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IF YOU CAN NOT GET THIS MESSAGE TO GO AWAY AFTER READING PLEASE READ THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST. ****************************************** PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE CENSORED WORDS! ****************************************** I am sure by now many of you have noticed a number of words have been added to the censor list. I know it makes the site very hard to read but instead of jumping ship and moving to another country like other adult boards are doing we have decided to instead conform to the new laws. This means 1) No one can ADVERTISE that they offer prostitution related EXTRAS if you offer this off the site that is find as long as you do not LINK to a site offering such things or offer them here. To conform to the new laws we can not to allow you to ADVERTISE such things here on cerb or advertise a website or blog or ad somewhere else that offers such things. If we find you are linking to a website from cerb that offers such things we will need to BAN your site from linking from cerb. Since people will ignore the law and try to post ads offering such things on cerb we had had to add certain keywords to the censor to ensure no one posts ILLEGAL things. Unfortunately this takes away from the discussion area. Now it is NOT illegal to discuss prostitution or related ACTS but I am not sure how the law will see it if someone is posting that they are a ESCORT (Not offering any PROSTITUTION related extras) and some guy posts saying "Oh, She did such and such with me!" (Guys like to brag when they get something extra that was not advertised....) 2) People may start to try to CIRCUMVENT these words. This will get you SUSPENDED or BANNED as you could put the website in jeopardy. Anyone seeing anyone trying to be creative (offering to do stuff like "squeeze the juice from a hot dog", "Suc the icing off a rooster" or "go in and out of grease for extended vacation" .... you get the point! Please REPORT THIS and DO NOT QUOTE IT! If you reply to it with a quote and do not report it you may also get a warning. 3) Some words are standard words such as O U T C A L L and S E R V I C E and these had to be censored as well as they could be taken the WRONG way and we are being EXTRA VIGILANT at this time to ensure cerb stays within the boundaries of this new law. 4) Use your .... people, don't brag about extra things that may or may not have happened when in private with someone. Just share that you have a nice time, you will see her again and focus on the nice things. More to come but I am asking for help with CENSOR words as well. Please report any ADVERTISEMENT posts that HINT or BLATANTLY SAY they offer PROSTITUTION RELATED EXTRAS so we can ADD to the CENSORS and protect the site. IF YOU CAN NOT MAKE THIS MESSAGE GO AWAY.... Your browser settings are probably not accepting cookies. Switch to another web browser or change your settings and see if it helps. A INCOGNITO browser will probably also cause this issue as well.

It is not fear mongering and it is not us (cerb, the owners, the mods) who made these laws!!! Cerb has always been on the good side of the law and we will remain that way. It keeps our members safe, the owners safe, the mods safe and the advertisers safe. I am just warning people of what is to come here on cerb not everywhere else! Have i ever been concerned what others are doing? No! We run cerb different the other sites, We will conform to the new laws to keep this site running and we will ride this out and protect ourselves, and our members. lots of people are voicing opinions that we should keep cerb running the same, refuse to conform, move the business to another country, etc,etc,.. If you feel so strongly about not censoring and breaking the laws then i suggest you either purchase a copy of vbulletin (the software that runs cerb) and start your own discussion site and run all the illegal ads and open uncensored posts you want.. Or hell make the owners of cerb an offer to purchase cerb, maybe they would sell it. I would have to resign however as i do not wish to go to court for breaking this new law. Just for the record...As far as i know cerb it is not for sale but with the new laws i am sure that would consider an offer, i sure would. So, with that said does anyone have the guts (or stupidity) to go against the law? Put your money and your criminal record where your mouth is and lets see what happens. If not then help us stay a float and stop fighting me and fight your government who did this to us! Lets see if your all talk or your willing to take the chance and get charged under the new law. I personally would like to keep the site going and conform to the laws.

Appreciation has been expressed to Mod (and owners) for all the headaches they must be going through adjusting CERB to be compatible with this new draconian legislation But to the ladies we adore, they too are having to make similar changes to their websites. Changes which are time consuming and except for this draconian law, absolutely needless. I think all the ladies are also due a BIG THANK YOU for the time and trouble they are also going through, changing their websites etc. So to all the ladies, your efforts do not go unnoticed and are appreciated Thank You A rambling RG

Good morning my Friends, Enemies, Countrymen I entered this land of Cerb in 2010, longer than some, but not as long as others. Through this time I have made some great Friends, wonderful relationships and fun / sassy encounters that I have fully enjoyed. If you are reading this, I am assuming you have previously read the ones on getting cancer (the fu....oops sorry mod, the bastard) and the ups and down, trials and tribulations (sounds like my sex life!!) over the past couple of years. Well the end is nigh. The objective is to be around for Super Bowl, to know what that is and not think it is a luxury, Japanese toilet. Although the surgery to the shoulder removed a good chunk of cancer cells from the bone and muscle, it ended up travelling to the cortex and continues to grab onto chunks of the brain (what little brain there is!). The chemo treatments, especially the experimental ones helped to delay, sometimes shrink the bastard but it still crept along. Memory has become a huge issue with holes as big as Ottawa's sink holes in the expressway, the gps has become my day to day companion when driving, starting to need one when walking! Thinking of wearing a sign around my neck along with my mittens with strings, that points to my house, or a bar that serves great single malt scotch. You know you are on the way out when the docs are arranging your next treatment when they say, "we will fit you in when convenient", not sure who it is convenient for...... Squirrel!!! sorry I wandered off for a bit Anyway, back to the Ladies of Cerb. Whether a MA or .., as previously stated, I have been lucky enough to enjoy a friendship and a kinship with and I am ever grateful. I love the banter, silliness, the heart to heart discussions some of us have had. The hugs, kisses and spanks (obviously mod, the spanks were for my birthday!) were always a treat. I have started to say good bye to a few of you that have been very special to me. Some in person, some by email or pm. I am sure I will miss some with this .... full of swiss cheese. But to all of you, thank you for being who you are! Stay true and safe. To my male colleagues, thank you for all the support. It is greatly appreciated. Over the next couple of weeks, I will get out when / while I can to grab a quick coffee with some of you to give you a hug! If you are aware of and still keep in contact with Ladies who have either retired or are no longer using Cerb (gasp) and you know that they were intimate with me, please let them know, I would appreciate that. I will endeavour to go A - Z to update recommendations as long as I can. I had a discussion with my brother, and he will let you know through a post probably signed on as theliquor (he will have access to my computer and password for Cerb) that I have "moved on, up or down!". He will sign off as "the liquor's brother" When that happens, I have arranged to be buried in those lovely golf pants, matching pink shirt and my pink and white golf shoes, a bottle of Glenmorange 25 and my 1 iron. Have already paid for the wake, admission will be a shot of single malt and the shot glass each one drinks from to be put in the casket with me. What the hell, might as well make the "6" work extra hard with the extra weight! Once you find out, please grab a bottle of single malt scotch, raise a glass to when we meet again on the other side. Kindly, your friend TheLiquor Tom

The censor system lets me tweak some stuff but the problem is the more strict I make it the easier it is to circumvent. I adjusted l i c k and p s e so you can type collapse and upset and click but this means someone can do stuff like GFEPSELICK and circumvent the censor so if you see something like this please report it.

Spent the last few days reconnecting with a few friends from CERB... on here, Twitter, FB, phone and text. There aren't enough superlatives to express my gratitude... love my peeps!

Tom... Goodbyes are sad.... but... being able to say goodbye is the only downfall of having said hello in the first place. Your "hello" to many of us happened here, or in socials, or in a far more intimate setting with those you have come to appreciate. I would rather not have to say goodbye my friend... but I will never regret saying hello. Peace to you my friend. Paul

I have no idea where this site is hosted but I agree in principle to your suggestion that access to the data on the site would be more difficult for Law Enforcement if the site was hosted on servers outside of Canada. That said however I would have to add that I consider my "safety" on this site or any site to be totally within my own control if I take care to respect the laws and not communicate about the purchase of sex then I should not be at any risk. This does not mean I cannot continue to speak openly on this site or others about all the legal and fun times I have had with ladies who are in the business of selling companionship time to clients. I am surprised to continue to hear about the idea of people selling sex...I was under the impression that our government had recently passed a law that made that practice illegal so of course it must have stopped... you know like the way Putin in Russia and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran eliminated homosexuality by making it illegal. Yep... I am so proud of our leader Stephen Harper for aligning himself with such stalwart defenders of human rights... makes me proud to be a Canadian. Now if you will excuse me for a minute i need to go vomit in disgust. Just my Opinion

Short version: you can't advertize the exchange of any kind of sex for money. Advertizing will therefore have to focus on what a fantastic person you are, rather than the specific things you'll do with people. There are other rules too, but those have been around for a long time, are in the FAQ, and haven't changed.

You know... we will all adapt and by this time next year no one will even notice any .... dots cause we will iron out the laws and everyone will change to accommodate the laws. Unfortunlay the system does not have the ability to censor NEW posts and not OLD ones so right now all the old posts have been automatically censored. It sucks and yes I am being over-aggressive right now in the words and abbreviations just cause I want cerb to comply with the laws so we can keep the site alive without having to relocate the company it to another country..

I'll chime in with my two cents here...maybe not even worth that. I've noticed some complaints about how CERB is dealing with the new laws but nothing about CERBies against one another...but maybe I'm blind LOL First CERB (Mod & Owners) are trying to navigate the legal minefield brought about by MacKay's Draconian legislation...bolded because lets remember who the enemy is here. With that said, we, each other aren't the enemy...it's that cpc moral minority that is the enemy Two There is going to be a bit of a learning curve for everyone, better to learn than fight. Three the adjustments CERB just made is so this community can continue Four if there are some who are baiting others (not saying this is being done) something to remember. CERB metaphorically speaking isn't a lifeboat that can hold 10 survivors and there are 18 in the water, so 8 need to go...the lifeboats don't need to be deployed because the good ship CERB hasn't sunk...hope that metaphor makes sense Finally, again remember the cpc is the enemy, one I'm going to remember at election time. But this community shouldn't get divided amongst each other because of the cpc That is if I read this thread right Time for a bike ride, then a coffee RG

I'll like to find out what how you define Connection between two people and the Chemistry between two people? Or are they the same. I've had many great encounters and have in contact with many of the women that I have met. With some I have felt a personal bond and friendship for some reason? I think this is what I defined as Connection? And with other women, there is instant attraction and both physical and emotional. It just feels natural and comfortable to be with each other right away, with no shyness or first meeting jitters. It just feels right. After 4 years of now of being on here on Cerb and starting off slowly in meeting women. As I was a shy man. I guess confidence comes with more experience. Now I can meet new women and find that I can now easily chat and entertain women and they seem to enjoy meeting me also. I've managed to make many friendships and have gotten close with several of the women I have met. Is this connection or chemistry? What is your definition and are they different or the same. What were your first experience where you met someone new and had a instant connection or chemistry? I'm interested in hearing your opinions and stories?

Honestly, I have no idea. Anyone looking to advertize anything out-of-the-ordinary is going to find it tough to reach her target market with the new rules. Perhaps other advertizing venues will be happy to push the rules further, and places like Twitter probably don't care at all...

Thanks Mod! You are doing a helluva job in this really crappy time! Kudos!

I've been to 1360 a few times now. Keep thinking that i'll book with someone different but I just enjoy seeing Leanne so much that I haven't been able to ask for anyone else. She is such a sweetheart and every time is better so for now i'll stay with the tried and true ;-) In fact if I wasn't a few years older than her I would ask if she would go for a drink on her own time. If you are making the trip I highly recommend Leanne.

I do agree, let's stay in the boundaries of the law and t keep this site alive. It is the best place to find safe heaven for the industry

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/national/Maher+Jason+Kenney+could+prime+minister+before+next+election/10382419/story.html Doesn't matter to me, there is no good CPC PM RG

Ladies can not get charged for PLACING prostitution ads but third parties can so no one can allow ads for prostitution so the law effectively means your allowed to advertise but it is illegal for anyone who allows you to do it. If your link from cerb (Banner or signature or profile or anywhere on cerb) links to a personal website where you offer prostitution extras this would be illegal as well so UPDATE your sites!! if not your site will be banned from cerb. THE LAW PASSED - THIS IS YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO UPDATE!! it is in a 30 day grace period to give everyone time to conform to the new law. We are giving the ladies a few weeks to update websites but if they are NOT UPDATED shortly they will be placed on the BANNED SITES list and censored off the site. Members will be asked to let us know if any sites linking from cerb advertise prostitution extras those sites will actively be removed. Again... I did not make the new laws! People are getting mad at me cause of the censors and the new rules. Deal with it people! Next time a vote comes about don't vote conservative cause it's your majority conservative government who did this to you all!

Yay!, got my ticket reserved, can't wait to see all the familiar faces and new ones as well :-)..Partaaaayyyyy! :-)

The site is already outside of Canada But it is owned and operated in Canada Simple, do you think Mod and other CERB/EC employees should leave Canada and operate CERB outside of Canada so you aren't disappointed assuming they can get a work visa The simplest thing they could do is shut it all down. But at least Mod and everyone, they are trying to find a solution and keep CERB going RG

It'll take a bit of time for CERB to iron out the kinks because of Harper's/MacKay's brave new world. None of us like it but I guess it's better than this community shutting down I think a big thank you is due to the Mod for his hard work keeping this community going while dodging the minefield from this legislation Just remember all this bs when we go to the polls next federal election A rambling RG

I just read this, as I just posted my ad for massage & entertainment. Now in this ad, I said " Kneading and squeezing the stress you hold with in" Is this along the lines of a No-No? Do I need to edit this?

No, it is because the laws are changing this month ... You should read the threads on that. The site has to now censor anything related to prostitution, this is a transition period for us all. We are adapting.

I had the occasion to visit several wonderful ladies over the last few weeks while visiting Winnipeg. Life can be damn good sometimes. I openly admit my bias that I truly love the female body. :) I generally won't comment on looks as it's subjective, and most ladies have detailed pictures in their link. Angelina, Felina, and Zoe were researched through CERB and/or their websites. The others were through BP. In alphabetical order... Angelina Develin - http://www.angelinadevelin.com. Wow. What an amazing woman. Sexy as hell. A truly unique, relaxing, and ero tic experience. Totally un rushed, her bath experience is above and beyond ........ Professional level massage, and an unbelievable time afterwards. She's great to talk to, and top of the line skills. If you need to de-stress, Angelina is by far the place to go. I'd see her again, and again, and again if I could. Pictures on her website are accurate. She also has an ad on EC that has significantly more pictures. Three thumbs up. Chrissy - http://winnipeg.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smoking-0t-downtown-hotle-amazingskills-call-me-1-204-930-3723/2269894 Pictures are very accurate. Was good arriving on schedule. PM for any more details. Daisy - http://winnipeg.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/they-stole-my-picsthe-real-daisy-is-here-call-me-now-204-290-8318/1877511 I'm officially going to hell, she looks almost exactly like the daughter of one of my best friends. Very, very beautiful young lady who looks exactly like her pictures. Very elegant. Was late for appointment, but called to let me know so it's all good. Very, very limited men u. Very good at what she does, but I felt she treated the time as a job rather than a joy, if that makes sense. I did quite enjoy my time with her though. As an aside, she mentioned she was considering leaving the business. I asked if it was because of bill 36, she was unaware what that was. Haylay - http://winnipeg.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/haylay-22-years-old-new-gurl-204-952-1386/2270380 Pictures are accurate. Cute face. Reasonably on time. Very accommodating, in general. Oddly, no dog gy as it's the one position she didn't like. If you like her pictures, you'll probably enjoy yourself. Seems like a nice young lady. PM for an additional detail or two if you'd like. Felina (regular session) - http://www.sweetcaramelo.com My first real exposure (ha! see what I did there?) to provid ers, and she was wonderful. Patient, and tender. I describe it as this; imagine you've run in to a former girlfriend 10 years later, and the two of you hit it off again. Simply outstanding woman. She has a lot of excellent reviews, and I agree with them. Of all the ladies, best mouth talent (silly censors). On time, extremely accommodating, and a great lady. Would repeat weekly if I could. My opinion is that she is considerably more attractive than her pictures on the site. One note, for whatever reason, I had pictured her with a Mexican accent (think Salma Hayek) but she speaks flawless "Canadian". Felina (kink session) - I reviewed in another thread. Summation: Go. Go now. Krystal - http://winnipeg.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tail-a-romp-a-day-keeps-stress-very-far-away/2021249 Pictures are extremely accurate. If you like what you see, you'll have a great time. Of the girls I contacted on BP, she was by far the most enthusiastic, vocal, and accommodating (literally, probably more than the others combined). I totally get she was likely pretending, but she legitimately gave the impression she was hor ny for me. She seems like a good person, we had a good talk before and after. Not a clock watcher at all, arrived on time. If I had to sum her up in a word, "enthusiastic" would be it. Probably more than the other BP lady, I quite enjoyed my time with her. Full disclosure: my usual partner is shortish, stout, and full chested. Krystal is tall, thin, and very small chested. I quite enjoyed the contrast. Layla Moore - http://winnipeg.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-caramel-treat-xo/2139195 Didn't actually get to see her, but she told me up front when I called that she wasn't feeling up to meting with people that day. Full props for honesty and not stringing me along. Stacy - http://winnipeg.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/stacy-petit-french-girl/2274689 PM me for details. Zoe - http://www.escorts-canada.com/......../Winnipeg-MB/4585.html#provider4585 Zoe was very accommodating, willing to switch things up as we went along. On time, very enthusiastic. Photos are accurate. Extremely friendly, great to talk to before and after. A lot of fun, clearly wanting to provide the best time possible. So there you go... I leave Winnipeg a little bit poorer, but a lot of bit happier. My sincere thanks to all the above ladies. You won't soon be forgotten. Anyone can feel free to PM for more information as required, I'll likely continue to check the forums for a bit more time.

Some threads to read http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=198629 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=645317#post645317 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=645912#post645912 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=181850 There's a little light reading for you RG

To me connection and chemistry are two very different things, but come hand in hand.. Connection for me starts through a genuine conversation trying to feel each other out I do not know how it is for everyone, but I personally enjoy a proper introduction upon first communicating that way both parties can see if they are an equal fit for each other.. Chemistry naturally follows a genuine connection and most times for me in general it comes prior to meeting the first time.. A great conversation for connection I feel always leads to a equal feeling of chemistry!

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tears coming down my face as I read your will journey with us here on this earth will be coming to end . xoxo i am happy to have spent some time together I will miss your presence here on cerb greatly Raven

Ah chemistry and connection....... you might get it a bit through communications but the true test is upon meeting and even at first sight.......can't really explain it but I knew instantly and when it happens you know it. Only happened once for me that way, others it took a little time. The instant one is never forgotten. Peace MG

I decided not to follow my own advice, and booked a session with Crystal. It seemed obvious to me from the pic in her original ad that she is a BBW, and that is definitely the case - she is indeed quite large. She worked at EB in the past, but I don't know exactly when. She is renovating the place, so there was quite a lot of clutter. However, she was very pleasant, so I decided to stay. She led me upstairs to one of two rooms she has set up with massage tables. The massage itself was well done and ended happily. I was not short changed at all on time. She was very patient and accommodating. I agree with Hemsky that South Pointe is a superior facility, however Crystal's place is a work in progress and will likely improve over time. Whether it ever matches Shu's place, only time will tell. I suggested a couple of improvements to Crystal, and I believe she will implement them, since she seems serious about developing a regular clientele.

Anna, i think that if you had just been more direct, and not so roundabout hinting at this and that 'stuff', maybe the reactions would have been more acceptable for you? As it is, you jump onto one reply, one of the things you complain about others doing, i think? So basically what i am getting from the OP is that you feel that some members are reporting ..'s ads or sending mod info about their ads on other sites, in order to get them banned from using cerb. In a malicious way, of course, and you want these people to mind their own business. If that is what you are saying, i wholeheartedly agree. People are busybodies about other sps ads. i don't know where you are seeing these digs about sps advertising extras elsewhere tho. is it possible you are reading more into what you see? for example we are discussing the whole topic of advertising and what to include, what to exclude. to do this we use examples. From time to time, we may use an example of a site that allows more graphic ads, and wonder why, or maybe explain why they do. how do people know things if they don't discuss, and ask, and debate?

thanks to seinfeld, we have a great way of saying, without saying: "I saw Tracie, and we yadda-yadda-yadda'd like rabbits. She was terrific!"

So instead of standing up for the rights of our community, CERB has bent over, spread it's cheeks, and eagerly accepted everything the government rams into us. It would have been a much simpler thing to move to an off-shore server to avoid all this, but your push for "conformity" reminds me of the oppressed throughout history. "Disappointment" does not adequately describe my feelings about this.

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for the two pms, can I also ask for the recomendations? Thanks

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LMFAO, I love it and I agree, pancakes, maple syrup(the real stuff) and bacon are good anytime and almost anywhere.

Honestly... for me what matters is the MA, not the spa. OK, the spa might matter a little bit, but the most important consideration is who I'm going to be spending time with. Having said that, I've never had an issue with any of the establishments mentioned here. The one thing I would mention is the showers... if they're big enough for two (comfortably) and in the same room, that's a definite bonus. But I'd still go for a good MA with a bad shower over a bad MA with a good shower :)

You are certainly right you cant describe a feeling... I think what CMJ is trying to clarify is that Offering a GFE experience doesnt mean extra services in menu. If we choose to be massage attendants is because we want to play the sensual game of teasing. Is about cuddling sharing feelings and experiences is not about extras. Is not a term to cover DATY, fs and other services

In theory, MOD's definition is warm and fuzzy and what it should be... BUT - (sorry MOD, I doubt you have been an MA) reality is totally different. I have been asked many times as of lately what GFE really means - sadly, some have totally ruined and misrepresented this term - implied and guaranteed DFK, DATY, being fingered, FS and basically everything BUT a relaxing sensual massage. Call me prudish but there has been a change in what is expected in the massage rooms of Ottawa over the last few years. CMJ defines GFE as a "genuinely fabulous experience, girl friend experience" Just like, in REAL life, you don't connect with everyone and wouldn't want just any pretty girl or handsome guy to be your girlfriend/boyfriend. Also in real life, would you want your GF, GFE-ing it up with 5-10 different guys a day? DFK, DATY - lets not forget that now that SP's like to work in some MP's, and the fact that some MP's actively promote and encourage SP services (Blow Jobs and Full Service) in their "massage parlours", your risk for catching all kinds of STD's and STI's (both of the mouth/throat & genitalia area) have dramatically increased. Being selective and genuine is crucial not only for your health but for the longevity of the MASSAGE industry. The lines are being blurred and its very sad. I dont think that GFE guarantees DFK either.... I highly doubt you would play tonsil hockey with someone who has seriously bad gingivitis. Don't I feel sorry for the lady who feels that she can't give a great experience without having to DFK gingivitis boy. I am sorry but man this annoys me... and its a very dangerous road. Call me old fashioned but I am used to the days when GFE was a term that belonged to high end selective courtesans. As MOD said, it implies sensuality - well for me, sensual massage implies that imperatively. Things evolve and change, and I am not against that - however when you take an SP original term and try and apply it to a MA world - you get alot of confusion and blurred lines. Theory and reality are two different things. I hear my staff tell me everyday... and in my opinion, GFE "girlfriend experience" should have stayed an SP term .... hence why CMJ has had to re-define it to appropriately fit into the massage realm. Genuinely Fabulous Experience

Visiting an indy does not make it less expensive... if you compare rates for indys and the rates at the spa once youbhave paid all gratuities and door fee. They come out to be the exact same or very close.... Independent ladies also have to pay rent, buy oils, cleaning supplies. .. remember many of them dont operate from their home... so as in any other business There is an Overhead... And in terms of service is all about the lady and the individual... Every MA has their own style., and services to offer.. every MA is going to offer you their own "personalised" experience and has nothing to do with the place...

This is informative. I have something to add though. I have seen maybe 5 SP's. Only a couple of them directed me towards the washroom to prepare myself. To all the SP's out there I think insisting a quick scrub is a must. If the guys are not classy enough to obey then they do not belong in your company.

I think that falls under extreme sports.

41 Your lady has agreed to come to your home. You tell her when she gets there, that you have to go to the downstairs bedroom, because your wife is sleeping upstairs. You wonder why she left. I mean, you know your wife sleeps like a log and won't hear you. This is never ok. Please don't ever book a lady and neglect to let her know before hand that you are not alone. Same as your "friend" hiding in the closet. Never cool. 42 Your lady comes to see you. After rocking your world, she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. She sees there are no towels or soap there. There is a crusty dried up towel on the floor, but nope, not a single clean towel for her to use. You might not mind using that crappy towel on the floor, but I can assure you, she does not. Make sure there are clean towels for her to use. 43 So, you are having a great time with your lady. She puts a condom on you, and you are going at it and it feels so great. You decide it will feel even better if you unwrap your manhood and take the condom off and tell her "can I put it in for a sec?". She says no, gets another condom, you ask again. She again says no, and actually pushes you off her. Goes into the bathroom and comes out fully clothed. You are like "WTF", I paid you for the time. In case you didn't get it the first time, don't ever take a condom off if the lady put one on you. When you take it off so "you can put it in for a sec", you stepped over the boundaries. Why would she have put a condom on you if she wanted to do it without? This is probably the biggest issue providers face it seems. It happens all the time, and guys just don't get it. IMO, there is NO AMOUNT of money in the world that makes it worth taking the risk. If she says no, respect that. And sneaking the condom off while she doesn't know, is not consent, so therefore sexual assault.