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I had the opportunity last night to have an in-depth discussion about C-36 with an Ottawa policeman. All this was off the record, he was speaking only for himself and his situation may change but none the less it was interesting. Based on what he's been told, he does not see any major changes on the horizon. They will continue the occasional street level John Sweep. The guys will get charged. The SPs most likely won't. As for SPs working from their home, condo, apartments or agencies, they have no interest in pursuing them. The probable results are not worth the investment in time and resources. Besides, he said, those people are paying their taxes just like any other person so barring any complaints, why would they bother them? He said this was the same for agencies, independents and "rub & tugs". He explained that they, the police, are generally in a reactive mode. There is only so much money, manpower, and resource available so they will react to community issues (complaints). The closest thing to proactive effort he mentioned was a Sergeant who was reaching out to women working from ....... to make sure the SPs were aware of the resources available to them in case they had problems. Apparently this Sergeant got into difficulty when he got a little too friendly with the SPs but that's a different story. He's not aware of any new money being allocated to address this "issue". Bottom line: Don't go looking for sex on street corners. Be discrete. Life will go on.

I am not a shawarma. lol I know you have good intentions but I think there are ways to describe a rendezvous that sounds more eloquent than comparing one's self to food. I really think there will be a change with the new law and steering away from being viewed as an in/out drive thru express menu. Providers are really going to have to brainstorm and being able to describe themselves that does not refer to anything explicit. They are really going to have to sell themselves and not in the way that one would think. This means describing qualities about themselves that does not necessarily infer anything sexual. There are ways around it and I'm thankful that I have a good way with words. lol.

Gentlemen, next time you go to a restaurant (or see an SP), I suggest the following: -Chef's Mystery Creations-5 course meal or Chef's Mystery Creations-8 course tasting menu with flavored sherbet in between courses to cleanse your palate. To this day, this has always been my favorite selection, in or out of a restaurant! :) Cheers to exploration, adventure and discovery!

Take a perusal of CERB, menus are gone in the recommendation section. Both in the template section and also in the content of a recommendation. That includes past pre C36 recommendations Getting rid of one menu isn't an invitation to create a new menu. C36 sucks, no question. But lets adapt so we can continue to partake in this non exploitive mutually beneficial lifestyle. A rambling RG

:66189-iconsex-teaba:chug: :tongue: I am not a buffet. Someguy, I'm sure your intentions were honourable with starting this thread, but we are trying to move away from menu style advertising. What you are proposing would turn us into a smorgasbord. But nice try. As Sassie said "cute".

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Personally, I am avoiding any sort of "menu". As it says on my site: I am a whole woman who can't so easily be quantified and to boil our experience down to a 1 -10 rating and a handful of letters is really doing our time together a great disservice.

A lot of us have been saying pretty much this since C-36 was looming months ago. Even when certain things were illegal, LE didn't go around busting everyone they could find. C-36 won't change that. The biggest difficulties will be in us ladies advertising effectively and having our online communities like Cerb. Independent ladies and agencies likely will get zero troubles from LE. We've beaten this discussion to death over many threads, and frankly I'm not the slightest bit surprised that an officer told you this. This law sounds scary, but it's up to LE to enforce it, and they've never been too concerned about busting up the sex trade. It's pretty low on the list when you've got rapists, murderers, thieves and all manner of other criminals out there.

I am actually somewhat happy that the "menu" is something we are going away from. I know that some guys are really particular about what they want and don't want and need more info but for me, it's just not that important. I think guys may have to see a lady for a 30 minute "coffee date" or whatever (not in public) and find out if the fit is right. Perhaps seeing what she offers or restrictions in person but my suggestion is to just go with the flow and not be worrying about those little details. There is a lot more to a great sexual encounter than the acronyms or the little details. We all need to quit treating this as if we are driving up to a hooker stroll picking up a streetwalker for a .. in the parking lot. These ladies invest heavily in putting a classy ad and/or website out there for us and we need to appreciate that and give them the courtesy and respect that goes with that. I'm not being a "white knight" here either. Just simply saying that we need to stifle the little brain and start working more on our ability to read and our deductive reasoning skills. I think most of us are pretty good at it when we apply ourselves. As for the food comparisons, it could be fun just in chatting and fooling around (while we are behind closed doors) but beyond that, not so much.

I couldn't agree more with your comments Boomer. Using metaphors, I would say that I can still find top quality shoes at great prices in an outlet store, and going to the best restaurant in town won't guarantee me the best meal I could ever enjoy, not mentioning the cold atmosphere. Sometimes pub food prepared with love is just what I crave for, in a very warm atmosphere on top. Experience, common sense and communication. Enough said...

INTOXICATING IRINA Hey gents, I just wanted to say thank you for the great response I received when I announced my short return! Many of you were asking if I could find future availability, and I'm pleased to reveal- I have! I will now be available on weekends (Saturday and Sunday) during daytime/evening hours. I will still be based downtown, and accepting incall appointments at a high rise condo just minutes away from UofO. As always, you can expect my sessions to be full of sensual fun and genuine intimacy. I want to make you feel relaxed and comfortable, while still exciting your senses with my soft touch. AVAILABLE TODAY! I am available today from 12pm-10pm. I will also be free all day next Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday. CONTACT INFORMATION I can be reached by PM or by TEXT at 613 700 3831 I hope we get to meet soon! XOXO Irina

re: bawdy houses, the govt reassures everyone http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/11/06/bill-c-36-prostitution-law-unconstitutional_n_6116498.html that given the SCC ruling, in December bawdyhouses (aka brothels) will actually legal. re: smilf's comment, further to that, look for ads on other sites. there won't be any, the LE sting ads (if they even bother, and that's unlikely), will only be on bp, and will only have today's date, possibly yesterday's and bumped up to the current time/date. Young age, low rates, perfect pics, 'low' restrictions, 24/7, no emails, it will all be text and talk, it will always be OK to come over now, all the signs. Hotel/motel as well. all the things every client should consider a red flag now, but usually only look at and say, hey, she's new, i'm gonna go see her. Smart clients look for ads that have a history, an sp who posts an ad today, don't see her today, wait a couple of weeks, watch her ad, and then make contact ONLY if that sp is consistently advertising over a period of time.

Strange the resemblance PM and SH have to the Emperor and Darth Vader...and both backed up by their Imperial Storm Troopers. RG

My terrible admission: I have a very strong sexual desire for Rick Mercer and Rowan Atkinson. Phew, I feel much better now! What's YOUR secret, abnormal crush?? Happy Sunday :) xoxoxoo Cara

Sorry, I did not mean to compare women with food lol I was trying to show how you could pretend to be a private caterer and use the same terms in the restaurant business to convey the same meanings as some escorting terms. Just for fun :)

Once experienced, jello says it all. Who needs a menu?

Amy Sedaris because she's weird, so smart and so funny. Chelsea Handler cause she doesn't give a fuck and has way nicer tits than Putin Sarah Silverman..... love the stoner gals Peace MG

I guess not many of you are aware of C-13, which Harper snuck through the day after the Ottawa shootings. Now, I am by no means saying that the government and LE have the time to waste using C-13 in conjunction with C-36 to bust the average John. That's a highly improbable scenario. But our online privacy is certainly not what it used to be. My advice is to delete any and all e-mails and text messages of your correspondence with ladies after you have met. Just a precaution - and also a good idea if you have a wife!

Oh yes Brothers, I too have been liberated by our new leader Pete, a fellow Maritimer (and I hasten to add not from NB but another Maritime province) who is leading us away from the wickedness of pervertedness. For six years now I have been visiting with CERB ladies not realizing that my perverted ways were harming them so much that they need protection from me. Oh yes, how happy I am to return to the natural world under the glories of C-36, away form pervertedness. When I visit with Cerb ladies in the future i will spend my time telling them of how I have seen the light thanks to Pete. So glad to be in the natural world..lets see what is the news of the day?....Oh, a Canadian celebrety slugs women, and .. sexual harassment on Parliament hill... Hey Pete, want to run that by me once again why I am the pervert!

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I always give a client a hug and kiss on the cheek or lips as soon as they enter in the door. A female police officer would NEVER do that. If you arrive and feel something isn't right even if it isn't LE, just excuse yourself and leave before proceeding any further. My advice is if you cannot find legitimate info on a new SP and you have a feeling of uneasiness like something is about to happen but you can't quite put your finger on it, do not go through with the appt or get out of there! Stick with the reputable ladies and there is no problem.

I advertise in the newspaper from time to time and many clients do not have a clue what's going on or told me they've heard something about it yet have no extensive knowledge as to what's currently going on. I've told them that they should stick to ladies they know and if they do venture out, do not ask explicit questions on the phone and that they're paying for time and companionship. I suppose the Ottawa Sun will discontinue the escort ad section and there is another market gone. I have a lot of great long time regular clients from there who were the "old school" type and it's really too bad that I will not be meeting any more of them from that advertising medium. :(

I visited the resort recently and their new sign at the entrance said: I guess there's nothing to worry about anymore :) Before leaving, to show my gratitude, I went shopping and cooked a healthy gourmet meal for the boys! And for dessert... I won't say who but to my surprise, because of my awesome cooking skills and menu choices, one of them asked me to marry him! I'm seriously thinking about it too!! :)

With all due respect, might I suggest all public responses here be worded with the utmost discretion. The casual reader might see something and go to a club with "great expectations" much to the chagrin of those dancers who spend all night explaining no, they don't do this. PMs seem the best response for those who have the information this good gentleman seeks. My two bits...

I am a die hard BlackBerry user and I recently downloaded a new App that I think is great for this Hobby/Business. The App is called "Hide SMS" and while it is for BlackBerry 10 phones I am sure there are similar Apps for other popular phones. Bottom line the App redirects incoming text messages from identified contacts or phone numbers into a password protected area on your phone and not into your regular text message location. This allows clients to securely text back and forth with SP's with no indication of the text trail in their regular text listing. If your spouse checks your phone you are all clear. It also would allow SP'S to flag the number of regular clients so that the record of their conversations were secure in case the phone is ever lost of stolen. I have only been playing with the app since yesterday but it looks very promising.

Some of the new social messaging platforms are offering interesting options for communication in the new legal world... for example the latest version of BlackBerry Messenger offers the option of timed messages that the reader can only see for a predetermined amount of time... with the already good security of BBM this added feature would be an excellent way for a more explicit conversation with no real record of it existing... with BBM now available on all phone platforms I would love to see more ladies use it. Just my Opinion

Yes indeed! I am trying to help out my local patrons and ladies by, once meeting and spending time with ladies I have posted a "friend list" to let other know they are safe to book with. It is a shame to say the least that many new ladies will fall prey to less desirable clients. And Gent's who could be extorted or put into danger by scams or worse:(

Emailed a long time and highly regarded provider who I've known for many years and asked for her thoughts on Bill C-36. Got back a what's that message. I provided a bunch of links and suggested it would be good to become informed quickly. (I also suggested that they could be a bunch come out the wood work over the next 30 days as some scramble seeking a safe haven). It surprised me a bit but then after thinking about it, it really didn't as the numbers of uniformed players out there is huge and most probably the majority by a long shot. That's where the game is going to get most interesting when the uniformed on both sides walk smack into C-36. While all the boards have had extensive discussions about C-36 with many many opinions the reality they still represent a small percentage of overall industry participants. And the stick to reputable providers idea well obviously a good thought, for folks who aren't on the boards how would they even know who is a reputable provider is? Interesting times indeed. Peace MG

Things have changed but let's not let panic take over... take the necessary precautions and just book time with your favorite lady and all will be fine. Just my Opinion

Law enforcement is not on a moral crusade here like the Conservative government is. If they're told to enforce something they will do it because it's their job. It is also based on time, budget and resources. Many people think that once this bill is official law that LE will just be waiting to arrest people. This bill is so contradictory and evasive that I feel bad for police officers who are just doing their job. People need to use common sense here. Don't do anything that you are not sure of, see reputable providers, be discrete and there won't be a problem. The world is not going to end. Hobbyists are going to have to take more time researching a prospective SP they want to meet instead of calling up an ad on BP out of the blue and going to meet them within the hour. I hate to say it but clients have had it good for so long without interference from LE and many have become complacent due to non-industry classified ads which have brought in a lot of amateurs to the business who think they have a cell phone and hotel room that they are now a professional escort, a lot more bait and switch, explicit advertising, menus, quick in and out service, etc. It is all going to change and imo, there may be more positive change as a result.

Pivot legal has some great information on this bill/law. I understand your fear but this stuff is painfully easy to navigate. There will be a learning curve, not only for clients, but providers as well but let's be honest - we are a pretty smart bunch of people here. You will see advertising change drastically, it has to. You should be careful who you see (known, trusted, reviewed providers) but you should be doing that anyway. If you're onr of those people that send lewd texts, stop. I'm in ottawa and logging license plates seems silly to me. Most downtown hotels double as government parking so the same plates are there all the time. I don't think that LE is going to have the resources to go insane on this I expect a couple of big busts (or attempts..we've seen their success rate) and that's it. This will cause problems to spas, agencies and street level works. I feel awful for them but I am not involved in those categories so I cannot speak for their strategies. I'm sure they have them though

Attention: Masturbation is now illegal. If you must make physical contact with the opposite sex please do so in the form of a handshake. *Note: All handshakes must be pre-approved by Overlord Harper. :)

Goombata I'm sure you may have seen a girl that resembles the girl in the pics, but I'm sure the pics are not hers. The second pic in particular, when doing a search I found that it is a picture of Nadia Esra. If you google her name you will see that the pic is of Nadia Esra. I suspect the first pic is also not really hers as it is everywhere on the internet and used by hairstyle sites and fashion sites (appears to be a stock photo).

If you ever encounter any sort of problems with anyone while working, anything ranging from sexual assault to theft, intimidation, abuse, harassment, threats, stalking or anything else, and want to talk directly to a female officer who will listen and help (if you want it), here is the name of an Ottawa officer who has been helpful to sex workers in the past: Sergeant Patricia Ferguson Sexual Assault Section Tel. 613-236-1222, ext. 5463 Or, to anonymously report to the police any kind of bad behaviour you've experienced: Bad Date Line Call 1-800-303-5407 - anonymously. http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/ServingOttawa/SectionsAndUnits/saca/baddateline.aspx From Ottawa Police Services: Working in the sex trade can make you a vulnerable target, and predators count on the fact that you may not report crimes against you. We need your help to identify and track serial and predatory offenders. The anonymous reporting system is for individuals victimized while engaging in the sex trade. By calling the toll free number (1-800-303-5407), you will be prompted to leave a message regarding the details of your assault along with as much of an offender description as possible. Information gathered could be the missing link needed in identifying a serial predator. The anonymous and free Bad Date Line gives you an opportunity to report sexual and physical assault without revealing your identity. For more information about the Ottawa Bad Date Line, download their pamphlet (PDF, 206k). The Ottawa Police Service understands the desire of victims to remain anonymous and supports the Bad Date Line in an effort to identify potential serial offenders preying upon victims who they believe will not report the attack to police. The Bad Date Line does not subscribe to caller ID and no attempts will be made to identify callers. It is preferred that victims contact police directly to report an assault so that a proper investigation can be conducted and ensure a predator is removed from the street. Ottawa Police treat all victims fairly and equitably. If you wish to speak with an officer regarding an assault or receive more information regarding the investigation process, you may contact the Sexual Assault Unit directly at 613-236-1222, ext. 5944.

Just had a wonderful time with Amy from BP. This beautiful young lady took my breath away when she opened the door. Amy made me feel right at ease even though there was a wide gap in ages. Beautiful tight and fit body and a cleavage that goes on for ever. She has a toung piercing that she really knows how to use. Comes off shy and nieve but sure changes when it comes to play time. I have never been taken over like that in my life! Well worth the visit and would I repete? HELL YES!

Just a quick account of my visit from last friday (Nov. 7): I was at the club from around 6 PM to 8 PM. Among the girls I saw and knew (or met), there was: shy blonde Kim, Delicious with her new manmades, muletto Elena, asian Lana, blonde Bambi, tall Cabria, petite burnette Sky, blonde Anastasia, Candy with her perfect natural boobs, french brunette Mina (I think it's her name), well endowed Adora, Jackie (always smiling), young Kate, petite Talia, Carina (a rare visit), and many more that I didn't know or don't remember. Even the ebony Sally (a.k.a. Foxy at Barefax) was there, but only as a non-stripping visitor. I had dances from Delicious and was not disappointed. She's very warm and her private dances are very satisfying. On a different note, I just remembered 16 strippers names from the top of my head... I definitely spend way too much time in strip clubs!

Forgot one......my man crush used to be Neil Patrick Harris.......but now it's John Oliver. Fuck you John Oliver.......fuck you......you temptress. Peace MG

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Victoria also issued a similar open letter about two months ago. The Mayor, most of the Council, and many other community leaders - including the Chief of Police - basically said they don't support C-36. BC has always been a sex-trade friendly place. While community leaders in other municipalities may not be speaking so loudly against C-36, we can be assured that the general census is that LE and city municipalities across Canada have better things to do with their resources than strictly enforce this pile of crap.

I have a thing for celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay even though he is an arrogant prick at times - actually most of the time! lol. The things I'd like to do to him!

Toronto- - Canoe -Very creative cuisine and a nice atmosphere - Harbor Sixty is a long time fav of mine for steak and seafood. - Barberian's steak house- extensive wine list. Amazing french onion soup and steak. It's like taking a walk back in time where atmosphere is concerned. Vancouver - Blue Water Cafe - Will never forget a celebrity asking me to fish her cell phone out of the toilet in the ladies room for $100. lol. Ottawa - - E18hteen - great steak and seafood. I also like the historic atmosphere there. Another nice place in Ottawa to dine is Social.

In this market (Wpg) and I'm not sure about others it can be tough at first. New girls attract attention and if there's positive buzz even more so. There has been a history of jealousy when a new girl arrives on the scene and is popular right off the bat. We know there have been at least a couple quality providers who were forced out of our market or retired because constant harassment, cancellations, no shows and even being outed to family, friends and landlords. As much fun as it is to be the popular new girl, lots of stuff can come with it. It can get heady so don't over reach and as weird as it sounds don't draw too much attention to your self. My experience has shown this can be a lonely, isolating game and achieving/maintaining a life balance is critical. Good Luck! Peace MG

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They are very attractive photos. I am confused however about 6 year old photos for someone advertising as being 19 years old... ;)

I have also decided to turn in my abusive pimp, stop prostituting myself for my next fix, go to rehab, and join the dinosaur era by becoming a delusional extreme feminist anti myself! I will even stop having sex and promise not to masturbate anymore! Wow, I can't wait to become a real woman, a respectable one at that, with great values and morals, and not a helpless victim anymore! There might be a future for me, after-all! Thinking of it, I might even start going to church every Sunday!!! CPC, thank you so much for changing my life for the better! I don't know what I would've done without you! Truly a life saver! .........- In case anyone reads this and thinks I'm being serious, this post is 100% sarcastic and not real lol

I want to join this cult, sounds amazing....wait....can we still masturbate?

This is a tough industry... no health care... income 100% dependent on how a lady feels and her ability to work... so yea cold season sucks

I love pussy...licking pussy, AND I will take a great face fucking anytime.....yeah to DATY..I will continue doing what I'm doing I know the ladies I've been with thoroughly enjoy it so I know I'm doing something right :).......The end. ;)

Mayonaise Which do you prefer, in call or out call RG