually try and find someone that is nice, caring, affectionate, etc. so it feels genuine to them. Men, in this sense, aren't just looking for a quick lay either, but something real, or that at least feels real. Women would be the same as well. For the most part, we don't run around screwing everything we can, we try to find someone who at least likes us before we sleep with them. This is why I have to disagree that it's so easy for women to have sex if they want it. If they're looking for really bad sex with someone they don't know and who probably doesn't even remember their first name, then yes, it's super easy! If they want to find someone to sleep with who at least slightly likes them, the odds slim down by A LOT. Trust me, I've been in the dating game for a long time, and the only availabilities are men who really could not care less about you, they just want in your pants. Now, back to the original subject.. One other huge contributing factor as to why there is such a lower demand for male escorts is simple: women don't usually make enough money to afford it. Most of the hobbiests in this business usually have a good business, or at least make a very comfortable living. I know the times are a-changin' but for the most part, the men are still the main breadwinner for most families while the women take care of the kids. Women, for the most part, do not make near as much as men, and are not nearly as high up in businesses as men(sorry, call me a feminist!), so they don't usually have hundreds to spare for pleasure. Sorry for my rambling, just my two cents on the matter! :) Posted via Mobile Device

Perhaps if it was your son who was gunned down or if you or someone you loved had been locked down and terrorized you might not see it as just a nut with a rifle and fear fear fear.... yes we will over react yes the right wing elements will use it as an example of why our liberties should be further restricted... but in my humble opinion it's ok to take a minute a reflect and remember because many Canadians did and do feel like they lost something this week. Just my opinion

Amazing Angela/ Lily that is her real picture 100% . she is beautiful and very sweet....

If you are in compliance with the lady's requirements and do not overstep boundaries (asking too many personal questions, sharing too many personal stories with her where she might not feel comfortable, insisting on off-the-clock extended conversing/texting or email, trying to stay over-time or enticing her to stay over time or meet off the clock for free, etc.) there is no reason why you should feel you are taking advantage of her. If you are getting a certain level of intimacy and other stimulation met through the time you spend with an SP without any unrealistic expectations, then I'd say you have a good arrangement. If you feel you are not totally satisfied and crave more, then you might be putting unrealistic expectations on the client/SP relationship. I understand some men do not want to pursue a dating relationship because for whatever reason they don't want the commitment that goes along with it. But you can't expect an SP no matter how gracious she is or how well you connect and get along with her, to give you access to her personal life, or her heart so to speak. Just because we are being paid does not mean we are there just for the money, but I would never want a client to think or expect it may develop into anything more. In some instances, a client and SP may click in the romance department and end up together as a couple, but it's not realistic for a client to see SPs hoping that will happen for him. I am not suggesting that is what you are doing, I'm just putting it out there, that if you think you are taking advantage of someone, ask yourself what you are doing that is perhaps making you feel guilty. I suggest you do a self-check, and if necessary, ask a provider you have been with who you trust who has the maturity to be honest and ask them if there is anything they have observed in your approach or behaviour that might be off putting. Little things that might not seem like such a big deal can something make others feel uncomfortable. Doesn't mean it can't be corrected.

So... last year we discussed things that were awesome... not like a billion diamonds awesome, but like sunshine awesome. This year we are looking at the anti-awesome. Things that suck. Large. But not large like a plane crash, or having your toes grow together (if that happens)... everyday suck stuff that you can look back at and sorta, giggle. 1. Grooming yourself at the public restroom, you lean too close to the vanity. It appears SOMEONE had been doing a full body bath before you. Result... faux pee stain on the front of your khakis. 2. You struggle and strain with the lid on a jar of something... say like jam (or instead of like jam, jam would suffice.) You pound it with a knife, you whack it on the floor, you run it under cold water. Finally brute force spells success. As you make the final brutal turn, the jar slips from your hand, flies through the air and crashes to the floor. Smashed into a million pieces, a million gooey sticky pieces. You have the lid in your hand. 3. In an intimate gathering you feel the discomfort of excess abdominal pressure. Using your ninja skills, you pass the discord silently into the room... forgetting the meal of cabbage rolls and sauerkraut the night before. No one is amused; they look at you and speak of a person that dines regularly on roadkill....

Just wanted to say that after being on Cerb for 4 years and meeting many SP's and MA's over the years that I have learnt a lot about the women who have chosen the is path as a career. Most of them have chosen this career because they enjoy the independence and financial freedom that it can bring. But this job is not easier. Many of them have families or kids to support. University educations that they are trying to complete. This job is demanding as it involves many hours of marketing, emailing, posting ad's answering text and PM's. Trying to get hotel, schedule appointments. The women who are most successful at this job are the one's that truly enjoy their work and like to please their clients. I've met many of these women and have truly enjoyed my time with them time and again. This can be a stressful time as they need the time to prepare the room and prepare themselves for each encounter. Some day's it can busy and other day's not. Some day's they meet some really fun gentlemen and other days, maybe some creeps. Some have been robbed, or beaten up or cheated. Sometimes there no shows or other girls that make fake appointments. This is a hard job. Sometimes it is physically demanding. They give their most intimate moments. It takes a certain kind of woman to handle the emotions and sexual activities that this job may entail. One SP, told me that it's not the physical aspect that is tiring. But the emotional aspect. To be able to pretend to enjoy themselves when they are not. She was saying that in this job she had to be the giver all the time and that most of the men were takers. Her Job was to give them pleasure and most men just used her to get as much pleasure for themselves. These women deserve more, they deserve to be treated kindly and with respect. Respect their time and their contact protocol. Be a gentlemen and be clean. Do not try to negotiate their rates, or push them for more then they are willing to offer. Give them a massage to start, make it about them in the beginning. They may have had a hard day, and appreciated a little kindness and tenderness and relaxation. Talk to them, they are people also, not just objects of your lust. Treat them well and with respect and kindness. I've been told by them, that it doesn't matter how old or what you look like. As long as you are a gentlemen and clean, you will be treated well. Remember, that they are there to make you happy and are providing a very intimate service, so you should appreciate they company they provide. If the chemistry and connection are there, you will have a great time. If the connection is real, it pays to return for repeat sessions. I have repeated many times with many of the women, and have found that each session get's better and better, as you get to know each other and are more relaxed with each other. I have had several good friendships developed over the years and have maintained them. Just wanted to say this to thank you to the women of Cerb for the fun and kindness that they have given us men over the years. I hope to meet many more of you over the next few years if I can :) Remember guys. Be a gentleman, be clean and respectful and you shall be rewarded. Oh yeah, one more thing. The woman should always cum first :)

I am bringing this topic to explain and stress the importance of taking the few minutes to READ our web sites before contacting us. In the coming days of our new reality, Bill C-36, it is now more important than ever to take a moment to read what our services are, the rates and any booking protocol that we have in place. By doing this, you can eliminate the need of communications of services. Which is a big deal to all of us these days. In our service descriptions, you will notice most of ladies have taken out our abbreviations and replacing it with terms like " HOUR of entertainment" " Brisk afternoon get-a-way" " happy massage" " flirty chats and companionship" " full services or minimum service" Each lady using terms that suite their services and personality. It is in the TIME and RATE that will be your clue as to what to expect in the TIME you are booking. NOT ONLY does this take out the communication you the hobbyist would have to be involved in therefore leaving little trace of evidence to be used against you on a later date. BUT it also saves a lot of miscommunication and frustration that us ladies endure. As for many ladies, we may offer anywhere from 2-6 different types of sessions. So as you can imagine to try to txt all that with out abbreviations is a long long task , then times that by 20 enquires! The whole day is spent on that, and now I have lost my precious time to book you in. If after reading the site, and you for some reason can not understand what we are offering, FIRST, look at the TIME that session is offering such as HOUR, HH, 90 min, an evening out, etc...then use some imagination, lol. But I know I know....you want the juicy stuff don't you? Well then I suggest to voice call directly. Rather then txting or PM about it. By a voice call, we can assess that you are indeed interested in booking not just playing games, as long as your number is unblocked. Some ladies have even decided no phone calls for enquires, in that case follow their protocols! At the end of the day, us ladies have made it this way to keep you safe. Keeping us safe and discrete as well. So rather then spending 5 hours on 20 questions, confusing and miscommunication frustrations.... READ OUR SITE FOR 5 MIN:) The you make an informed booking, and even if the abbreviations are not there you should be able to read between lines. If it is a new lady you have not yet met but has a good rep, look at her Reco's. If it is new to the scene lady, just book blindly and pay for time only, could save you a lot of grief later on! I hope to see more hobbyist reading our sites and less confusion on txt in the near future. I may have the same responds to all enquires soon... " please see my site for all your questions"

How about strip scrabble?

Thanks so much fStop for the help posts. This is a great trick in many cases but it doesn't apply to me as for me to be able to get my password I should have my password typed as dots already (.............) whereas in my case cerb automatically logs me in so I am already here when I click on cerb. If I logout then I am sure that cerb would ask me to type my password in an EMPTY textbox (not an already typed dotted password textbox with my password) and I don't want to logout either as it is a certain risk that I may not be able to login back.

You will never get it back. It was taken by the ghost of the pleath which was killed for it's hide to make the skirt!! ;)

I've offered and loved doing this service in the past.... Maybe a nice bottle of vino to get to know each other, lots of touching, teasing and kissing! I now have the pleasure of being with CMJ where you can even do duo's and couple massage. OH the possibilities!

If you've been waiting for the return of Ksenia, well gentlemen, here's your chance! I now go by Irina, but I'm back to play, for a little while ;) I can only guarantee availability until the 1st of November, and have no concrete plans to continue beyond that, so contact me soon! I am located at an upscale condo downtown, just minutes from the UofO campus! I am 5'7, 115lbs, 32B-23-32. This perfect body, and my delicate touch are not to be missed! Whether you're looking for stimulating conversation with a young intellectual, or some sensual fun with a cute, bubbly girl, you'll leave with a smile :) Have a lovely weekend! XOXO Irina

We should accept that this bill will be enacted and enforced as written. What we need to do now is discuss how to deal with it and preserve our ability to do what ever we want in a safe consensual manner. If done properly our response could even improve our encounters and eliminate the sludge that is occasionally experienced by both SP's and buyers. For clarity I don't support the new bill but I also don't think it will end this industry. Here are some initial thoughts: Advertising: We need to carefully examine the new law and change the way we communicate so as not to overtly contravene the law as written. There is no law against dating services of which there are many. If no price is established at this point then there is no selling involved. Encounters: Once in private we should discuss services and payment only after each party is comfortable of the situation. For established SP's and repeat encounters this will not be too difficult. For new encounters this places more emphasis on demonstrating each party are not law enforcement. CERB site: needs to change to not make it easy for law enforcement to place charges. Intent to commit an offence can be established by law enforcement by engaging on this site in a way that clearly establishes the intent to buy or sell services. We need a discussion forum on this NOW! before the bill is enacted to ensure we get our ducks in order.

Being asked "are you available now?" This usually comes from people who haven't even said hi let alone asked where I am located. Sorry but I don't sit around looking pretty, I have shit to do just like everyone else! But hey, if you want to see someone who isn't at their best....

Hi there, thank you for checking my ad. You will not be disappointed with my A+++ services ( the lady, the services, the place) My name is Vivian. I'm 28 years old. Gorgeous, i am a classy looking Lady with long black hair, seductive cat eyes and full sexy lips, beautiful silky soft, tanned skin. work out body with all the right curves in the right places. You have finally met the sweet girl next door, also the naughty girl in your dreams... I greet you at the door with a lovely smile then lead you to the massage room...I will start with a deep soothing tissue massage to relax all your muscles then follow with a soft, sensual, tease touch to invigorate your whole body then the fun time ... It will be the most relaxing, creative and passionate session for you ever. So amazing that you cannot help yourself from thinking about it and want to come back for more ! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92146 For relaxing massage $40/30m $50/45m $70/60m appointment only, call/text me at 613 712 1200 mon to sat 10am to 7pm

I agree with tanya, a website says a lot about you and who you are -- a well considered site says you take your work seriously. Give hiring a professional, a designer, a go! Make sure you find one that knows about responsive design (so it works on all platforms!) and accessibility, it's about more than concise information and good looks. Not all of them cost $400 / hr.

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Except for a married period, I've always gone solo for Christmas too. Don't mean nothing to me. Vietnamese take-out, walking around an empty city on Christmas Eve. Sounds sad, but only to those who need others.

It was just an idiot with a gun. One innocent person died. If anything, it just goes to show that security around Parliament Hill sucks and that's just about all. Really, put things into perspective. This guy killed 5 people with a kitchen knife: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary-stabbings-how-knife-crime-in-canada-can-cause-moral-panic-1.2611698 This isn't terrorism, it's an idiot with a crappy rifle. Much ado about little. An amateur, an idiot. Yet the government is keen to take away our rights. Fear, fear, fear, is all we hear. We will all pay, pay dear, dear, dear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuf0eLJ7-wk

Just met a gal with a soft and really succulent trimmed pussy. It was a delicious treat. Nom Nom. :-)

Umm Christmas! I love everything about it, but I would have to say the best is Granny's home made turkey soup. I just love being all cuddled up by the fireplace all nice and warm watching my favorite Christmas movies and sipping on a warm bowl of soup. Stiletto Girl Charlie XO

I truly hope that "Krista" is NOT doing Civil Engineering as the number of girls in that faculty is very very small and it will be easy to identify her if that is the case -- hopefully that part of the article in vice.com is misinformation.

There is a candy you only get at Christmas, called chicken bones. I suspect you can only get them down east, although I think I've seen them at the bulk barn. They are chocolate with a hard pink cinnamon flavoured coating. UM UM.

This year added to the mix (just for myself) apple crumble tarts and apple crisp...got a couple good recipes And my first time tart cooking turned out GREAT!!! RG

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This is an article written a few weeks ago that gives a quick look at the bill. Since there is no media coverage on this bill passing today, it's the best I've got for now. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cyberbullying-bill-c-13-moves-on-despite-supreme-court-decision/article20885941/

This bill was being touted as an anti-cyberbullying bill. And in the midst of what has happened in Ottawa, Harper has snuck this bill though without anyone noticing. Now, I'm not saying that this bill is an Orwellian Big Brother tactic... but it very easily could be. There has been virtually no coverage on this, since everyone's busy throwing the T word around. The Globe and Mail wrote an article on C-13 a few weeks ago, and it's worth a read if you're not familiar with what the bill is. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cyberbullying-bill-c-13-moves-on-despite-supreme-court-decision/article20885941/

Senate meetings update, they have been rescheduled to Wed Oct 29th 4:15 PM and Thurs Oct 30th - 10:30 am Webcast: http://senate-senat.ca/webcast-e.asp Diffusion web: http://senate-senat.ca/webcast-f.asp

I received a message from one of my colleagues in the Canadian Alliance for Sex Work Law Reform informing me of the following; A bunch of meetings in regards to C-36 in front of the senate were cancelled today. There are scheduled meetings tomorrow but we have reason to believe at this time they will be cancelled as well. I will keep you updated if there are more changes and if those meetings tomorrow are indeed cancelled as soon as I find out. The current date for the bill to go into effect, signed, sealed and delivered, is Dec 19th

Have met many more women in the last couple of months. In case Bill C36 passes. Many of these wonder women may retire. Or I may have to give the hobby. Don't know yet till it happens. But I just wanted to say that the more women I meet here, the more I respect and appreciate what they do. People outside of Cerb do not understand that people here do this out of their free will and really do enjoy meeting each other. I don't think many women here do this out because they have to. Most of the women I have met, have told me they truly love this work and will do it as long as they are able. I think this why I have such fun sessions. I've met many sex women here that just love what they do and if you are a gentleman and clean, the sky's the limit :)

Hi Everyone. . Just wanted to wish you all the best, unfortunately some life event has changed dramatically my life and I have decided to retire I full from the massage (adult) industry. I wanted to say thank you to those who were there for me this past years... those who became my friends, anyone who supported me in many ways Love to all and may happiness be with you! Vitto

Welcome to "the club" and kudos on your rational and open-minded approach. As to: "No sense in letting your secrets known" -- I'm actually fine with sharing what I know. In other professions, the "best practices" are often compiled by a board or committee and circulated amongst members. In some cases they're even binding as a condition of joining the guild. What sets me apart is more the particular blend of attributes I offer, rather than a secret recipe. I understand the "arms race" concern that once these safety measures become widely known, criminals will now how to get past them. While that logic is impossible to fault, I think there's more to the issue yet. That's why, in my opinion, public disclosure would not necessarily make things less safe for those of us who are already following these rules. A former romantic partner of mine studied psychology including criminal behavior, and with a few exceptions (see the movie Entrapment for a dramatization) she learned that criminals almost always take the path of least resistance and/or where they are least likely to be caught (e.g., they'll most likely burgle the hotel room closest to the stairs, or a corner house), and by extension, they will find and target girls who are sloppy about their personal safety. Unfortunately, even if "rules of safety" were widely known, many service providers would ignore them anyway. I'm not 19 anymore but when I was, I behaved as if I were bullt-proof and I suspect this is such common behavior that this is where the criminals will focus: gullible, naive targets without a well-developed sense of risk management. I actually love your "let's help each other" premise and I'm hereby personally inviting you to a cup of tea and a chat when I get to Vancouver on the 30th. I believe there's a lot of mutual empowerment possible, not least because sometimes I'm approached by a client who's not a good fit for me and it'd be nice if I could refer him to someone whom I know and trust. Please contact me and I'll be happy to share with you my safety-related principles. (Anyone else is welcome to ask too.) .Tanya

OMG, the shit that we put in our bodies! For many it is a realistic hope that this will cure the bastard known as cancer. For most, it is a painful, exhausting way to "live". If you know someone going thru treatment, give them an unexpected hug, call, kiss. If you know someone REALLY well, give them a blow job, or offer to provide DATY until you both pass out. It is all really, really appreciated Tom TheLiquor

Just as sex workers are shamed by society, so are the clients who see them. It's time to tell my side of the story TONY CALVIN Tony Calvin is the pen name for an engineer living in Silicon Valley. http://www.salon.com/2014/10/20/why_i_visit_prostitutes/

I'm a perpetual loner so I do not have issues with emotional intimacy, that and I have a really short attention span lol, so I can't offer any advice regarding that. But get over the idea that you are 'using' the provider. In any mutually beneficial arrangement, whether it be a SP encounter (with her in full control of her affairs) or a real world business deal, each side uses the other. As far as I'm concerned it's a "win-win" situation and the word 'use' really doesn't apply. Now if a lady has been forcibly coerced into this world and is being abused and exploited by a pimp or human traffickers, then yes, in that case you are using her, but in the CERB world I think such situations are few and far in between.

Well said Angela! Took the words out of my mouth:) I can also reiterate, that perhaps you are asking too many questions of a personal nature with her? I too, get very uncomfortable with that, and it could cause a small wedge between us. Keep conversation fun and lively, with humor and yes some serious chats is intriguing as well. But if you begin to dive into her personal relationship questions, such as " well doesn't he mind that you do this? Or " how to hide it from your kids?" well it would defiantly a loss of romance and adventure for the lady. One element many men miss, is that most ladies, when preparing for our date we switch into out alter ego. Much like an actor would. I call it " Sophiafied" lol...So by getting into deep personal questions, I loose my alter ego and get into my "me" mode and then I find it difficult to jump back into the sexy, seductive creature that I created for "Sophia" It is not a lie of who we are, but a more pronounced version of our sexy side. Another aspect to be an escort, is that for the most part we are givers by nature. This means, we much rather you spill your stress and worries on us if you need to talk about things in your life that are upsetting for you. Often lending an ear and shoulder if needed. I have had many of my dear clients unload their worries on me. Some heartbroken and shed a tear. But as a professional, I would never do this to a client. Never would I unload my inner most vulnerabilities. Because, we are here for YOU, you are the center of our attention and focus during our time together. So why do we all that? Well for my ownself, I truly love my work, and although "Sophia" is an alter ego, she is still another version of who the real me is. So in staying true to my real self being a giver it is not just a façade. I have a friend, the poor guy is so sweet and nice but always becomes the "friend or just like a brother" from most ladies he meets. But you see, when he meets ladies he wants to dive into their ways of thinking. Becoming like a confidant to them, helping them threw issues.....then before you know it, he missed the mark on when to make the move on them, and now is viewed" oh your just like a brother to me". So as you can see it also can happen in the "real world" too. But in our professional mutually beneficial escort relations, it can happen much more quickly to loose that moment. And that's when you begin to feel like your being "used" or vis versa. There certainly times, even with a good provider that chemistry just doesn't seem to be there. Not much can be done about that but try to enjoy the time and move on. And certainly there are providers that will make you feel like just a wallet rather then a man, that is a live and learn scenario. Maybe think of it this way, when you book time with a lady, think of it as your "man's spa day". It is just a retreat for you to treat yourself. Nothing more then a way to relax and have that human contact.

Well, to be blunt, they are there because of the exchange that you do. But then, so are you. You wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the exchange, in other words this is a mutually beneficial arrangement. There is nothing wrong with mutually beneficial arrangements between consenting adults. Most sps do this because they are people who are able to be morally open minded. They wouldn't last long if they are judgmental, or if they were self judgmental for their choices. Many clients are also morally openminded, and non judgmental. It is possible to share time with people that are friendly, fun and seemingly intimate, but are really only sharing conversation in a nonthreatening environment. This is a good thing, and will benefit you in your everyday life. Take and enjoy the experiences, and the sharing, and don't try to put a label on it. I assure you that the majority of sps do not feel taken advantage of in these mutually beneficial arrangements, they will only feel that way if something changes in the agreed upon exchange.

just wanted to mention that i try to please and sometimes im trimmed and sometimes bald, i always take requests :) thank you for the reference

Yup I do !

I believe she used to work many years ago at Angels Touch/Paradise.

I don't think it'll fly. Although the CPC refuses to acknowledge the existence of sex workers who aren't heterosexual cis-gender females, I think the language in C36 just talks about "people", and so all the laws that apply to female providers apply to male ones too.

Believe it or not, it can be nerve wracking for a stripper to walk up to a man, offer a dance only to get turned down. Especially if she sees other dancers approach a customer and being turned down. Perhaps that dancer thinks the first girl that was turned out is more attractive then her. I find that being away from the "pervert stage" as well as letting them approach you from behind helps. So, when picking a seat, try to pick one that is away from the center stage and that also allows the dancers to approach you from any direction (side, front, back). It also helps alot when you are in a high traffic area! lol my 2 cents

Thanks for the reminder Lexy, us ladies will need to support each other as industry references no more then ever. Also, Hobbyist, you will need to learn NOT to ask about service details!!! No more chats and abbreviations. You are booking for time spent only. I have explained this to many of my loves, but even after explaining it, I am still being asked for details, it is frustrating that they wont use their imaginations. Like if we say " hour of our time is XX" then I get a responds that says " so what we sit around for an hour?" LIKE really?? How else can I say it while remaining legal and not incriminating you? I suppose these men will figure it out soon enough after asking me 10 times, what do we do for an hour?? LOL

When is the day the bullshit bill goes to Senate and then after Senate is that it? I've looked everywhere and admit I was getting quite frustrated and upset re-reading everything so I will just ask. Hobbyists of all genders: Start your lists of all the Companions you have seen and would like to see. Obviously the established, reputable and trusted companions are not LE. Keep as much info as you can gather, Names, Phone numbers, Emails, Websites and a Notes Section/Column (read their reco thread or had good discussions etc.). Put it in an Excel Spread sheet and email it to your hobby email or put it on a USB and in a safe spot. It's always good to have a Plan B if this bullshit bill passes!! No hobbyist needs to stop hobbying, just do your research and don't wait until the last minute/night before. All My Love, Support, Hugs and Kisses, Lexy

Interesting to see that both sides react passionately to this thread. Very interesting debate. Although I haven't seen too many providers over the past few years, there are 2 that left very memorable memories in my mind. One was in Vancouver, and the other one was here in Halifax. The kind that filled me with physical, sensual and psychological wonder for the rest of the day, and even many days after. The kind of session that still makes me become hard and:jackoff: still today even if it happened almost 3 years ago for one of them. I am sorry to say there is no specific recipe or magic formula. Chemistry happens or it doesn't. It is a combination of things that put all together make you totally forget this is business first. Regardless of an open-mind posture, your physical attributes, an endless list of services (none of them had any but sky was the limit when reading between the lines), an endless stock of lingerie, professional pictures, etc. A few things tips for the build up though. First, be professional by being ready on the agreed time. I have met too many providers who were asking for extra time with a last minute notice. Then, make your client feel welcomed, regardless of the location (private residence or hotel room). Finally be attentive and fully involved. Some basic chat and initial physical contact are good ice-breakers. This is when I know if this will be a good or a poor session. Body language doesn't fool the experienced hobbyist. Pre-session communication is also crucial. I have enough experience now to be able to say is there is potential for good fun with an email exchange or a phone conversation. Don't get me wrong, there's always a certain unavoidable awkwardness when perfect strangers talk about intimate details for the first time. But strangely, chemistry can already be at work at that stage. The rest feels so much easier once that initial feel is there. This is when a provider becomes a partner with whom you can develop a durable intimate business relationship.

48. Lingerie leftovers So. Alotta Fagina and Anita Dickens-Hyde have left your home. You are spent. Three solid hours of cosplay, inflatable sheep, cookie dough debauchery, wrestling in a pudding filled wading pool and a film about donkeys have left you completely exhausted. Three days later when you recover and have finally commenced the cleanup, you notice a sheer lacy bra and a pair of exquisitely silky panties on the periphery of the scene of your greatest triumph. They do not match. What to do??? NO. Do not do that. That's just nasty. No. That too is nasty, and yes, I thought of it too, BUT I STOPPED BEFORE I PUT THE PLAN IN ACTION. Sicko. Yes. Yes you can wear the panties on your head for a brief time but ONLY if you pretend you are a masked Mexican wrestler OR the Silken Avenger. Okay, you can also use the bra as a dual coned headdress or a really large ears for your Silken Avenger outfit. You are not allowed to use the bra to augment the Masked Mexican wrestler personna. That's just silly. After you have done that. Make contact. Seriously. Don't wash the articles. Contact the providers and let them know that they have left the articles there. If they wish to retrieve them, keep them safe and do not cry when you have to let them go. If they don't, you have years of Silken Avenger adventures to keep the memories alive. Oh... and don't let the providers know about the Silken Avenger, the Masked Mexican wrestler or the dual cone heads. That's our little secret. 49. Pancakes. Did you know that you can eat these babies for supper AND serve them with bacon??? I was blissfully unaware of that until just recently. I mean really. Pancakes, maple syrup and bacon all on the same plate and served willy nilly during the course of the day??? Revofuckinglutionary. What does it have to do with the hobby? Um... duh. Are you a hobbyist? Do you want to be happy??? Pancakes, maple syrup and bacon make this hobbyist very happy. It's not all about sex you freakin' pervert. Unless you could mix it all up with an encounter. That would be AMAZEBALLS. Sticky?? Sure. Delicious? Absolutely. Hygenic? Meh. Two outta three ain't bad. 50. Wolverines. Nope. Don't even think about it. Hugh Jackman is ridiculously expensive to book for an encounter as your stunt double and live wolverines tend to pee, spray odiferous musk and are generally unwilling to take commands. They also have ill tempers and tend to be ummmm... bitey. Trust me. Wolverines and encounters do not mix.

The localescorts.ca classified system "2.0" is installed and running now. This opens up ALL the cities in CANADA and the text ads are free. The system is a work in progress but it seams to be running pretty good. It lets you edit the text ads using a link sent by email. Paid ads are automatically on top and automatically BUMPED to the top of the text ads every few hours. Any improvements you can suggest I will pass them onto the developers.

Ahhh, the ?tipping? debate! I noticed there was a decided void in SP response so I will take a minute to share my thoughts? From an agency girl perspective, tipping is often a way to generate extra income because after they pay the agency and the driver, they usually end up on the short end of the stick. 10 years ago, I ran for an agency, we collected $260 for an hour, with $110 going to the house, $40-$100 to the driver depending on where the visit was located, which left me maximum of $110 with as little as $10 in my pocket. With a $15 book on fee and mandatory car cell phone fees of $25 per night, I needed 3 full fees per night to make working worthwhile, God forbid I get credit card calls, which somehow always worked out us getting nothing. We were not allowed to refuse a call so we had to find creative ways to ensure we were paid. Tipping for extra service was the only way to keep our heads above water. The nice thing was that we had a shift, we worked, and we went home and had a life. That said, it was unfair to the guest who would end up with less than what he expected because he was not prepared for the extra fees. Independents are in a slightly different boat. We usually have a higher upfront fee, but we also assume ALL the costs incurred, which is far more than many realize. If we charged what we feel we should to get our ROI, the protests would be heard long and loud. Many Indies have a smaller bottom line than an ambitious girl at a well run agency. So when it comes to tips, many things need to be considered. In the south, SP's are tipped much in the same manner as a restaurant. Anyone walking a restaurant wouldn?t consider walking out without leaving a tip if everything was satisfactory. I tip everyone in the service industry, from the girl who washes my hair, to the man at Suny?s who pumps my gas because a little bit from many adds up at the end of the day. Flowers and trinkets are lovely in thought, but a girl can?t deposit wilted stems into an RRSP, and my bank doesn?t seem to take dildos, massage oil, garter belts or silk stockings on deposit -go figure! As Joyful C has so wisely stated, most SP?s live a fragile existence financially. We provide an illusion of playful luxury for our guests benefit, but rest assured, 90% of the time it is smoke and mirrors. Behind the scenes we struggle to pay our bills, put diapers on our babies and try to take care of those we love, all the while working on a way to get to a normal existence if that does in fact even exist. An extra $20 from each client equals a full appointment by the end of the week, and at the end of the month that pays the cell phone, buys the groceries and lets us take the little ones away for the weekend after we have paid both rents (home and incall), all our advertising, babysitters, hydro, car repairs, personal maintenance and the same expenses everyone else has. Not to mention the monthly payments on augmentation, lifts, tucks and anything else to keep us up to the exceptionally high standards expected if we want to continue making money in this arena. There are few SP?s who can keep up the daily client service to ensure long term financial viability in this business because of the emotional and physical toll this business extracts which sometimes means extended time offs to get our heads, hearts and bodies back in order. We have no paid holidays, benefits or paid personal days. If there is a crisis that forces us to take time off, we lose money and clients which often means we work regardless of illness, pain or any other of lifes challenges. Each SP has her own reasons for working, but the universal element is that we all are trying to achieve some sort of financial stability. I never expect tips, and I can count on one hand how many I have received since my arrival in Canada because of the nature of the business here. Hate to tell you guys, but Canadian men are not known for their generous nature, they rank a close second to Germans in this realm (I think the outlandishly high taxes inflicted in both countries has something to do with it!). I would never expect a tip from guests that have me on retainer, I see them weekly. But unless you are going to be a bankable commodity in a SP?s life, a tip relative to the quality of service is a sure way to say thank you and have her know you mean it... Catherine