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Your advertising should reflect you and the more descriptive words the better. "Money is being exchanged for time or time and companionship". While I don't know what type of dates you offer, the following is a suggestion: Wild, adventurous and Intense could be used to describe a hot pse style date. Sensual, romantic, and gentle could be used for a gfe style date. Put the word safe anywhere in there and you have a safe gfe date. Basically a visually descriptive paragraph describing you and the time together, more is better in this case for what you write. It is about getting people to read between the lines, yet being clear so they get it. I suggest, start with the highlights about you and then get more visually descriptive as you start writing about the date you offer. Think about your best asset and go from there. Once you start writing it does get easier. I hope this helps. xoxo Emily

I've always hated those asking me "what they are going to get for their money". I am not the sum of bj+daty+intercourse=me/$. Sorry, but I'm a feminist at heart. I am much more then that. I'm taking the stance that my reputation speaks for itself. There are those that have met me, know I know how to rock their world. So, I will not discuss specifics anymore. What I do with one guy, might not work with the next. So, they can see me on my terms. If they need specifics, they need to move on. I'm willing to loose out, to see those that understand we as women are not the sum of our parts. Would a first time blind date on pof ask ahead what they are going to get at the end of the date? Of course not. He can hope, dream, but at the end of the day, ymmv. So i suggest your recos, stories, titles work better. Guys need to read between the lines. If they need to be spoon fed, they need to go back to preschool. Look at USA sites. How do they advertise. Take your cues from them. I am taking this opportunity to market myself the way I want. I no longer let clients make me put myself in a position of having to promise something I am not sure I want to provide. It's like the guy who wants daty, and shows up with a full blown beard that's stubble. It's not fun, and if I promised it ahead of time, how do I now say no? Guys that know me, know I'm a greedy slut to good daty, but if it's crappy, why would I want to continue? So, I've said it before. I'm not worried. I'm not the one who is in danger of being arrested. The guys are the ones that need to change how they choose. I'm going to continue rocking the world of those that seek me out. Just taking back my power in this dynamic.

This is a tough one, and you certainly need to ask yourself what you require of a relationship and of your current friend. I'm hesitant to reply because while you've certainly shared some key points, there are a million things I don't know because I haven't been there to grasp the full context. But here are some thoughts about people and relationships. First point: your relationship with this woman will probably always be difficult. She has shared with you that she has a form of mental illness (I'm not using that perjoratively) which she is treating as best she and her doctors can. But such treatments are never perfect. From what you've described you can probably expect these low points, rough patches, and periods of noncommunication to recur from time to time. Second point: hey, we all get to set the boundaries and expectations for our relationships, what we require of our partners and what we will and won't endure. These are individual decisions. If my paragraph above makes you think "yeah, fuck that," that's a perfectly valid and honest response and you should extract yourself. Third point: what's a relationship? If relationships are purely transactional -- "I will put in these things in and I expect you to do or be these other things to my standards, or I walk," then sure. If someone falls below your standards, you walk. But human relationships are also about support and commitment even when things get tough and, at least in patches, may fall below your usual expectations. I know your relationship isn't there yet, but if you *love* someone, then the transactional part becomes very small. Instead you commit yourself to supporting your partner even when he or she is difficult, even uncooperative, and things are hard and frustrating and -- yeah -- kind of crazy. Not that we should make ourselves martyrs, but rather that we should look at our relationships in terms of what we're willing to give, at least as much as what we're expecting to receive. So maybe ask yourself: how much farther than halfway are you willing to go in your relationship with this particular friend? She has some personal challenges, which it sounds like she's been open about. She's been going through stressful times with midterms and maybe she's overwhelmed and can't deal with other human beings right now. For some people, shutting down and withdrawing is the way they cope. It's a primary symptom of depression, or even just flare-ups of introversion. Or hell, maybe it's something entirely different and maybe nastier. I don't know. Neither do you. You have no information about her state of mind or anything else: just silence. In your position, based only on what you've told me, I'd give her time and space, continue to let her know (but not too frequently) that you're still there, and see what happens. But until you hear back, you're deciding based on guesses on what her actions MIGHT mean, without knowing what they DO mean. Hey, sometimes that's all we ever get. And sometimes things do reach a limit. But I'd suggest waiting until you know what's going on, or are reasonably confident you do, before making a final decision. Unless, that is, the prospect of this pattern repeating itself in the future is by itself enough to make you walk. In which case -- hey, your decision is already made, isn't it?

Hi guys, I TOFTT last week end with Lilly from Moncton/Riverveiw. After a few tentalizing messages form Lilly, we set up an early app. for Saturday morning. The morning after, no show and no answer to my texts. Finally, she answered back a couple of hours latter saying she was sorry and that she had overslept. She offered me to come to see her at her Grand parents's place! (First clue) Suposedly they were out west and she was taking care of the house. When I got to the house, I notice a lot of shoes at the entrance! (second clue). She invited me in a small room in the basement of the house. It was full of dolls!!!! (Third clue) (WTF???) BTW, her pictures are definitly not new. She carry an extra 50 to 75 lbs over and above what she looks like on her pics!!! (forth clue) I then gave her the agreed rate and sat on the bed. She asked me if I wanted a massage and I said ok. I then proceed to take of my watch and shirt then she freaked out. She told me that she was with the police (???) and that I should leave imediatly or she would call them. She then said that she would call her boyfried. I asked for for my money back, but she refused. Not knowing if there was anybody else in the house, I was now feeling that that my security could be in jeodardy. So I left immediatly. She is a thief , a crook and a con artist! Be very carefull guys. See her add and pic below. http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/fr-ca/FemaleEscorts/love-5068711028new-pics-horni-girl-special-kisscuddle-full-sweet-deals-lilly-5068711028-23/1615660

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Note: the URL provided is a link to a keyword search using the terms "Nicole" and "b34" that should pull up her most recent BP ad Having seen Nicole many months ago and putting her on my repeat list, I was anxiously looking forward to getting reacquainted with her. My second experience with setting things up would be as simple as the first: a few text messages and I was booked, had an address, buzzed upstairs to the upscale suite, and face-to-face with her right on time. She is tall but do not let her height deter you; Nicole is flexible and graceful. Her skin is soft and natural (not fake-and-bake). Her photos do not do her body justice either; Nicole is toned throughout and has supple firm breasts that proves she is being truthful about her weight and age, respectively. If you like long hair then hers cascades wonderfully over you since she doesn't put it up while you're playing together -- at least not the two times I've seen her. Overall, I would describe her persona as the "girl next door" who once you get to really know then all sense of innocence gives way to the sheer delight of a woman who embraces her sexuality with an open mind. My second visit is 1 hour and between the sexy play and two SOG, we get along great chatting and laughing. Nicole's skills have improved immensely since I first saw her and I question my ability to keep up with her during playtime; although she challenges me in more ways than one today, I feel amazingly in sync with her and we undoubtedly enjoy all the things that we do to each other and do together. In proper response to the affections of a gentleman, you will soon find that she is a top notch GFE and if you love DFK then there is a texture unique to her that you have to experience to fully appreciate. The sweetness continues down below -- one of the many reasons I returned -- and she is as wonderfully delicious as I remembered from our first meeting. As for FS, you will crave to be with her in every position possible (at least I do) because she has that "just right" feeling. I have already mentioned how great of a kisser she is so you can draw your own conclusions from that statement about other activities involving her luscious lips on you! As the hour nears a close, we are both a bit sweaty (Nicole reminds me it's a sign we were really having fun), we are both feeling great, and have big beaming smiles. A shower and fresh towel is offered but I opt to head home to fully tidy up. As I button my shirt I tell her the good news -- I enjoy her company so much that she will be one of my select few regulars and I promise that as long as she's working in the biz then we'll be seeing each other. I make a mental note when she says she likes to keep a regular schedule and in my head I begin pre-planning my next visit as I stroll to my car. In a post about her friend Yasmine a long time ago, I made reference to a duo with them. Given my most recent visit with Nicole, the likelihood of that happening is definitely inching closer to reality, although I do sense that I want to play one-on-one a bit more with Nicole exclusively prior to that!

Cool, hope my post was useful in some way. Sounds, though, like I've retraced a lot of ground your friends were already telling you. I can understand the frustration of not knowing what's going on, but it's possible that your friend's times of crisis are the very times she's least likely to be able to communicate what's going on with her. It sounds like NOT always knowing is going to be an ongoing aspect of your relationship. So in part, what happens going forward is going to depend on how comfortable you are managing that absence of information. Friends who might tell you "it's not fair for her to do this to you" would be right. But sometimes "unfair" isn't the same as "malicious", especially when the behaviour is to some degree out of her control. But hey -- I don't know. I'm running with just one version of what's going on, but it could be lots of things. Best wishes and good luck.

I have had to delete two threads in the past 24 hours of people using cerb to vent about things that I like to refer to as AIRING OUT YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY that is not the purpose of CERB and I must delete these posts and give out warnings for such things. For example... calling out a guy who is stalking you in hopes that he reads your thread about him on cerb (THIS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED!). If you have a stalker CALL THE POLICE do not bring these problems (or encourage these people) to/on cerb. If it is a cerb member REPORT him/her to me and CALL the police. Posting about someone in public who is obviously unstable and harassing you will only make things worse and could encourage that person to escalate his/her attempts to harass you. If you have a TIFF with someone, keep it off cerb please. For example #2... If you work in a massage spa and as an escort on the site and you want to complain in public that guys are coming to see you in the massage spa and talking about your escorting (or looking for "extra's at the spa")... this is something you need to deal with privately not complaining on cerb about it. The point I am getting at here is cerb is NOT to be used as a place to vent, a place to call out other people or air out your dirty laundry. Some things are better dealt with in private or by the proper authorities.

Fewer women pay for sex because a) women aren't taught to explore their own sexualities and desires b) women still earn less than men and have less income to toss around c) women are still the primary caregivers when children are involved, so those women also have less time to spend looking for a decent male escort.

I've never posted a list of services, and never posted rates for such services. The closest i've ever gotten was on a more permissive escort ad site where i put down what I do not provide, such as bbbjs, quickies for example. sps never used to post ads with menus, it would be considered against the law for the longest time, misinterpreted as public solicitation, and correctly interpreted as admission of an illegal bawdy house (INCALLs), and we got along just fine until the internet and the less informed advdertisers started up with complete menus, options, times/rates, etc. it has gotten to the point that sps without menus/rates/times would be penalized by certain types of clients for making them make a phone call to ask about the rates lol. so they don't call anyone without the info. i am waiting to see what those types of control freaks are going to do in the future if all advertisers go under the assumption that posting services in ads are forbidden. The conflict here is that it would not be illegal to post all that info, as an sp you can advertise your own sexual services. The confusion is running towards what effect doing so could potentially have on clients who contact your ad. Realistically, I can't see any enforcement policies that could possibly be applied to take your ad and link it to a certain client in order to charge him with something. However, the common consensus is that it will or could be, therefore the clients are warned to only contact sps who do not post this info in their ads, and do not discuss such info in text or emails. In any event, i won't change what i have been doing with advertising, because as i say i have never done that in the first place. Also, when you consider some ad sites, that info is not allowed anyway, so just use something like your back page ad as your guide.

I learned (well taught by a certain lady ;-) )early in my newbie days that seeing ladies was not about the sum total of menu items she offers...it was about the companionship a lady provides. In fact most of the ladies I see now do not even have a menu of services. And I don't even ask about the lady's menu (if she has one) when booking a date. There is so much more to a date with a lady Whatever happens in an encounter is private, and unfolds naturally, not to a prearranged script This has been my experience and dating life with professional companions since learning there is much much more to seeing ladies than the sum total of her menu (if she has a menu) And this is pre C36 That said, all of us, SP's and Clients alike know about C36 and it's restrictions. But contrary to MacKay's delusion this lifestyle will continue. Offer time and companionship as an escort. But not as sex provider, prostitute well you get the idea. No discussion of sex for money, or is that money for sex It's means changing practices. But what happens privately, well that's no one's business but yours and your client's. The ones who adapt will continue on in this lifestyle, those that can't adapt, they're the ones who may find trouble with C36 A rambling for what it's worth from a client who reads lady's websites ;-) RG

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She says she loves you after being together for only two months or even less?! I'm no expert, but every time a woman told me she loved me way too soon into the relationship, it ended up being a total train wreck in the end! Ha ha, I made it sound like I'm some Don Juan or something, which isn't the case, but it's happened to me a couple of times. And as for her loving you, she's got a damn strange way of showing it. Some antidepressants can make people emotionally numb and aloof, which may be the case here.

Sending best wishes to PistolPete for his birthday! It was yesterday, and I hope it was a good one!

I remembered I didn't post back after I made my phone calls... In Moncton (not sure of other cities as I didn't ask) anonymous STD testing is no longer available (HIV being the exception as Meaghan linked to). As I mentioned above, it requires a visit to a clinic that will test what they can on site (urine) and refer to hospital etc for bloodwork. The lady said this changed about two years ago when resources were reallocated. FYI.........

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I wanted to take some time and go over some details with a few activists before I made this post so you can understand the inner workings of abolishment agencies, those who support and pushed for C-36 to be brought forth. There are two main groups of people that support C-36. As you may have guessed some are run by religious factions and funded by church organizations. I do believe (and this is if my memory serves me correctly) that MP Joy Smith attends a church that supports or funds a Human Trafficking organization and that's how she got involved in the whole pro abolishment issue. When I say religious factions, I'm referring to strong religious beliefs that are anti pretty much everything, extremists. The other group consists of man haters. They blame men for everything, so no real explanation is needed for that and they too are extremists. They get their funding from the government (under a couple of misled idealisms), churches, sexist domestic violence organizations, programs and misleading the public about their organization. One of the largest agencies that runs a "man hating" organization and partook in the hearings is based in Vancouver. So this is what they do, they usually troll anti-C36 organizations on news articles, university studies, boards etc, anywhere that is public and they can "refute" claims made by sexworkers. They troll and look for any kind of "disparaging information" on review boards and I know two rather large abolishment agencies that do this on a regular basis. They'll take snippets of information here and there and put it all together and there's their "evidence". So how you talk to and about sp's on review boards and with some people it's not so nice, is taken by them, conflated 10 times worse than what was posted and voila, there's their evidence. Words on review boards, very much matter and although people have the right to express their views, understand you're not dealing with people that "get" someone may say something out of context or because they're having a bad day or week, whatever, it's used against us on an extremist level. And well, again some people are just not so nice to women in general on review boards, we've all seen it at one point or another. This is how they come up with their statistics in a lot of cases; let's say you're a 25 year old service provider and happen to look very young, underage in fact. You will automatically get put on the child trafficking list, they'll go through craigslist, backpage and other ad sites and they will purposely look for ladies that look young. They will then purport that there are X amount of ladies that are child trafficked and pimped (btw in their minds everyone is pimped) but they'll push the agenda more so the younger ladies are pimped and trafficked. If you're a minority and in particular of Asian descent you're a triple whammy. So they take the X amount of young ladies and minorities (one of the bigger agencies that if I recall correctly, did stats for Somaly Mam used this particular method) times that by .39 and this is how they come up with their "guesstimates" of how many "children are being human trafficked" and how many "minorities are being trafficked" .. so understand that they have NO real statistics at all, they are all just guesstimates. Now .39 may not seem like a big number but believe me it turns into a real large number when they're all said and done. Now as you may have guessed if they conflate stats for young women and minorities they surely must conflate their human trafficking stories and you would be right about that. Somaly Mam has been one of the biggest perps where this is concerned (google her, there are literally hundreds of stories about her and the celebrities, news agencies and other media outlets that supported her and her cause, with ZERO research being done into her story). Oprah, Susan Sarandon are just a few of her supporters - ZERO research. She's walked on more red carpets than your A-list celebrity has. And you know what the excuse is for her actions? Who cares if she lied, she saved thousands of women and children. YES, this is the garbage being spewed to our members of parliament based on ZERO FACTUAL evidence. Chong Kim is another big perp in this arena, she made the movie Eden which won several awards at many film festivals and her story is just beginning to unravel by our supporters. Her story was supposedly based on "true" story, which is false. So not only do they lie about stats, they also lie about being human trafficked. 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Junk Science - Sex Trafficking Study http://www.sfweekly.com/2011-03-23/news/sex-trafficking-fake-study-womans-funding-network-deborah-richardson-nick-pinto/ Myths and Facts about Sex Trafficking during major sporting events http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2014/01/just_in_time_fo.php Somaly Mam foundation closes http://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/somaly-mam-foundation-closes-down-70300/ Somaly Mam's ex-husband blames media http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/cambodia/140926/cambodia-somaly-mam-Pierre-legros Hollywoods Dangerous Obsession with Human Trafficking http://www.salon.com/2014/06/10/hollywoods_dangerous_obsession_with_sex_trafficking/ Cong Kim- Trafficking Fraud exposed http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/12/eden-sex-trafficking-fable-falls-apart Trafficking Victim Fraud in Calgary http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/alberta/Australian+woman+centre+false+trafficking+claims+Ireland/10267012/story.html

They don't pay the workers and it's very similar to that video I posted above, where Cambodian HT rescued victims make $80 a month in the clothing factories. Everything is about what they can do for their orgs. BTW FO, if you watched that video I posted The High Cost of Cheap Clothes, you will also find out that the US is Cambodia's "largest investor" in cleaning up "human trafficking" and I'm pretty certain, we're not too far down on that list, since a lot of our clothes are made in third world countries as well.

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Jayde is a little firecracker, maybe 5 ft 1, 100 lbs, and a tight little body. She's in her mid twenties, but looks much younger. She has a very innocent look about her, but don't let that fool you. She does have tats though and she doesn't advertise all the time.

I guess it's less debatable now. :P

wow, sorry to hear that this happened to you Too bad girls don't use up to date pics, or pull bullshit like this, it makes it a scary situation for the guys. Hopefully you will continue to participate in hobbying, if the girl doesn't look like she portrays in her pictures, don't continue, just leave.

Karina is about 5'9" with wavy brown-blonde hair and a mid-European accent. The owner was not there at the time.

It's clear that she has some mental health issues that she needs to work through. I hope she is seeing a therapist of some sort. It may be that the two of you can work through this together, it may be that you can't. Both of you would have to want that for it to work. You should decide if you have that in you first and foremost. Everything else is a moot point of you do not. Either way, now is likely not the time to press it when the stress levels are so high. I suspect that this is a similar situation to the last time. You will hear from her again in time. Once things have calmed down, some decisions have to be made about how to proceed and whether or not to proceed together. One thing is for certain that you can't live your life with the possibility of her disappearing on you again hanging over your head.

Maybe it's a shit test. If she texts you again saying that she misses you and wants to do something together, maybe you should say, "Well honey, I have a date tomorrow but maybe the next day?" Or maybe maintain radio silence and ignore her for a while and let her sweat instead? Or maybe lose her number and move on?

Happy Belated PistolPete!!! Hope it was a great one :)

it is very possible it is an exact replica of what happened before: phone died, not paid for, etc. I would stick to one text or phone call daily until it resolves itself, and keep in mind that i assume this is midterm time. as a student paying a phone bill may not always be as easy as for someone who is working. also, my friend has issues with her sim card. Many times trying to reach her, able to leave a message, but there is no ringing, it goes right to vm. texts don't come thru, they arrive only when she is able to reset her phone, which is not easily done. Buying a new one is not going to happen anytime soon.

Ok, so here's the situation as it stands right now: Just to refresh everyone's memory, my girlfriend has ongoing issues with depression and adult ADD. Things were going smoothly until the second weekend of October. We spent some real quality time with one another, but even then, there were warning signs that her disorders were acting up again... not having much energy, tired, she felt her brain was slowing down etc.. She also mentioned that she thought her medications weren't working so well anymore. To compound all this, she was feeling very stressed out about some upcoming midterms. I gave her some space over the next while and agreed not to see her so she could focus on her studies. We still kept in contact through text and phone calls. Anyway, I got a text from her about a week ago in the middle of the night, saying that she wished that the midterms would just be over with, asked me how I was and said she missed me, complete with heart symbols etc.. That was the last time I've heard from her. I fear this is a repeat of her initial disappearing act, which prompted me to start this thread. Anyway, I've sent numerous texts and a voicemail, trying my best to remain as supportive as possible. I told her that I was worried about her, and asked her more than once to let me know if she was ok, but no response from her. I also said that I could empathize with the stress/pressure she must have been under, and that I would always be there for her if she needed to talk about anything. I also told her how I feel when she stops communicating with me out of the blue... not only do I fear for her safety, but I also feel a bit hurt and neglected since I can't seem to make sense of her seemingly aberrant behavior. I've always felt that a positive relationship is one where there is open communication on both sides. However, that is not the case here. I feel that she should have given me some form of acknowledgement at the very least, even if it was only a sentence. Not knowing what's going on makes the situation worse on my end. Anyway, I asked her to let me know if she still wanted to do something fun last Friday, and if not, I would leave her be until she felt she was ready to communicate again. As I write this, I still have not heard from her. Does anyone have any advice, what I could do, what might be going on with her, how to proceed etc.? I'm at a loss... Thanks!

Happy Belated Birthday Hope you had a Great Day RG

Hope you had a great Birthday yesterday Pete

Sending a Big hug to Mrrnice2 in hopes that his immune system ramps up, kicks the butt of whatever he's fighting and gets him on his way to visit family. Also for everyone dealing with something difficult; you're stronger than you think you are and sometimes the hardest moments give way to the biggest and best moments.

Well, I'll throw my opinion in, and I hope I don't come off as bitter or rude! To touch on the part mentioned how it's so easy for women to have sex, no, I'm sorry, I completely disagree. Yes it is more easy to a certain extent, but why is that? Because there's a higher demand of men looking for sex, so the women have lots to choose from. Now why is that?! Well, to put it bluntly, we have to blame it on the patriarchy. But we'll get to that in a minute.. Men and women are taught at young ages very different things. Men are taught that they should be having sex, it's be all, end all in their lives, and they are praised for having it, lots of it! Women on the other hand(at least for the most part) are taught to save themselves, because if they sleep around, they loose a certain amount of their dignity(this is also a contributing factor as to why women selling sex is seen as so bad). We're taught not to sleep around or we'll be a whore, and who wants that?! So women are basically shamed into having the same carnal desires as men, so they decide to either supress them, or not care and live a fulfilling sexual life. Either way, they don't usually go looking for sex quite as much as men, since there still is that stigma and shame in the back of their mind. Another reason(not sure if I'm right or wrong with these, just spewing my ideas!) is this: for the most part, when men are choosing a provider, they at least usually try and find someone that is nice, caring, affectionate, etc. so it feels genuine to them. Men, in this sense, aren't just looking for a quick lay either, but something real, or that at least feels real. Women would be the same as well. For the most part, we don't run around screwing everything we can, we try to find someone who at least likes us before we sleep with them. This is why I have to disagree that it's so easy for women to have sex if they want it. If they're looking for really bad sex with someone they don't know and who probably doesn't even remember their first name, then yes, it's super easy! If they want to find someone to sleep with who at least slightly likes them, the odds slim down by A LOT. Trust me, I've been in the dating game for a long time, and the only availabilities are men who really could not care less about you, they just want in your pants. Now, back to the original subject.. One other huge contributing factor as to why there is such a lower demand for male escorts is simple: women don't usually make enough money to afford it. Most of the hobbiests in this business usually have a good business, or at least make a very comfortable living. I know the times are a-changin' but for the most part, the men are still the main breadwinner for most families while the women take care of the kids. Women, for the most part, do not make near as much as men, and are not nearly as high up in businesses as men(sorry, call me a feminist!), so they don't usually have hundreds to spare for pleasure. Sorry for my rambling, just my two cents on the matter! :) Posted via Mobile Device

I think it may be a cultural thing. I believe there may be women who would consider this as an option, but it's frowned upon in the North America as a rule. I have female friends who have expressed to me they would consider it, but they don't have the courage to take the plunge. In large cities like New York for example, male escorts for females are more popular. This may be perhaps because there are more female executives and rich women who may be more likely to be seeking no strings attached encounters where they don't have the time or inclination to use dating sites or pick men up. Also male escorts are much more popular in Europe where people are less uptight about sex. Whenever a male asks me for advice about become a male escort, I tell them that unless they are willing to service men, to forget about.

I'm cynical and thus a firm believer in justice, not as a theological post-grave construct or a magic-karma thing but as a particular variation of the law of cause-and-effect. This is why I think we'll prevail. In more detail: We affirm our right to make a living using, amongst other things, our bodies ... as part of the interaction with other consenting adults who are within their rights to spend their own money in exchange for our services. Of course, so do actresses, and butchers & bakers & candlestick makers -- but somehow the sexual nature of our work inspires some folks to want to demonize us. Long term and perhaps not just long-term, what gives me hope is that we have truth on our side, i.e., we make our points with honesty as our basic premise. The "other side" seems to be using confusion and obfuscation ... and often blatant dishonesty. That bodes well for us. If anyone had any moral fuzziness on this point, this aspect in and of itself ... it should help clarify things, greatly. I've met Dennis Hof (who runs a number of legal brothels in Nevada) and worked with him over the course of several days, while making a website for one of his business ventures. I learned quite a bit about how he operates. I like how he deals with critics. He invites them, individually, for an all-expenses-paid week-long visit to one of his brothels. The critic (stereotypically, a conservative Christian female reporter or a faux-feminist reporter from the left side of the political spectrum) is not supposed to interfere with business (e.g., go confront clients or ruin the mood) but is welcome to wander around, look around, eat meals with the girls, and ask any questions of anyone and everyone who works there. By the time they leave, they've lost many illusions and the most honest amongst these critics have become convinced that their animosity was misguided. I hasten to add that some of the people who push for criminalization have so dishonest an axe to grind that no amount of reasoning will sway them, but if we can get the word out to the relatively rational voting public, it bodes well. It's time for paraphrase my favourite philosopher, Ayn Rand: on our side of the battle, we have three powerful weapons: rights, reason and reality. Let's use them. .Tanya Additional Comments: The basic issue is one of rights. We have the right to use our bodies as we're doing. Laws don't change rights; they can at best make some activities illegal. Criminalizing prostitution morally changes nothing. It just makes the law wrong, and puts law enforcement on the side of prosecuting those who aren't doing anything wrong. So, it's an inversion of justice. One of my clients (and also by now, a friend) is a senior retired police officer. Even many years later, he recalls with bitterness and shame the injustice he enacted when he was sent out to arrest service providers. A great many law enforcement officers are basically good people. They signed up in the name of justice, to protect citizens from violent people. They resent being made the enforcers of bad laws. I'm not in Hawaii nor am I a Hawaiian, but still ... Hawaii makes for an interesting case study. The law enforcement officers in Honolulu are very focused on preventing and arresting for violent crime, and by contrast they generally attend to nominally criminalised prostitution (involving consenting adults) with a lack of enthusiasm that I consider to be quite refreshing. Even the formal legal commentary that's on the official Hawaiian law document states (better-worded than I can paraphrase here from memory) that criminalising prostitution makes little sense but when a loud enough portion of the populace pushes for it, such a law ends up being passed and so here it is but don't expect much good to come from it. I hasten to add that whoever chooses to spend his money on a service provider is also within his rights, so I take issue with the Scandinavian model. With all of that clearly in mind, there's one aspect that seems so peculiar that I'm surprised anyone can entertain the notion of criminalising voluntary-exchange prostitution as a serious idea. Let's agree that forced labour + abduction + holding someone against their will (slavery, essentially) is bad, and its eradication deserves of every iota of law enforcement resources we can muster. Were we to criminalise voluntary prostitution then this would divert resources from that just cause. For now let's ignore what the law enforcement officers would be doing as part of enforcing laws that criminalise prostution transactions between consenting adults. Let's say they just lit candles and held hands and sang Kumbaya. Even so it'd be a step backwards because such time and energy could and should have been allocated to going after the people who are, in precise terms, enslaving others. (The 90%+10% in my chart might be 80%+20% or 20%+80% instead, but you get the idea). Somehow voluntary sex work gets painted with the same tar brush as sexual slavery, as if the former were essentially the same as the latter. On such premises, agriculture should have been criminalized across the board at the time, because in the American South there were slaves involved in agriculture. The more I think about this proposed law, the less sense it makes. One more thing: One trick that faux-feminists will sometimes pull (and I resent their attempted usurpation of the title "feminist" since I am a true feminist) is a sexist twist on the notion "a hungry man is not free". To the extent that we agree with that premise, it's a slippery-slope argument towards our opponents' point of view. Of course, that critique, even if it held water (which it doesn't) would apply to many fields of endeavour, including the US miltary which, some claim, penalizes poor and/or black people by giving them an option that private industry would not. The "people are victimized even if they're politically free" premise makes a contradictory and jumbled conceptual mess, both north and south of the Canada-US border. .Tanya

The film Taken was supposed to be based on a true story. Except the story wasn't true. http://www.tbd.com/articles/2011/01/bill-hillar-inspiration-for-film-taken-arrested-by-fbi-47382.html

I have offered this advice privately to a few newbies and have been recently asked by an SP to offer the suggestions to the community at-large. Apparently, some of you need a refresher course... :roll: (I also expect that you are like me -- if you are considering meeting an escort who has no presence on CERB then you have done your proper homework to see if she's genuine or a scammer, and decided to go ahead.) Step 1. Be clear in what you are looking for (services, time). Be careful never to solicit. Example A applies if she has not stated her rates on her Backpage ad: Hi, I like DFK, BBBJ, and DATY. If you are free for a HH incall at 2 p.m., please tell me your HH rate. Example B when her rates are already quoted: Hi, I like DFK, BBBJ, and DATY. Can I book you for a HH incall at 2 p.m.? At this point, she will reply saying she doesn't do a service, she is only free at a time later on, or might not respond at all. Let's say she replies like this: Hi hunnie. CBJ only. I start at 3.30. HH 140, H is 200. Step 2. Make the booking and always prompt her to acknowledge by asking the question. Example: I'm OK with CBJ. 140 for HH is OK too. Please book me for 3:30 p.m. for HH. OK? Let's say she responds like this: OK hunnie. C u then. (At this point you have technically booked her in just 2 text messages! Good for you!) Step 3. Now, if you are within 1 hour of your booking, it is acceptable to ask for her location like this: Thanks for accepting my booking. What is your hotel or address? However, a lot of escorts do not like giving out their location if you have booked a few hours or a day in advance. Let her know that you will follow-up, like this: Thanks again, we are confirmed 3:30p.m. for HH. I will text you 1 hour before to ask for your location. Bye for now. (Later on you will text her like this: Hi, we have a booking for 3:30 p.m. Please tell me your hotel or address.) Once you arrive at her location, expect to text her again for her room number (if she's at a hotel), or for her buzzer number and suite number (if she's at an apartment). These same general rules work well if you choose to arrange your date over the phone. Escorts don't want to make conversation with you or answer a lot of questions. Be direct. Get booked. Get laid. Simple. Cheers!

I keep a client list too! Lee Richards: nickname "yah Baby", still needs to be shagged. RG: nickname "Virtual Hubby #1", honeymoon consumed. Repeat, yes! Magician: nickname "Hunny Bunny" and "Virtual Hubby #2", honeymoon consumed and a second one on the way! ETC... ;) Edit: I should add that my comment above was made tongue in cheek!

I keep a client list. It includes the bare minimum of info--phone number, first name and how the session went. It's not on my phone. I also keep accounting records, which include the date, a first name, the duration of the appointment and the donation given. I'd never release any of this info. I also like to think that most clients are able to distinguish individuals (eg. Terri Jean Bedford) from the community as a whole. What I mean is, if TJB releases her list, this is her individual action, not one that everyone agrees with. It also doesn't mean that the rest of us are about to follow in her footsteps if she does.

Some are even worse, they hold kittens LOL Or pet a dog It doesn't mean anything, they're still dorks And cruel to animals RG

Just as sex workers are shamed by society, so are the clients who see them. It's time to tell my side of the story TONY CALVIN Tony Calvin is the pen name for an engineer living in Silicon Valley. http://www.salon.com/2014/10/20/why_i_visit_prostitutes/

After doing some shopping around, I've chosen this one (CERB.CA) due to the high standard of social decorum and (key point) how that translates into better clients as to discretionary income and etiquette.

I have seen Jayne but since there is a reco on her then I will comment on dealing with the agency. I had no trouble pre-booking by text message to see Jayne and confirm rates (since she had a reco I did not have to clarify services). I kept in touch and re-confirmed the appointment on the day of. I was advised of her location (and a change in location) well in advance, and was provided both the hotel name and address. When I arrived, I was given the room number and our appointment started on time. By my standards, the agency did exactly what I expected of them, which is a good sign. If it matters, Jayne says she prefers being affiliated with this operation than the previous agency she was with. My only criticism is they do not appear to have a website which would be helpful with clarifying services/restrictions, stats, and rates upfront so that I can easily decide who else I might be interested in. Posted via Mobile Device

To the OP: I think you got your point across succinctly. However, to add to it - it's to stress that if/when the lady accepts your booking request, that you follow her protocol to securing/confirming the appointment. For example, in my case, I do not finalize any bookings by text or email. The client MUST call me from an unblocked number I can call back if necessary. Part of my screening to hear the person's voice and chit chat a bit as intuition plays a big part in whether I want to see them. I give them a general idea of where I am located. Then I will ask that they confirm at least a half hour before the scheduled time so I know they are on their way. Then I will direct them to a designated place to park. When they get there, they need to call for the street address. I will be moving away from answering explicit requests by text or email as I do not want any text message or email trails out there. I have no problem discussing things by phone because it's doubtful LE is going to wiretap my phone. I think people need to relax a bit and wait and see how things are going to pan out with the new bill. In-calls were technically illegal and even agencies were offering them and the police have basically overlooked that for years unless there were problems. So why all of a sudden would they be listening in to two people's private conversations. I am not concerned that much will change. I am quite adept to change and have no problem adapting to whatever I need to do to keep myself and my clients safe.

Sending out hugs and supportive energy to everyone who is having thoughts or feelings about those no longer with us. This is a time to give thanks for what we have or people who have touched us and this can sometimes be bittersweet. Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Suess Love never dies, it just transforms.

All I meant was that I didn't think there was any connection between my tipping and them being booked up. Ie not wanting to see me. They just seem much busier.

There is a Coco working at Phoenix now ...slim young asian who wears glasses. Wonder if this is the Coco that has been at the Ness spa? Whether HE happens may depend on how busy the ladies are as at times it is very quiet and the women want sufficient income. At times they are very busy and don't have much downtime between sessions. It doesn't help when the male helper (his daughter owns the place) keeps reminding the ladies that the time is almost up and she has another client waiting... all spoken in their language but obvious what he is bothering the lady about. The ladies seem to ignore him though, but annoying to see and he does not understand English in order for us get the message across to him. The lady you choose handles collecting the fee in the room - different from Magic Spa on St Anne's Rd where you pay at the front desk after the session. Tips should be handled privately with the lady though. All the ladies at Phoenix are nice and want to please the client but apparently ymmv ...even from session to session with the same lady. Establishing a connection with a lady is important ... you cannot expect it to be like Broadways or Nevadas where you get the same service whether you visit only once or repeat. You could end up spending as much at these massage places hoping for a HE as you would spend at Nevadas where that service you seek is a given and the ladies there are happy to oblige for affordable rates but we are all looking for that hidden gem.